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Title: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 07:20:26 PM
ok..after all the great suggestions and help..i had a friend come over today with a compression meter..120 each head..so i was telling him how my choke sucked itself in until i cleaned it..and it pulls way to far out..i thought i had fixed it though..and it turns out i think my choke is trash..anyone ever had this happen before? i guess i need a new choke..i gotta start lookin on ebay..THANX FOR THE HELP EVERYONE! very helpful!


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 07:30:23 PM
anyone have a pic of the choke the way it should look..because i don't exactly get why mine isn't working..maybe a simple gasket?..thanx


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 25, 2007, 08:37:51 PM
Glad you found it.


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: 06 BaNsHeE on September 25, 2007, 08:39:02 PM
well you want a whole left carb?I got one laying


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 08:59:36 PM
well all i need is the choke..is yours good?


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: 06 BaNsHeE on September 25, 2007, 09:03:01 PM
Nevermind...Ill sell you both carbs with tors removal for cheap tho...Perfect choke and cleaner than a whistle.PM me if you want it


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 09:22:53 PM
cant afford 2 carbs..i just needed the choke..but thanx for the offer


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: KB on September 25, 2007, 09:26:09 PM
Nevermind...Ill sell you both carbs with tors removal for cheap tho...Perfect choke and cleaner than a whistle.PM me if you want it

A lot has to due w/ carbs.
Your carbs need  tuned IMO.

Sounds like you got good compresion, get rid of the TORS, www.vitos.com has a removal kit for cheap, I seen some banshees run pretty good w/ stock carbs jetted & needled correctly.

Once it's dialed in, you shouldnt have any probs. mine has never let me down, my Banshee's (3 of them) starts at least by 4-5th kick when cold, & usually first or second kick when warmed up.

You gotta get it tuned correctly, even if you have to take it to a shop, preferably a shop that runs/owns a Banshee.

If you register to www.bansheehq.com I bet some guys will help you out.

you need to know what jets & clip position your carbs are in though, & get rid of the T.O.R.S. , thats the first thing people do to a lot of Banshees


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 09:37:26 PM
ya i'm on bansheehq..and i discovered all is fine with the bike..just the choke is trashed..i cheked that line between the 2 carbs and its fine..my choke can basically be pulled all the way out..and when it starts after 100 kicks..the choke makes no difference in idel..normally when the choke is turned off the idle slows down..my choke is dead..it does not function at all..i am trying to start a 2 stroke with no choke..cold..it is almost impossible..i just need a new choke or the o ring for it


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: cutngrs on September 25, 2007, 10:37:13 PM
the best thing you you can do is find someone that some what close to where you live that can go though your carbs and tune it no offence but it dose not sound like you know that much about carbs


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 10:44:07 PM
none taken..i just know that the bike runs super nice...its only about starting..i think if i had carb problems..i wouldnt have been able to ride 3 hrs straight on saturday with not a single bogging problem..or no respone..or no power..etc....but thanx anyway


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: cutngrs on September 25, 2007, 10:48:32 PM
well  i have 4 or 5 pairs of stock carbs if you want them you can have them they are all in great shape  let me know


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 10:51:04 PM
do you have an extra choke assembly?..i'm in broward


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: cutngrs on September 25, 2007, 11:01:47 PM
they are all compleat carbs   


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 25, 2007, 11:20:19 PM
how much for one left carb?


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: KB on September 26, 2007, 08:26:44 AM
Wake, He'll reply back, I bought a Banshe from him last year, he builds some bad Banshees, fastest one in the state I think.
Super cool dude, can learn a lot from him, bring a note pad.

I don't know anything about shhee's compared to this dude, except to ride them.


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: ATV Stunner #18 on September 26, 2007, 08:50:59 AM
You choke went bad? Oh no, it's toast. Time for a triple cylinder motor, lol.


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 12:22:22 PM
KB,sounds good man..thanx for all the help

atvstunner...o...k....lets get post number 4 on here!


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: ATV Stunner #18 on September 26, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
Ok  ;D


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: KB on September 26, 2007, 12:34:48 PM
none taken..i just know that the bike runs super nice...its only about starting..i think if i had carb problems..i wouldnt have been able to ride 3 hrs straight on saturday with not a single bogging problem..or no respone..or no power..etc....but thanx anyway

I'm still thinin TORS, do a search on www.bansheehq.com, type in T.O.R.S. & see what comes up, you'll get it figured out, we all been there.


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 04:28:04 PM
i'll chek it out..and all i have to do is unhook it?


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 04:39:58 PM
ok..this is wack..last night i took the choke assembly out to inspect o rings..everything looked fine..i fooled with it a while and then put it back in ..just now i went out and started the banshee in 1 kick..cold..choke on no gas..i didnt unhook tors or anything else..do you think my choke may have been put in wrong somehow..or it wasnt all together util i put it back in last night?


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: KB on September 26, 2007, 04:58:20 PM
Sounds to me like you at least got it narrowed down to your carbs.

I would get a book if you haven't already, most dealers have them in stock, call around till you find one,
take them apart one at a time so nothin gets mixed up, get a couple cans of carb cleaner from advance, make sure the cans have the little red spray nozzle spray all the carb parts, all the jets, everything real good, it only takes 1 piece of dirt inside there to cause a problem.

My TORS is disconnected at the plugs that go into them at top of carbs(1 plug for each carb) disconect both plugs & wrap them in a knot to keep outa the way, I think thats all you have to diconect, try it, if it starts then thats all you have to diconect if it don't start then you might have to diconect at the little black box, but I don't think so,

go back to ww.bansheehq.com & type in TORS removal & will tell you better than me.

TORS are known for giving banshees a lot of problems.

Clean your carbs on a clean bench, use some little plastic containers so you don't loose anything, if you have an air compressor, bow out the jets, make sure you can see thru the little holes real good.

I'm in Tampa, don't know where you are, if your close i could help.

You mighta fixed it by just messin w/ the choke.


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 05:56:23 PM
im in broward so ya..but i hope i fixed it by screwing with the choke..i just think that if the carbs were deffinately needing cleaning then my bike wouldnt even run right..but it ran great the other day for about 3 hrs..not one lagg or sputter..so maybe i fixed it with the choke..i'm going to keep trying to start it cold and see if it works..


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: snowmanzz13 on September 26, 2007, 06:12:28 PM
it might have not seated right or something an is like sucking in air or something, just keep trying to start it every once in awhile when it's cold, try an kick it w/o the choke on and then try w/ choke to see if it starts right up, if so then your choke works good


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 06:13:24 PM
ya exactly what i plan to do..i'm really hoping i got it right this time


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
ok..now i'm 99.9% sure i fixed it..it just started up again on the 1st kick cold..no gas..with choke on..when it started i shut the choke off and the motor died..before it had no effect on the idle speed..i know its working now..i think it wuznt set in the carb right..i hope this is it


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: KB on September 26, 2007, 06:39:30 PM
Sounds like you fixed it.


Title: Re: FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM WITH MY BANSHEEE!!
Post by: bigwake on September 26, 2007, 06:44:14 PM
i hope i fixed it..ha