ATV Florida Forum

hey is any one on this site runing them ? i might be trading my 26" 589's and my warn winch for some for my rubicon
they are 29.5x10x12  and they have every other luf on the side cut to help them clean out (when they arnt cut like that the clog up very fast )

i realy wanted to know if they are any good

Well you can get outlaws in a 29.5 and they are a way better tire in the mud. OR mudzilla makes a 30 now.

Every one I know that has them Loves them...not the 29.5's but the swamplites.....AND the reason they are not cleaning right is the bike is not powering them.. :o....I could not see cutting lugs....Maybe on Super Swampers for a truck...but Not ATV Swamplites.... :-\

Dude if I was you I'd go for a smaller more agressive tire, from what I'v heard and seen of the swamplites their not very ''light'' and dont really mud all that well.If you want an agressive tire that will trail ok and hang with the laws in the mud [almost] check out the bi/tri claws.

I wouldn't run 29.5"s on that bike. It's just not big enough. You can try but watch those axles. And why would you trade a winch for bigger tires? Your going to get stuck worse with less chance to get out.

I'd go with 28" Mud Bitches.

thanks i know alot about outlaws and what not i plan on runing 29.5 outlaws down the road but right now my bike is stock and i wont be abel to turn the 29.5 outlaws

right now im looking at some 28" EDL's


i was going for the mudbitchs but they havent came out with the 28s yet

im also looking into geting a 550 BBK kit for the rubicon i have herd great things from owners with them one guy has 1500 miles and hasnt had a problem

edls would be worse than any of the outher tires IMO.Some 27'' outlaws would be good.I still recomend the bi/tri claws, GREAT tire

why would EDL's be worse ? i personly think bi/tri suck i had them on my rancher and hated them i still have them at a friends hosue 
i know i loved my old vamps on my rancher they did awsome

The edls have a 2inch lug and dig straight to the bottom so if theirs no bottom...you dont go anywhere and their VERY heavy I highly doubt a rubi could spin them even with bolt on mods.And maybe the reason the bi/tris wernt very good with you was because it was a RANCHER, a little 350.The bi/tris will run with any other mud tire and smoke them on the trail and they wear like iron.IMO the bi/tris are the best all around mud tire.

lol  trust me my rancher had the power to turn them.any one who knew my rancher will tell you it was a beast befor i put it back to stock   i ran 27" vamps on it after the bi/tri claws

and yes a rubicon dose have the power to turn them i know that for a fact there is a few guys over at high lifter runingt 28" outlaws stock and with a hmf and lift are runing 29.5s

also i ran vamps and they wont dig if you know how to ride  i know vamps will out mud mudbugs and gators any day
shoot my 26 "589s on my bike out mud my friends g/f's foreman with 27" gators

ok i'm sorry I didnt no you were the authority on tires
And vamps arnt a step up from the claws their a major step down.And I didnt say you couldnt clear the laws , I said you wouldnt be able to spin them good.

BTW 589's will not outmud bugs or gators.Maybe the person didnt no what they were doing idk but I'v seen 589's, my uncle has them on his vinson at mudfest I followed him throu most stuff on my 300 with stockers I only got stuck when I got hung up.My bugs got just as big or slightly larger tread than the 589's.Plus the 589's are way heavier and clog up much easier.

Well can I ask you something jimmy? What tires do you have right now on your bike? When you give advice you can say what you run and say how they work but unless you have ran a number of different tires then you cant go bashing everything else that isnt yours.

 As for the EDL's, I would go with those before the swamplights cause they look like a better mudtire. The swamplights look more along the lines of a smaller tire that you would use throttle and wheelspin to mud with. The EDL's would be a better tire because with a 2in lug they wouldnt take near as much throttle to mud with. I mean if you punched it with the edls you would probably dig 4 big holes but if you drive them right they would be the better choice.

I got the bugsss ;)

And I was just giving an opinion from what I'v heard/seen :P
I'm not saying the edls arnt good, their one of the best mud tires made[would blow swamplites outta the water] just would be hard to spin and really arnt needed from florida mud.

Ok it just seemed like you were bashing everything that wasnt a tri claw. BTW how are mudbugs. Im gettin some for my bike and am wondering how good they are. I have a tire advice post up but nobody seems to be able to help me... :-\

Nah I'm sorry if it seemed like I was bashing them my badd.And the bugs wow if you see them on the net they dont like that mean but when you see them in person their awsome.I havent had them in anything yet but my side lot but they hook up well and sling sand everywhere, its great they look to be a BIG improvement over stock I highly reccomend them.They also ride smooth too.

I MIGHT be getting Mudbugs but the damn asswhole thinks Im stupid and wants 500.They are like brand new tho they only have one ride and I was there when he rode and took them off(I was on the back)They were on a Rancher just like mine so I know they will fit.And they look so agressive in person the pictures online dont give em any justice.Those are my next tires for sure.

I got my mudbugs with the rims and shipping for $538 so $500 just for tires aint much of a deal.

Does 300 sound like im low balling him?

Dont quote me on this but I think the bug runs between $60-$80 depending on size so really $300 would be good maybe $350

You can buy a new set for $300. I have mud bugs and they are a great tire. Depending on the size he has.

Check here www.nebraskatire.com or here http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&satitle=atv+mud+tire&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=32643&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search

Nice research ;)

Im gettin 2 from live2mud. Hes selling them and Im gettin mine for 150. You might want to PM him.

26" around $100 a peice last time I checked.

I have the conection to get them pretty cheap so if anyone wants some pm me.

also jimmyt14 im not bashing the tires every tire i have called out i have owned i owned a set of mudbugs,gators,589's,vamps,laws,and bi/tri claws i have also owned suretracks,bear claws,mudlights im just saying from my experinces not what i read on line
vamps own bi/triclaws
and 589s arnt that bad and the girl that has the mudbugs has bine riding longer then alot of ppl i know 

http://www.highlifter.com/forum/top_5_mud_tires%25/m_1815401/tm.htm

this is what some of the ppl on highlifter think

looks like the bi/tri claws arnt that high up there
 jimmyt14 have you ever ridin a bike witg EDL's on it ? and have u ever ridin a bike with bi/tri claws ? in the same mud holes and have compared each bike ??

please just call me jimmy!!!And how bout you think what you think and I think what I think, that works best.And I said edls are one of the best mud tires made if you ddint read that post ;)
And no I havent ridden a bike with either of the 2 because for florida mud you really dont need tires like that.You can get bugs, 589s mst's etc etc and you could go practicly everywhere, at least where I ride.Mudfest or l-cross is a different thing, I didnt see one 4-wheelr out their that could go thro everything, so in my eyes you really dont need huge tires
This is all just in my own opinion so please dont jump on me about what I said

Ok im not qutie understanding what you mean. Your saying that you dont need big tires in florida? Then where would a tire like a EDL or something like that be better? Texas?

All the places I've riden have mostly water with a sand bottom not really mud.Technically their is no mud in florida, their is no dirt in florida its sand.Places like texas have mud.Mudfest and l-cross are the only places I'V BEEN where you would need tires like that but even if you had them, that crap out their is NASTY

Ok so there is no mud in florida. Thats like saying theres no snow in canada. Trust me there is more mud in florida then most places. Mabye in ocala but trust me there is plenty of mud. Theres mud behind our house alone that is green, nasty, rank, tire clogging mud. Ocala is the only place i know of that that comment would ring true. All it takes is a place where water has collected for awhile and in the shade to have some really nasty mud.

Holeylands,The Hump,The lake thats in 8st,Macs Fishing Camp.Those are all within an hour from me.

All florida mud is just sand and water.I'v lived here for 15 years and havent seen any REAL dirt  >:D

Theres a mud hole by my house i just got back from being stuck in.there is no bottom.You need to get around more often if you think florida is full of sand and no mud.

lol ok w.eeeeeee you say.

Dude that is probably the dumbest comment I have ever herd. Give me about an hour and ill have a video made that will make you eat your words with a spoon and fork!

your not riding in the right place if you think there is no mud in fl

OMFG i'm sorry I posted in this peice of sh*t forum. f**k this

Dude you dont have to cuss. Its just when you make an inate comment like that people are going to react accordingly. Theres no mud in floirda? Dude the comment water isnt wet is the only thing stupider.

maybe what you consider mud and i consider mud are different mud to me is dirt and water like up north, around here its just sand and water dont get me wrong the crap is nasty.

Ok then watch this and tell me that its all sand and water: http://youtube.com/watch?v=enmOEJZFLeg

lol real tuff stuff ::)

Yep folks, it all water and sand in florida. No mud to be found  :N  BTW those are 27s down there...

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NO NOT AT ALL,BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE SOME THICK THICK WATER AND SAND.

THIS IS NOT MUD IN FLORIDA.

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You guys really take this sh*t serously dont you.btw theirs no mud in florida lmfao

lets get back on topic now, hey if u get them i would like to see them in action,because we are looking to get tires for our ranger.

Are you talking about the bugs ore lites?

Im debating.Bugs or lights.I ride alot of rocky stuf and hills and trails so I dont want an allout mud tire.But Im leaning toward the mudlites because the bugs might be to aggressive.Hey southern you have mudlites right?How do they do in the hump?

what ever u do dont get mudlights they suck get some 589's

How do you think the 589s will do in the mud?Also how about in the hills and rocks out there in the hump.I thougt they were an all out mud tire but will consider them

no 589's arnt a full out mud tire thats waht i run on my rubicon and they do good

Ive had 589's and mudlites.the mud lights ride way smoother and pull just as good in the mud if not better.had both of them on my ranger and 300.have yet to get stuck with mudlights but i put the 589's back on and get stuck in the same mud hole i can make it through no problem with the mudlights.

i doono about that it was the other way around with me

Don't get me wrong i like the 589's.I guess i do more trail riding then mudding.mudlights ride way smoother and go through mud just as good imo.

Yeah I dont think I'ev ever seen mudlites outmud 589's lol

I have a 2 sets of 27" for the ranger.one set mudlights and the other 589's.mudlights flote it but the the 589's go straight to the bottom.Plus they bog it down a lot more.

Look, dont be fooled by allot of people on this site. Everyone seems to agree that mudlights suck. They dont. I have a set on mine that I have put through every situation and every terrian execept for snow. They are a good tire. They dont rob power like heaiver tires and they pull pretty good in the mud. The only problem there is is that they are not a full on mud tire. There are plent of better mud tires but few better that will do everything good like the mudlight can. For example an outlaw or vampire will do good in mud but it woudnt be a very good choice for everyday trail riding and stuff like that. The mudlight will do good in the mud and still be great for trails and rocks and whatever else you encounter on the trail. Im getting mudbugs for mine only because I ride allot more mud and I need a more agressive tire then the lights. There probably one of the best do it all tires in my oppinon. Espically considering your getting 27s, the 589's are allot heavier and wont ride as good.

IMO my bi/tri's have done perfect in all the mud I have thrown at them. I have seen vamps in action...good tire but I think the bi/tri's overall outmudded them. As for swamplites all I know is they wear fast, clog up but other than that hang with the mud bugs in the mud.

Finally sombody who agrees with me about the claws lol ;D
Iev seen 589's in mud plenty of times and I'm not really impresed.Their heavy and seem to clog up bad.And as far as I no the vamps have a pretty smooth ride.Another GREAT all around tire is the outlaws MST.

LOL...you guys are funny....It is all about the rider...Unless you know what you are doing there is no tire that is gonna save you.

What he said

the only thing i dont like about mud lites is they clog up WAY to fast,good smooth light weight tire but they do clog up way to fast.if your doing more mudding then anything go with vamps or outlaws,but for more trail riding, id say 589s or mudlights.never used tri/bi claws so i cant comment on them.

You do realize 28" EDL's are one of the heaviest(if not THE) atv tires out there, dont you? They actually have a disclaimer on Interco's website that says something about not running it on stock bikes. They weigh like 28lbs or 32 lbs EACH. Thats alot of f-ing tire for an atv. Traction also will hurt you. As much as you want traction, that is the main cause of fried trannys and broken axles. You have the traction but dont have the power to break it and spin.

I'd go with something a bit lighter if you can.

I have Mudlights. They work pretty damn good for what they are...a light duty mud tire. Besides sucking in reverse, I like them. However, I am 2wd with just 26"s so thats probably why. I bought them because they are the lightest mud tire produced and it defanatley shows. They are good tires with good milage and perform good in all terrains.

If you want to go mudbogging then buy a hardcore mud tire(i.e. Mudzillas or Outlaws). If you want to go trail riding them but a good trail tire(i.e. Mudlights). But dont buy Mudlights and take them through 29.5" Mudzilla ruts and then complain about them sucking because that just makes an opinion pointless.

Not bashing anyone here, just sayin

Mudlites are good for small bikes or people  who dont mud allot but they wont hang with the big boys ;).And I bet edls are THE heaviest tire out their next to the new mud bitches

Well I know this discussion is about tires but anthother thing when your considering what else matters besides tires. I would pick a guy with mudlites that knows what hes doing over someone with no clue and laws. If you know what your doing, have enough ground clearange and enough power to turn your tires, the tire itself is not that big of deal. Anyway it was just a thought.

Very good point you have ;)

yea thats true


i put 29.5 laws on my rubicon today and what a beast it is lol they are my friends tho i only used them to try them out

i can turn them in low gear (low and in 1st gear) but not fast   when i got stuck in thick mud  i didnt even try and spin them just got pulled out but i can usre go alot more places then befor but not as fast and its alot harder on the bike

once i get a pipe,clutch kit and a jet kit im pirtty sure i can turn them  but will run 28's and once i get a bbk(once my rings go out and i get the $.it will be a 550 then ) ill run 29.5 for sure

The original ones were over 40lbs each from what some of the guys over on highlifter posted. They also ride absolutely horrible on hard pack and if you don't know how to drive with them you will not be happy with them. In short they just dig straight down to the bottom. If you ride in bottomless mud they are useless, if you ride in mud with a hard bottom they will find it.

29.5 Outlaws are the best for all out mud they make easy work where most tires (589's, mudbugs, mudlights, bi/tri-claws) struggle or require 4wd to get through. However if you don't have the power to turn them in really thick mud then it sucks having to be pulled out all the time.