ATV Florida Forum

What  about  on  site  camping  for  us  that  have  long  drives ?  It  would  be  nice  to  come  up  on  saturday  and  camp  so  we  dont  have  to  get  up  at  5 am  and  drive , stay  till  5:30  and  drive  home  beat.  And  what  about  riding  the  back  area  on  saturday ?  That  would  be  cool ! ;D

Let me talk to Dale on how he wants to handle that. Go to our web site and click contacts and email me I will let you know.

Sandmountain , I  tried  to  email  you  and  it  would  not  go  through.  You  can  contact  me  at  Kawboy32x@aol.com    Thanks , Tim

just my opinion you guys are hurting yourself bad  by not opening on sat.   atleast  the sat before a  race  alot of guys who take racing serious and  have a love for it  come out to test and tune ...especialy the open expert guys cause of the money class  if you cant open on sat i would say open a couple times during the week.Like bartow the make a killing on sat  they have 2 days i say open on sat just shut practice down  a few hours  early  to smooth the track back out   who cares what the mx  or the other tracks look like come sunday.unless your racing the mx track sunday just shut the tt track down a little early sat and  groom it  i think alot  of people (especialy next season)would like to come out on sat to test and tuen there bikes i dont know just  my 2 cents

I Agree With atvaltz and Quad32x !!  

I agree as well.  Alot of the reasons for keeping a bike together and running longer is the ability to test and tune before race day!  As everybody knows, that has been a huge problem for me this year!  Open it for a short period on Saturdays or throughout the week! When you guys get lights then you can open on weekday nights and make some pretty good coin!  just my .0000000000000000000002 cents!

hey i heard yall will start racing on the mx track in the fall are u gonna have the same classes like u do on the tt track?

Hey I agree with everyone else. I also think the track should be open on Saturday. Atleast the Saturday before the race. Me personally I love coming down on the Saturday before the race so that I can learn a few new tricks for Sunday. Shoot if you don't think it works just look at where I have been placing & then look at last Sunday's results. 1st, 1st, & then 2nd behind Thacker.  NOT BAD FOR ONLY RACING 5 TIMES ON THE TRACK !!!!!!!!!  My opinion anyway.

If you don't want everyone on the track on Saturday just the people that race on Sunday have a practice day before the race.

Bartow had 8 riders there Saturday we had about 25 or 30 we only have races 2 times a month the track is open for pactice the other 2 Sundays is that not enough time. Let me know. we need more than 20 people out there to even start the equipment up much less the food and the flagers it takes more people to run the track than what shows up for pactice.
THE NEW POINTS ARE NOW POSTED ON THE WEB SITE Thanks for your input

lol  if bartow only  had 8 riders sat its  a new record i have never been there on sat  and saw less than  20 riders

ok here is  what i think sandmountain needs to change or inprove on for next season if you guys want to attract  and keep riders


1-Get a rubber band  i mean i set there and realy watched  the 3 open class starts and yes mr brandon thacker jumps everyone by atleast a bike length on the start that is not very fair he does it alot(yes you brandon) i got videos  of him doing it alot worse  than 1 bike  not only him but severel riders
i would be willing to pitch in to buy a rubber band so its fair again

2-change the format of like the beginner if there are 15 16 riders instead of doing a 2 moto race then a final moto  do like supercross  split it up into 2 heats   top  2 or 3 out of each heat goes onto main and run a lcq  alot less wear  on the bikes  i am saying this cause open expert next season will have about 15 or 16 people i can count racing in it ...so i dont think a single guy in it isnt running a built motor and  running 3 hard motos  a day is hard on a built motor i mean if you have to run lcq then u should have rode better ,etc it would be your fault as it is now you got to run   3 moto's  hard


these are just opinions  dont take them as i am trying to tell you guys what to do thats not it at all.I am just tryin to make sandmountain a place were  most of the fastest guys in florida run  it has came soooooooooooooo far  and i think you guys can do a few mor ethings and make it a magnet for  riders

Well I am a taker I agree with ever thing you said and I never liked the 3 moto deal Thanks for your time

I dont think there needs to be a bubber band I think there needs to be a light. just my .02 cents. but on the other hand there is aalways room for improvement I feel the money I spend down there has been put to use because there is always something new done every time I go down there . so I also have toi say thank you for a great place to race and lets get that sand drag going

Brandon, bring them videos please. I video every race and I just went back and double and triple checked the starts. Even the one he and Carl took off on Dale's hand was coming down. So come on and show me the videos please. I do agree that a rubber band or gates would be better for the starts but just because that quad is coming out of the hole good don't accuse him of cheating. That is not very nice of you!!!

Dale

Dale,
Brother man! I aint saying its every time, but he does jump the flag a little! I do it to (which is what Brandon meant by "other people to") so I really cant say nothing! But if you remember, we had a restart after he jumped! So go back and look at all your videos, Im sure you'll see what everyone is talking about, and Im sure you'll see me doing it too!! Why do you think that I always get a good Holeshot even when Im on slower bikes than everyone else. ;D
I dont care myself, im just saying that Brandon is not trying to be mean hes just being truthful!  The way I look at it is "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT STAY YOUR WEAK AZZ IN THE BEGINNER CLASS"

HOW YA LIKE ME NOW BRANDON!!!??  [smiley=box.gif]

man jason why u got to  be sooo harsh   see i was gonna let you test the polonda  motor  when i get it from this guy  but man  i dont know after this abuse lol just messin man....dale bro lol like jason said they did a restart he jumped, its all god cause everyone does it i mena last time i ran out there i said to myself alright i am gonna jump on these guys  ...... but  when i get to the line i just cant  beacause it just seems weird  i am used to a gate start  or a start were  everyone   is released at the same time ,,,,,

was not pointed directly toward you guys  dale

geesh i guess everyone got crabby  since i last time i got on here lol  just bustin yall up

So it sounds to me like that the time the flagers hand starts to drop some racers take off is that why the light is an advantage. If this is the case i will look at the lights we have and see if we can get them going by next season. Maybe some people think you should take off when the flag is all the way down and others take of on the movement of the flag. I print all of your ideas and let Dale know so this is all good.

   Everyone is chiming in on the starting issue so here is my thought...dade City flat track uses a traffic light to start their events and it really works because the light is either green or it is red and you can't predict when it will change. In the last several months I have only seen twice where someone jumped the start. The penalty is that rider then has to start at the rear for the restart.
  And one other thing...many of us are really tired of the long haul to Umatilla, please open Sand Drags!!!

The sand drag is next we opened the MX track way to soon we would like for everything to be ready before we open. We have a several traffic lights but we were not ready to put them up yet. I guess we are now. Thanks  

thanks for looking at the suggestions we give you guys at sand mountain. it is nice of all of you to listen  and improve on suggestions

STOP SUCKING UP SLOWLTZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YES YOU GUY'S ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

ARE YA'LL PASSING OUT ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AWARDS AT THE BANQUET ??????????

I will have to ask about that

Do I qualify for Rookie of the Year since this series is the first time ive ridden or raced in 16 yrs?? [smiley=dunno.gif]

hey i am a rookie i have only been racing for about 10 months  


the light idea  isnt gonna solve anything u can still jump  a light unless you got it like  drag racing were u can redlight but since you  got so many guys that wont happen rubbe rband is better the pro's  use rubber band start for tt  it make's  it fair  for all riders.the light will still have people jumping i promise ya

People don't usually jump on a light system because you never know when it is going to turn. If they do jump you will really see it.




Check your pm sandmountain.

We will try to have lights by next season i will find out tomorrow Thanks

i say just use a rubber band i mean then you dont got to worry about   anyone jumping   plus ho wmuch is it like 20 bucks for one  sh*t a whole lot easier to do then to wire a light and do all of that stuff  just stretch the rubbe rband out and let it rip  that system worked great i thought

I  agree  with  atvaltz.  The  rubber  band  start  is  used  in  all  the  pro  tt  races.  If  you  would  like  I  could  find  out  what  a  system  like  that  would  cost.  Sandmountain , you  need  to  understand  what  a  great  opporunity  you  have  to  really  make  something  out  of  this.  Everybody  loves  this  place. If  you  build  it , they  WILL  come !!! ;D

Hey HEy,
    Joe Kirkland here,  slow Vet. rider representative....
 I think that the rubber band is the ticket ( just  My .02 )  if ya jump that joker you will get tied up in it..
 I personally would be agreeable with the light myself, but.... It would take someone really watching the line and if someone jumps, just restart.. no big deal.... do over....... Others might think that if someone jumps penalize them.... Doesnt matter to me.... just do over.... If ya fast ya fast.......  ha  ha ha....
      Hey yall,
          lets change the layout for the next series.... If ya need some ideas let me know.... # 918   slo poking in the VET class.....
       Later
          Joe
P.S.
  sure hope to see the sponsors step to the plate for the class winners at the  banquet... I wont be one of them  ( havent made all the races ) but for the ones who have  man they need something good.....  NOT like the $20 gift cert. that I got for winning the Vet class points championship for the first series... Not bitching but, I hope that things are better for this series.... And just to reassure, I love what ya have going at Sand Mt.  cant wait till the MX series starts...

P.S.S.    I have some ideas as far as class structure, and promotion ideas for the classes,  cause some of the Open Beginners dont belong there, but they wont step up..... there needs to be a limit as to how long a rider can stay in  a class like that......                 WHen ya get old enuff ya can stay in a wussy class like me...... VET RULES

yea joe i think you are going in the right direction  i would like to see  cc limit class's like open class 450 and below stuff liek that i know tony wants to run there next series but he dont want to  do motor work and alot of guys with the stock 450's just cant hang with all the built motors and  now that is step up to a higher class time for  those guys soem fo them are just gonna stop running out there and i  hate to see that

just some ideas for next season

IT DONT MATTER WHAT CLASS STRUCTURE I RACE IN, I JUST WANT TO FINISH ON MY OWN QUAD FOR A CHANGE!  HOPE TO HAVE HER THERE FOR THE LAST RACE OF THE SERIES.

soo whens the next race? is it on the the 1st? just tryin to see if i can get off work on that date so i can see the last race of the series.

I talked to Dale Saturday we will be putting up the lights we will try them on non points races and see how everyone likes them if not we may go to the band. We want to make sure we dont change during the points races. so what everyone likes is what we will use all seson. Thank you

Lights, rubber band, or flag, you will always have some who think it is unfair for them. So do what you all thinks works for you. I think you have done a wonderful job in creating a place for families to come out and have a good time. I know the time we have spent there has been absolutely priceless for my family. Thank you all very much. I am kinda sad to see the season end because of the fun we have had. We are looking forward to next season too though. My only suggestion is maybe have a stock only class with no changes to exhaust or suspension except maybe tires and axle or spacers, might give the newbies a place to start. Just keep doing what you are doing. We do love Sand Mountain Speedway.      Dale

Thats a good idea and we do thank you but we will still continue to be open through the summer we will have ride only days and non point races. We like to see familes out there those kids just light up when when they ride. My son races too. Thanks to all for comming out we listen and it will only get better. Sand Mountain Staff

Well im up for night time racing... summer is to hot be be sitting out in the 110heat all day with no shade..
if yall start doing night time events ill be a regular..

whin, whin, whin, you dont see the pros quite racing cause of the heat do you. buy a tent and quite being a baby


whew glad I got that out lol my back even feels better know

I agree with TBR    years ago when we all raced 3-Wheelers the stock class was one of the most competitive classes out there.... We could change Handlebars, use a twist if we wanted, could use different tires, and run offset rims..... BUt I would agree with spacers..... There are lots of different class suggestions that could be applied....
  I think there needs to be a greater displacement differentiation between classes.... ex: 400EX vs YFZ 450.... in the open classes..... no contest...... Make a 0-300 class (no 250R's) then a 301-400 class, then 401-Open..... And I realize that ya cant have 55 classes in one day.. but we could get the engine sizes a little closer..
 Also.  might need to consider a promotion points system like they use in the FTR series.... A win = so many promotion points, once you reach so many points you are moved into the next class..... or maybe use the "A B C" classifications like they do in FTR also.....
       Got lots of suggestions, lets talk sometime.
            Later
              Joe

Dont really have an opinion on the other classes, but I do have one suggestion.  Expert class should be wide open. Run what you brung! And please tell me that some of the amateurs are going to be graduated!  We need a few more quads in the big boy class!
We do need to do a qualifier and Last Chance Qualifier when there are more than can race at one time!
First 3 places from each moto go to the main, First 2 or 3 places from LCQ go to main ( depending on how many people are in the LCQ) When Expert class gets bigger, alot of us dont want to run 3 races. We have to much $$ in our quads! And its starting to get hot!
jt

lol jt not everybody has an overheating problem like you.. but yes having qualifing and lcqs would be a good idea if the class is too big. maybe we could get an atva rule book to help out with the different classes? just an idea  

well  you know i had to get some more say in on this  lol  :o

i like  joe's idea  jason just wants people to run what they brung cause he has the biggest motor blah blah blah blah lets run what we brung on the tt track then lets all take our happy selfs over to the mx track  lol see  now you guys gotta dump another 5k into your bike fockers lol  thats what i have been tryin to set my bike up for is both but its very hard to do and  getting very exspensive....

i vote we have a mandatory motor inspection lol lets see who's lying and who's telling the truth lol  ::)  wont mention no names   :-X :-X :-X :-X  lol just playing .
thats why i say joey has a good point there  with the cc limit.  Then again the problem is there is a ton of guys riding 660 raptors and whatever else there is that dont wanna jump in there with all the built 450's  and etc  but yet the raptors and etc are not  able to be in stock class cause they got pipes and stuff  i dont know i will just run my old stock 250r in the 301-400 class lol should be a good class
ill drop the z back down to stock bore and  run it  lol  nah but all joking asside
i say we need to have a meeting at the banquet and  get a few 3 or 4 ideas from people and have a vote   cause i do think some class's   and etc needs to be  changed a little bit for next season  

wel i am back out to work on the ol zuki
i am out fockers [smiley=banghead.gif] [smiley=banghead.gif] [smiley=banghead.gif]


yea i  agree with eric not everyone  rides a honda 2 stroke so we dont overheat
us zuki riders can run 20 motos and it would still be cool  lol(yea right wont even last a race without blowing up)

There will not be a motor inspection if it gets that bad we are wasting our time this is not the pros lets have fun if you runaway with it then you need to move to the next class and we know who you are. Next year there will be changes and it is all from the input of you. So lets just have fun. Again if you dont like what you see you can let us at Sand Mountain you know we will listen. I know we wont make everone happy but we will do the best we can.  

Jason,
  hey bro, not sayin that ya cant run what ya brung.... just run it against the other guys who have those big $ motors... they want to run what they brung also...   just sayin that if the classes were a little more evenly matched some of the other riders may have a more fair opportunity to run competitively against their opponents....
   Who wants to run their STOCK Z-400 in the open beginner class against those "beginner" quads..... I know that you and I are fast guys but when you are out motored you are out motored..... I know man,  I've had to eat roost behind that monster of yours before...... BUt I still love ya.... ;D
        Later
        Joe

I agree Brandon. I think them Thacker boys are lying. Let's put up 500 each and tear them quads down. Let's see, wasn't that you that said a 450R could never beat the 380's???  [smiley=foot.gif]Maybe not. No matter what the classes the winners are always cheating and the losers are the only ones playing by the rules. We are just trying to have fun.  ;D

I understand your point that would have to be between you and them. I wish I could be more helpful.We look at numbers not at names. The people that score only put the number down on the score cards then we have to put the number with the racer at the end of the race. Thats why it sometimes takes so long to get your award after the race.

lol i dont care what ya got done to those hondas to be honest with ya   i know thos e380's are putting out over 60hp no way in hell your honda at a standard bor eis getting close to that  it will not out run jt's 380 lol you beat his 1 time and i dont think he has that thing dialed in 100%

i say this week if his bike is runnin good no one will touch him just from talkin to him he is pretty confident

i was just joking about the tear down thing damn like u said have fun lol  a joke  ha ha ha  u know

man maybe i should get that trx i was gonna get i mean if yours is standard and running with the 380's the 520 should pull them  5 or 6 bikes down the straight  :o

joe,
I see your point w/ all the other classes.  Just would like to see the open expert class w/ the biggest baddest bikes, with the biggest baddest riders!  It makes it more exciting!  Maybe there could be an open money race for that!  

How come everyone talks about a 20 year old bike running against the new big bad 450-500 cc 4 strokes.  Come on guys, its just a little ole' 250 and is older than most the people that race!!!! [smiley=dunno.gif]

Besides, If you guys think its easy puttin my quad around the track, feel free to take it for a few laps.  Ridin' LE's quad the other day was a pleasure. It took half the energy that my "R" does to ride.

Dale,
Those TBR quads CANT run w/ the 380! Im gonna show you Sunday! For at least 3 laps anyway [smiley=laugh.gif]
Thats either when I get tired or my quad overheats!
Brandon has to finish 1 spot in front of Wes to take the points lead!  For enough cash I can hold him up for you! Of course I told him the same thing 8)
BY THE WAY!!  I THINK MY QUAD IS GONNA BE DRUNK SUNDAY! LETS SEE WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS!!!
C YOU CHUMPS SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!

Ok guy's, I go away for the weekend & this is what I come home to. Quit crying & lets just race !!!!!!!   I put a new pipe on my 450 & learn to ride it & now you want to change all the rules. Come on man just let me win a race or 2 before you change it all up.

The only changes that I would agree on would be the starting line & only run the beginner class for 1 year. If you race mx every year & then you come out to race the TT track that doesn't make you a beginner so race people that are more your caliber.  JUST REMIMBER....RACING PEOPLE THAT ARE SLOWER THAN YOU & KILLING THEM DOESN'T MAKE YOU FAST.

HEY JT I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I KNEW YOU WOULD!!!! ;D

LE
AMATEUR CLASS will be very interesting next season! Especially when we put that 540 kit in yours! :o

just kiddin' guys! its not gonna be a 540! dont get skurred!

Cant wait till everyone graduates!! But im gonna tell you boys 1 MORE TIME!!!!  Watch out for number 9!!! He WILL be the man to beat! :o

OK one last time, those TBR 450r's are not I repeat not bored. I don't know if they can always beat a 380 or YFZ's. I know they are both running very good and Sunday we will see. one more thing is that both of these boys are not that bad of riders either. Lyndon has jumped from one quad to another and still done well. Brandon has NO FEAR at all, that always makes him someone to deal with.

hey, Im not saying they are bored! I just know they are fast! Does it really matter anyway? Its mostly rider after its all said and done.
Dale,
If theyre talking about you then your doing something right! Thats all i got to say!  I know when I was on my R when its was only about a 285 and beating everyone (including Hugh's 380) everyone thought there was more done to it as well! I say "lets race".  And ya best bring it cause Im feeling real
c o c k y! [smiley=lecture.gif]
All you punk sissies best stay home! [smiley=box.gif]

OK LADIES THE WAY I'M FEELING ABOUT THIS WEEKEND I MAY JUST STEP UP & RUN THE AM CLAS TO SO YOU BETTER BE RIDIN.

IF MY BACK GETS BETTER THAT IS....... I AM OUT FOR THE 60 POINTS THIS TIME SO LOOK OUT FOR THAT LITTLE OL # 77.

le you need 60 points but that still want even put you up there with me

It will be just a single green light unless they see when the button is pushed they wont be able to jump the starter will have control of the light so he should be able to see the jump.

I am glad to see the light and I think that is the fairest way to do it

The light sounds like a good idea to me, we'll see how it works. There is always a lot of trash talking in racing but I think there are a few cry babies in this post. I agree there shold be limits on each class and it is going to be hard to please everyone. I have a hard enough time tring to keep up in the OB class with the raptor but if need be I will move up. There are quite a few of us in the OB class that need to move up. In order to go faster you have to ride with people that are faster than yourself. When you get to that point then you need to be honest with yourself and move up in class instead of just taking home the trophy. I am game for what ever Sandmountain decides. I will race in any class. It does not matter what place you finish as long as you know that you gave it 150%. Thats my 2cents. Cya SUNDAY.

Just thinking out loud, but promoting riders once a series has started might be a little unfair. To me Lyndon is a perfect example. He had only ridden a 450 2 or 3 hrs at most when he started racing the second race of the season.It takes him almost the entire season to capture the point lead. Should he have been moved up? And if so when? Setting up rules for this to me is almost impossible.To move someone up during a series means you are taking something they worked hard for away from them. Any other thoughts on this???

very true throw away wat u worked hard 4

While I am on the subject, what about next year?? Should Lyndon run both open am and open expert. If not should vets be allowed to also run in open classes?? Can youth run in youth and open?? I can tell you this Lyndon wants to run in both, not because he thinks he can win either one but because he LOVES TO RACE. Any thoughts on this???

I don't really have any ideas for next series but, Lyndon and I both love to race. I would not like the idea of us going down there to race for 8 minutes each. There wouldn't be much fun in that to us, losing or winning. Lyndon did do an excellent job this year for starting out as a true beginner on a 450r. He did that over half the series on a hrc cammed bike, no pipe or air filter. So I dont think someone who does it like that should be moved up a class in the middle of the series. But I like to be able to race 2 classes. We could keep the expert class and call the other one the no whining class

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i   am just trying to  point out a couple things sm could do to bring more racer's  in .I dont got alot of say since i wont make many races at sm next season  but i would like to see the mx track and the tt track  be  the best around.I do agree with TBR  moving someone up in the middle of the season is bs i remember a few months back  i was sandbaggin and i needed to move up lol i started the series  as sm my very first race ever on a bone stock kfx400  so i ran the series out in that class.if you moved up  everytime you or someone started winning it would be no fun realy i mean winning a series or having a win streak is a awesome feeling and if you moved  up everytime it would suck..

dont know just my opinion
not that it as important as some people's on here ::)

Everone needs to understand nothing is in concrete that is why we are all here talking about this everything I here from you guys will go to Dale we have a few months before we start the next set of points races. So keep with the input the rules we have now for next season are in pencil it will work out. Not everyone will be happy but we will listen.

knarly

Lets add a money race instead of paying in the expert class. That way whoever is racing in that class knows there are going to be fast bikes in it.  

Would all you guys shut up and start talkin smack!  Im the only damn person in here talkin' trash! PLEASE tell me your not scared to talk smack to the old guy!! [smiley=box.gif]

You punks know im  [smiley=trophy1.gif] !!!!!

We can start backwards for all i care, you still better ride!!!
My quad better hold together or so help me God ill roll it out in front of all of you right in the middle of the race!!!!!!

JT
I hope that the alcohol that you are going to run in it makes it run better so you can stay up with the rest of us

Finally! Someone with some balls!!!

lets have a beer

i 2nd that!
[smiley=drink.gif]

ok what kind?

My suggestions are not to kick anyone out of any classes, just make enuff classes for everyone..... Again, I realize that EVERYONE cant be made happy but there are lots of ways to do things...
  In promoting someone to another class mid season,  they wouldnt start over, they would take a percentage of their points with them..... so as not to throw away their hard work...
   Hell, it dont matter to me either, the 2 classes that I would run (Vet. + Expert) are gonna be the same anyhow... Just trying to think of the other riders who love Sand Mt. as much as I do.....
   I dont believe in the whole tech. inspection thing  at all.... Are we racing for a world championship here or what???  If a factory ride were on the line then the Open class rules would have to be evaluated.... But its local bragging rights and most of all its supposed to be fun......  IF anything I think a check should be made for a functioning kill switch and that ones front and rear brakes work properly.... otherwise I think tearing down someones motor is kinda petty and dumb.....
   I think the Thackers 450R hauls ass,  and I dont care what's done to it..... Unless I was to build a 450R for myself.... they did a great job with it........   Congrats to them...
    JT's "R" hauls ass,  Wes's "R" hauls ass......
 THose bikes are fast... But what make them really fast is the guys whose ass is on the seat...
                Later
               Slow Vet. Joe

I love Joe! who else loves joe! We all love joe!
By the way, thanks for volunteering for the banquet brother!!
that was huge of you! [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif]

Who said anything about alchohol! I dont know what your talkin bout! ??? ;D

Joe,                                                                              Well said and thanks
JT
You and your quad are old enough to drink if you want I just hope you can both handle your alcohol. You know some fall apart when they drink
Dale

I dont understnd this mid season thing this not mid this end for a while we are not having points races for a few months this will be practice time

I think we are all just brainstorming for you all. We are all just trying to bring up issues that might or might not arise next season We all love racing there. Just want it to be the very best it can be. I know I get after JT and Brandon G. but I would be the first one there to help them out also.
Dale

Thats it  i would do the same thing for anyone else at the tack if i cna help ya i will  i mean rick will be riding  my bike this week  if he is able to race in open exp  not only cause he is my friend but i want to see him finish in the top 5 fo rthe year and get something at the awards.I know i have set here at the house a few nights thinking what i need to do to run that damn tbr honda down  along with those  damn 380's  i know at the  beggining   of the season thackers were getting the ideas together on what to do to there bikes to make then run  faster lol  its all just one big hobby(exspensive hobby at that)

when i show up to the track dont get me wrong weather sm  or a national race i am there for one thing and to win if i dont win i know i left everything i had out on the track i gave it 150%...i know those thacker boys do the same along with jt,rick,joe,steve,etc lol we are getting to the point know were we will be making the bikes actually have to much power not saying  no names(caugh jt... caugh.... jt) lol   its all in fun

dale and everyone else knows we may talk alot of smack and rag on each other but  like he said he needs a damn rim to mak enext moto lets take mine off, bike brakes and i am not in the class run mine ,,,,etc  like last race those boys showed me alot when they let tony ride there honda even though it wasnt me  tony is a good friend when i saw that i was like  i may get mad sometimes when they beat me but that showed some heart....but if the shoe  was on the other foot i would have done it, for them and i am sure tony would have also

even though u never know when those damn zukis' are gonna blow  lol

One thing I can sey about you guys you are competitive but you are all still frends(well to your faces anyway) just kidding. Maybe thats why we have so little problems out there all of you make it alot easier to show up out there even after a 50 or 60 hour work week. We have very little work after you leave on race day. There is little or no trash on the ground and we appreciate that. I also would like to see that this is one of the better places to race so if we keep the  communication between us (and the smack) it will be a better place. I cant say this enough thanks from all of us to you.
Sorry JT dont puddle up on us.

Sandmountain , What  about  the  overnite  camping  ??? ??? ???

Yes we have a few that come in Saturday around 4:00 but there is no riding on Saturday

i still say you guys need to re open on sat it sure woul dbe nice to be able to come out and test and tune ;D

Sandmountain , what  about  just  riding  on  the  trails  and  hills  in  the  back  on  sat.  ??? ;D

Are you the one that has been tring to Email us on the web site

hey sand mountain i tryed to email u couple times on ur site but i think u should let us practice on saturday espicially when yall open the mx track to go and practcie and feel the track

Sandmountain , check  your  PM. ;)

This is what I think... Brandon stinks and can't ride, JT only wins b/c of his ridin' skills not his bike(Which is literally dinosaur s*#@), and the Thacker boys are runnin' jet propelled rockets in dem Hondas >:(. That's why noOne else can catch em. I got a plan this upcoming series though. I'm scrapin' my R1 and puttin the 998cc 150HP motor in my YFZ. It'll then be dubbed the YFZR1000. That'll shet all yall up!! ;D (After you see my laying dead on the infield trying to control that thing :-/)

lol thats funny. JT winning because of his riding skills ::).. when was the last time JT has won?  i think it was back when it was me and marshall racing him on a 400EX and predator. and the only way he did that was because he could pull us down the straight. Man i love gettin him fired up.  ;D ;D ;D

This is what I think... Brandon stinks and can't ride, JT only wins b/c of his ridin' skills not his bike(Which is literally dinosaur s*#@), and the Thacker boys are runnin' jet propelled rockets in dem Hondas . That's why noOne else can catch em. I got a plan this upcoming series though. I'm scrapin' my R1 and puttin the 998cc 150HP motor in my YFZ. It'll then be dubbed the YFZR1000. That'll shet all yall up!!  (After you see my laying dead on the infield trying to control that thing )




if only you knew  if only you knew LOl the thacker boys just run 151% and a little things helped them called a HONDA

Hold the  phone Sand MT.,
  we are just talking over ideas for next season... I'm aware that the summer races will NOT be part of the next series or the current.... ANd thanks alot for having racing during the so called "OFF SEASON"   Man, we all got the shaft last year when those freakin hurricanes came thru.... that sucked...
   It might be cool if we could all have a meeting sometime to discuss different ideas..... I assure you that all who have posted on this thread only have the tracks best interest in mind.....
    Thanks Again for a great track
            Later
                Joe

Hey Brother,
    not a problem man... just thought it might be cool to have a few tunes while we are all hanging out.... make it a little more like a party.... Daniel C. is gonnna be hitting the skins, and Jimmy Miller will be thumping the bass..... and I'll be singing and playin the Geetar......... I'm sure Dan'l will probably sing a few numbers also....   It will be fun....
     Hope the place sells cold beer........
           See yall Sunday.
                  Joe

Now  thats  a  man  with  a  plan !! [smiley=drink.gif] ;D ;D

sweet dude

lol rob we had this same little chat that i am about to tell you with wayne a few months  back!!!!!!!!!!!!if you dont  wanna show that yamaha at a race you cant get on here and talk smack.I have not saw you out there in a few months   so  bring your   self to the track already  !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes Brandon my quad is toooooo fast!  No Eric i dont know how to ride!  And the only reason i beat people is because i pull them down the straight away!! I mean, seriously, its not like i raced other 380's, crf500 motors, yfz 510 stroker kits, banshees, and other fast quads! Those quads usually race in the beginner class!!  Only 300 ex's race the expert class! ???

The simple reality is that when we all line up at the start/finish, and you boys look down the line- YOU KNOW IM THERE. AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT IT!!

PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT! ;D

Dang !!!!! :o   Lean  on  em  RTR !!! ;D ;D ;D

DALE,
Not only was that a clever comeback but very, very funny!!
I have nothing to say! ???

I told you already like I'm telling you again... I can't come out to race when I'm at work. When they changed the w/e they opened the MX track it messed up my rotation since I work everyother w/e. You know that. We'll see how the rotation falls next series though.

i cant wait till they open up the mx track hey yall no the double in the back like the one before the table top has any one hit that? not the really small one , but you think a 300 could? im gonna try that sunday

no cuz 300s suck  :o

Sandmountain please sa you are going to be open tomorrow. I just put the finishing touches on the #78 TBR Honda. I need to try out the bike before the race.

no brandon too bad

Sorry we cant.

Hey everyone the points are up thanks for being there (sorry about the rain