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Title: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Smoknbanshee on January 18, 2005, 05:11:55 PM
Alright here are the options.  You vote, because we are here to please you.


Option # 1

Keep the rules the same, just allow the bikes to have swing arms extended up to 4” in modified class.

Option # 2

Kids Class with same rules, no dirtbikes.
200cc to 300cc stock modified class (any modifications, no alky, no nos)
400cc class (4 stroke any modifications, no alky, no nos)
450cc and up class (4 stroke any modifications, no alky, no nos)
2 stroke class (any modifications, no alky, no nos)
Open (run what ya brung)

Option # 3

Kids class ($15.00 per bike.1st – 4th trophies, 5th – 8th certificate, 9th – to finish certificate)
• 90 cc or less
• 13 yo or less
• no dirtbikes, dirtbikes can race each other during classes.

Stock 350 and less 2 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Stock 400 and less 4 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Stock 450 and less 4 stroke class. ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
Utility 4x4 class ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)

Stock Classes Restrictions –
• All atv’s must be stock appearing, front and rear fenders can be cut.
• Overbores no larger than .080 over stock.
• No port work or crankcase modification.
• No strokers, lightened cranks or long rod cranks.
• Stock cylinder head, any modification.
• Any reed cage, reed petals, or reed spacer allowed.
• Stock carbs & manifold, any modifications allowed.
• TORS system can be removed.
• Any type exhaust pipes allowed except drag pipes, CPI (in frame) okay.
• Stock air box, lid can be removed, sides & lid can be modified, any style air filter.
• Heavy duty clutch petals and springs only.  No billet hubs, straight cut gear.
• Ignition timing plates are allowed.
• Stock ignition system only, flywheel can be lightened.
• Any sprocket or tire combination.
• Any shock modification or shock allowed.
• No extended swingarms, bolt on extensions are allowed, 2” maximum.
• No wheelie bars allowed.
• No A arm restrictions.
• No air, electric, override or automatic shifter allowed.
• Gasoline only.
• All atv’s are subject to tear down for non compliance of rules.  $100.00 dollar protest rule.

Pro Stock Class (2 stroke and 4 stroke together) ($15.00 per bike, payback $10.00)
• All atv’s must be stock appearing, front and rear fenders can be cut.
• Overbores no larger than .080 over stock.
• No strokers, lightened cranks or long rod cranks.
• Portwork allowed.
• Aftermarket cylinder heads allowed.
• Any reed cage, reed petals, or reed spacer allowed.
• Any carbs & manifold, any modifications allowed.
• TORS system can be removed.
• Any type exhaust pipes allowed except drag pipes, CPI (in frame) okay.
• Any style air filter.
• Ignition timing plates are allowed.
• Stock ignition system, can have aftermarket CDI box.
• Flywheel can be lightened.
• Any sprocket or tire combination.
• Replacement axle carriers are allowed, nothing exotic.
• Replacement sprocket holder, disc brake holders, etc are allowed, nothing exotic.
• No aluminum axles or swing arms.
• Any shock modification or shock allowed.
• Wheelie bars allowed.
• Extended swing arms allowed not over 12 inches.
• No A arm restrictions.
• No air, electric, override or automatic transmissions allowed.
• No aftermarket frames.
• Heavy duty clutch plates and springs allowed, no lockups or straight cut gears.
• Gasoline only.
• All atv’s are subject to tear down for non compliance of rules.  $100.00 dollar protest rule.

Open Class ($35.00, payback $30.00)
• Must be an atv, run what ya brung.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: YAMAHONDAMAN on January 18, 2005, 05:22:50 PM
#1..... KEEP IT THE SAME AS IT WAS .....
I'LL RACE THEM RAG'S !!!    ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: badcompanyracing on January 18, 2005, 05:50:33 PM
I still say we need a(2 stroke) polaris class of some sort , we can't run with the outlaw or prostock banshee's. but what ever is decided we will be there to race. 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Chuck_Norris on January 18, 2005, 05:55:00 PM
kids class is a +


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: BANSHEE-BOY TONY FARROW on January 18, 2005, 08:41:19 PM
CHILLINS IDEAS SOUND GOOD TO ME ;)


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on January 19, 2005, 03:18:31 AM
smoke,


   In option #2 is the ONLY difference between
the 2 stroke class and open in NOS and ALKY?
everything else goes?


  chris


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Smoknbanshee on January 19, 2005, 04:07:25 AM
basically.....the only thing we might put in there is that you have to have the stock cylinder....


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on January 19, 2005, 04:39:34 AM
gotcha!


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Chillinthemost on January 19, 2005, 06:16:21 AM
Everybody keep in mind that under the Ga. rules "stock" is not really stock. My bike is stock under those rules. I think my suggestions might leave some gaps for a few. Its tough to classify the 2 strokes. Should the 250s run with the banshees and zillas? Depends. Ive seen some well built 250s beat some big bikes. Speak up.
 As far as a Polaris class, sure we can have a 2 stroke automatic Polaris class. I'm pretty sure you'll win every race. At $15 to enter a class with $10 going back to pay, you"ll be guaranteed $10. ;D. Other than that where would you like us to put something like that. Its fast as hell, but theres nothing else that shows up like it.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: BIGWORM3699 ( ECP RACING) on January 19, 2005, 12:25:39 PM
I have a freind that runs a 300ex and have a few with warriors that would run but are up against 400s so they choose not to run is there a way to adjust stock class to have same cc run with same cc to let the 250s run with 250s and so on THANKS  ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: badcompanyracing on January 19, 2005, 01:47:29 PM
i'm just talking,  we just bring the polatis just in case there is a class to put it in. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Chillinthemost on January 19, 2005, 06:52:31 PM
Badco, I was just messing with ya. This website really brings the smart azz out of ya. Your Polaris was cool, I ment to get a closer look. I'll check it out this weekend, as a matter of fact, it will probably be one of my losses ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: badcompanyracing on January 19, 2005, 07:03:06 PM
me too chillin don't know about out running anybody though oh and don,t look back to see it that's not safe you can check out in the pits see ya'll in VALDOSTA  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: smokin_zilla on January 19, 2005, 07:09:18 PM
Why fix it if its not broke,leave it alone lets not end up with so many classes that none of them pay.I say option1 ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: 1fastltr450 on January 20, 2005, 04:45:18 AM
I say # 1




clermonts le450 says another vote to leave it the way it is and spend a little beer money to get kids trophies.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: LE450-RACER#77 on January 20, 2005, 03:47:43 PM
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I say # 1




clermonts le450 says another vote to leave it the way it is and spend a little beer money to get kids trophies.


Spend a little beer money hell at 15 dollars each they should be able to get alot of trophies. Or else pay back money to the kids to.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: saltsdale_CEO on January 20, 2005, 04:25:53 PM
Damn and why do we even ask?????? ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Smoknbanshee on January 20, 2005, 06:28:11 PM
okay......i don't mind constructive criticism, and suggestions, but I will say that I do take offense to people getting on here and talking about a little less beer money to pay for trophies.  If anyone thinks we are making a killing at this start putting on some races, and I will stop.  I don't do this for myself only, I do it because there are a bunch of people that enjoy racing.  Now I think we are being awful generous asking for suggestions.  The last race we had like 13 kids, I asked on this internet and had like 7 responses for kids.  The few times before that there were like 2 or 3 kids.  NO, the CEO is not going to spend money on a freaking box of trophies and only have 2 or 3 kids come out.  The CEO and I have talked about getting general trophies or madalions if the consistent # of kids stays up.  If you don't like how this operation is run, stay at home, we don't need you.  If you want to give suggestions, leave the money issue out of this, because no one is getting rich off this.  

Now if anyone wants to talk about money and how much we are making, then you need to call me or see me at the next race 352-516-5756.

Jason


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: cutngrs on January 20, 2005, 06:57:49 PM
when it comes to the kids my three like the trophys   i will be working on a sponser for the trophys this will put this issue to rest


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: tribal_shee on January 20, 2005, 07:36:46 PM
There ya go cut step up to the plate big money.  No seriously, Do parents have to pay for kids to race??? and if so how much? If it's $15 then deffinately they should either get a trophy or pay back like everyone else. The only thing w/ that is the kids would want trophy instead of cash.This means that someones got to break down and put some $ up for prizes. $247 is quite a bit of money at once for 50 trophies for kids class but will pay for thereselves in 1-2 races but should last for 4-5 if kids keep coming back. And If the kids are happy, parents are happy, which means they all keep coming out and support saltsdale. It's deffinately a family event.  Face it Saltsdale is a bussiness and it's finally growing pretty big and ya got to start putting a little money back into it to keep it going and keep the people happy! Not saying that your making a killing but if ya do this it will continue to grow. If not a good thing goes south real quick, and everybody likes coming out.
 Ceo & smokedog please don't take this the wrong way just my 2cents. LUPO


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: 1fastltr450 on January 20, 2005, 09:01:01 PM
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okay......i don't mind constructive criticism, and suggestions, but I will say that I do take offense to people getting on here and talking about a little less beer money to pay for trophies.  If anyone thinks we are making a killing at this start putting on some races, and I will stop.  I don't do this for myself only, I do it because there are a bunch of people that enjoy racing.  Now I think we are being awful generous asking for suggestions.  The last race we had like 13 kids, I asked on this internet and had like 7 responses for kids.  The few times before that there were like 2 or 3 kids.  NO, the CEO is not going to spend money on a freaking box of trophies and only have 2 or 3 kids come out.  The CEO and I have talked about getting general trophies or madalions if the consistent # of kids stays up.  If you don't like how this operation is run, stay at home, we don't need you.  If you want to give suggestions, leave the money issue out of this, because no one is getting rich off this.  

Now if anyone wants to talk about money and how much we are making, then you need to call me or see me at the next race 352-516-5756.

Jason



sorry it is to hard for ya'll to get trphies for the little ones and smoke you need to get your head out of your a$$,never did I say you guys were getting rich off of this deal but if you remember when we started this race it was 12 dollars to race and 4 dollars to get in the gate know it is 15 dollars to race and 5 at the gate and what has changed, you got a tractor to grade the track other then that not a d@mn thing so all I am saying is all this bullsh!t you talked about need money for this we need money for that is not happened. Why cant the ceo buy a box of trophies it is not that much.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Smoknbanshee on January 21, 2005, 04:36:05 AM
get your head out your a$$, there were like 2 or 3 kids until the last two times we had the kids race....there were like 6 kids the race in december, and then 13 in january.  Like I said before, the ceo and I had already talked about doing something for all the kids since there were more kids coming out.  Yes there is a tractor there and the track is graded everytime before we race.  Like I said before, why don't you stick to flat track race, or start your own drag racing.  By the way, I will not respond to you, if you have anything else to say, see me on the 12th or call me.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: 1fastltr450 on January 21, 2005, 04:53:59 AM
 I dont care if you respond to me or not but from the looks of things alot of people  like the idea of trophies


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Quad32x on January 21, 2005, 07:13:26 AM
Hey  smokie , What  I  think  is  going  to happen  is  as  more  and  more  people  hear  about  the  kids  class , more  kids  are  going  to  show  up.  They  have  fun  and  its  less  expensive  than  motocross  so  us  parents  like  that.  Yes  I  know  you  dont  want  to  buy  a  bunch  of  trophies  but  the  kids  deserve  something  nice  and the  parents  enjoy  seeing  that  look  on  there  kids  face  when  they  do  get  something  to  show  off  to  everybody  for  there  accomplishments.  If  theres  any  way  I  can  help  just  let  know.


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: cutngrs on January 21, 2005, 09:58:53 AM
sponser or not ill trough in $50 to help get the trophys started ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: saltsdale_CEO on January 21, 2005, 10:16:20 AM
why don't  you get off the subject of trophies for the kids??? I have said we are looking into it. I am sorry you are not giving an up to date blow by blow on what I am doing. You have giving your suggestion on it. now let me do my part. As you can see it is becoming irritating. You have not even giving me A chance. I am at the piont  that I don't even want to try. I almost hate to even check out the web site now. :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Smoknbanshee on January 21, 2005, 10:30:56 AM
alright guys, first off thank you ltz for calling me so we can get things straight.  Correct me if I am wrong but everyone wants trophies for the kids?  Alright, now that we have that all figured out, on to the next subject.  Any more suggestions on the classes?  


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Quad32x on January 21, 2005, 10:38:19 AM
I  think  they  would  have  been  great  just  leaveing  them  the  same  with  the  exception  of  adding  a  401  to  open  stock  4  stroke  class.  Just  my  2  cents. :)


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: 1fastltr450 on January 21, 2005, 02:04:59 PM
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alright guys, first off thank you ltz for calling me so we can get things straight.  Correct me if I am wrong but everyone wants trophies for the kids?  Alright, now that we have that all figured out, on to the next subject.  Any more suggestions on the classes?  



let me know if you need the # to the place I found and I will gladly give to you


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: Quad32x on January 21, 2005, 07:18:42 PM
Same  here  smoke , I  think  I  can  still  get  you  a  good  deal  at  my  place.  Any  thing  to  help  out. ;D


Title: Re: Saltsdale Classes
Post by: atvaltz on January 22, 2005, 06:14:02 AM
i like chillins idea     it gives the guys on the ltz's and 400ex etc a shot  i got a +1   swingarm lol i cant run with the +5   or more swingarm banshees  etc lol  just my opinion