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Title: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 10, 2006, 02:07:47 AM
Demonstration Time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We are making our own invitation. 

Need “ALL” the support we can.  Please try, try your best to attend.

The South Florida Water Management District and the Department of Environmental Protection, are celebrating what they call “Progress in the Picayune”.  These are the two government agencies that banned us from riding in South Golden Gate Estates aka Badluck / Squares in Naples.

For those of you who are not aware of the politics between Collier County and the SFWMD, here is the short story.  They screwed us.  For over 30 years this location has been paradise to outdoorsmen from camping, fishing, buggy riding, dirt bikes and ATVs.
After our soon to be former governor - Jeb Bush, decided to add the location to the Everglades Restoration Project and assigned the SFWMD as part of the project planning our riding rights were over.  The restoration project consists of flooding the location south of I-75 to 41. Shortening the story,  The SFWMD had to purchase the paved roads in the Picayune and S. Golden Gate Estates from Collier County in order to go forward with the project. The SFWMD proposed Collier County an estimated 20 million dollars for the paved roads. The County countered and added to the proposal that the SFWMD set aside or find 640 ACRES for OHV use. This was three years ago, both parties signed a binding contract, meeting after rescheduled meeting the SFWMD that owns thousands of acres in SWFL failed to perform. As strict of a county that Collier is with preserving nature and wildlife, county commissioners acknowledge that OHV has been a tradition in Collier county for most residents.  The commissioners are on our side it’s the SFWMD with the DEP that stabbed us in the back.  If we joined together back then and fought hard as a user group, it wouldn’t got out of control as it did.  Understand, the SFWMD fear us, that’s why they show up at almost every OHV meeting to see what we’re up to. They want portray a good public image because they have screwed up so much in Lee and Collier.  I am pretty sure the media will be out there and the tree huggers.  Just like they do to us we will do to them. Also understand that this project is a cover up, how are they going to preserve wildlife by flooding the place. One person that has been on top of all these lies from the SFWMD is Rick V, a true enthusiast fighting from day one. I say it’s time for us to be heard.

This is the tactics that environmental groups use.  Consider it like hand cuffing our selves to trees.  This may not open Badluck / Squares but they’ll realize that we are not going down without a fight. 

Rick V. aka lswjth2, Cary aka miamigirlrider, and I have been fighting hard with local governments to open OHV areas throughout SFL & SWFL,  we have received very little support from members on this site.  We ask that you please try to attend this demonstration.  A peaceful demonstration in regards to the OHV park that they promised.

Below is all the info and directions to get there, these invitations are not for us but it involves us.  If you are willing to attend please post it.  Sorry the story got long.


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Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: JackL on November 10, 2006, 09:17:47 AM
How are they going to take people on construction tours? On ATV's. :)

See you there. It's been way too long since I've seen the forestry compound.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: lswjth2 on November 10, 2006, 10:07:49 AM
Thrumud,thxs for getting this posted.I tried and tried last night and no luck. Is there anyway you can post this on our friends site's?
www.atvmiaxtreme and northportofforad, Thxs and let's bring down the house on the 29th, It's my understanding the GOVERNOR WILL BE THERE. THIS IS A GREAT CHANCE FOLKS......


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 10, 2006, 11:13:00 AM
Thrumud,thxs for getting this posted.I tried and tried last night and no luck. Is there anyway you can post this on our friends site's?
www.atvmiaxtreme and northportofforad, Thxs and let's bring down the house on the 29th, It's my understanding the GOVERNOR WILL BE THERE. THIS IS A GREAT CHANCE FOLKS......

I will Rick, pass the word.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 10, 2006, 07:00:54 PM
We need some support from Collier and Lee county riders. 


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Mars on November 11, 2006, 11:02:43 PM
I'll be there. I asked for the day off at work.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 12, 2006, 01:00:37 AM
Thanks Mars for your support. I will pm you a few days before to tell you where we're meeting.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Mars on November 12, 2006, 11:20:26 PM
That would be great. I'll do my best to make it.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: MuddFreak77 on November 13, 2006, 03:08:09 PM
I would be there but I have Jury Duty that day    :( :( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 13, 2006, 04:00:09 PM
I would be there but I have Jury Duty that day    :( :( :'( :'(

Darn, wish you could make it.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 450R_Matt on November 14, 2006, 12:38:30 AM
I'll be there.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 14, 2006, 02:02:38 AM
I'll try and rally up all the people I ride with.Count me in!!Are we protesting with signs, or our quads?


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Gato on November 14, 2006, 03:44:11 PM
does anyone know if we trailer our bikes without bringing them off the trailers if we might get ticket for just parking on side of road or do we just protest without the bikes


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: lswjth2 on November 14, 2006, 04:08:25 PM
I will be giving thrumud a "packet of information" for everyone to read and distribute. This will be exposing SFWMD and Fl DEP about all their LIES and how they were supposed to protect our riding in the area and so on. The media will be there and it's my understanding so will Gov. Bush, so this will be a great opportunity to rain on their parade and expose them in front of the public. We really need a good show to pull this through.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Gato on November 14, 2006, 04:39:10 PM
Iswjth2 you dont know me but Im new to the site but I met thrumud and think it is a good Idea if we can try something to get more dealers to participate in some of these things what if we can or if someone knows a way to try and see if you as a customer in search of a new bike or quad dont buy from a dealer in a county that opted out of the law go to a county that hasnt like Dade now I know not everyone can take such a ride but I think I can talk to the owner of a local dealer here call World Honda his name is james  cool guy if your looking for a new honda he shipped 2 dirt bikes for a customer for free just because he thought he had both in stock and the guy came down from Port St. Lucie and he only had 1 he is real good people and has good deals with/without service plans. But this is only an idea to get more dealer participation but if anyone know a better way please share it cause we need all the help we can get.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: lswjth2 on November 14, 2006, 04:50:26 PM
Thrumud knows a couple of the local dealers, im sure he has/will contact them. I will stop by cypress cycle tommorrow,they are a repair shop here in naples and have been very supportive. I am sure they will put out a flyer like they have before and inform their customers. spread the word as best you can....


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Gato on November 14, 2006, 07:32:01 PM
I will be giving thrumud a "packet of information" for everyone to read and distribute. This will be exposing SFWMD and Fl DEP about all their LIES and how they were supposed to protect our riding in the area and so on. The media will be there and it's my understanding so will Gov. Bush, so this will be a great opportunity to rain on their parade and expose them in front of the public. We really need a good show to pull this through.
Thrumud when you get the packet from Iswjth2 you can foward it to me I will distribute it to the local dealers I can get to cause I'm on the road all day so I can swing into any I come across you can email me at Gorda1072@hotmail.com see what we can do!


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 14, 2006, 11:24:32 PM
I will be giving thrumud a "packet of information" for everyone to read and distribute. This will be exposing SFWMD and Fl DEP about all their LIES and how they were supposed to protect our riding in the area and so on. The media will be there and it's my understanding so will Gov. Bush, so this will be a great opportunity to rain on their parade and expose them in front of the public. We really need a good show to pull this through.
Thrumud when you get the packet from Iswjth2 you can foward it to me I will distribute it to the local dealers I can get to cause I'm on the road all day so I can swing into any I come across you can email me at Gorda1072@hotmail.com see what we can do!

I will articat, I should meet with Rick this coming week.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 14, 2006, 11:25:03 PM
Bump need more support !


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 15, 2006, 08:25:54 PM
bump again


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 21, 2006, 11:27:25 AM
Anyone willing to join me ?  Looks like I am the only one showing up at this time.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: st577 on November 21, 2006, 12:08:47 PM
I will try to attend I work two jobs so I will have to plan ahead. Thanks for the info I will pass it along.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: lswjth2 on November 21, 2006, 12:20:26 PM
Folks, if you can make it, take a 3x3 cardboard sign so you can spell CERP, then under each letter wriote the appropiatew words
Cancel,Everyones,Recreational,Plans...Please this is for the benefit of us all....


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Gato on November 21, 2006, 08:26:36 PM
Im going but need help getting there form Miami


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 21, 2006, 09:07:48 PM
You need to put more info.What exactly are we doing?How long will we be there?Are we walking around the entrance?Where are we parking?


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: lswjth2 on November 21, 2006, 09:15:19 PM
We will be protesting against SFWMD for not honoring the 640 acre agreement,closing down the Picayune,lying about their dealings,allowing builders to build in the middle of the "restoration"area, but not the atv'rs. I just gave thrumud a "packet of information" to pass around. I asked that he gives one to the media. The real SFWMD will be exposed and all their lies. As for directions, scroll to the first page of this posting, and the directions are on the flyer that thrumud posted. Give them hell folks, and you can park at the picnic area where people will be meeting.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 22, 2006, 10:50:09 AM
I live in St.Pete.If anyone wants to carpool , call me.Chino-(727)204-0883


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 26, 2006, 01:10:09 PM
I want to seriously know if anyone is going.I'm not going if noone on this site cares about our riding area's!!
 I went to two spots yesterday; one in Sarasota, and one in Englewood.Both were shut down and police said no more warning.Next time will be court dates issued.If noone cars , then I may go back to street!!


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: indianjoe on November 26, 2006, 01:47:47 PM
Always the work week???? ??? ??? ??? ???I hope some can get the day off.....I'm stuck this week


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: JackL on November 26, 2006, 02:26:45 PM
So I guess we aren't having a ride after this protest.
I'm wondering if I will even be able to get over the bridge with
my bike on the back.


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 26, 2006, 05:48:53 PM
I was told it's your option to bring your ride or not.I don't  know if we'll be able to ride or not.The reason we're going is to protest and fight for more riding land.Please, come and show your support and bring anyone you know that rides!!


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: Thrumud on November 27, 2006, 02:21:21 PM
You need to put more info.What exactly are we doing?How long will we be there?Are we walking around the entrance?Where are we parking?

Read new topic


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 450R_Matt on November 27, 2006, 09:52:13 PM
Folks, if you can make it, take a 3x3 cardboard sign so you can spell CERP, then under each letter wriote the appropiatew words
Cancel,Everyones,Recreational,Plans...Please this is for the benefit of us all....

Do we all need this sign? I was going to load up all my quads on the trailor and bring them along for looks... 8)


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: lswjth2 on November 28, 2006, 06:27:08 AM
Here's an article in the NAples daily news, your chance to be heard.......

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2006/nov/28/road_riders_plan_protest_state_event/?local_news


Title: Re: Attention SWFL & SFL riders "DEMONSTRATION TIME" BADLUCK / SQUARES
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on November 28, 2006, 10:50:07 AM
I'm going.I'm even bringing my lil girl and her power wheels quad!!