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So this guy(lady) has been in the news for a long time now.  I was wondering what you guys thought of this guy(oops lady).  I mean this man actually paid to get his B@lls cut off!!!  Thats just freaking nuts!! LMAO...

A JOKE !!!!!! Shouldnt be allowed to be a pubilc representative

Never heard of him/her.

Crazy, really. That crap made the news in Broward. I feel sorry for Tampa, and agree with dynodon.

She made the cut for the top 6 of Sarasota's city manager

The SCBOCC votes on it today

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Ah but he/she paid to have female parts.  Now he can play w/ them forever.  Now he can go into any women's locker room and watch the shower scene w/o getting thrown out.  He/she can have all the female t & a for a lifetime.  In addition, as all you men often tell women...that women can get IT much easier than they can.  Now he/she has increased his/her odds of getting some?  Idiot or mastermind?  Think about it.

IT SHOULD BE SHOT

Seriously I commend her for going through all the public ridicule that most folks who have this type of surgery do NOT have to go through. I watched a 20/20 special on transgender children - I think everyone should have watched it. It really shed light on the situation and all that transgender people go through.

My stand on it is (1)To each his own & (2) I do not feel he should have been fired for it. His sexuality had no effect on how the job was being done prior to the public finding out.

Also the person who leaked his story at the time this all came about should be fired. It was discussed in a private manner and that person had no business calling the media prior to him making the announcement. That was out of personal revenge.

Theres my opinion.

Very well said lovinit!

Check out them hands. Gonna be lonely at the Stanton home, unless he gets Bigscrubs15's #. Hahaha




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I'm sorry, chopping off the family jewels will never seem right to me. I don't care who you are.
Personal revenge is what makes the world go round. LMAO. While things that happen in peoples homes should remain private, this is a public figure and this is just plain weird, and it didn't happen in his home. The whole situation makes Florida and Lagro look bad, not that it could look much worse anyway, but come on...This man is incurring rightful public ridicule.

All the hormones, knives and best wishes in the world will never change that simple fact IMO.




EDIT: Thought this gent had something to do with Tampa. Changed it to Largo.

but yall have got to admit homeboy had some balls to go out and do that being that he was a public figure and all, although he may not have his cahones anymore

YES, To each his or her own, BUT, NOW I say BUT, he is supposed to be an example, or figure head for the communities in which he/she  (IT) is involved in. I dont know about you but that just isnt right for a person in that profession to do.

 Thats like putting a pedafile in the classroom as a teachers aid.
 He/ She should have been TERMINATED, and not allowed back into the system period. Hows that gonna look when a trip to washington comes into play??? we are gonna look like Vermont with their cival union crap. Then everyone will definately take things seriosly from Fl.

Ok Don I'm a bit lost here.  Can you please explain how changing sexes and pedifiles are related?  He/She is still a person like everyone else.  He/She didn't feel like the outside matched the inside feelings.  Would it have been better to have lived life a lie?  Seems to me he/she is doomed either way.  Stay the same sex and be considered a liar, change sexes and take the ridicule of others that are scared.  IMO if he/she can do the job then sex or sex change shouldn't matter. 

Well, If he has lived his life this many years like he has, and now trying to make a change seems a bit unstable to me. Someone like that, heck who knows whats next?!?!?

 Now do you see my point ?

I am not sure I understand what you are saying there where I highlighted it.
He never dressed that way at work or during anything related to work. Not sure what the relevancy is there.

Not sure how she makes Tampa look bad either since she has nothing to do with Tampa? Let alone how she makes the state look bad. The state made themselves look bad when they fired some one based off sexuality vs job performance. Everyone that worked with Steve stated what a great job he did as city manager. So who made the state look bad other than the state?
 
The whole point I was making was that sexuality has nothing to do with how the job was being performed. Morally I do not agree with it but who am I to judge. Like I said the 20/20 episode on transgender people was very enlighting. Have you ever seen anything pertaining to a transgender 6yr old? Would it be sick if a 12yr old child wanted to do this after living all those years feeling they don't belong in their own body.

I guess I don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this. Seriously does her choice to become a woman affect any of you personally? NO it dosen't...I do not even feel bad for her former wife, she knew he felt this way for a long time.

I am not saying here that no one is entitled to an opinion either....



Dyno - I see where you are coming from, really I do. Comparison to a pedafile as a teachers aid in the classroom is a completely different situation. Genetic defect vs sexual predator.

I guess I see this all so differently than anyone else because in high school there was a transgender male that went from male to female. The things people did to her were so mean and horrible, I am suprised she never committed suicide. Students wanted her out of honors classes because she was different not because she wasn't smart. Same thing here - get rid of him because he is different not because he couldn't do the job.


I knew I should have stayed out of this thread

I will admit, my comparison may have been a little over board, but it was a point that I was trying to make is all.
 I do not feel that in any way should gender be a deciding factor in someones career. There are just as many well qualified women as there are men. That I will NOT disagree with.
 I just feel that he is supposed to be an " example" for all citizens in the public. What he has done is very unstable in my opion. Thats all this is, is each persons opinion.

 Heck, If this were thirty, or so years ago, He/She would have been burned at the cross like a witch.

I see what you're saying about being unstable.  I'm not sure that his/her decision makes her unstable.  On the contrary I think making such a decision, especially in as high profile position as he/she is in.  I'd say that a major change like that, one that would be scene by the majority of the public as radical, makes him/her more stable in who they are inside.

I can't say that I agree w/ the change but I also can't say that it's my choice to tell someone what they should and shouldn't do for themselves.  He/She and his/her decision to change gender does not affect my life directly.  However, that change does affect their life directly and will allow them to live in peace w/ who they really feel like they are.  But in addition to this change he/she is having to deal w/ alot of ppl poking fun, making jokes, trying to ruin a career.

Like lovinit said about the person in her HS making fun of the student.  That was just w/in a small HS.  I can't even imagine what Stanton is going through having the whole country know.  Even worse all of the work that Stanton has spent his life working to achieve is being ridiculed and ppl are trying to toss a lifetime of achievement down the drain.

And maybe because this wouldn't have been accepted as easily 30 yrs ago is why it wasn't done then.  Also, 30 yrs ago it would have been difficult for a woman to advance as far politically.  Could be that he/she was biding his/her time until it would be more readily accepted.

Not sure about a lot of things.  I can't imagine changing sexes.  What I do know is that Steve Stanton has be thought of highly in the political realm.  And that Steve Stanton and Susan Stanton are mentally the same ppl as far as those business accomplishments.  I feel bad for him that he had to live his life as someone he wasn't to make the progress so he could actually live out his life the way he feels on the inside and finally be true to himself.

I'm going to ask one simple question. How would you folks feel if a crossdressng male was at the local park where your CHILDREN were playing?

Fine w/ me if a cross dresser were at the park w/ my kids, my cousins, or any other child that is close to my heart.  Cross dressers and gay ppl are not pedifiles.  What does that question have to do w/ Stanton having a public position?  Stanton is not a pedifile, nor is he a cross dresser anymore, he is transgendered and feels more like a woman.

Well, you are certainly rare. I got to see this first hand in rainbow central, Broward County with my daughter at the local park. People who are notoriously liberal had some of the nastiest things to say when a cross dressed male showed up, and everyone LEFT. Frankly, I was a little surprised.

I feel that anyone who could alter their body in this way can't be right in the head. Perhaps Y'alls lack of these items has clouded some views on this issue. I don't know.

Sometimes I feel like crap, I have never considered having an operation to physically change me into a pile of dung...I believe anyone who makes the conscious decision to undertake such a change is unsuitable for public office. Maybe I'm wrong and this gentleman will take office of president in 2008, and gas will go back to $1.00.

Make no mistake, this is a cross dressed man any way you look at it. He is no more a woman than an unlucky guy who gets his junk caught in a combine or Lorianna Bobbitt's ex husband, or if I smeared my self in feces and pretended I was a pile of cow poop. ;)

I think that dude is a nut job along with anyone else who wants to get a gender change. They can try as hard as they want but will never be able to completely be a different gender. GOD made you the way you are, so if you dont like, take it up with the big man. I will never think its right for them to do that crap, and wont ever accept it. They are a bunch of freaks. I agree with Largo for firing him. They hired a man to do the job, and half way through the man wants to be woman. Too bad for him, take that crap and go elsewhere. Also QT, you know as well as I do that if he gets that position in Sarasota all those old people will go nuts. His best bet would have been to resign, go get his bits and pieces removed then move somewhere that he was not known. I am sick of people saying we need to accept everyone for who they are. I dont have to accept anyone if I dont want to. Alright I am done. ;D

wow..some people..so ignorant!! ??? ??? ???.....I'll leave it at that.....

but i do think it would be very odd when i go into the bathroom unzip and start the process, and WTF!!! where did it go? o wait....thats right....i don't have one anymore ;D

but seriously...Steve Stanton was city manager for LARGO..absolutely nothing to do with Tampa..In his career he has accomplished many things for that city and his co*k status should not determine his ability to perform his job...he did great for twenty years, he felt all along that he was a woman, now he kind of is one? so i don't think his ability to perform(at the workplace :P) will change..he should have sued the city for discrimination, or wrongful termination..?it seems he would have had a case

and gays and transgenders being put in the same category as pedOphiles, is just retarded

and IT being a public figure and rolemodel and all......IT is sending the message...do what you feel like doing regardless of how others will judge you

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Well said Don. I agree that it is a choice, he/she also chose to represent the public and should be doing so with integrity. This is not normal. stupid is a stupid does

I see it like this, yes, there are "medical" conditions whereas a child is born neither male or female, based upon the medical facts and medical team will make the determination if the child is male or female, and sometimes they get it wrong.

This is not the case with this person, this person made a choice to bring a child into this world, who is now 13 years old.  This person must now explain to his son that he is no longer a man, but a woman.  A 13 year old son is at a very critical point in their life, and I am sorry, to do this is selffish.  He made a choice to be married, he made a choice to have a child, therefore, you are a parent first.  I really feel for this poor kid, and the wife of this man.  It would be like you were living a lie!

On top of all that, this man made a choice to get into public office.  That is a choice, a choice that must be made with alot of forethought.  I for one had been approached to run for city commissioner, and after long thought declined.  Why cause I realize the sacrafices that come with a political life. For example, say one day I am at Publix and I buy a few cases of beer for my camping trip, well if I am in political office, I better not.  

Life is all about choices, and we suffer the consequences of the choices we made.  He made these choices, and if you ask me he is a very self centered person, for not putting his family first.  It's one thing if you are single and have no children, that's a choice you made, but if you made the CHOICE to be FAMILY MAN, then be it.  Some friggin therapist probably told this guy, now you must follow what makes you happy.  No, you must follow the responsibilites of being a role model, a parent, and a father to your son.  You don't ruin this child's childhood with this stuff.  

your idea of being a role model is sitting back and putting everyone else first? :o

F@#K that! who cares where you work, how many wives or kids you have...if your not happy , you need to do something about it..bottom line...

and as for the beer issue....have you ever seen a video clip of our o so great president drunk? come on now

JackL, "It's" not in Tampa (Hillsborough). I think "it's" in Largo (Pinellas)

We wouldn't have that here in Tampa town, we did try to get Joe Redner in Tampa though, but I hear he's a fag too.
FWIW, look up Joe Redner's kid's on Hillsborough Co. arrest inquiry web site.

www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/Sname01

No my idea of being a role model is putting my family first!  

That's whats wrong with the society, like you said, "F" how many wives you have or kids you have.....  So if you not happy, ah the hell with the kids and wives, who needs them, I am not happy, and I want to be happy.  Being an adult means taking responsibility for your actions, being a parent means putting your kids and your family first.  If more people would do that with their kids, this world would not be so screwed up.  

2Stroke, If you would have read everything, you would have seen that I said my comparison was little harsh........... So for you to say that I am retarted  is now aimed at me !!!! I didnt call any names, just voicing my opinion.    So now, I will say you started the name throwing NOT me

im not in anyway saying forgot about them and leave them high and dry...i'm saying dont put everyone else first all the time...people do that too much...and i totally agree with taking care of your responsibilities and being a parent...
  but there comes a time when people have had enough...what if he was fighting his inner demons, and it came to him takinig his own life or changing his sex and trying to be happy? i think his son would want to have his father around in any shape, rather than dead? and i know all the close minded individuals are going to have a field day with that last sentence...let em have it

Inner demons??, taking his own life ??????? You are backing up EXACTLY what I have said, He IS TOO UNSTABLE for a high profile career !!!
 

 

i didnt say DYNODON was retarded...i said the comment was... i was voicing my opinion..i'll double check but i do believe it was agreed with? if so thats retarded.....i dont name call over the internet..its silly.... i'll leave that up to others

HE fully intended to show up at work as a man dressed as a woman, and 99% of things that get done in this world are either to pay a mortgage or for personal revenge IMO.




Well as a guy 350 miles removed from the situation, google led me to believe this is a Tampa issue.
http://tampa.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A207025

After enduring years of hanging chad jokes, pretty much everything negative in FL results in a whole new round of country wide Florida humor. I am not so far from the area, and the only Largo I know is in Monroe County, and it is a Key. How is someone from Nebraska going to view this...? Florida, that's how. I don't like being lumped in with a bunch of yahoos who have a man dressed as a woman doing anything for the city, county or state.
 


The voters elected a man to whatever position HE holds. They were never made aware of this crazy 'I want to be a woman' side when they were electing him. That makes him a liar and untrustworthy. Anyone who feels free to indulge such a crazy whim is borderline insane IMO, and in no way qualified to hold any sort of public office.



Neither am I.

It is nice that you are so enlightened, really. ;) The only experience I have with 'transgendered' males is at two bars I am forced to service the NTN game system in Key West at. I can assure EVERYONE here, these people are not right by ANYONES standards! Perhaps these folks are not representative of the whole 'chop off the jewels and dress like a woman crowd', but it is seriously nothing I would ever wish on my worst enemy,( driving four hours to service these machines )
and the one helper who I trained to fix these systems flat out refuses to ever return. I can't blame him, and if it wasn't a very important client to me, neither would I.


EDIT: Clarified my statement a bit.

did you hear about the meteorologist in the Tampa market who recently took his life in his garage? was he too unstable to tell  us it was gonna rain tommorow? give me a break

Your statements contradict each other. First you say what a sexual master mind.

Then you say one has nothing to do with the other. Seems like they are along the same lines to me.


I agree with everyone that says a FREAK like that shouldn't be doing a job like that.

What about the inner demons that he just created in his son's life.  Come on the kid is 13 years old, that is like a very critical time in a kids life.

And besides, he makes one UGLY woman.......

BIG difference there !!!! We all know the weather isnt acurrate anyway. BUT, anyone who commits suicide or tries to commit needs mental help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wtf don't you understand?!?!?!he did a perfect job for all those years...and for all those years he still felt the same way inside!!!he will still be able to perform his JOB duties as he did before...

you should look up his achievements...you may be impressed?

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All I can say is I WISH I was the OP of this post, dang!!!

I can't help but feel personal feelings about posters are clouding some peoples judgement in this thread...?

No matter, if you seriously want to defend these sort of people it is your right, I certainly am not judging HIM. I am recounting my feelings and some experiences I feel are relevant on the matter. ;)


Carry on.

Cross dressing is not the issue here.

Would you be more ok with the surgery if she would have been been born with both parts, then had to make a choice what parts to keep?

2strokins comment - that the message she is sending is do what you want no matter what people think - I think that is a very strong message, and I commend that. There should be more people who do what they feel is right for them and not care what people think - That is a leader...

I also agree that the whole time Steve was in office he felt and ran the city of Largo feeling like a woman. So now even though you were good enough as a man now that you are a woman you need to be fired. That is crap!!

I am saying it is is not up to ANY ONE OF US to judge someone based on having a sex change operation. Obvisously none of you have experienced first hand what these people go through. THEY ARE STILL PEOPLE and should be treated as a person.  

Here is the link I keep referring to about the 20/20 episode about transgender children....let me guess they are freaks/nut jobs too??? I think not. People ARE born this way and its sad that society has to ALWAYS pass judgement. Why dosen't everyone seriously look at this. This story when it aired broke my heart.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3088298&page=1

don i'll give you that..the weather isnt accurate...but what about washington?our government? they are accurate? i feel that some of the people who actually make important decisions for us and our country should be evaluated and looked into sooner than a confused city manager, ins mall town florida ...

he's not out there making radical rules or decisions that are off the wall....or force his views upon us....

don you cant be too retarded...you do have an atv that is and will be considered the best of all time, dont you? :)

WTF dont YOU understand ???
 OH, I understand that he may have done VERY well at HIS job previously. But that doesnt mean that he is mentally stable then nor now.
 The Man/half woman made commitments and took an oath, he broke those he swore on, and has made himself/herself look like a fool, incompitent, too unstable for such a position.


 We are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. You have your opinion, and I have mine. I am DONE with this Topic, I dont live in Largo, So they can deal with it down there.

Ok, my first statement as usual was to attempt to lighten the situation.  If you haven't read my posts I'm generally making jokes about something.  As for my second statement.  I still feel that he is capable of doing the job.  I do feel bad for the son.  How confusing it must be and what a horrible experience this must be for him and his mother.  Freak or not if the job gets done that's what's important.

I wouldn't consider a man w/ long hair or a woman w/ short hair any less of their gender.  Why should I care if someone dresses different?

jack- all you have done is judge him in every post you made? :-\ some of your comments in my eyes could have been taken as sexist/racist? homophobic?..

maybe im wrong?

he didnt take an oath to never get confused and change his sexuality....he probably agreed to uphold the law, and make decisions for the city of largo that would make the city a better place for evrone and keep everyones interest first..

does everyone here think bill clinton should have been impeached for his actions...i mean he did commit adultry in the white house...and his decisions affected everyone...right?

Hey, we all know about opinions. ;)

yes we do ;D

I read your longer post as well. I see ALL the points you have made here as well. However he had 2 parents - the mom was well aware of what her husband did at night and she CHOOSE to keep her child in that situation. Again why does all the blame go on Susan? She is now soley responsible for the inner demons she has supposedly caused her child. I don't agree with that.

That is why I state the person who leaked the info to the press before Steve was even off the property to be attacked by media crews should have been fired. Gee that person breached a confidential meeting but that is ok right?
This person was planning on taking a leave of absence - seriously don't you think he was going to speak to his child? He never had that chance - his kid found out from the media, due to a city offical leaking confidential information.

Call me whatever you wan't. I say the guy/girl is a freak (fag), not a person I would want my kid's looking up too.

He shoulda finished his term as the gender he was at time of application, after that he can do or be whatever he want's, then after he decide's what he want's to be we the people could elect or not elect this person.

i dont think he has been altered yet

He look's altered to me in that picture dressed like a woman.

i think he's still got the boys...i think the actual surgery will be later

I'm sorry I didn't hear the tone of your typing in the first post.

Your hair cut and the way you dress are a far cry from a sex change.

This is getting funnier by the minute.

I will probably get slammed for what I am about to say, but what the heck...

Man I miss the old days...

You know when a man was a man, a woman a woman, gay meant happy.

It pisses me off, when my son asked me one day, hey mama what's gay mean. Of course, since he was only 7, I responded means happy.  But no it didn't take long that I had to try and explain it to him.  It's bad enough that kids know what sex is at like 9 years old, if not younger, but then you have to explain to your child why to men want to be together, and I am sorry there is no explaining it.  I believe in the word of God, and I try to live by it the best way I can.  It's bad enough that they take prayer out of school, but now they want to take Elementary age kids and teach them about homosexuality in the class room, and that is "normal" to be gay.  You know what, if you can't teach my child about God in the classroom, then leave your damn lifestyle out of our children's classroom.

Some of you may say, what the hell does it have to do with this, it has everything to do with this.  Tolerance, everyone has to respect and be tolerant of one's sexuality.  But you see, tolerance in this Country is a one way street.  See you are to be tolerant of one's sexual orientation, but you can't not be tolerant of ones religious belief. The are two very distinct sides to this discussion.  One is tolerance, and one is the people's belief in God.  See you can speak on Sexual tolerance, but one can't even say "In God We Trust", without having to go on the defense.  And you want to know why that is?  Cause there is no tolerance in the Word of God, the Bible is very CLEAR on this subject, but everyone is too affraid to bring it up, because it may be seen as intolerant.  Well I stand up and say, it is not what God intended us to be, and He is very clear on the subject.

Well, here goes nothin....

Im with ya ..............

chero - 1st I have to say I have no issues with you at all but religion has nothing to do with this thread...this thread is about transgender people. This has nothing to do with schools or teaching religion - i must have missed the relevance to your post and No - I have no problem with God at either. 

How many of you who are so against this actually took a look at the link I posted regarding the 20/20 story?

The voters do not pick a city manager....City Council does.  The city manager works at the pleasure of city council which is chosen by voters...my 2 cents worth

I thought things were complicated down here...LMAO.  I never thought a place in FL could be more of a joke than Ft. Laud.  8)

The bottom line is, when you sign on the dotted line of an employment application, it clearly asks "M/F". When this pig took office IT was classified as a "M". Now IT wants to change that. Give me a break. If you or I lie on our employment application we can be terminated immediately. I have fired people more than once for lying on an employment application. The city of Largo is forever tarnished by this thing. IT has ruined IT's son & wifes lives. I hope like hell that Sarasota is just humoring these idiots. I beleive IT is immoral & IT has no beleif in God. I wouldnt want it leading anything for me. Someone said it is a "real leader" ::) maybe it could lead your kids boy scout or girl scout troop sometime soon. I say this thing needs to move to San Francisco & find it's self out there.

Oh BTW, Lovenit, 1st you defend this beast & then you say IT is "genetically defective"? So are you saying IT is a freak or its all ok & we should just turn a blind eye. Kinda sounds like both to me. ???

has anyone noted the similarities between these 2 jokers....One was a man and the other wants to be a man...

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DOHHHHH ;)

Now that is the Chuck I know. ;)  LMAO!!!

Momma alway's said, "life is like a box of chocolate's, ya never know what your gonna get till you bite into one" :)
I agree with everything that's been said here, except for the stuff I dont agree with.

Well he has some mental problems.....His family is like WTF is wrong with you @sshole.  Can you imagine what his son is going through right now.  I mean this kid is probably going to attempt sucicide over this...

"God will give you a first class ticket to Heaven if you shot him."

It makes me sick just looking at him! Imagine just working with him

i wonder who does his highlights?

I know someone who worked with Steve Stanton,Those people where told there would be counsolers brought in to speak individually with every employee who works with him (at Tax payers expense)and after his sex change he would be refered to susan and under no circumstance intentional or accidental shall he be called steve or face termination.I thought that was B.S. .It was shortly after employees were told this that it made the news.I feel as though tax payers funds should not be used to make the transition from one sex to another less difficult on him. Furthermore the doctors screwed up instead of taking a man who was fealing feminine and giving him some testoserone to make him feel more like a man they felt it was easier to lop it off and pump tons of female hormones into him.Some have mentioned religion has nothing to do with trans-gender,This is where you are wrong Bible states your body is a Temple to the Lord and you shall not destroy his temple,He wants his temple the way he made it god made him a man for a reason.I also think those of you who say they dont believe in god have just not experianced the right motivation.Human's Love to beg for devine intervention when there is no other hope for ex. when the roof is being torn off your house during a hurricane,or being held hostage at gunpoint .The more we except these type of things as OK and turn our back on God the faster the people will become watered down and ultimately this great country will crumble.I mean can you imagine having to depend on Susan Stanton to defend our country .Stanton was also responsible for holding up a lot of permiting for church expansions for no particular reason's could that be becouse he knew the churh views on transgender and allowed his personal feelings to get in the way and hold up projects for the churchs?

IF THAT DONT GET YOUR FIRED UP THEN YOUR WOOD IS WET :ThumbsUp.gif

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Got that right!

bullets are very cheap and insantly effective

Man, how come every thread in this place ends up with someone wanting to kill someone else??

Where can I buy some of these instantly effective bullets? I'm going hog hunting and if I run across a 1600 lb'r I want to be sure. ;)

I agree 100% with Loven It. To each his own.........would I do it? No!!!  Should he be fired for it? No. Everyone should be able to make their own choices.

not when it affects everyone else around you.

Here ya go Jackl this should take care of a 1600#er

Bingo and that apply's to everything we do, period the end.

hey 450rcrazy.....where do you get your info? i was trying to find out where he was stopping permitting for churchs...i couldnt find it...thanks

LMAO, I want to be able to get some dinner out of it when it is over. ;)

Stanton was denied. HAHA

 He must first live as a woman for a year before he is able to receive his surgery.....................a big decision to keep an outie or make it an innie........ :o

LMAO, this is my nomination for best quote of the thread!!!

 :bow.gif  Ty  hahahaha  but so true..........

LOL...... :L 2:L :R 2:L :L 2:L :R

Is it just me  :dunno.gif or is anyone else wantin' sum of dat!! 2:L 2:L 2:L 2:L WHOOO!!!!


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Man, I just puked in my mouth a little. Thanks. (http://www.floridaatv.com/smf/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/brushteeth.gif)

I think he/she/it looks better as a woman than a man...I know every man out there can agree that at one time or another, he has been drunk and silly and slept with something worse than that(female only).  They all like mo-peds, fun to ride but you do not want your friends to catch you on one!!

Sorry garym, I can promise you I have never came close to anything like that(female only). And NEVER will. Not even on a 3day drunken binge.
It does sound like you speak from experience though.

LMAO, I was thinking the ugliest woman in the world beats that fellow hands down every time, when I read that quote from Gary! I'm glad he threw in the (female only) or this thread probably would have went to eight pages.

LMAO   :Clap.gif :Clap.gif :Fp :T :T

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SORRY! JACKL could'nt resist! 

What can I say, you are the exception rather than the rule.  If you are into the five finger folly instead of a mo-ped....good for you ;)

5 fingers beats that anyday. I do have standards. ;)

HA!!!     :drink.gif :drink.gif :drink.gif :drink.gif      LMAO

Depends what you are doing with em.  8)

I know a contractor who was hired to do an expansion project at a local church in Indian Rocks and litteraly went through hell trying to get the permitting thru. Everything was good until it made it thru his office and once it was found to be for a church the problems started.