ATV Florida Forum

Be advised that the media and officials of the SFWMD have been and will be viewing this post.  They will be all over this topic. For those of us that will be present at the meeting this coming Wed, please withhold any comments you plan to discuss at the public meeting. 



The following is the proposal from the district (SFWMD)  “IF” we agree and the Collier County Commissioners agree.

1.   The District will immediately deed the title of the 628 acres Lake Trafford parcel to the County with the District retaining a construction easement to complete the dredging of the Lake and earthwork associated with the development of the ATV site.  ( Our comments at the meeting :  If the County accepts the deed immediately and there are arsenic levels higher than expected on site, the County will be responsible. Our opinion, the County can say “forget it” and the whole project is dead. And the District will just wipe their hands and say they did their part. What would we get ?  Nothing. )
2.   The District will retain a consultant to design an ATV park similar to the conceptual design developed by the county (IBIS).  ( We saw the design, it’s nice but I think they need our help to make it great. They are willing to work with us in the design)
3.   The District will obtain permits and the District will construct the earthwork consistent with the approved design and applicable required regulatory protection. (Good, no money from the County )
4.   The County will provide management oversite of the design and construction of the site in conjunction with the District. ( Fair )
5.   The County will handle the zoning and comprehensive plan process for the site.
(I hope that this will not become a problem; there are a few residential homes
south of the site. If the residents appose the OHV we will run into wall).
6.   The County will be responsible for the operation of the site once construction is       
completed. ( Good, revenue for the County).
7.   The District will additionally provide a temporary lease 150 acre site more or less 
to the County to operate as an ATV site until the site is constructed. (150 acres is nothing, it’s a joke but it’s something.
•   The site will be open two weekends a month, daylight hours only.
•   The District will provide funding to the County for onsite management and the lease of the land.
•   The County will manage the site.

8.   The County will agree to amend the Memorandum of Understanding between the
State, District and County to identify the Division of Forestry as the Agency responsible for the access and the maintenance of roads as outlined in the agreement, removing the District as a responsible party.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/dennis0993/Trafford.jpg)

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/dennis0993/WideviewTrafford.jpg)

The rest of it looks pretty good but this one statement seems a bit troubling. Why is it only open 2 weekends a month. It seems like it should be open atleast every weekend if not every day.

This is for the temp site only.

The temp site is just a few miles north of the proposed site.

so would the permanant site be open 7 days a week?

I'd love to travel down there to see it once it opens.

Id@

read it again ida only twice on weekends a month????????????? that sucks when full to capacity a traveler like me from miami get there and cant go in byebye

You read the whole post again. It says the temporrary site will only be open two weekends a month.

I was in the meeting with sfwmd and rick b4 this one and unless I misunderstood it was also said for the park once it would be finished cause mr. tears said something about selling that idea to collier county??????????????????

At this time there are NO rules and regulations set on the propose site ( Trafford ) It will be up to the county & Collier Parks & Rec to decide, or whom ever manages the site.  It could be DOF

A private land owner has donated his 150 acres of cow pasture for a temp site mean while trafford (the official site) under goes construction.  The rule of 2 weekends a months applies to the temp site ONLY.

Due to the levels of arsenic ( that are present at trafford )  it could take 2 yrs weather permitting. If not, heavy rain fall can delay the project and it could take 3 to 4 yrs max.

Personally speaking if it takes 3 to 4 yrs, by then I will be living in NC.  Regardless, I will continue to put pressure on the district.

Dam Dennis we are thinking alike me and the wife have been talking about movin and one of my suggestions was NC cool I talking about it still not in concrete bythe way read up on Macs fishing post it is kind funny

Woohoo lets go play in some arsenic!   :ThumbsDown.gif

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no!

Is there a tree on the property?

Nice of the farmer to donate land for atv use. Is he going to be charging? Can not really complain about two weekends a month, it is better than nothing at this point.


articcat :  Mack's Fishing Camp reading....... Grrrrrr.... That crap was pissing me off!!!!