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I had an appointment with my vet to come out & put my old Shepheard down. He lived a good life & had a large softball size tumor growing around his rear leg on the outside.It was starting to get the better of him & couldnt walk so good. It was time. poor guy Im going to miss him he was a good dog............

Anyway I was out spending the last few moments with him awaiting the vet who lives out here in acerage as well.His arrival was really bringing me down and then I get a call to say he is running late.SO I spent whattime I had left with MAX & the vet finally arrived to do it.

The vet obviously distraight I asked what was wrong,Come to find out 4 pitbulls broke through his fence into his BULL's area & attacked him,somehow the bull got drug or fell into the pond & it was drowned by the dogs. What caused that? You wonder why Pits get a bad name. I have nothing against any breed. I was playing with a PIT yesterday at the shop my truck was being repaired.I have 3 other surviving Shepheards and have buddies with dobermans & rottweilers. So why the attack what prevoked it? The poor vet is so mild mannered and easy going to have to witness this on his own property not to be able to stop or do anything about it.I WOULD HAVE SHOT EACH ONE OF THOSE F&*(^(*^(ING DOGS!

The woman who claimed they were her dogs scooped them up into her truck & gave all bogus info,she even had the nerve to ask if her dogs were hurt? WTF is wrong with people. KEEP your animals loccked up.There are ways to secure even the sneaskiest ones.He called PBSO,Animal control etc...bottom line is nobody really cares. Now hes got a 5-600lb bull in his pond dead.Im going to try & pull him out with Rhino or ATV since the property is fenced and we cant get a truck to it.

JUSTIFY THAT?

Sad story.
Sorry about Max. I feel your pain brother. I had to do it with our Am Staf at 15yrs old (the dog). One of the saddest days of my life.

It's good of you to help out the vet. You're a good man Werner (A homo, but a good man at least)  ;)

Well we all know it was the bulls fault.... ;)just joking. Sorry, I had to, but I know this is no laughing matter. I hope that lady gets her deserves. She should have to pay for the bull & the removal of the carcus as well as any fence mending to remove it.

Like you said they should have all been put down with lead immediately.

I didn't get involved in the last thread, but I agree that pits are on a different level than other dogs. When they attack it is to the death.

Ok ya know what enough with the...

oh hell NM..lol

Sorry to hear about your dog Bush.

As for the pits attacking the bull, any pack of dogs could have done it, they are more aggressive as a pack.There is no justification on what they did. And if they killed something/someone they should be put down. And I (choking on words) agree with Green on this. The woman should be held reliable and have to pay for everything.

TRX it's not just pits that attack to the death, the only reason they are on a different level is b/c thats how everyone sees them. ANY breed of dog that has more than 2 are considered a pack and will be aggressive no matter the breed. I have seen cattle dogs ripping ears off cows, Hunting dogs ripping the throat out of their prey. Not all those are pits. Alot of Cats kill things everyday does that make them as bad? I've seen on TV where a bunch of cats killed and ate their owner..people don't think the same way of cats b/c they are small and no one thinks they can do that much damage.

that is what they were breed for. fighting bulls in the ring a long time ago. hence the name pit bull. they got the pit part from fighting other dogs in underground pits. not saying it was excusable and that is what they should have done. but it is like any dog and i bet if my dog saw a bull it would run. sounds to me that the owner is not very responsible with her dogs. blame the deed not the breed. it is all on the owner and how they are trained. shame on that lady! people like that are what give the dogs bad names!

sorry to hear about your loss! there is nothing like losing your dog but he is in a better place now and his pain is relieved!

Sorry to hear about your dog, the samething happened to our boxer.  I loved that dog :(.

Anywho, she should pay for it.  I (keyword: I) believe that when dogs are in packs they tend to be more aggresive.  No chance in hell a single dog, let alone a pitbull would do this.  Its just like humans, we like to get into packs and gang up on one.  They are animals, and thats their nature. 

EDIT: Darn it blu, you got to it before me :P

Sorry about your dog........  :(

I know women are faster AND Smarter :) lol

I have nothing against the pits they are cool dogs. Its just another instance of what THEY did. The owner not being responsible DOG owner. I was throwing the ball for a PIT he was as sweet as could be.The point here is just to make owners responsible for the dogs actions.Since they (pits) are more likely to be aggressive they need to respond to voice commands,it comes down to responsible ownership. My Shep's in a pack are pretty ferrocious.But they dont run free.Never have gotten out & I have taken the time to train them & they listen.They are not tied up with a 3' chain that weighs more than them to a tree.

Thanks for your kind words about MAX.

amen! couldnt have said it better my self!

Bummer about losing the dog, bro...sorry to hear that.


Blu is right though, any pack of dogs could have done that!  I was attacked by a pack of feral dachshunds when I lived in Amsterdam! It was a very vicious attack. Luckily they have incredibly tiny legs and I was able to stand on a coffee table and keep them off me while I cried like a little beyootch and waited for help to arrive. Similar thing happened to me when I was living in France, only that time it was TOY POODLES. 

I would have to say that Dachshunds are as deadly or possibly even more deadly than Pit Bulls, which is why I think they should pass laws against breeding Dachshunds.

Rico your a goober! lol

Will you guy's quit beating a dead pit bull, no I mean bull, no what i meant to say was horse.

Rico is right. I read about attacks from poodles, ridge backs, blood hounds and yorkies all the time.
I think all dogs should be banned like three-wheelers.

I still hate cats.

Gerbils Rule.

Don't even begin to tell us why you like gerbils. :D

Because you can't handle/ride one...don't hate on 3-wheelers.   ;D

There hasn't been a full moon....  :-\ , is it something in the water?   :o

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=92990 (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=92990)

Sad...but luckily the guy wasn't seriously hurt. 

Oh..... He know how to ride gerbils!       ;)

Armageddon!!!!!! Armageddon!!!!

lmao, did you ever heard that sound clip?

who keeps a bull on 1 and half acre??Anyway pits are just more affective at attacking,it wasnt the bread.When you start out with"pits again"you are playin the same game the media does when they report ATV accidents that happen to drunk retards  who are going too fast like its the norm amoung atv riders.

Back to Pit Bulls...............  you mean


same people who keep horses ,chickens & cows.The point is NOT who keeps what where. The POIN IS THE FREAKING DOGS entered a fenced yard & killed another animal unprovoked.THE POINT IS LOCK UP YOUR FREAKING ANIMALS whether they are Pits,chiwawas,poodles etc.......RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP now do you get the point.

We wont mention several months back when 3 loose pits attacked and drowned a horse in a pond in acerage as well.

Oh who keeps a horse on 1 acre,the nerve.

I don't know about any of ya'll but I've seen some pretty mean Bulls... You don't even have to provoke them and they charge you like they want some a$$! What COULD have happened is.......

Pitbull was walking through the pasture miding his own business when BAM! bull decides to ram him...Pitbull gets up tries walking off again and BAM! another time....Now the bull is over there laughin' cause this big aggressive breed has just been knocked over twice by a bull. So now the bull starts taunting the pitbull laughing at him and the pitbull (like Men) Always wanna fight when they get laughed at. So he tries the bull and gets his a$$ kicked AGAIN!!! So now the pits really mad and goes for back up. They 4 come back start growling showin some teeth and muscle and asking the bull who's bad now! Bull gets a few good licks in but the pits back him into the water (Everyone knows bulls can't see behind them) and he falls in the water. Now the pits are pickin at the bull laughin at him sayin he's a wetback and the bull gets stuck in the mud. He tries to pull himself out but couldn't do it. So the pitbulls go in and start jumpin on him and he gets mad cause the dogs won and he drowns himself to get out of the humiliation that he got beat by dogs. Dogs say hey thats a waste of some good steak I'm sure the bull won't mind and have some rare T bones....



Hey it COULD have happened like that! LMAO

Now see what ya'll have started.You have made a monster out of her,And I have to live with her.Thanks

the larger bull dogs  where actually bred for that. ive had dogs attack  goats that we have had that where not pitt bulls what caused that ??

They were just trying to feel tough so the pit bulls wouldn't laugh at them.

Yea well nice synopsis but THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS it was private property.The bull was a pet.The 1/4 acre was cross fenced with 4" sqare livstock fence for the pen & pond area with a 4' tall chain link with a gate across drive around the entire 1.25 acres. These are residential/agricultural homes.It seems like they jumped the 4' fence & went under teh gate to the cross fenced area. Real fun pulling a 500lb Bull out of a pond today. It would have been easier if they SHOT the dogs who were tresspassing & running wild.Might be all fun & games but think of the family who lost there pet.They think its focking hysterical dont they.

Show me more than a couple articles of where any other breed has randomly attacked & KILLED animals or people & I will show 10 to those about PITS.

Bottom line is Dogs were wrong the Bull didnt invite them in to party & they got focked up on shrooms & went bezerk & decided to kill the Bull.

good call time to make some tea.

Pack mentality??  People do it too, gangs are a prime example.  No sense in what they do, they just do it.

when i was little. i got ran down by a pack of 3 or 4 chihuahuas.no lie.
i was like 7 years old.
i was walking minding my business , and i hear some yapping coming behind me and i see 3 little light brown rat looking things , i ran and went to my house. i was pale. lmao.

ill never forget the day i got chased down by 3 chihuahuas.

Maybe A roid rage?what you feedin them dogs? lol

Last time I checked Dogs can't read.. I mean I've never personally had one tell me if they could or not but I'm guessing they can't so the private property signs probably didn't matter to the dogs. Anything you put in a pack/gang will attack. People included. It's not a joking matter, I was just trying to lighten the mood since I know sooner or later it will be another all out attack on the breed. I can show you a breed that has killed thousands a year compared to the pitbull. People. You show me 10 compared to that. People are more dangerous than any dog...so why is it people can be excused for killing but this breed can't? Most cases are automatically pitbulls, just like most murders are blamed on Blacks or Mexicans. it's discrimination no matter how you look at it. Just people are arguing b/c the dogs can't defend themselves.

DUH Cant read that is exactly the most ignorant coment one can make to justify oh there a pack.They can roam free without reprocussion because they cant read or write.Oh gee fellas heres a fence Im allowed to jump the one in my yard so lets jump this one too.STUPID PEOPLE should NOT OWN STUPID DOGS.

It just goes right back to the owner the PIT BULLS that savagely attacked and killed an animal.Must be real ignorant owning a pack and I bet that it wasnt the first time that this happened either.If they need to jump a fence in order to attack than there is a serious problem.Maybe to inbred with aggretion trates,more than likely. But who cares that they had a strong enough drive to pass 2 fences for there target.That dont make any difference right. How would that have played out if it was a school bus stop with kids getting off the bus?

Oh yea they cant read SCHOOL BUS dont attack the children so its all good.

The PIT BULLS did what they do & no one takes responsibility.Its all good all the excuses blah blah blah with no sympathy for the owners who did everything right to give there pet a good safe home.Lets just blame it on them and leave it at that.

NO Wonder people hate PIT BULLS. Its non sympathetic stupid coments that there owners make trying to justify there behavior.


As for humans ...........................whatever they have been killing each other since they could.It dont make it right.
Later Im done.

I wasn't making excuses. I don't justify what they did and if you would have read my first post I said that. B/c I crack jokes I'm ignorant? I'm trying to lighten the mood. I never blamed the owner of the Bull, I wasn't saying that b/c they can't read it makes them a pack either. That was the the stupidest wording of it I have ever seen. I agree it does come back to the owners that's what we've been b!tching about for the last couple posts that have been made. I'm starting to wonder if you can read by the way you mix up the words. Maybe a lil dyslexic? Oh hold on so you can read it...cixelsyd lil a ebyaM I mean come on quit trying to mix my words they are in plain English. I'm agreeing with you on the dogs and the punishment. I'm agreeing with you that the woman should have to pay for everything. Hell I'm agreeing with you ...that should count for something!

Ok I'm done No more BS over stupid comments I've learned no matter what I say it can always be mixed around. Learn to take a joke and have a sense of humor!

i shoudl of added more to my first  post. bushwacker i agree  with  the shooting of the dogs! Even as a owner of pitts if they are on my property doing something liek that  they will get a bullet  very quick like. thats what happened to the pack that got ahold of  our  goats. all were domesticated dogs from my parents neighborhood. dogs  are pack animal even pitts to a certain extint. yes what happen is tragic but it can't be blamed on a breed just the 4 dogs that did it. i would  hunt her azz down and  she would probably get served and her dogs would get put down after i was doen with the whole situation

That is why the jails are full of them.

I hope not to offend anyone but..............Blacks and pitbulls reputations are self made. The way they are stereotyped is because of there actions, not because of something someone made up over night.

You can't deny that!

My schnauzer which is like 2-3ft tall , or less , tried to attack a huge pitbull , who was also a female. and the pitbull just wanted to play with my dog. my grumpy ass dog wanted to eat the pit. haa

That is a misprint. You probably figured I meant they ARE self made not aren't.

Maybe Im a bit jazzed up because I saw first hand & spent 2 hours in & out of a pond trying to help the owner drag the dead bull out.Puts a different perspective on it rather than reading it in the news.

ACTUAlly , FORGET IT . i edited my post. i dont want to get into this discussion. lol.

a bull for a pet?hmmm  i bet he rides a bike with a reaview mirror to and those queer looking pants.Its a real shame that all that beef  was ruined.We could have had a nice barbque.Bad dog!
Personally I think an acre and a half isnt enough land for a cow or a horse.Its barely room for 3 people and a couple dogs.I do agree that owners need to take responsibility to keep the dogs from damaging other peoples property.Dogs are good escape artists though and it is easier said than done.My pitbull gets out a lot but has never hurt anyone or any animals.She just wants to play.I am working to fix the fence where she gets out today.

True to a point.Only thing is with murderers they are put in a jail that the victims relatives pay for him to stay at.He gets cable, food and Bubba everyday. Pits get shot and don't have another chance like people do. If they do decide to put the pits down they better do it humanely, police find out about them getting shot and they will put you in jail and PETA will burn you for animal cruelty

Relax there little man. It was a joke. Besides, I've owned more 3-Wheelers than you can imagine. Yep, all the way back to a 1970 USA90.

the  4 dogs should put down period  and i own pitts i would of  put the damn things down my damn self i would of emptied atleast one  clip of 40s&ws at there ass. its not right  for any brred of dog to  do it. and  there are more than  one breed  that is capable of  doing it