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Click the link below to see if there is a sex offender(s) in your area

http://mapsexoffenders.com/

Scary to see how many show up in my zip code,,,,,dang!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the Post Chuck..

wow theres 6 less then a mile away from me  :o

I wonder how many people on that map were 20 year olds having sex with 17 year olds?

Wow, quite a few near me...yuck.

nice none by me. Yes you are right how many were 18 or 19 with  17 YEAR OLD

I know it might seem comforting to believe that some of these people are victims of political correctness, however, that's usually far from the case.  A large number of pedophiles (yes, that's what they call adults who prey upon underage (including 17 year-olds) individuals) tend to be middle-age and up and a majority of their victims are 14 years-old and under.  You will never know how despicable the crime is until it hits home.  Joke all you want, but sexual offenses are life-altering events for the victims.  It should be at least as horrible for the perpetrator.  I would have no problem putting a bullet right between the eyes of the person who molested my daughter.  Unfortunately, the police got to him before I could.  What my daughter went through was comparatively tame to what most victims go through but, nevertheless, it is a series of events she will deal with for the rest of her life while this scumbag MFer that molested her might only live a few more years, albeit in prison.  A hell of a price to pay for a few moments of jollies.  Think about that long and hard the next time you get the hankering to go pick up on some high school girls (or boys, or younger; whatever your flavor is).  Like the old saying goes, find someone your own age to play with.  Here is another similar site that you can enter your zip code and find all types of criminals around you.  By clicking on the different color squares, you can see a picture of the convict.  Who knows, it might be someone you work with.

www.FamilyWatchDog.us (http://www.FamilyWatchDog.us)

Let me be the first to say, this topic is not appropriate for this site, that is for sure.

YES, I understand that probably 95% of these scumbags are rightfully convicted and do deserve to swing from a rope, but what of the other 5%

I guarantee some wrongful convictions there, and the kids screwed by a 1 year age difference scares me. When I was 21 i had a 16 year old girlfriend, I shudder to think how my life would be different if it wasn't 20 years ago!

Some Weston kid up the block from me is in that same boat, and they are separated by only 2 years.

50 years ago, 15 year old brides were common. I am not defending a 45YO Ahole who rapes a 3 year old kid here by any means, just injecting some perspective from the middle of the road.

This is the open discussion forum; all topics are open.  And why wouldn't it be appropriate?  By your own examples, certain adults have preyed upon impressionable young girls for ages.  Do you truly believe that makes it better?  After my daughter came forward, it gave some of the other victims of this jackass courage to come forward as well.  Some of these people had been molested 50 years previously.  There was a different mindset back then; the victims of sex crimes were generally treated as though they had it coming to them.  Laws for sexual abuse against children didn't even exist in most areas until the '60s and '70s!  Education is why this is now an open topic and why so many more of these scumbags are being caught, prosecuted and sent to prison.  This is the perfect topic anywhere people with children congregate.

I do see your point regarding getting the message out, but this is the type of topic has the potential to get a bunch of flames going and make enemies of people who by all means should be friends.
I can imagine some crazy guy using that map to go door to door to dispense some good old southern justice, and possibly hitting an innocent guy by accident, and cause a bunch of collateral damage.

You know many people exist like that, I'll bet 50% or the readers thought how you could go punish these bastards now. It even crossed my mind, and I do believe some innocent people are on the list.
The needs of the many...blah, blah. I'm either going to stop drinking or posting now.

This is public information for such a reason. peaple need to be aware of whats around them and their children, For the safety of their  children.

 I do however see the other side as well, I have a friend that was dating a 16 year old, while he was 19. The mother was a single mom, moved away and let my friend move with them, so they could still be together !!! Now here is the KICKER !!!!! He wouldnt sleep with the mother, so she turned him in saying he was too old for her daughter !!!!!!
 Now he has to register as a sex offender the rest of his life.

 I have a ton of friends that are either deputies or detectives in the county I live in, Man I am telling you this county is full of them, NOT to mention other things that are equally concerning

I had a room mate that was convicted of lewd and lucivious behavior w/ a minor.  He was 25 or so and some girl kept hitting on him.  She was 16 or 17 and told him that she was 21.  Since she was standing in a bar w/ a coctail he believed her.  She went to school the next day and told her friend.  Who told the girls mom.  We had our house egged, cars tampered w/, etc.  He registers every time he moves.  And for what?  What happened to this little tramp that lied while in a bar drinking?  She was not affected at all.  Her parents didn't ground her or anything else.  She flat out lied and based on the circumstances he had every reason to believe she was telling the truth.

Now he lives a very quiet life.  Rarely leaves the house other than to go to work and come home.  He tries to stay out of the public eye as much as possible.  His car and rented house get trashed every so often and he's been kicked out of his rented homes by the owners.  For what?  For hooking up w/ some hootchie chick that lied and was trying to be older than she was.

I know that this isn't always the case.  Before being critical think that these ppl are actually affected on a daily basis.  Some did terrible things and got off w/ no where near what their victims live w/.  Others did nothing that most of us wouldn't have done and it changed their lives forever and they are the victims but the perpetrator got off scott free.

My friend is not a danger to anyone's child yet based on the sites ppl still torment him and always will.

well said..^^^^^^^
.Awarness is 1/2 the battle. The biggest problem that has developed since the so called days of yore, is the amount of tolerance in the name politcal correctness or in the event that you might hurt someones feelings, I say Bring on More DateLine exposures and Websites that exposes taboo issues such as this. As for the wrongfully accused It is what it is, that is what the legal system is for even though not perfect. I would rather take that chance to know that thousand of Kids are safe and that I have a choice to move into and area If and when buying a house that may cause  me to regret if the vessels were not made available.  Lets take the kid in Kingsland as a perfect example...  

Oh, I agree with ya Chuck !!!!! Peaple need to be aware with out a doubt.
I have watched the dateline episodes, and its really SCARY how many pervs there are out there !!!

This is a great post! We should lock it!

I agree 100%.  Predators are very much to be feared.  I have a cousin that I just found out bad news about.  Not sure what happened but I'd like to kill her best friends dad!!!  Creepy bastard preying on a 12yo at a sleep over at his house, then lie to her and tell her he wants to talk to her about planning a party for her friend.  I know they are out there.  I don't have kids but I take VERY seriously ppl that do bad things to them and it angers me to no end.

I am in a unique position of seeing both sides.

I dated a 17 year old when I was 21, and never did anything with her.  But now that I look back on it, all it would of took was the accusation of me doing something and I would of been labeled for life.  I do agree that there are some people that fell victim to this scenario, but not that many.  I see both sides of the road and this is a good post Chuck.  Great information to get out there.  I don't have any children yet, but believe me I will be watching that website more often once I do have children.  Great information in my opinion.

I agree, more DateLine like stings. These freaks they catch rightfully belong on the list. I do believe the current system is flawed though, and QT314's post illustrates it perfectly. So before any of you load up some ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel, consider who might be in there, and does the target deserve it.

Hey Chuck,

I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw the ACLU insignia on your post.  I thought maybe you had lost your mind when you left Ford.   :D  Then I saw the sickle and hammer of the USSR and realized what you were saying and ain't it the truth; bunch of commie bastads!

Crap....one lives near us!!! I got the rope ready... anyone have a nice tall tree?

Nah my mind is all there, It might be a little shifted but it is all there. I think, has anyone seen a piece of my mind laying around???

I make a distibute bumper stickers that say               Protect our children shoot a sex predator                         i feel once they are convicted they should be punished with DEATH

I just want to add something that was explained at a meeting at my childs school. It just adds to what some people are saying.

There was a local officer there and explained the biggest mistake people make when reading the predator information websites is that the charge does not always match the "crime". Meaning that the wording of the charges are very general and have not been updated as far as wording for years. There are many "techinally" called sex crimes that are just that! Point blank rape, molestation and so on. Then the ones everyone is mentioning of someone over 18 dating someone under 18. They fall under the same techinal charge. Keep that in mind that even though there are several in your immediate area does not mean they are all perverts. Do as the officer that held this meeting said call or go to the local pd and they will look it up and let you know the exact crime. You can also on some websites get the exact crime listed with the predator. Trust me I have a 6yr old child as well. The thought of someone touching, looking at him the wrong way or even think about touching him, just makes me crazy. I know that I will spend the rest of my life in prison if given the opportunity to find them. I will pay that price. I am just saying that some people fly off the handle and react way to quickly when they see that there are predators in their immediate area. The fact that I have a few in my neighboorhood, just makes me more aware that my son can't go outside to play alone.

One of the things I liked about the FamilyWatchdog website is that it provides a picture and their conviction.  If you see a 20-something with a conviction, he might be one of the few victims of circumstance (i.e. 20 y.o. having sex with a 16 y.o.).  But, you can't automatically make that assumption.  It could just as easily have been with a 13 y.o.  I'm sure you all knew the girl in 9th grade who had a 19 or 20 year-old boyfriend.  My friends and I did and we had a name for those guys; losers.  Now, on the other hand, if you have a picture of an old man who has a lewd & lascivious, victim under 12, conviction, there's no doubt.  The point here is that you have to use a little common sense with this information.  These people have paid their debt to society and continue to.  You have no right to badger them or seek revenge.  However, don't be ignorant to the situation.  It is a proven fact that the sexual predator cannot be rehabilitated.  Don't allow your child or spouse to become a victim.  Know who's in your neighborhood and keep a slanted eye in that direction.

whoa,,,,,did a quick search and literally across the street from my ex-wifes former house(just moved 6 months ago) was one.  Her address was 518, his address 517.

"Conviction(s)
LEWD,LASCIVIOUS CHILD U/16; F.S. 800.04 (PRINCIPAL)
Sx Offender fail to not. Sheriff; F.S. 943.0435(7) (PRINCIPAL)
Source of Information: FL State Offender Registry"

Id@

Is your friend Hank Williams Jr.? He wrote a song called "The Knoxville Courthouse Blues" That describes this exact thing, except the girls parents caught him in the act after he picked her up at a 21 & up bar. Listen to it sometime, it will certainly hit home for your friend & it was written over 20yrs ago.

   :o after looking further the towtruck driver that came to River Ranch to tow my wifes H2 is on the list :o

"sittin in a knoxville courthouse, aint got a thing to do , dont want to go to the movies, couldnt if I wanted to , cause Im on trial ....for lovin you""  ....hank jr huh , NAW, never heard that song. ;D

Actually no I don't believe I've heard that song.  Very strange. 

Mom and Pop are white and heterosexual-enough to have delivered that abortion to our society! Can you image that? But, can't tell from the photos if they still have their teeth.

For those of you who have argued that the young are not really guilty because their victim was under 18 and they are just over, this scumbag's conviction occurred when he was 22.  Just a victim of circumstance?  It's proof once again that there is no cure other than death.  Who knows how many others were defiled at his hands before this happened.

SAVANNAH, Ga. - A convicted child molester and his parents were indicted Wednesday on charges they molested and then murdered a 6-year-old neighbor boy, whose body was found last week in a trash bag dumped by a roadside.

Glynn County District Attorney Stephen D. Kelley said he will seek the death penalty against George David Edenfield, 32, who has a prior child molestation conviction from 1997

Damn, I should have become a lawyer. I can't believe I am going to get back in this thread, but I must inject this. I swear I would die to get any bastard that violated my little daughter, or anyones for that matter.

The term "sex offender" applies to many classes of crimes. One can become a sex offender for raping a five-year-old, and the same label will be applied to many who urinate in public, are 18 years old and have sex with a 16-year-old girlfriend. or even download child pornography from the Internet for the thrill of getting away with something. Is this the correct way to handle crime--by popping a modern-day scarlet letter on a wide class of convicts, then treating them all as if they are all equal to the worst in the group?


Registries are often used to engage in vigilante justice against convicted sex offenders. A few high-profile cases exist where a "righteous citizen" used information on sex offender registries to locate and murder sex offenders.


New sex offenses against children are usually committed by persons close to those children and not currently listed on any form of criminal registry. The truthful figures, direct from a US Dept. of Justice study, place the number of convicted sex offenders that commit new sex crimes between five and six percent--which means that if 100 people are on the registry for your county, only five or six will commit another sex crime, which means that 94 or 95 will not.


Sex offender registries are what is known as a "de facto" punishment. After serving whatever sentence is expected, offenders are then branded, often for life, by having huge amounts of personal information posted in a publicly accessible registry. This violates the basic idea that once a person "does their time" they can return to society and rebuild their lives.


Many people feel that sex offenders should be punished as much as possible, or even killed immediately upon conviction, and this is often how one finds registration and post-punishment punishment justified, but consider this: sex offenders that are released from prison or are placed on probation with a suspended sentence need to rebuild stable lives in order to minimize the risk of committing new crimes, including new sex crimes. Stability generally consists of meeting core needs such as decent housing, a job with a living wage, and healthy social relationships. Having a demonizing label like "sex offender" prevents these people from getting housing and a job, and in general any new friendships will dissolve immediately upon discovering the "sex offender" status. This becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: the offender can't register without a home, and goes back to jail on a felony failure to register. The offender steals to eat, and goes back to jail for petty theft. The offender can't develop relationships, and may revert to deviant behavior to compensate, which may consist of resuming the behaviors that opened up opportunity to sexually offend in the first place. In other words, punishment of offenders beyond prison and/or probation actually increases the overall chances that your children will jump in harm's way.
THE BOTTOM LINE: Sex offender registration coupled with fully open public disclosure of the contents of the registry endangers everyone. The ex-offender and his or her innocent family members, your children, and even you yourself--all are at higher risk of becoming a crime victim because of sex offender registration. If the purpose of registration is to help you protect your family, it is failing in a worse way with every passing year. The next time you hear a politician talking about "being tough on crime," remember what you've read here, and ask yourself: is the "tough on crime" approach making my child safer, or just making me feel better at night for a few months before my child gets molested at the pool?

That is a very well presented case for abolishing sex offender lists.  However, any person who is convicted of a crime has their personal information become a matter of public record.  Are you suggesting that those who commit sex crimes should receive a sheltered status since their crime is more heinous than, say, a burglar?  That they should receive special status so they have a fighting chance to 'get on with their lives?'  I applaud the efforts of these clearing houses that search the public records and identifies these deviants of society. I think it is important that sexual offenders be required to register.  The fact of the matter is the most appalling abuse is committed by repeat offenders.  It is nearly universally agreed that there is no cure for this type of behavior.  We're not talking about the 19 year-old dating a 16 year-old; I have trouble accepting that as being a crime.  But when you're talking 19 with 12 or 13, or younger as we've have seen, then that person needs to be dealt with.  The system is not perfect and perhaps there should be a mechanism to expunge the record of a person who is a victim of a momentary lapse of judgement.  Most states have a minimum age of consent that usually includes an acceptable age spread of the consenting parties.  They are there for a reason.  A 15 year-old is not equipped to deal with the savviness of a 21 year-old she meets at the beach (or in a bar, for that matter, if she managed to sneak her way in).  Being labeled a sexual offender is something these people brought upon themselves.  Not the other way around.  The law was there when they entered into their pattern of behavior.  They made the choice to act.  Their choices are no different than the burglar or murderer.  I use these two examples because all three of these crimes require a conscious effort to commit.  I have no pity for any of them.

I just really feel the current classification system needs a major revamp.
Perhaps the ones administering it keep it vague for some unknown reason.
It scares me some wingnut might blow up some guys house because he is on the flawed list, and by god he either moved or was innocent in the first place. My mom could be next door.
Do not think for a second I don't have a replacement and improvements in mind.
Personally, I am <b>100%</b> in support of either physical or chemical castration for a good portion of the heinous offenders, and death for a select few, once proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That would practically end the need for the flawed list system in the first place.

Going back to what I said before, whether you consider the list to be flawed or not, any person convicted of a crime (any crime) has their personal information become a matter of public record.  That information will always be there for anybody willing to look for it.  These people don't deserve any special treatment.  An unacceptably high number of them usually commit multiple crimes while in the act; burglary, kidnapping, sexual assault and, finally, murder so that they don't end up on some list somewhere.  Many of those that don't go to such extremes usually try to intimidate (you tell anybody and I'll kill your mother) or influence their victims with promises of money or 'sincere' apologies.  The sexual predator is a particularly despicable character and doesn't deserve any special treatment.  They all start with one offense and go from there.  To blame their transgressions on the system is another example of one of the main problems with society today; no accountability.  I'm sick of hearing about tough childhoods.  We all know right from wrong.  If you have urges that you know is wrong, then go get help before you act out.  Don't sit back and claim you're a victim of the system after the fact.