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I'm looking at a 2003 Ford F350 4x4 Crew Cab Super Duty with a 6.0l with 99,370 miles on it . It will be my 1st diesel . I have heard ALOT of bad things about this motor. Is it really that bad ? Surely there are some 6.0's with NO problems  right ? I want this truck ....its loaded with everything known to man for $20,990.....I will be going to look at it this evening .I don't know alot about diesels so some advice on what to look for would be great ! I'm sure if I get it , I will be asking lots of questions  !

Well I have an 03 F350 Dually with 95,000 miles with no problems it runs great . You need to go to ford and asked for an oasis report on it before you buy it that will tell what maintenance issue it has had.  ;D

Also, if you are interested in that Bully Dog in the for sale section (saw your post), better invest in some head studs as well as other mods $$$$$$$$$. ??? 03-04 were the worst years for the 6.0s, but I would imagine that if the truck wasn't tuned and was well cared for, it would be a great truck for a long time.

I love my truck! I wasn't sure about going diesel, but now I am glad I did.

I have an 03 6.0L... I love the truck!! The engine had NO problems until 74K miles. Then it had a lil problem, well big problem and the engine was replaced under warranty. Before you buy, take it to a Ford Dealer and have them look it over, may cost a lil $$ but will be worth it. If they find something wrong they may be able to get it under warranty that expires at 100K miles. goto www.powerstroke.org and become a premium member. Then you can post the vin in the private section and they will give you the oasis reports and the whole website is VERY helpful. I wont anything other than a diesel now that I have had one.

I promote this post.  If you are going to get a tuner, give DP Tuner a shot.  They do custom tunes to what you want.  www.dp-tuner.com.  Jody Tipton is highly recommended and one of the best in the business.  He only does Ford tuning, so he knows his stuff.

I would have to say stay far away from a tuner most of the problems are because of tuners , instead I would put a good boost, egt and tranny temp guage in it. Also do maintenance which includes the fuelfilters at regular intervals 15,000 mi. Use quality diesel fuel and diesel klean I use a half a bottle every tank I don't know if it helps but I feel better I've been doing it since it was new. Last I would use it for what its for, make the engine work so it doesn't build up carbon. As for the early 6.0's they had injector problems the 04-06 had a lot of head gasket issues who knows how many were caused by failure or helped by tuners.  ;D

 I can get a 2003 F350 Super Cab 4x4 Dually Lariare Gold with Black on the Bottom 7.3 Powerstroke for 19900.00 95000 miles

Thats a purty truck !

About as bad as a red-headded step child!!!

Try and find a 7.3.  Might be a bit more $$$ but will be worth it.  Mine 7.3 has 175K miles on it and still going strong,  Only problems were a water pump, and Front wheel bearings.  Still running strong!!!!

 read my post Carl ;)

I had a 7.3 with the dp tuner it was great.  Then I bought a 2006 F250 (6.0) King Ranch.  It is just as fast stock as the 7.3 was with the tuner.  Any how if you are going to buy the truck run an oasis report on it.  You can go to thedieselgarage.com (http://thedieselgarage.com) or thedieselstop.com (http://thedieselstop.com) or powerstroke.org   (http://powerstroke.org)

One of the sites will run an oasis report for you for free.  The report shows ALL work done to the truck under warranty or at a Ford dealer.  You must run this prior to buying.  It is a great piece of mind to have.

As far as tuners go FIRST buy gauges then buy exhaust then you can get a tuner.  On the 6.0 the best tuner (from what everyone says) is a SCT tuner.  There are a few shops that do custom downloads for it and they email the tune to you.  One vendor that every one talks about is located in Ocala and has unlimited tunes for like $150.00.

I have a 2005 F350 4x4 Crew Cab 6.0 and love it. I pull quite heavy with it regularly (33' Condenter on tri-axle Load Master to and from the Keys and a 25' 7 ton gooseneck with my buggy back and forth to the Everglades) not to mention smaller four wheeler enclosed trailers. I've had zero porblems with it. Chillinthe most has the exact same truck but his is a 6 speed manual while I have the auto. He loves his too. We've both discussed tuners and decided niether of us will buy one. The trucks really don't need them. They pull anything we want them too more than fast enough and get decent mileage all the way.

I've owned a 6.9 Ford (420k miles when sold) a 7.3 Ford (270k miles when sold) and a 7.3 Powerstroke Ford (210k miles when sold). All of them worked great with no complaints.

i drive a 2003 f 350 crew cab 4x4 every day at work pulling a 16' box trailer almost 140 miles round trip and it has yet to leave me stranded its got 84k on it and its just like new,and the sad part is i'm a chevy man LONG LIVE MY Z-71

oh yeah,get the oil changed regularly

I have almost the same truck in an 05 with 43000 miles and 35's for 28900.00

my 03 with a 6.0 has 1,75000 on it with a tunner and have no problems with the motor  at all  ;D

duramax is the best diesel, im sure the 6.0 is a decent moter, but it aint no duramax. i guese if its a realy good deal.

We have Duramax crew cab 4x4's also.

i guese you ford diesel guys have to stay away from chips lol. and you cant get good deasel any more ultra low sulfer diesel sucks, iv heard of people add 2 stroke to it, or automatic trans fluid since ultra low sulfer is bad on injecters

Never knew the cab of these trucks needed to be taken off the frame to work on the engine.
http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,24181.175.html

Don't be fooled the duramax also have there share of injector problems and head gaskets, your right its no duramax its a ford complete with straight axles still with no worries about cv axles  ;D

I have both a 7.3L power stroke with 147,000 on it I have had normal things like 1 water pump 1 fuel lift pump 1 transmission rebuild I still drive this truck I bought a 2005 F250 4x4 crew cab in jan with the 6.0 in it and  I must say it has not had any trouble yet I took it on a two week road trip up north and pulled a 24' boat and it pulled better then my 7.3 I love both truck's and would never sell eather one and the funny thing is I work for chrysler and have for 17 years as a tech and had a cummins truck and hated it traded it in on my 97 powerstroke and never looked back but this debate could go on all night if you like the truck buy it it is a good idea to take it to your mechanic or local ford dealer and have them look it over for any trouble run a car fax report on it

the 01s had injecter problems and they solved that by giving you a 200,000 mile warenty on the injectors wether the moters chiped or not. and if solid axles makes you feel beter that ford has less hp and torqe than any comparable chevy, diesel or gas...  and fords new twin turbo is a joke, not true twins and 1 is smaller. just a sales gimik, the only reason they added the twin turbo was to meet emisions.

 200,000 mile warenty on the injectors wether the moters chiped or not.[/quote]

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i was gunna saysomthing  to this post but a duramax is not worth my time :o

Yep, and all of this technology about how GREAT chevy`s are is coming from a 16 year old !!! HMMMMMMMM Not much experience there IMO.
The chevy`s definatly have had their share of probs also, I know of three peaple in MI that bought them new ( when they first came out) 1 of which has had three of the "awsome" Allison trannies replaced, after leaving them stranded on the road.
And the other 2 have had the motors replaced due to the valves shattering like glass.

They all have their own issues, Thats a FACT, and all are good vehicles to get you where you want to go.
 But I will always stick with my 7.3 4x4 to get me there

yea im stupid because im 16, how much experience have you had with a duramax?... liking ford beter is a valid opinion, but sayin alisons are bad tranys is just plain ignorence... if you put a chip more than 120 horse extra the trany will go into limp mode, or break. in stock trim an alison is good for 120hp more than stock. ppe make chips for up to 350 extra flywheel hp but reaquired a built trany(look it up if you dont belive me).
efi live and a lift pump can probably make more than 350 extra horspower...

and you have a 7.3, wich is a beter moter than the new powerjokes


ignorent


General Motors has extended the Duramax 6600 fuel injector warranty coverage for owners of all 2001, 2002 & 2003 model-year Chevrolet and GMC Duramax 6600 equipped pickup trucks and 2003 medium-duty trucks. Issued 10/10/2006

look up GM Document ID#1866141 for proof that gm has extended the injector warenty to 200,000 miles, if you owne one you should have goten a leter from gm about a year ago

I NEVER said you were ignorant ( unlike yourself, calling names) BUT, you are showing who really is with your posts, and name throwing.
My statement was being 16, you couldnt possibly have the experience to make BOLD statements like that. But listening in on the adults conversations ,makes you an expert I see.

I said what my experience with the duracraps were, These are close friends of mine who have had SERIOUS problems, and just for your info, I NEVER claimed them to be "chipped", ( you assumed), However , they have NOT been " chipped".

 You know, my dad always had a saying that I now understand with age. " quick get out on your own while you still know everything".
  Kinda fits here quit well I think.

i am far from knowing evrything but that dosent meen i dont know anything. and my dad and my brother both own duramaxes... how many duramaxes have you owned? sounds like u just heer stories from you buddies. and listening in on adult conversations has not made me an expert, i like to stay edjucated about the things im into. you just think your ford the best because you own it if you had a cummins it would be the best, you sound like you dont know a whole lot about diesels and you are just defending your truck. i think the 7.3 was a much beter engine than chevys 6.5 diesel back in the day, but right now ford has the wors diesel but thats just my opinion

Ha, your funny.
 I dont have to defend my 7.3, I own two of them one since 98`. My father also owns one and has since before the turbo in 91.
 I am NOT just repeating GOSSIP, Why would I ?? these are lifelong friends of mine who had there trucks in the shop for several weeks waitng to get fixed.
 In fact a close friend of mine here in florida has one, Nice truck too, He says he loves it.
 But sounds to me like your the one defending the Duracrap only due to your dad and brother owning one.

 Now, Me owning my first 7.3 since 98`, I am NOT new to the diesel scene, which probably says more than you can, seeing how you were what 6 yrs old at that time.

 You repeatedly have tried to put words in my mouth by assuming these chevy trucks I spoke of were chipped, that I others who disagreed with you were ignorant.
I never said or made the claim that the powerstrokes were the best out there, again you made the assumption that I felt that way. The 7.3`s are, some of the 6.0`s arent and some are great.
 But you know, once I looked at your profile, That explained it to me. Which is why I posted about the saying my dad always said.

For Sale section for a 4x4 Crew Cab 7.3.....VERY NICE check it out.

Dang good price too!!!!! That wont last long.
 Maybe I should trade in my 30` with 35k miles 4x4 for the leather and lift ?!?!

  Yea the truck is really in great shape but I think I am going to Order new 38" Parnelli Jones Dirt Grips for it.  The truck runs great and has tons of power. The price also includes new Tires. ;)

now calling me ignorent is just plane stupid   now look what you did  you done got me started on this topic that we all knew was going to get ugly first off  opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one   now  i have said it befor on this site and no one has taken me up yet me and my little 6.0 have not ever been out run or out pulled by a chevy or a dodge  now if any one wants to find out just how slow there chevy or dodge realy is just let me know   :o

Your right kawasaki racer he doesn't know what he's talkin about, he don't know nothin about Banshee's either & there just a simple 2 stroke LOL.

J/K

kawasaki racer, I'm not trying to start anything, but Don & his brother Troy are prob. 2 of the nicest guy's here.(not sayin your not )
They know there sh!t

 (I gotta stand up for my Michigan Boy's)

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im sory, but it REALY seems like u just dont know alot about diesels and is mad because i said something bad about ford so u tere me up because your a ford fan and use the fact that im 16 to explain why my opinion is useless and rong. i stand by the fact that cummins and duramax are a superior engine to the powerstroke rite now.

i dont think im smarter than you or anything but it seems like you just pissed because my opinion isnt the same as yours.

yea your all real nice untill i have a difrent opinion, then im just the stupid 16 year old...

you shouldn't let people get to you like that, remember its just the internet, I don't think anybody really thinks that your stupid.

the ford chevy argument will never end will it. flowmasters beter than magniflow, anyone wana start that argument? lol

no, because that is not an argument. Straight Pipes are the best.

as far as Powerstroke, Duramax, Cummins...... Well to be honest, they all suck. But they are the only 3 available in everyday trucks right now.

kawasaki racer, I'm not trying to start anything, but Don & his brother Troy are prob. 2 of the nicest guy's here.(not sayin your not )
They know there sh!t

 (I gotta stand up for my Michigan Boy's)
[/quote] I should have known Don was from Michigan after he was talking about Houghton Lake and Polaris sleds. It made me a little homesick.

I have a 20 ton tow strap to hook up to this truck if anyone wants to get hooked up on the other end of it.  then bring your bad@$$ fastest 4 wheeler and we can drag race them too.  Cause I am sure someone out there thinks their 4 stroke will out run Cut's banshee anyday of the week.  Put ya $$$ where ya mouth is.  Oh and I am 27, so my statments have merit.

My folks moved here in 76, i was born in 74, lived in Dearborn, my aunt Dean & Uncle George Miller owned a bar (I never been too) called Millers Bar there supossedly famous for there Burgers, I got on there website & people from all over the world have rated there burger's as #1.
My last Granparent left, (my Dad's mom, use to work at Lincoln Park recreation Ctr. they had an indoor pool) ,still lives there in a little town called Brooklyn on Lk. Columbia, it was just there weekend getaway from Detroit & moved there full time after retiring, it's in the Irish Hill's, also where M.I.S. is(Michigan International Speedway).
My Uncle works at the Tecumseh Engine Plant, he sets up an ice shanty on the lake every winter & thats were you'll find him, some people leave there R.V.s parked on the lake all winter long as there fish camp/party place.

Yfz, yeah , me too !!! I Kinda miss it.


Kaw400, NO, You WRONG entirely here, and off the point.
 I could care less what your opinion is on which truck is best, Its your attitude, and slinging names is what pissed me off. Anyone of us would have let it go with "thats your opinion" on the topic, BUT, when you start calling names like " IGNORANT" to an ELDER , you are showing who really is ignorant.
 Back in the day, when I was your age. If you would have said that to me, you would definitely had a tooth sandwich. I didnt put up with remarks like that at all, didnt matter who you were. Now, I just let whoever carry on to show their true colors. I understand your 16 and know more right now than any of us EVER will.
 I have stated time and time again in my posts, that they are all good trucks, I like mine, you like your dads/ bros or whatever.
 GIVE it a REST youngster

thats right Don,
 nobody's bashing the kid, I always said if some could print it out & read it in 10 more yrs. maybe they would understand, I'm sure I said some pretty dumd thing when I was 16 & I'm lucky to be here today(we all are), but some of us are older & grown now & think differently now, youll get it to racer kid in about 20 yrs., it seems like a long time but it'll be there quick.Be prepared.
Nobody's saying your bad, but you should just let it go, lifes too short to sweat the small sh!t, go out, have some fun while you still can & stop all this racket.

FWIW, there is a kiddy section here if you care to check it out.

not tryin to start anything, but its comments like that that get on peoples nerves.

If the shoe fits my friend ...............................

hell ya, i have a yellow '74 Pinto w/a 2.3L SOHC, I-4.

I'll hook it up, but the cash has to be shown up front, no free rides, ya now what I mean.
 I don't play none of that funny stuff.

Let me make one very good valid point.  UNTIL YOU OWN A TRUCK AND PAY THE MAINTENANCE ON IT AND DRIVE IT EVERYDAY, you really don't have a justifiable opinion.  My daddies truck, my uncles truck, my sister's truck, etc. does not merit you to a justifiable opinion on whether the truck is good or not.  Anyone can go onto several different diesel forums and get all the information they need on diesels and make a valued assumption on what truck is going to best fit their needs.  It's kind of like me test riding a yfz450, and then coming on here and telling everyone how great they are, etc.  I can tell you all about a banshee, a grizzly, a 2003 7.3 powerstroke, 99 ford mustang, etc. because I have owned, operated, maintained, done my own work on all those vehicles.  Half the freaking threads around here get mudded up from people opinion on something instead of their interactive history on something.  I don't care if your 16 or 61, your opinion means nothing to me, because you don't own a diesel, or if you have you haven't owned it for long. 

because you don't pay for it, you don't drive it everyday, that makes it unjustifiable.  I own a ford now, but my next truck will most likely be a dodge cummins.  I like that truck better than a ford, but I own what I could afford.

you dont drive a cummins around so its unjustifyable to say its beter than waht your driving now. see how that dosent realy aply? im done with this argument, iv deleted my last sevral posts. move on.

Are you f*&king kidding me?  what I want to do and buy is my opinion and I am not forcing that on anyone.  Heck, I am not sitting here saying ford is better, or dodge is better, I am just saying my next truck will probably be a dodge.  I have done my research and feel that i want to try a dodge out.  I am not sitting on this post saying dodge is better because.  You see what I am saying?  okay now I am going to say it, you are 16, when you get a little more mature and grown up you will understand what REASONABLE JUSTIFY means. 

It's kind of like this.  I work for a packaging facility.  If I want to reasonable justify why the company should purchase this machine, do you think I am going to go talk to supervisor's that oversee the machine or and I going to go talk to the mechanic and operator that operates the machine?  The supervisor doesn't sit there and operate the machine, or maintain the machine, he just supervises the process.  Is that anymore clear for you?  You don't own the truck, you watch your brother drive it, you might help him work on it, but from your post you have done much to it.

i feel that duramax is beter, as you feel that cummins is better. I mentioned i like duramax beter about 20 posts ago and all you guys have done is bashed me, all i did was defend myself, not tryed to force my opinion. i realy dont know how to explain myself any more, im so tired of this thread and all of you bashing me. just end it...

Funny you say that Jason, I was thinking the EXACT same thing. I was looking @ a new dodge in town ( looks REALLY nice) and considering trading my new one in at the end of the year for it...... Go figure

Sorry, BUT no-one "bashed " you about your opinion, you were trying to force your opinion on peaple that didnt agree, then started the name throwing......... Thats when the bashing started, But like I said, I understand, I was 16 once too.

agreed.  my point was if you don't own it, operate it, maintain it, your opinion is just that an opinion.  You have not reasonable justification to persuade a person to buy one or the other.  at the end of the day your buying a diesel which is a good thing IN MY OPINION.

yeah man, don't get me wrong, I love my 7.3, and it has been very reliable, minus the alternator and front wheel bearings, but I really really like the dodge cummins.  I don't do alot of heavy pulling and most of my driving is to and from work, I just need the truck for when I need to haul cattle, lumber, travel trailer, 4-wheelers, etc.  Put an air intake, exhaust, GAUGES, and tuner and hope to get some really good gas mileage.  Momma is getting her Toyota Seqouia before I get my Dodge Cummins though, so it will be a few years.

that cummins motor might be sitting in a ford truck by then. my uncle just told me that he thinks ford bought out cummins. he has worked for ford for close to thirty years. i hope it is not just a rumor.

lol every post you guys have made has some 16 year old put down in it.

I own a duramax and I only buy the best, nuff said!!!!!!! ;D

Thats right enough said, who's going to the MotoPlex the weekend of the 24th.?

you have got to be kiding me, you cant just let it go without trowing in the whole im 16 thing. just beacause im 16 dosent meen i think im smarter than all you, im not i just dont agree with you opinion. now please let it go!

I agree, LET IT GO!



















By the way, You're only 16 so what do you know?


LMAO. sorry dude, I had to.

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lol

 :) yes i climb the 110 ft tower in my back yard lol

 :) 110 octane in the tanks for my yfz BTW is the BEST atv ever made LMAO !

Thats my new ride !! I love it !  8) 2001 f250 4x4 7.3 turbo diesel

not all of mine. 

Nor mine !!


Wicked, Nice truck , congrats man !!!! Best truck EVER LMAO ;)

   DONT LOOK AT ME I NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT A 16 YEAR OLD  :o HE SAID I WAS INGORNENT  AND  HURT MY FEELINGS :'( 


























LOL :R :R :L 2:L

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT  HE CAN JUST KISS MY  :M :o

1977 Chevy Luv, best truck ever. They had like 394 hp and 635.21ft. lbs. torque from the factory. They'd run 8.60's at 150mph + in the 1/4, got 28 mpg in town and 32 on the highway and had windsheild wipers. I had a buddy  that put chrome valve covers on his along with some neon lights under it and he picked up like 47 hp.

They were bad azz.

Hmmmmm. I thought it was 65hp with those mods...... OHHHH I bet he didn't use the Bowtie shaped wingnuts to bolt down the head covers.

You are killing me Matt....... Thats funny as h#ll , I dont care who you are!!! ;)

   Yea I put chrome valve stem covers on my GMC and it went from a 4x2 to a 4x4. You have to use the quality chrome valve stem cover though.

Don't even get me started on the Subaru Brat. Baddest truck ever. I've got one with a goose neck hitch in it. I use it to pull my tri-axle 42' double stack with living quarters from here to Sand Mountain and Glamis 2-3 times each year. I installed a K&N filter and a cell phone antenna and it made all the difference in the world. I can pull my trailer with all the goodies in it, plus three people up front and two in the jump seats at 75 mph and still get 18mph. Of course, that's pulling in over drive. Every now and then on really steep mountains I have to shift into 4th.

Now I have better reasons to visit this thread, because it is funny as heck. 

Yep, thats one BAD AZZ brat right there!!!!   I kinda like the fuzzie dice hanging from the mirror

truck looks great.  I have done the zoodad mod.  also the get the AFI Plug and take out the heater, restriction on the intake.  I bought my gauges, a-pillar, AFI plug, etc. from ITP Diesel.  Dennis was great to work with, got a great deal and shipped out quick.  I also used DP Tuner (Jody Tipton), dp-tuner.com.  You can check many websites, he is one of the best out there.  Also great to work with, tuner is freaking awesome, actually sent me an updated cable, because apparently they were having trouble with the ribbon cable he was using, free of charge, just showed up in the mail one day, that is what kind of guy he is.  Also installed a Tugger Transmission shift kit, from Transmission USA down in south florida.  When you are serious about buying the stuff, shot me a PM and I will get you all the contact information, if you can't find it.  I have had everything installed in my truck for over a year and 20,000 miles with no problems.  Pulls anything I want.  The only other thing I need to do is the ATS ported turbo housing to get rid of turbo stall, and lower EGT's when pulling a really heavy load.  That is 450 dollars and I don't want to spend the money right now, so I just regulate the throttle to eliminate both for now.  Good luck, and you will enjoy the truck.  Oh, keep a front wheel bearing insite or atleast $300, because they can go out anytime, and you won't get far without changing it.  I purchased mine from Ford for like $275 and changed them myself.  That is the only complaint I have about the truck.

Wicked, Nice truck , congrats man !!!! Best truck EVER LMAO ;)
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NICE TRUCK !!!!! Thats NOT a bad price....
Check with Smoke dog, his package is a nice set up with the gauges, and tranny mod..

I took in a 2001 Ford F350 4x4 extended cab XLT 7.3 powerstroke auto. 109,000 miles

     20588.00

Nice looking truck man. I love mine and I am sure you'll enjoy yours too.   ;)

my PERSONAL favorite is the 93 cummins
i like the old blocky body style, some dude in my neighborhood has one d350 long bed dually with stacks
one of the gnarliest trucks ive ever seen

Good looking truck, but can you post a better shot of what is on top of the tower? :)
Is that the bottom edge of a moonraker 4 I'm seeing?

the short tower up close is a old American tower with a TV antenna on top and an omni on bottom .....the taller tower is rohn 20 with wireless internet equipment on it ....if i show you I'll have to kill you lol top secrete stuff up there ! i receive and broadcast highspeed internet for a local wireless internet company

shhhhhhh!

  I have one ;)     2001 Ford F250 crew cab Lariat with lift and 37's Power Programer and exhaust with intake.  20588.00