Title: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 08:56:13 PM i bought a brand new quad.."BMX LG 150cc" and i put it together,well put the tires and stuff like that on got gas and i've been trying to start it but it wont stay on..when it starts it stays on for about 2 seconds then just shuts off..can anyone help a girl in need ;)
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: klutchbuster400 on October 14, 2006, 09:10:00 PM i bought a brand new quad.."BMX LG 150cc" and i put it together,well put the tires and stuff like that on got gas and i've been trying to start it but it wont stay on..when it starts it stays on for about 2 seconds then just shuts off..can anyone help a girl in need ;) isnt that one of those chinese quads? That would be the first mistake.Carb problems maybe? Petc@ck has the arrow to the gas? Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 09:17:10 PM LoL umm i dont think its chinese..heres the link to it
http://www.legionglobal.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=190 Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: trx250kid on October 14, 2006, 09:36:57 PM is the gas on
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 09:45:39 PM umm yeah lol..sorry i know i sound really pathetic but this is my first quad so i know nothing about um,i ride my friends and i never knew anything about them..but the gas is already automatically on right?? LOL,i put gas in the gas tank,the instruction kit doesnt explain anything and there tech support number is closed for the weekend..
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: klutchbuster400 on October 14, 2006, 09:47:44 PM Looks like a chinese brand, You really should stikc to japanese(yamaha, suzuki, etc.)
It says warranty added, I'd give them a call monday. Under the gastank, their should be a little lever type thing, with an arror on one side, point that arrow to where it says on ;) Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 09:53:35 PM Oh yea i turned it on...sorry didnt know what you meant at first and it looks like a chinese brand??LOL great..hopefully it will last for a little bit,like i said its my first one...so if i wreck it trying to get crazy then o well :P but one of my friends are coming over tomorrow to look at it i just hope everything goes good..thanks!!
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: FordForever on October 14, 2006, 10:09:44 PM Did you get it fixed?
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 14, 2006, 10:09:58 PM 1) Make sure you petcock is turned to on or reserve.
2) Try starting it with your choke on. 3) Make sure your idle adjustment screw is turned to the proper position. Those are the first three simple things you can do. When you say it stays on for a few seconds, does it bog out and go off, or only when you rev it? When you start it, can you rev it at all? Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 10:19:04 PM no didnt get if fixed yet and this is what happens..when i start it i press the gas a little bit and it bogs out,it wont rev up or anything it just dies.. ill try those three things,one of my girlfriends is trying to help me with it but we cant even find the choke LOL..i dont know if it has one..like i said i know nothing about quads but im trying to figure it out..i might need one of my guy friends to come over tomorrow to fix it because us girls cant i guess...thanks for helping guys
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 14, 2006, 10:28:21 PM That model has an autochoke. You need to make sure the autochoke is on, and that the autochoke wire is connected.
Do you have the manual? That will save me a lot of typing. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 10:34:06 PM ok i have a manuel BUT it doesnt explain anything like that in there,it doesnt show where anything is,it explains stuff about the gas tank,the brakes and stuff like that i read the whole thing it doesnt mention anything about the choke so i dont know where to look for the wire lol...if i had a manuel that explained that to me i could figure it out..sucks :(
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 14, 2006, 10:52:21 PM When you say YOU PUT IT TOGETHER, I'm gonna assume you didn't have to hook up any wires, so we'll assume that your autochoke is on for now.
1) Switch your petcock (the fuel lever thingy) to reserve. 2) Pump your thumb throttle about 5 times to get some gas in the bowl. 3) When you start it, feather the thumb throttle to see if it is getting any fuel flow. 4) You might have to do this numerous times since it's a 4 stroke, and hasn't been started since shipping. Make sure you're on the hand break so it doesn't take off on you, seeing how it's engineered without a neutral and is fully automatic. I don't want you lunging through your garage door. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: Jenapher27 on October 14, 2006, 11:08:51 PM i didnt have to really hook up any wires except for the battery and the lights and i put the tires on..it was shipped to me in a box..ok ill try the reserve,i had it on normal but ill try that right now..
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: dnigels on October 15, 2006, 01:03:57 AM Where do you live Jenapher? If you are in Palm Beach County I could come over and try my hand at it!
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: MachineDog on October 15, 2006, 01:05:40 AM This is why I hate chinese quads.. when will people learn that you get what you pay for? We have a 50cc honda dirtbike that's never broken down, starts first kick every time.. and it hauls me and my little bro with the seriously wide-ratio 3-speed around.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 15, 2006, 09:21:44 AM This is why I hate chinese quads.. when will people learn that you get what you pay for? We have a 50cc honda dirtbike that's never broken down, starts first kick every time.. and it hauls me and my little bro with the seriously wide-ratio 3-speed around. This is why I hate any Chinesse/Indian/Tiwanesse/Phillipine products that are "clones" or "knock offs". They're inferior quality, and are difficult to get parts for. The cheap labor allows them to charge cheap prices, then they flood the market with crappy products, and go out of business 5 years down the road, and change the name of the company, and flood the market with more crappy products. It sucks for the consumer. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: eldiablo64 on October 15, 2006, 09:42:59 AM did you check the oil They usually don't ship stuff like lawn mowers and such with oil in them I don't know about quads though
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: MachineDog on October 15, 2006, 09:45:57 AM It'd still crank without oil. Good idea though. Are you getting a spark? Personally, I'd bring it back and ask for a refund. Then you can go to any brand name you've actually heard of that you know will give good service and build good reliable quads. Examples are honda, kawasaki, suzuki, polaris, yamaha.. those are the main ones I can think of. It'll cost a bit more, but you'll most likely never have problems like this.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 15, 2006, 10:08:10 AM Since she says it's running for a few seconds, it's most likely a fuel air mixture issue with the likely culprit being a choke issue, as this particular model has the automatic plunger type choke.
Could also be restricted fuel flow via the petcock diaphragm. Then less likely but possible, the air flow screw/idle scew. Then the last place to check is the spark plug if it's a rich/lean condition. But, I'd follow machine dog's advice..return that sucker, get your money back and get a better brand. Besides, you'll get tired of a 150cc quad in a hurry. You can find some good deals on a used quad with mods in the FOR SALE section. Chino's quad is an unbelievable deal. Plus you know he takes care of his, not to mention the mods. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: CABLEGUY1 on October 15, 2006, 12:03:33 PM Hey Jenapher 27 first off welcome to the site. Hopefully you will have fun riding and become a regular member. It's most likely something simple that's keeping it from staying on. You may have the brake handle in the lock position and when you start the bike and give it gas it boggs down and stalls because it's to cold to take the gas without warming up a little.If it will idle then let it do that for at least a minute before trying to give it gas. If that doesn't work then try this. Turn the gas lever "petcock"to the off position.Disconnect the fuel line from the output of the petcock. Now hold an empty can under the petcock and turn the petcock to the on position and see if it allows fuel to flow thru it. If it does then you just eliminated it being a fuel issue and if it runs for a couple seconds then it wouldn't be a spark issue. Let me know if this doesn't work and I will guide you further. Congratulations on your first quad. Don't let the negative comments spoil the excitement of your first quad. That quad will be fine for you to learn on. Sure a name brand is better but it's also more than double the price. That's a nice looking bike at a great price.I'm sure it's something simple so don't get discouraged. Good luck and congratulations.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: LeBlanc Outdoors on October 16, 2006, 08:20:54 AM This is why I HATE DROPSHIPPERS of Chinese or any quad!!! If your big 4 quad came in a crate not assembled many of you would be having the same or similar problems.
1. Check the fuel lines, many times they droop where fuel can't gravity feed. 2. Check the kill switch on the handlebar, use a voltmeter and check for continuity. 3. Check the float on the carb, its the screw on the bottom, the bowl should be full of fuel. 4. Electric chokes on these bikes aren't chokes at all, they allow extra fuel @ low speed and do malfunction, check input with your voltmeter and clean with carb cleaner. 5. This one is the most important, BUY ANY QUAD from an authorized dealer that will set up the quad, test it then stand behind it with an appropriate warranty!!! DROPSHIPPERS are in thr business for the QUICK BUCK and don't give a flip about you, only your money! I agree there are many inferior Chinese quads out there, but also some decent ones for the money. I'm not just saying this because I sell them, as you can see by my sig. I have several myself. All are reliable, all start, and all give my family hours of fun and enjoyment. The 250 we have is made by a company in joint venture with Suzuki, and Suzuki set up their assembly line process etc. Many of the parts you have on your big 4 quad are made in China. If you don't have good basic mechanical abilities, and the time to research the company your buying from, SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY and Buy from a dealer that sets the bike up for you, when we set up a bike we change the plug to an NGK, replace the rubber gas lines with quality ones, add a fuel filter, change out the shipping oil, check and tighten all bolts using loctite, charge the battery overnight using a trickle charger, then start and test the engine adjusting the carb and/or the valves if necessary. Anyone assembling one of these ATV's should follow a similar set up. If your budget doesn't allow for a name brand new bike consider a used one. If you do have mechanical abilities some of the Chinese bikes are a great money saver but will require extra maintenence. Good Luck Jenapher, feel free to PM if you still have issues. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: MachineDog on October 16, 2006, 11:49:27 AM Since she says it's running for a few seconds, it's most likely a fuel air mixture issue with the likely culprit being a choke issue, as this particular model has the automatic plunger type choke. Could also be restricted fuel flow via the petcock diaphragm. Then less likely but possible, the air flow screw/idle scew. Then the last place to check is the spark plug if it's a rich/lean condition. But, I'd follow machine dog's advice..return that sucker, get your money back and get a better brand. Besides, you'll get tired of a 150cc quad in a hurry. You can find some good deals on a used quad with mods in the FOR SALE section. Chino's quad is an unbelievable deal. Plus you know he takes care of his, not to mention the mods. Heck, didn't think of that. You could buy a used good brand name quad for around the same price and as long as it's well taken care of it'll work a whole lot better. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 16, 2006, 06:12:22 PM I hope she tells us what the fix was. I'd like to know for future reference.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: LeBlanc Outdoors on October 16, 2006, 09:12:43 PM As you were asked before jenapher, we don't know where your at. If you are near the Ocala/Dunnellon area, PM me, I hate the name these dropshippers give those of us who try hard to deliver a quality product from the Chinese market. I will be happy to either get your atv running or tell you what parts are defective, at no charge to you, if you can get your bike to me. Good Luck at any rate, as you can tell many of us on the site are willing to help if needed.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 16, 2006, 09:21:55 PM Since this is a chinesee bike, I want to make sure you removed the fortune from inside the air filter.
She does know about the fortune right? Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: LeBlanc Outdoors on October 16, 2006, 10:24:01 PM Never thought of that, does she know of the right mixture of soy sauce and msg with her gasoline?
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 16, 2006, 10:36:30 PM The problem with the chinesse bikes is, you can ride all day, then a half hour later, you want to ride again.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: yunt2ride on October 17, 2006, 01:27:21 PM I own one of these. The rear end is tore up and it looks like it may be a hydrolic pump style differential. The sprocket spins but it goes nowhere. I will never buy an off brand again. I don't have a clue where to begin fixing it but I gotta do it somehow. Then its getting sold cheap.
Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: MuddFreak77 on October 17, 2006, 02:34:25 PM The problem with the chinesse bikes is, you can ride all day, then a half hour later, you want to ride again. LMFAO Rico... That is great Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: UncleRico on October 17, 2006, 04:35:48 PM I own one of these. The rear end is tore up and it looks like it may be a hydrolic pump style differential. The sprocket spins but it goes nowhere. I will never buy an off brand again. I don't have a clue where to begin fixing it but I gotta do it somehow. Then its getting sold cheap. I bet you didn't think it was gonna cost you this much when they past the free trade agreement. Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: yunt2ride on October 17, 2006, 05:29:19 PM I own one of these. The rear end is tore up and it looks like it may be a hydrolic pump style differential. The sprocket spins but it goes nowhere. I will never buy an off brand again. I don't have a clue where to begin fixing it but I gotta do it somehow. Then its getting sold cheap. I bet you didn't think it was gonna cost you this much when they past the free trade agreement. LMAO.........At least I bought it used so I don't have full money in it. LOL Title: Re: Pls Help..Brand New Quad Won't Stay On Post by: LeBlanc Outdoors on October 18, 2006, 08:41:07 PM Tony shoot me a PM with the make and model and I'll send you the tech specs, and a game plan. Sent you a PM with my cell# Jeff
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