ATV Florida Forum

Or just the USA?
Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas is a fairly famous institution and for a variety of reasons:
1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly thereafter
3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later...by coincidence   
'On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year. (That's almost 44 per day---every day)
A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants.  That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas 
According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.
The average patient in Parkland is maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant. By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay.   
OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at ParklandHospital , they do. ' Parkland Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.   
The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child---her previous two were also born at Parkland . Her first two deliveries were free and the Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in Mexico . This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even bother askin g at this point.) 
'How long has this been going on?  What are the long-term affects?   
Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child there as well. (That's right, she's technically a US citizen.) 
These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition, birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car seats, bottles, diapers and formula. 
Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost insurmountable. 
Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the hospital must take them at their word.
Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not so easy for Americans.)
There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is going to sue them!   Illegals get it all free!  But U. S citizens who live outside of Dallas County get sued!  How stupid is this?   
As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish.  In this AP story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband. The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was apparently a great injustice to her.   
In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed curriculum.  No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.
(Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation particularly to our 'employees' in Congress .)
Remember that this is only ONE hospital is Dallas , Texas . There are many more hospitals across our country that also have to deal with this.

SEND THIS TO EVERY U.S. CITIZEN YOU KNOW.
If you want to verify accuracy, click on the link below:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

I don't even know how to respond. that is just crazy.

We spend how much per month in Iraq?

we should send every one of them spics back. if they dont cooperate, give em a bullet. 

The way I see it is, Let them all come there, when they show up, give them the "FREE" ride back to ol` mexico, or be like Hittler dig a big hole out back of the joint and ever so often fill it with another layer of lime. That should do the trick ........

Amen

Sounds like an area the current president use to govern. :-[

Some pretty f-ed up comments on here.

what all you guys should do is take spanish lessons I will start with spanish 101 today start by these english words that mean something in spanish ( ten, go, free, hole, less, in, me, cool, low) lesson 2 soon

I have been to Mexico several times, and they do not speak ENGLISH for me, so I dont see it necessary for American citizens to learn spanish.

Everywhere you may travel to in Florida, all you see are peaple flying either the Mexican or Puerto Rican flags in their cars. Well if you feel its so great there, Then why the heck are you here?? Oh thats right the freebies from the U.S government.

 If the country your from is soooo great that you disrespect this country by flying another  flag, then go home

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We need to start thinking like Australia, and add illegal aliens:

Me gusta estar aqui para joderte la vida men-that means hi how are you?

Gato, I didnt realize you leaned that way.

and which way is that??

hey i don't think its fair that cubans can swim from Cuba, reach America, and become citezens and Mexicans don't have that right.  but entering this country illegally is bad for America but at least I see illegal Mexican immigrants trying to make a living and working hard instead of people trying to just get a welfare check and not even try. 

SPICS ??? I dont think that was very appropriate...

coma stas senior`, esta elbanio porfavor??

Muy bien y used como estas y el banio esta a la derecha

El Bano esta roto. Caga afuera...

I had to go !!!!!

Anyway, NO pun intended for those here legally!!!!
 I am NOT prejudice in anyway, I feel the same for the "white trash" as we call them ;)

Carajo Y el papel

that is like the guy last night in the new " I am not prejudice or nothing but I am not voting for any black guy" yeah right

No te limpies.

se fueron los gringos o que paso

estamos solos aqui...

HOLY CRAP!!!!  That story was unbelievable. So do you think next time I need medical care I can go in with my blonde hair and blue eyes and claim to be an illeagal immagrant from Germany or Sweeden. Nah that would make me no better than them. I dont have any nationality hang ups, youre more than welcome here.However I do have issues with citizenship. If you didnt come into this country through the proper channels then you really dont belong.Even if some attempt was made to gain citizenship that would be ok but from what I can see thats laughable just a big joke on us the American citizens.Well I can always fall back on my ten year plan. Wait ten years and there will be no one in Mexico, Thats where I will be.

pretty soon this country will have 2 classes of people upperclass and lowerclass no more middleclass like most of here, you can thank the good ole u.s. goverment for that and the scumbag beaners for bleeding the system. O YES we need reform thanks bush

lower class 4 sure

There's something else do you know that someone can come here from another counrty and work for 30 years then go back and recieve their check from the government to there county; as long as it is not a communist country. I find that sick. I was born here my parents came to this country and im from CUBAN decent. I cant stand it when some one comes here and starts to talk sh*t about this country. Damn it both my parents speak fluent english. Why cant anyone else... just my .02...

ORBIDALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

And you were "killing" me last night !?!?!

como estas amigos?  i can speak english and spanish yet know one in my family is spanish.

esta bueno esi se aprende

I don't know why but you guys typing in spanish is cracking me up  2:L  :L

What Urkes me is when People are talking Spanish b/c they know most of the people around them have no clue what they are saying. If your not here legally and you get caught it should be a one way ticket back to where ever you are from. They are taking God and our Countries Values out of here and why? B/c they come here illegally and we let them.

I live in a town that used to be all farmers,white and blacks, no Mexicans. Now we have Mexican stores on ever corner. Our first grocery store was a Mexican store. I don't agree with our school systems teaching Spanish to kids in Kindergarten. They are barely old enough to learn what words they need to know in English. It's ridiculous! 

I'm with the 10 yr plan b/c it's true. If your here legally and you want to better yourself, learn english, work your butts of like the rest of the TRUE Americans and live by our Countries Founding Fathers plans.

Whats even worse is our society is so screwed up that if you don't capitalize Spanish or Mexican it shows it's spelled wrong!

I'm not racists but I am an American

AMEN Brother  :Clap.gif

Why should THEY? ???  There are people HERE, born and raised, that don't live by our Countries Founding Fathers plans. :o :o :o

However, I do agree with your post! ;)

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what gets me about your post is you live in a town whites & black and your first grocery store was Mexican owned that just tells me 1 of 2 thing you are too slow to realize that if there was no grocery store around you you were not smart enough to open one or the Mexicans store killed your other store which means people in your town like the Mexican product my .02 and also your kids learning Spanish in kindergarden will be the best thing for them in the long run. my mother and father came here in 68 from a Communist Cuba and without learning English made a good enough living to were I have never questioned any of there methods and they still did good without the English just think if they would have learned it as with Spanish your kids will be more productive with it not just Spanish any other language. don't take any other of my post to heart I am a joker with all I know and some I don't but I will help anyone I can in time of need white, black, yellow, red and even some Mexicans lol J/K

guys there are AMERICAN born people here that spy for other countries and will do damage to anyone even AMERICANS like themselves I say always watch you cucu with all even AMERICANS

Amen Sister works better here ;)


First off I'm far from being stupid or slow. Second we are a small middle class town and the point of the story was that out of a past predominately black and white town that is now mostly Mexicans. I think it would be more beneficial for the Mexicans, Cubans, and any other non English speaking Individual to learn English. How many other countries speak English compared to other languages? If you travel almost every country knows some English.

And whether you want to believe it or not Cubans are a different class than Mexicans. And I've also learned not to take any posts on this website to heart, you'll always have someone pissed off over a little statement or take something the wrong way.


Oh and the town I live in only has 1 traffic light and that just got put in 3 months ago...It's a reallllly small town that is mostly farmers and ranchers not stupid people or people who like Mexican products, Our town is soo small we have a Mc'Ds, Hardees, a mom and pop restaurant and now a Mexican restaurant


And like I said a TRUE American...Not all Americans believe the same

The post looks like you are pissed sorry I am cuban by blood but I was born in US and second If you ask any Cuban just as a joke so you don't get caught of guard I didn't post anything about being stupid you did that on your own we (cubans) on a remark like that would tell you don't call yourself names it will stick no bad intentions meant by anything if you got mad I am sorry but like I say I am a joker and swear I do it for kicks I was born here but I am not gonna talk English just cause it is the native language sorry I will talk Spanish to Spanish speakers and English to gringos (smart remark )just for kicks again but if you are in a group of us (spic's so called) and something is said and you didn't know I would take the time to translate in other words I will not let you fell left out I am a joker but polite (sometimes) with this I finish and hope to meet some of you on the trails sometime so you will see I am a nice guy (at least that is what my Mommy says) really I am happy to speak both languages and will not apologize for my parents heritage I say something else you guys point in some is well taken in some ways. P.S. Congrats on the stop light I hope it comes in good use maybe your town will work its way up to 2 then 3 before you know it you may get 2 lane highways

I am by no mean mad. And I understand where your coming from, but not all Spanish speakers will be polite enough to translate. We have some rude Mexicans around here and I have alot of them that are friends but the rude,cocky ones I have learned are usually the illegals who don't care who or what they hurt. Thanks for the hope that we might work our way up in the world! lol no hard feelings

OK

All this is why we have to be careful on who we vote for the up coming presidency!

I see no Democrat candidate that wants to even slightly outlaw sanctuary cities, and only a handful of republicans.

Here is the immigration report card for our candidates!

http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez2008.html

No one should have to appologize for their heritage. Its understandable to be proud of your heritage, everyone should. I feel the problem is more of a respect issue. When I went to Costa Rica on a surfing trip, I respected the country I was a guest in. I tried my best to speak their language. I didnt throw my trash on the ground. I was polite whenever possible. I didnt get upset because the native people didnt understand me. I did my best to not be a problem for any one. I think if most of the illeagals tried to fit in and be low profile things might not be so tense on this issue, but for some reason some of these people think they are owed something. I just cant make much sense out of the way these people think. Ive tried to look at it from both sides, and believe that a little respect could go a long way.

Yep, sadly it might be a little to late for that.  The US doesn't get much respect from a lot of the illegal population.

But I agree with your thinking.

What it all boils down to is the US's lack of discipline. If they would crack down on teh illegals we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. If they would quit taking parents rights away and stop punishing the parents who are trying to discipline their kids and make them respectful we wouldn't have all the problems with our youth.

now there we can somewhat agree

I just got this email I was SHOCKED at what the figures were!


            What If 20 Million Illegal
            > Aliens Left America?
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            > Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a column
            > titled, 'Mexican visitor's lament' -- 10/25/07.
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            > She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting
            > Denver last week. Hernandez said,
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            > 'They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...what
            > happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?'
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            > That's a good question ? it deserves an answer. Over 80 percent of
            > Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what
            > would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers may
            > surprise you!
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            > In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it
            > would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems,
            > bankrupted hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways
            > cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another
            > as English became the dominate language again.
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            > In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
            > grand-kids ? would move back 'home,' mostly t o Mexico. That would save
            > Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 BIL) annually in
            > taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
            > costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
            >
            > Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror
            > that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer
            > Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death,
            > accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals. Denver Public Schools
            > would not suffer a 67 percent drop out/flunk out rate via thousands of
            > illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000
            > vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado. Denver's
            > four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would
            > gain jobs at a living wage.
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            > In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to
            > America, the rule of law and English.
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            > In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals,
            > schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free
            > experience.
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            > If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home' --
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            > If 20 million ille gal aliens returned 'home,' the U.S. economy would
            > return to the rule of law.  Employers would hire legal American citizens
            > at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because
            > they wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an
            > additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an
            > equal amount for local state and city coffers.
            >
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            > No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English.  No more confusion in
            > American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
            > degrade the educational system for American kids.  Our overcrowded
            > schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of
            > billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.
            >
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            > We wo uld lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more
            > than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who
            > distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country. In
            > cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish
            > from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from
            > Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!
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            > Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways
            > and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths
            > by illegal aliens!
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            > Drain on America's economy; taxpayers harmed, employers get rich
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            > Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to their home countries by cash
            > transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further
            > drains America's economy ? which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.
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            > At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing
            > us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California,
            > Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupted
            > out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.
            > Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in
            > our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.
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            > Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid
            > locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of
            > a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our
            > greenhouse gases.
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            > Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along
            > our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the
            > New York Times called, 'colonias' or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those
            > living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth,
            > diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without
            > sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of
            > sanitation. The New York Times reported them to be America's new 'Third
            > World' inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth
            > rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them
            > personally in Texas and Arizona ; it's sickening beyond anything you can
            > imagine.)  By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to
            > Mexico.
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            > High integrity, ethical invitation
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            > We invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or
            > make a better life in Mexico. We invite a million people into our country
            > legally more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot and
            > must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders
            > and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation.
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            > It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and
            > our way of life.
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            > Pass this one on to every one you know!
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            > About Tina Griego
            > Tina Griego is a native New Mexican and has been Denver resident since
            > 1998. She was a reporter for 13 years, mo st of that for the Los Angeles
            > Times and the Albuquerque Tribune. After two years as a project reporter
            > for the Rocky, she became a columnist for the Denver Post in 2000. She
            > decided to come back home to the Rocky in November 2002. She won the
            > National Headliner Award in 1998 for a project on the battle to legalize
            > casino gambling on New Mexico's American Indian reservations.
            >

No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English.  No more confusion in
            > American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that
            > degrade the educational system for American kids.  Our overcrowded
            > schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of
            > billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.
the push 1 for spanish or 2 for english has nothing to do with illegals sory but I see your point