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tell me what your reason for pickin is for what you picked

never had a yamaha on a boat

WOW man you don't have the Evinrude E-Tec on the list..
That is HANDS DOWN the best outboard ever made!!!
Call a Yamaha or Mercury dealers and ask why there motor is better than a E-Tec they will be lost for words/./.

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mercury gets a little tiny bit better gas mileage

Yamahas carb 2 strokes are some of the most reliable and best performing engines ever designed for marine use. Mercury has a history of great performance but reliability has always been a question . Its to early to tell what may or may not happen with the E-tec , but it looks good so far.

i just sold a boat with a mercury that was a 1995 started up fisrt or second time after sitting for 3-5 months at a time neverhad any problems

Mercury's are a pain in the a$$ to work on.plus they arn't reliable.I have 5 boats all with johnsons and I never have any problems.

thats interesting my friend has a johnson and hates it what year is yours

Oh I forgot to mention I have one mercury.It's a 97 model 50hp. It needs a new powerhead.has trim and tilt.FORSALE.My johnsons are in the 90's

97 50s were never that good his johnson was a 99

I have a 90 mercury classic that has never given nme a lick of trouble,I vote mercury!

how come your sign is a yamaha
is it your atv

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thats a cute one what is it a 25 or a 15

I always heard, if you want to get there first...get a merc,  if you want to get there and back, get a 'rude.  It was a little hard to hear those omc guys talking while they were so far back, and my merc's always got me back ok.

I voted for Mercury 8)

But it really depends what motors your looking at....4-stroke or 2-stroke....Mercury Veradoes or Yamaha 4-Stroke......Mercury OptiMAX or Yamaha HPDI's

Hands down I'll choose the Merc's Veradoe SUPERCHARGERS

For a 2 Stroke i'll either choose a HPDI or the Mercury racing engines......But I'll get the Yamaha HPDI......IMO

I have 95 Hrs on my '05 Mercury Veradoe 250HP and I havent had any problems with them yet(knock on wood) but I did have a problem with my port side engine.  THe fuel float stuck and had to be replaced other than that they are soo freakin quiet....I think their under 55 DB's at IDLE but when you WOT them puppies it's a totally different ball game.

Dont get me wrong the E-TEC's are awesome motors.......I just haven't had any experience with them.  I guess no maintance for 3 Years is like heaven :o

15 Hp yammi  ;D.  I has a 8 hp Mercury but after the 2 nd carb kit in less than a year I went with a yamaha and I am glad I did.   This baby starts easier than the merc and runs awesome, I have had it for 2 yrs with no problems.  Go with the Yamaha  :ThumbsUp.gif

suzuki

gf's dad just put a 40 yamaha 4 stroke on his '16 lowe and it moves pretty damn good with it almost full to capacity. we haul ass when its just me and him goin fishin. He had an 8 horse on it before, it was really reliable but it had zero balls.

randall? where are you at on this subject? you should be able to write a paper on this haha.

I choose mercs hands down. I have a 1983 Storm bass boat with a merc 200  and man that thing screams and has never and i mean never given me 1 problem.I am the original owner so i know the motor. I also have a 17' proline center console with a 2000 merc opti 150 and motor has 1600 hours on it and regular maint no problems what so ever.
 I do know my nieghbor has a 200 yama hamer and he loves it even though he did just replace the power head

thats what always goes bad on yamaha

ive had both mercury and yamaha yamaha is great on gas but kinda lacks power compared to mercury

I fix outboards for a living. They all have there pros and cons. I could tell you something good and bad about every engine listed so far. I have two boats and they both have Suzuki 4 strokes on them. I like to leave my work, at work, and these engines have let me do that.

the new suzukis kick ass

im selling 2 of them and ill tell you what, if you call within the next 5 minutes ill throw in a boat with them for no extra charge!

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,22564.0.html

e-techs are no beter than any other feul injected 2 stroke, they advertise them like there totaly difrent than anything else out there and there bigest sales point is not having to change oil, instead they burn it, and they viod your warenty if you dont burn synthetic

Cuz of the Grizz!

We have a 1984 Merc 150 on our cajun bass boat and it has only had a few minor problems. Mostly from opperator error and one time it died but the carbeurators had never been worked on since it was made untill we got it. So that was a pretty easy fix. It smokes allot but if it aint smokin its broken so thats good.  I would actally reccomend all brands. One person with a bad exprience shouldnt sway your decision. I mean ours has been almost trouble free and we are the second owner since 1984 so thats saying somethin. But its not like any of the major manufactures build crap. If you keep them manianed and all that they should all suit you fine.



 

I've had a johnson, evinrude, merc and yamaha and they are all good motors as long as u take care of them.  Out of the newer motors id go with a yamaha, the new evinrudes havn't proven themself to me yet. The mercs are the same as they always have been, they have always been know to sacrifice a lil reliability to get more performance. Overall, i would go with either a yamaha or a merc. Also a thing to think about, most of the newer yamaha and mercury outboards share parts(they sell parts to eachother) so they are somewhat similar motors in ways.

Not anymore. And even when they did it was only a small amount of Merc 4 strokes that had Yamaha power heads. By the way all of the Johnson 4 strokes are Suzuki. The only thing Johnson was the paint.

my uncle has trip e-tecs and they suck. no power to get on plane, decent top end though.

yeah, save money by not changing oil as often? but you buy 10x as much and burn it all


not a big fan of the verados (yet) couple little defects the first year they had them but they seem alright. everyone talks about the damn electronic throttle control but you can get that with any motor. but there supposably the fastest motor out on the water right now, yes even faster than the new 300s from what i hear

Merc still makes some 2 stroke 300s that will smoke the Verado. And to get 275hp out of a 275 verado you have to use 91 octane. Otherwise it won't put out more than 250hp.

Johnson/Envinrude, never had anything else.  Never will.

yamaha has a 350hp 4 stroke they are bringing out in production soon, so depending on how it performs it will mostlikly have the most power for a stock outboard

Yamaha is my choice, I don't need a black anchor.

Yamaha has become what Evinrude/ Johnson used to be , but with better performance. Most all the guys I know, their boats are rigged with Yamaha. Most are guides in the Keys, and they need their boats running in order to make money.Some are commercial fisherman and prefer the Yamaha commercial engine.
Mercury makes a very good race inspired engine and Im not saying they suck. But, I know that Yamahas are a more reliable engine that has great performance.

My Force will out run em all. :)

what year is it havent seen one of thos in a while

go with the yamaha...I have had 3 mercs and they all blew up or had problems.  For the last 10 years I have ran Yamadogs and never had a problem/failure yet.  I am currently running twin 1991 225's on a 31ft center console.  The sheriff's office also runs yamaha and trade them in when they hit 2000 hours of usage!!!

Mercury makes force. They are just a off brand used on tracker and a few other brands.

no honda users?  last year I spent a week on a lake up NE Tennessee just about every pontoon boat which was abut 90% of them had honda or yamaha.

I'm just wondering why is Mercury getting such a bad rap here.

Would that be Wautauga lake?

are u stupid Chrysler makes force not mercury

No, I believe he is right, Force was made by Mercury.

Force was definatly made by merc. And whatever you buy just maintain it and it will work oh, and buy the extended warranty if your not sure

yep, force was made by merc and yamaha used to provide blocks to merc for their optimax I believe?

honda is actualy the only engine builder rite now that makes all its own parts. yamaha buys powerheads from murcury and mercury uses yamahas lower units, just so all you brand loyal fokes know... take a gander at these pictures

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just so you know this is 4 stroke only, mercury still owns in 2 strokes. but the point is there all using the same parts

nice word useage

did someone say honda?  2:L

and force?  :R

force was origionally made by CHRYSLER marine

then they were manufactured under US Marine (bayliner)

then they were bought by Brunswick (makers of Mercury)

merc stopped making them in '99 because they SUCKED! they were motors that wernt good enough to be sold under the Mercury name

LMAO, didn't mean to hijack the thread. My (2) are pre Mercury, and everyone always rags on them, but I have had little problems over the many years the ole Bayliner has been around.

may the force be with you!

I got a mid 80's bayliner for sale with galv trailer for $700. 

We spent some time there too but we rented the lake house on South Holston lake near Laurel Marina

Great place.I have family in Elizabethton ( outside of Johnson City) and we have spent a lot of time on Wautauga lake and then tubing Wautauga river. Beautiful area up there.

finely somone knows

Yes merc does make some very fast 2-strokers.....My veradoes run OK with the 89 octane from the marina.....When we 1st bought are boat in '05 it was 1/2 tank of pure 93 octane fuel.  We opened the motors to WOT and hit 62 mph.  But their is hardly any were to buy 93 octane on the water.  My top speed is around 56 mph with 89 octane fuel.  Oh yea I just pumped fuel in our boat last week and gas was $2.78 for middle grade fuel..Talking about a rip off >:(

gas is gettin expensive

LOL...I didn't notic I was on my cousin's profile....... :N

especially at 20 gallons/hour cruise!!

gas is at 283 at the pump in naples what is it like every were else?

mercury all the way is all i got to say

yes indeed.  There is a really good restaurant on the Lake that serves the best catfish.    We are going back up there in July for a week.