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Title: Fl. running behind Post by: maricat on October 01, 2006, 12:43:16 PM Sad to say but that`s the reason why we don`t ride in Florida anymore.We got tired of all the woops and so many restrictions.Once you ride up north you don`t want to ride in Florida again.We started with one atv ,3 years ago ,and know we have a group of about 30 atv`s and because of the inconviniences that we encountered in Florida we decided to travel out of Florida and you will be surprised of how many people are doing the same thing!We haved enjoyed the trail systems of Hatfield McCoy/West Virginia,Durhamtown and Broad River/Georgia,Harlan county/Kentucky and Coal creek Tenn. They have one or two way trails, THERE ARE NO WOOPS!. They have lots of accomodations like cabins,houses, and motels. In West Virginia and Kentucky you are allowed to ride your atv in town like going to the grocery stores,fast food restaurants,and gas stations etc. It`s an unique experience that you enjoy with your family and friends.Don`t get me wrong we love Florida and we wish that some day we will have a hundred plus miles of trail systems like the ones we have visited in the past few years ,so we wouldn`t have had to travel so far and spent the money in other states. As you all know this fun sport is increasing in a very fast rate and other states are taking advantage of it .This is a good opportunity for Fl. to increase tourism and they are running behind!Be safe and ride responsible!
Maricat (Tampa) Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: tat2mike on October 01, 2006, 01:30:45 PM great post ;D
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: AmericanRobster on December 17, 2006, 12:13:47 PM I agree!
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: qt314nfla on December 17, 2006, 12:23:09 PM Very true and very well put!
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Gato on December 17, 2006, 04:37:11 PM you practically took the words out of evryones mouth Im a lil old for this freekn illegal riding but sometimes it is the only way to enjoy my bike I have found that the cops are less strict on us when we dont run and I have personally ridden by an officer with 6 or more bikes stopped and by luck I happen to have been going slow and the officer not even give me a second look and I was parked not more than 50 yards after the officer just somethimg you guys should know
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 17, 2006, 04:51:44 PM Some may already know, but one of the things I learned from the board meeting of ONFA Friday night was that grooming of the trails started Friday morning,,,,they got 3 miles done in between Lake Delancy campground and Rodman Dam pit.
The grooming that is being done at the moment is not with the piece of equipment that is on order because it has not yet arrived(due in about a month) but with a bulldozer of sort, so it is not going very fast, but it has started. In the meeting I pointed out how many people from this site are willing to drive many hours and pay a hefty sum just to ride on the comparativly small area at Durhamtown Plantation just because the trails are groomed,,,,,to this, someone high up with the forestry service(not sure if they want me to mention their name) said "I want Ocala to have a world-class trail system, and we are working on it." I'm finally excited about the possibilities and progress of Ocala. Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: tony pitts on December 17, 2006, 05:24:01 PM I was out at big scrubb today and had a great time. until i found out you are no longer aloud to ride on the side of the pipe line. the bad thing about all of this trail system is they are taking away alot of our riding areas and for what reason. I have heard so many different storys i dont even think the rangers know what is going on. the one thing im really mad at is the fact that the hunters will be able to use these woods with there 4x4 trucks that are also allterrain vehicles and do a lot more damage to the woods than our sport quads.im sorry but i also pay taxes. and should be aloud to use the forrest to enjoy my sport. and when are they going to realize the revenue that could be brought to ocala.just look at hatfield and mccoy and what atv has done for there community.
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: 4fittyr on December 17, 2006, 06:04:06 PM BLUE HAIR STATE THEY CAN DEVELOP LAND FOR HOMESITES AND GOLF COURSES MOST OF THE TIME 2 IN ONE COMMUNITY WITHOUT THEM DAM TREE HUGGERS AND POLITICAL A$$ES GETTING INVOLVED LEARN TO DEAL WITH WHOOPS CAUSE ITS THE ONLY RIDING IN FL
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: 1FasterBlaster on December 18, 2006, 12:54:23 AM I already had thoughts of moving to Virginia.If there is riding up there like you say, it's a good possibility I will.I'm sick of trying to find places to ride in Florida.And there doesn't seem to be a lot of people willing to protest here either!!
I drive up to Virginia at least twice a year, next time, maybe I'll take my quad.Is there a website on the Hatfield trails in West Virginia? Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: FIVE-O on December 18, 2006, 01:40:29 AM Is there a website on the Hatfield trails in West Virginia? www.trailsheaven.com Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: viper on December 18, 2006, 06:23:29 AM Some may already know, but one of the things I learned from the board meeting of ONFA Friday night was that grooming of the trails started Friday morning,,,,they got 3 miles done in between Lake Delancy campground and Rodman Dam pit. The grooming that is being done at the moment is not with the piece of equipment that is on order because it has not yet arrived(due in about a month) but with a bulldozer of sort, so it is not going very fast, but it has started. In the meeting I pointed out how many people from this site are willing to drive many hours and pay a hefty sum just to ride on the comparativly small area at Durhamtown Plantation just because the trails are groomed,,,,,to this, someone high up with the forestry service(not sure if they want me to mention their name) said "I want Ocala to have a world-class trail system, and we are working on it." I'm finally excited about the possibilities and progress of Ocala. Id@ You know man, Ocala has a whole lot to learn about being a world-class trail system, it will never happen. Like ride out west for a while and you will like see what world class trail systems are man. Ya all may groom them their trails, but it won't keep the people from going off the trails. A world class trail system, like man with speed limits and with places to view nature, that doesn't sound like a world class trails system man. Plus like you may want to charge me for using something that I already pay for, like how fair is that. I have also like man seen research where wildlaw is keeping an eye on the Ocala. Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: stacktester on December 18, 2006, 06:55:06 AM Dude, you're "like" "like" "like" "like" killing me with the likes. Be glad there is some place to ride. Believe me, Florida is the last place on earth that needs revenue from tourist. Somebody mentioned that West, VA is using the Hatfield McCoy trails to draw tourism. Florida has enough attractions believe me that they don't need an atv venue to keep things going. The sport is growing so rapidly and I think we need to work with the state and anybody who wants to provide a riding area instead of constantly knocking it.
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 18, 2006, 08:30:40 AM Some may already know, but one of the things I learned from the board meeting of ONFA Friday night was that grooming of the trails started Friday morning,,,,they got 3 miles done in between Lake Delancy campground and Rodman Dam pit. The grooming that is being done at the moment is not with the piece of equipment that is on order because it has not yet arrived(due in about a month) but with a bulldozer of sort, so it is not going very fast, but it has started. In the meeting I pointed out how many people from this site are willing to drive many hours and pay a hefty sum just to ride on the comparativly small area at Durhamtown Plantation just because the trails are groomed,,,,,to this, someone high up with the forestry service(not sure if they want me to mention their name) said "I want Ocala to have a world-class trail system, and we are working on it." I'm finally excited about the possibilities and progress of Ocala. Id@ You know man, Ocala has a whole lot to learn about being a world-class trail system, it will never happen. Like ride out west for a while and you will like see what world class trail systems are man. Ya all may groom them their trails, but it won't keep the people from going off the trails. A world class trail system, like man with speed limits and with places to view nature, that doesn't sound like a world class trails system man. Plus like you may want to charge me for using something that I already pay for, like how fair is that. I have also like man seen research where wildlaw is keeping an eye on the Ocala. thanks for you support, I'm glad there are so many positive voices out there,,,if it weren't for shining examples of humanity like you, I might have to up and move to Romania where people are truely free to do what they want. Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: 1FasterBlaster on December 18, 2006, 11:55:17 PM I support the riding also.I've shown up at protest with only four to five other members showed up.I know this state has attractions to bring in revenue, but that doesn't include riding area's; they could probably care less about us.I see a long battle ahead.I'll stay a rider and always be willing to support the cause.I love to ride!!
Hey Chillin, you need to come down to Avon and ride with us. Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: stacktester on December 19, 2006, 12:28:33 AM Ida,
I hope you're not mad at me joking this guy with the "likes". He got a little excited lol. I support any riding organization out there and hope for more riding areas to be developed. I wish we had a Durhamtown or Hatfield type area to ride. I see Ocala as a great venue but I am worried if it gets too much use and that becomes a problem. The state or Nat'l gov. owes us nothing and we need to be glad for what we are getting, but we also need to press forward for more areas. I'm glad we have people like grizzly bear who spends countless hours (his own time that he's not being paid for) working on this trail system. Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: ladyinpink on December 19, 2006, 06:07:33 AM This lady is confused - what does tourism have to do with grooming the trails?? Ya'll I am glad that there is some place to ride, at least for the time being. But I see in the near future the forest won't have a place to ride.
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 19, 2006, 08:14:56 AM Ida, I hope you're not mad at me joking this guy with the "likes". He got a little excited lol. I support any riding organization out there and hope for more riding areas to be developed. I wish we had a Durhamtown or Hatfield type area to ride. I see Ocala as a great venue but I am worried if it gets too much use and that becomes a problem. The state or Nat'l gov. owes us nothing and we need to be glad for what we are getting, but we also need to press forward for more areas. I'm glad we have people like grizzly bear who spends countless hours (his own time that he's not being paid for) working on this trail system. no dude, he's like killing me like really bad and all man, cause I'm like hurting man. Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: lisa on December 19, 2006, 03:07:21 PM I think the real subject line is not being addressed here. Florida is not running behind, but right on schedule. Ya'll keep missing the real agenda for the trails, forests, parks and state lands. The enviros want it all, want to control what you can and can't do on lands ya'll pay for!
There are a couple of things I keep telling ya'll, but only a few are listening. One of those things is the The Wildlands Project (http://www.twp.org) The folks behind this don't want you in "their" forest. The current Forestry Management has shown that it agrees with this idea. ONFA, and others, feel we should "work with" government. These folks are either extremely niave, or think they will be able to have acess for their cooperation that we, the rest of the world, won't have. Which means they should not be speaking for you yet because of their innocence, or should not be speaking for you at all because of their selfishness. I have never minced words in this fight. The greenies have taken over so completely that there is no time to mince words. I have seen the fight that the Second Amendment folks have put up; and have seen them win back their rights. They didn't do it by compromising with the government. The folks who fought the BLM out west didn't compromise with the government either, and they won as well. While I don't condone how they won, I understand that they did what they had to do to get the BLM to start listening to them, and do applaud them. They didn't compromise either btw. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, I have an off-topic question for the ONFA folks. Have you decided what you are going to do about the Florida Black Bear Scenic Byway using your name as an example of groups that will partner with the Byway? Officially Mr. Thompson was stating that ONFA won't have anything to do with the Byway, yet failed to show up at the meeting in Dec. to have their name removed from the Corridor Management Plan. If ONFA is not removed from the Corridor Management Plan, that means that they do agree with the Byway and will be partnering with them.....interesting to see how this turns out.... Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: viper on December 19, 2006, 03:48:58 PM Interesting --- where will the chips fall, who are our friends and who is the enemy. Will the Pres of the ONFA step up and answer such questions. UUUhhhmmm ...
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 19, 2006, 08:37:15 PM Interesting --- where will the chips fall, who are our friends and who is the enemy. Will the Pres of the ONFA step up and answer such questions. UUUhhhmmm ... funny, first post I've seen without a bunch of "like"s from you,,,,slipping on your second identity? Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 19, 2006, 08:38:49 PM I think the real subject line is not being addressed here. Florida is not running behind, but right on schedule. Ya'll keep missing the real agenda for the trails, forests, parks and state lands. The enviros want it all, want to control what you can and can't do on lands ya'll pay for! There are a couple of things I keep telling ya'll, but only a few are listening. One of those things is the The Wildlands Project ([url]http://www.twp.org[/url]) The folks behind this don't want you in "their" forest. The current Forestry Management has shown that it agrees with this idea. ONFA, and others, feel we should "work with" government. These folks are either extremely niave, or think they will be able to have acess for their cooperation that we, the rest of the world, won't have. Which means they should not be speaking for you yet because of their innocence, or should not be speaking for you at all because of their selfishness. I have never minced words in this fight. The greenies have taken over so completely that there is no time to mince words. I have seen the fight that the Second Amendment folks have put up; and have seen them win back their rights. They didn't do it by compromising with the government. The folks who fought the BLM out west didn't compromise with the government either, and they won as well. While I don't condone how they won, I understand that they did what they had to do to get the BLM to start listening to them, and do applaud them. They didn't compromise either btw. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, I have an off-topic question for the ONFA folks. Have you decided what you are going to do about the Florida Black Bear Scenic Byway using your name as an example of groups that will partner with the Byway? Officially Mr. Thompson was stating that ONFA won't have anything to do with the Byway, yet failed to show up at the meeting in Dec. to have their name removed from the Corridor Management Plan. If ONFA is not removed from the Corridor Management Plan, that means that they do agree with the Byway and will be partnering with them.....interesting to see how this turns out.... you pose a good question Lisa and one I think needs to be posed to the board. Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: viper on December 20, 2006, 05:41:43 AM No Ida-Man nothing at all to hide, it seems like there are some interesting questions being asked. Every one seems to know how slow government is, interesting how long this will take.
Second identity ?????? Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Stewards on December 20, 2006, 08:22:58 AM This will back up what Lisa is saying -- that links says it all
http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,20195.0.html Stewards of the Land Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 20, 2006, 01:36:43 PM it is an interesting question, and the board of ONFA is being polled right now.
Since the board members all live in different areas, it is difficult to get us all together on a whim, but we are in contact via email/phone. Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Mulchman on December 20, 2006, 03:50:18 PM Hey Ida, how do you get to the Lake Delancy Campground and Rodman Dam Pit area? I am wanting to take the family there New Year's week-end to do some riding. I will be coming from Winter Haven, Polk county. Also, do you think my youngest daughter's atv will make it, it is one of those mini 50's with the small tires. Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Ida_Mann on December 20, 2006, 04:06:41 PM on the trails she will be fine, but as far as the Rodman pit, the little tires just sink if you ever stop moving.
I'm not the best person to give directions out there because I'm not as familiar with that end of the forest as others are,,,,I'm sure someone will be along soon. Id@ Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Mulchman on December 20, 2006, 04:27:41 PM Thanks for the quick reply. Been wanting to take the family out for a long while. The kids should have a blast at the dam and LAke Delancy. Best wishes to you and yours. Happy Holidays Ida.
Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: JR on December 21, 2006, 07:34:01 AM Mulchman:
I would suggest from Winter Haven, either take 33 to 19 in groveland, or 27 to 19 and when on HWY 19 proceed north through the Ocala National Forest to the northern most end ( after you pass through the Salt Springs community) about 3 miles on your left you will see forest road 75. 75 will take you to Lake Delancy campgrounds and trail head area. I hope this is some help Title: Re: Fl. running behind Post by: Mulchman on December 21, 2006, 03:46:24 PM Exactly what I needed to Know. Thank you very much JR. Best wishes to you and yours. Merry Christmas.
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