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got the frame and a arms back from powder coat today, little lighter than the honda red i think but it looks good. not in a rush on this project, every thing will be going back on slowly and taking my time to build it how i want it, ill post up my progress. motor is a 330 non-pv with trx5 pipe. not sure on carb yet

those are burgard +3+1 a arms and axxis triple rate shocks w/rezzies

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Nice. Some day Im gonna start my own 250r build,,, before they're their too hard too find
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finnaly... more 250R people!! keep up the good work! if you need anything holler at me... i got the 250R situation down patt!! ;)

Are you staying with the stock swingarm?

i have no idea what im doing for a swingarm. i didnt get the one i have powder coated. that would look like crap with red frame, black a arms, and then old silver swinger. its the stock '86 steel swinger. i dont know if the +4 axle i have will work with an aftermarket swinger. and i dont know if i want a longer arm, the motor will have somewhere in the 50's for hp and its a light bike, i might need it but i also like to ride wheelies so idk yet. plus i plan to spray this motor. most likely im going to leave it alone and then once i ride it ill see what i want

do you still lose parts and say oh well sorry  :o

You sure do like Orange gatorade.  Looking good...JohnF...

that is actually a variety pack of the Gatorade AM series. flavors come in Orange-Strawberry, Tropical-Mango, and Cran-Rasberry

they are excellent

I bet the Cran Raspberry is Crantastic.

He does that on purpose, he knows what he's doin, less parts= less weight= put you in the front.

me and my cranmother have crantasys about it

Crant we just get along?

I wish I could have a bike that slow just kidding john looks good we'll race when you get it together

  It looks nice. I've never ridden one of those, but I hear a lot of bad azz things about them. I wanted to do the same thing with a Blaster. Maybe I'll look into getting one one day.
  I don't think they'll ever be hard to find. Something that awesome will always be around.

why thank you for the compliment chaz, it shall be a glorious race


Hey Derek330 - looks like you got a 330 too, what size swinger do you think Id want for my bike? just trail riding and messing around, i like to ride wheelies but also want to be able to keep the front end down if im racing somebody. Ive only rode this bike for about 5min since ive had it and it was running like crap with no power, so i dont know what i want. thinking maybe stock length or +2, maybe more idk

i was thinking about having this guy build me one.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43974&viewitem=&item=200151796746&_trksid=p3907.m29

john,
      first off, the 88-89 swinger is an inch shorter than the 86-87 swinger.  i ran a -1" 88' arm on my 330 i trail rode. so that would be an -2" for you (87').i would NEVER go longer than stock length unless you are hardcore drag racing!  even with a stock length 87' arm if will be spin happy in the trails and wont hookup very well coming out of corners!  if i were you i would try the stock arm once you get it running right and see what ya think. i hate it!! i would have at least a -1" 87' arm.... we run a -3" 88' arm (-4" 87') on the flattrack with our 350 PV and have no problems once we get moving. its a little tricky off the line but once moving it HOOKS LIKE HELL!! and if your spinin' you aint winnin'....
also, YOU DONT WANT A ROUND TUBE SWINGARM UNLESS YOU ARE DRAGING! they have lots of flex when cornering and makes for a "loose" handling bike which is not a good thing! any 250R axle will work with any swingarm as long as you use a 250R carrier.hope this helps! if you need ANYTHING for your bike are need some GOOD work/mods done let me know.. i am your man!! 8) just ask the flattrack people!! they know whats up..!! ;D  I got the fastest 2 strokes around! :P and 10 years+ racing experience..

yeah i figured it will spin like crazy with a longer arm, plus less turning radius. i think im gunna ride the stock one for awhile and see how i like it. i think the round tube looks really sick, but yeah i guess not great for trails. the ladder bar design is more money too.

i need to have the case mod done for the pro-x, what is your opinion on not splitting the cases to do this? ive herd mixed results. people on r-central say no way, then people on planetsand say yes way. i can get the case mod done and have my cylinder ported for $350 without splitting the cases. with splitting the cases its gunna be like $450+

me personnaly, i split the cases to machine them. reason being its too hard to keep all the metal out of the bottomend and even if you flush it before reassembly there is still GOT to be some left in there which can ONLY lead to bearing failure!  its pretty much a cut corner and for some people it works.
so who is porting your cylider? you aught to send it to me and let me hook you up! i gurantee you wouldnt be dissapointed! $350 for porting $250 to disassemble engine and machine cases + gaskets!  you know someone that will do it for $100? i would be afraid of that! LOL 8)

Planet Sand member: SandTrix will be doing the porting

he is very well known and have herd lots of good things, better than some of the big names like ESR, CT, etc

how much for gaskets? like $30? ill find out how much sandtrix wants just for porting than maybe have you do the case mod

Sweet! Love to see 250R rebuilds. If you have any needs for some parts and stuff, let me know. I have 3-4 parts bikes and hundreds of 250R parts. Also, if you are interested, I have a 380PV ESR motor that Im seriously thinking of selling. Super seriously fast.

Derek is right about the swinger. Just get a 88' or 89' moldel swinger. I might have a couple laying around if you need one. I also have a -2 86' swinger if you need one. There are only a handful of people on this site that can really tell you all the ins and outs of a 250R and how to get serious power out of one without compromising engine reliability. Derek is good. Im good. A few others. Just ask and we will be more than happy to help you get the greatest quad ever manufactured, back together!!!!!! ;)

yeah i might be interested in that 380 motor, not right now though im just getting my little 330 together. i just want to get the whole bike back together and running. im also gunna be spraying this motor, if it blows up, it blows up. then i can focus on a big build like yours and not have to worry about getting the rest of the bike together

i acctually just put the stock swinger back on tonight. its powder coated silver and i cleaned it up real good, but nothing else on the bike is gunna be silver so thats kind of stupid. ill see how i like the length and then get a different one and powder coat it black. its the stock '86 so its steel, real heavy

im sure ill need some parts soon, ill let you know. thanks for the help man, good seeing other people with R's

Looking Good!
My 330 had an LSR 86-1" and hooked good. Now Southern pools is running it and Derek can tell you more on how its hooking. lol
Keep us updated with the build.

should be done by next week, just working on some little stuff right now. seat cover isnt tightened up yet. ill probably get some pics of the motor tommorow, cases are powder coated and the covers and cylinder are polished. not too happy with the polish job though, not as shiny as i wanted it

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Hood Scoop! I heard those motors run hot.

Very nice, Are you gonna get new rear plastics?

Damn that's sick, I couldn't be anymore jealous!

  Very nice. I hope to do the same thing to my Blaster. I was going to go with the red frame also. It was either that, or white.

thanks guys, heres some pics of the motor. the guy that polished it did a half ass job, lots of spots he missed, none of the nooks and crannys, and altogether its not that shiny. i think the pics would look better if i didnt have so much crap in the background. and im not sure if im gunna get rear plastics yet, i dont really need them. ill see how it looks when i get the seat back tommorow from the upholestry shop. id rather not spend the $200 or so it costs for rears. i think it would look like a drag bike without them, but then again it will probably just look silly because the rest of the bike is setup for MX, even though i dont race

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 It looks OK, but I would have it polished again. Get plastics too...you don't want it to look incomplete!! It is one nice lookin ride.Almost like you can't get it dirty when you finish!!

 Break out the Dremmel and be patient!!

I'd say get rear plastics.

But all and all it looks g00d!

yeah i probably will in a little while, think im gunna chill out on the spending untill i get it running, hopefully im gunna be able to start it on thursday. heres some better pics after i got the seat cover on...


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Wow, very nice build. I would leave the rear plastics off. Skinny, low, and wide is the best way to go. Both for looks and performance. Besides, not many people ride them like that anyways. Plus, if you ever decide to sell it, you can just buy plastics for the rear and they will be brand new with no scratches from the trails. Might bring up the value a bit.

Good luck starting it. Post up a sound clip for us!

I am in love with this thing. I think it would look fine without rear plastics if you had paddles all the way around, then it'd look like a true duner, but with the mxr6's I think you need the rear plastics, just looks kinda goofy. But if it rides fine, and you don't get pelted with debris, then go for it. It's your bike brudda.

yeah i know the bike looks like a duner but the tires makes it look silly because this is florida. but ive ridden with no plastics before and they dont really do much for blocking debris. i like it

soooo anyway about 5min ago i started it for the first time. i didnt mix any gas up so i just sprayed a little ether in the carb, i didnt want to run it long because there wasnt any radiator fluid in there plus the jetting is wayyyy off. so it only ran for a second or so on the ether. i did that a few times and it sounds awsome. so now its off to ATP to get tuned next week. i took a video off my phone. later!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-FMMYygpnM

Dang man, Sweet build you got goin...thats one bad@$$ bike  8)

i drove it down my street today and it blew up. the crank is frozen, the cases are damaged, and the bottom of the sleeve cracked off.

if anyone has a 250r motor for sale let me know. preferably one with a good bottom end and moded for pro-x cylinder

are you serious??? that sucks! how'd it happen?

did you forget to mix gas or something?

Sound to me like you dropped a bolt in the Cylinder and forgot about it. Happens all the time.

picture of the case damage. i put the motor together perfectly, the reason it broke was because i drove it when i shouldnt have. it wasnt broken in yet and the jetting was wayyy lean. i just wanted to drive it to check for any problems before i took it to ATP to get tuned and broken in properly on their dyno.

right now im working on getting the cylinder resleeved and i have a couple leads on a good bottom end. hopefully it will be back together soon, but this was quite the expensive little mistake i made.

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wow Dude , sorry to see that....seriously


Got a Pressure Washer for sale? ;D

acctually i do have a pressure washer you can buy. its a real nice one too...but it doesnt work. its a briggs 6.5hp, runs perfect, very little use but it wont pressurize that water. it runs and the water comes out but no pressure

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Tonight:   :drink.gif :box.gif  boho

By the way, it blew up because you didn't put you reeds in.

 :o

off my crappy camera phone, the 1st one was really good but my buddy didnt start recording untill it was just about over. the one at the end is pretty badass

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that last one was sick

Nice lookin bike, son.  I rebuilt an '88 back when I was about 14.  It turned out pretty good but wasn't as involved as yours.  I'll see if I can scan my dinosaur 4x6 pics and post em up.  Have any desire to go out west and try it on the dunes?  I am trying to plan a trip one of these days.  Pizzle my nizzle.

Funny you mention that because I'm planning on moving out west in less than 2 yrs.  I can't imagine living somewhere with that kind of riding all the time.  Can't wait.

O dang. You crazy kid. Maniac on 4 wheels. The asphalt rapist.

John, I will move out west with you. But only if the place has mud, rocks, sand, and a mud/rock/sand place nearby.

I'd probably like to do it in about 5 years. Mabey less, not sure. PSL pays alot for their firefighting but if "out west" pays the same, I'd move in a heartbeat. I'd go a little more south of Oregon. You dont wat to drive 6 hours to get to the trails each time.

I'm gonna be full-time RV with a big toy hauler so I'll be traveling all over.  I'll probably be down south around Glamis mostly.  I'm guessing diesel will be close to $5/gallon by then so I may have to keep it parked for long periods.  We'll see.  Would be nice to have some contacts close by, though.

Dunno, I'll figure out something.  Expenses will be pretty cheap.  Might try some whoring.

I'm planning a 2 week Glamis trip for the day after Christmas.  It will be a feeler to see if I want to do it for good...but I think we already know the answer to that.  I just got my new paddle today, it looks sick! 

damn thats a long drive, sure would be fun though

whats the bike you keep to ride? 450 right?

Yah, I gots a couple of 450s.  My girl is takin her 230.  I'm gonna paddle up a little 80 to take along also...should be fun.  I'll send some pics when I get everything ready to go.  Funny what a big deal it is for us eastcoasters to make a dune trip but it's just like going to the beach for the guys out there.

I too am one day going to head out west and explore Glamis, Pismo, and Winchester Bay. Those places just look intoxicating! 8)