ATV Florida Forum

General => Where to Ride? => Topic started by: jocolo on September 19, 2006, 08:07:47 PM



Title: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jocolo on September 19, 2006, 08:07:47 PM
Next week in Boggy Creek Rd.

http://floridatrailriders.org/flyer/QS02_CFTR_QS_092306.pdf (http://floridatrailriders.org/flyer/QS02_CFTR_QS_092306.pdf)



Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: cubnfrank on September 19, 2006, 08:27:16 PM
Im in, I'll see you there :)


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 19, 2006, 08:42:22 PM
About 6 of us are going up Friday night. See you Saturday morning at sign-up fella's


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Hawgin4x4 on September 19, 2006, 08:59:14 PM
does anyone ever run raptors in these races?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 19, 2006, 09:04:23 PM
does anyone ever run raptors in these races?

Yes, but thay aren't popular like they were in 01 and 02.

I will be there Saturday AM. See you all at sign up or the line.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jocolo on September 19, 2006, 11:40:01 PM
There will be another one next month, I might make that one, The one this past Sat. ( for bikes) was very muddy, $10 buck per car no matter how many in the car


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jujulo700R on September 20, 2006, 01:17:40 AM
I'll be going out for the fun run on Sunday to see if I like it. It should be fun!


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: khooping on September 20, 2006, 10:19:44 PM
Check this video out.  This is from the bike race this past weekend where the quad scramble is going to be.  This is a single lap.....runs for 25 min.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4485154207755636536&hl=en[/URL


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Chillinthemost on September 20, 2006, 10:57:06 PM
I'll be there, allthough from what I've heard its not your typical XC course. I like it tight and technical but this track is open and fast. We'll see.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jujulo700R on September 20, 2006, 11:21:52 PM
From what I see, several parts of the course doesn't look to quad friendly. Maybe it is just me. :dunno.gif


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: svtbolt04 on September 20, 2006, 11:51:05 PM
The video he posted was from the sunday race.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Fox17 on September 21, 2006, 10:08:16 AM
isnt it the same course?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 21, 2006, 11:49:19 AM
They might use some of the same course, but not all of it. They ususally make it tighter in spots for the dirt bikes.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: LTR450 994 on September 21, 2006, 02:43:43 PM
that looks like fun, can anyone just show up pay and race or do you need to be registerd first or something.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 21, 2006, 03:14:07 PM
Yes, you caqn just show up and race. You will need the following
Helmet, boots, gloves and goggle

You will also need

FTR membership........................$50
transponder for scoring...............$20
Racing fee................................$40
gate fee...................................$10

Plus you will need numbers and maybe a backgrond color to match you class. That stuff can be purchased at the race. You go once and you will be hooked.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jujulo700R on September 21, 2006, 03:43:59 PM
How many laps do you have to run for the race?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 21, 2006, 03:46:05 PM
As many as you can in 2 hours.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Ida_Mann on September 24, 2006, 08:16:51 AM
You know, I certainly wouldn't mind trying this out, but $130 to try it out?

That's what it costs for me to go to ONF for two weekends!

Id@


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 24, 2006, 11:22:03 AM
Hey guys! Here are some pictures of what it was like around the pits and what-not. Here are some videos of a couple of starts.
Ida, today was a fun run where you could have tried it out for $25 and ride all day instead of 2 hrs.
http://www.floridaquadriders.com/public_html/message_board/showthread.php?p=7182#post7182


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jujulo700R on September 24, 2006, 05:05:28 PM
You know, I certainly wouldn't mind trying this out, but $130 to try it out?

That's what it costs for me to go to ONF for two weekends!

Id@

I went to the fun run on Sunday as well and one time around was all I needed. That course beat me and my buddy up so bad that we thought we were being punished for something we had done in our past..lol. If your bike is not hooked up with some quality suspension I don't think many would enjoy it. Put it this way, if you think Croom is bad because of all the whoops, take one ride on that FTR course and you will think Croom is the best place on Earth! 


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: cubnfrank on September 24, 2006, 05:22:15 PM
LOL, Fun Run. Thats no fun on that course. That course was beat up bad after 2 weekends in a row of scrambles. I can't ever complain about Croom being whopped up and tough to ride. I made it 4 laps in my race. Im paying for it today. But I'll be at the next quad scramble :)


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: digginfool on September 24, 2006, 06:48:50 PM
Man, all I can say is THANK YOU for being honest.  I ran on Saturday and even though I could have kept going, I said to myself that this was not even remotely fun.  The course beat the holy living hell out of me.  One lap and I said there was no reason to keep going.  To my own credit, I passed 7 guys and was passed by 4 but this old soul wasn't going to keep that pace much longer and I couldn't see any reason to beat myself up anymore than I already had.  To you A class riders that were still hauling ass while I was rolling over... my hat's off to you!  I did talk to an AA rider that quite after 2 laps (his quad broke).  He had run during the HS last Saturday and said the course was really nice then but yesterday it just plain sucked.  I couldn't agree more.  Looking forward to the next race, though.  I really need to start exercising my forearms more.  They were so pumped I couldn't hardly work the throttle anymore.  One thing for sure, though.  I won't forget to put the air box cover on next time.  After going through the creek, my bike ran like crap for the rest of the lap.  I think that wore me out more than anything with the power surging on and off so much.  Anyway, first real race and looking forward to more.  Any suggestions for dialing in a suspension?  Before the race, I had heard that the cousrse was really rough and considered dialing back the compression but I'm not sure that would have been the best approach.  I'm running Laeger +2 with TCS long travel shocks.  Still have stock rear suspension (I want to have the TCS upgrade done to my rear  -  what about linkages and/or longer swingarms?).  Open to suggestions because I really think I'm going to like running the quad series.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 24, 2006, 08:14:03 PM
Glad some of you that have never been to one of these, decided to make the trip and give it a whirl!
It is a challenge of skill, endurance, preperation, and luck. I must say, that was the absolute worst I have ever seen a course. We rode areas during this race that were motorcycle only last week. If I ever hear how "quads tear up the track" again, I will slap the whoop de doo right out of them!
It was like a 2-3' chop out there.
Most every quad scramble from here on out will be on virgin trails. Last week was like that and was NOTHING like this weekend.
Anybody see that rattlesnake in the trail during practice?
As for the fun run, you guys should have been more creative and made your own trails. There was a LOT of land at your disposal :)
Myself, I figured I'd better go as fast as I could over those bumps. The faster I went, the smoother it got.
Diggin, if I were you, I'd get that rear shock taken care of p.d.q. :)
GT Thunder for me. I sent my three shocks to them and had them back in 5 days from the time I sent them!! Talk about turn-a-round time! I also bought, and recommend, the XC rear linkage.
I also recommend as narrow as you can make your machine and get a steering stabilizer.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 24, 2006, 09:08:58 PM
I would have to agree the track was brutal. You can't judge the series by that track. It was the worst I've seen since Titusville of years ago. If you raced the last race of the day, I'm sure you saw me sitting on the side of the trail. I threw my chain about 6 miles into the first lap. I was there 3 laps before I even saw a sweeper. I finally was towed out after 4 different people stopped. I'll be ready for the next one.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: cubnfrank on September 24, 2006, 09:18:48 PM
I must have seen you. There were plenty of bikes on the course that had problems. Mine kept throwing me over the handle bars. I'll be at the next race.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Chillinthemost on September 24, 2006, 09:36:04 PM
I rode my bike to the starting line at 2:45 to get a good spot and did a coulple of practice cranks. The 3rd. time I went to start it, it only turned over but no start. It made a funny noise too. My son gave me a ride back to the trailer on his 90 to get the Rhino and tow me back. It pull started and ran for a minute then shut off. By now its after 3:00 and I'm going nuts trying to figure out the problem. I gave up at 3:20 and went and watched the race. They wouldn't even give me my entry fee back.
  O well, my son got 2nd. place in the pee wee class and he cant wait till the next one.
  Found the problem with the bike this AM, a bolt backed out and wiped out my stator.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 24, 2006, 09:51:31 PM
I rode my bike to the starting line at 2:45 to get a good spot and did a coulple of practice cranks. The 3rd. time I went to start it, it only turned over but no start. It made a funny noise too. My son gave me a ride back to the trailer on his 90 to get the Rhino and tow me back. It pull started and ran for a minute then shut off. By now its after 3:00 and I'm going nuts trying to figure out the problem. I gave up at 3:20 and went and watched the race. They wouldn't even give me my entry fee back.
  O well, my son got 2nd. place in the pee wee class and he cant wait till the next one.
  Found the problem with the bike this AM, a bolt backed out and wiped out my stator.

That's a bummer about the stator.

You can't get your money back once the first race of the day has started.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Holeshot36 on September 24, 2006, 09:54:12 PM
The track was rough and learned I got to work on my endurance alot more. Got a last place start and then my front sprocket went out on the last lap. Still had fun though and can't wait to the next one.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 24, 2006, 10:21:38 PM
That's the spirit! Doing these events and doing well requires a lifestyle of proper diet and exercise, that's for sure. Preparation is KEY! Prep the machine. Prep the body.
It is NOT for everyone. It is probably the hardest thing one will EVER do in their life for 2 hrs! I was thinking after the practice lap..." I don't work this hard at work!"
It is rewarding just to finish. The time between races should be time spent preparing.
TRX, I saw you and asked if you were okay. You gave a thumbs up sign and I was gone.
The next one is November 4th at Seminole. Our club cut the woods courses they have. When they are new, they are great.
The next race after that is up by Live Oak, FL on the 11th of November.
Just a heads up... for those of you that are new and joined, you can also run the HS series. Gatorback, in Gainsville Feb 24th!! Can't ride there normally.
This gives Florida quadders at least 17 weekends of these! There is NO OTHER state that offers up this much fun. This doesn't even include the 8 more MX events FTR offers up.
So for those of you who are questioning the fees. Remember what it gives you and you will see it is pennies for what you can do with it. The fun runs and benifits are a bonus. We alos have a big scholarship fund, so it is not some flusey club like some would like you to believe. Everything you saw this weekend was from volunteers. Good people providing good times and good family fun.
See you around


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: atvtrailer on September 24, 2006, 10:24:13 PM
It was fun for my first race, but that track was rough and im definly feeling it, looking forward to the next one  ;D


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: jujulo700R on September 25, 2006, 09:58:23 AM
I am in the process of upgrading my bike right no in preperation for the next race whether it be the HS or QS. I refuse to let a course beat me up and not take another stab at it. When I go next time, I will enter the race and catch the course on the first day when it is fresh. That way I can be the one doing the beating up and not the other way around! I am going next time with vengeance! >:D


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Mark Potter on September 26, 2006, 09:55:29 PM
This was my first quadscramble and I enterend the 400cc beginer class and man was that brutal! but I was able to take first place in my class with two other riders ;D

But now I will be riding with the C riders and don't think I'll be doing as good :-\

I hope everyone is right and the other courses are not as bad as this one was ???


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 26, 2006, 10:18:26 PM
Congratulations Mark! What a way to begin by taking a win! C class is fun except for the sandbaggers who are scared to run in the appropriate class. But that'll just make you stronger.
That was NOT a good representation of what the courses are like. There are some that have just as big of whoops and some that have way worse palmettos. There were no trees in this first event. Only 1 really easy area from what I remember. Some courses are so tight you'll need a can opener to get through the trees!
You guys want a fun virgin course? Do the HS Oct 4th in Madison. Now THAT will be nice!


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on September 27, 2006, 09:51:31 AM
Mark,
  Did they promote you or did you move yourself up?

  My freind Frankie was the guy on the white Z400 in your class. He is still trying to make a come back from a broken arm and a broken leg.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: cubnfrank on September 27, 2006, 10:55:17 AM
Mark, I ran the senior class. I had the only 400 in the class. Every other bike was a 450. After the holeshot I looked up and those guys were gone. Those seniors can run fast. Im gonna go to the 0-400 class next race.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Mark Potter on September 27, 2006, 03:42:54 PM

mudnuri - (cool screen name!) thanks, my little victory felt great, I had some friends there (a buddy that broke his tie rod in pratice that was going to run the open beginer class) along with my wife who all came up to congradulate me as I crossed he finish...that made it awesome! 8)

TRX450R - they did not promote me but it is my understanding that one win or three top finishes and your promoted to the C class. I'm in the CFQR - Central Florida Quad Riders club and there a all c riders with the president being a B rider and they were all saying "welcome to C class now" ;)...kind of sounded like they were looking to run me over or at least give me a little schooling...lol :P  yea, I meet Frankie, I went over and introduced myself, nice guy. that's what I liked about the FTR is the people, everyone told each other good luck. I think he finshed just a few minutes behind my, I'm sure his recovery is the only reason I was able to stay ahead.

cubnfrank - I had considered the senior class also being 42 but someone said that there fast racers just older now but not any slower so that's why I figured the beginer class was for me ;)   I would switch to the 400 class if i were you, that is what I like about the FTR events is the 400's don't have to compeat with the 450's. I run some flat track events and all the classes from beginer up are all open cc's and it makes it hard to run a 400 against the 450's and with me being a bigger rider trying to run against a 13 yr old half my weight on a 450 is impossiable :-\


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: svtbolt04 on September 27, 2006, 06:34:43 PM
I dont know if you guys looked at the times, but Willis Pledger is no joke when it comes to racing. 4 minutes he had on second place! Only way he will lose is if he breaks or doesnt show up. He races Senior class and is a freaking animal.

Congrats to Brian for the Vet win, and Willis for the Senior win.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 27, 2006, 06:41:12 PM
hehehe-the senior class is FAST and just got a little faster with the Willis Pledger switching to it.
The C class is a tough class. There are FAST riders in there, too! So when you win, it makes the next few days after, seem worth it.  :'(
Heck, today is Wed and I am still hurting!
I am really glad some of you guys went on out and gave it a try. There are some pics from the weekend before on racedaypics.com. There is a helmet cam video on the FTR site made by a two wheeler. Watching that makes it seem like passing on one is easy. A heck of a lot easier than on a four wheeler!
I think the kids had the best time of all. Can't wait until the next one.
B


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: paul450 on September 27, 2006, 09:44:38 PM
Frank,   sorry to see you with that chain off on the first lap... you should of switch bikes with bubba because he can't finish a race..

Can't wait for the other QS races,   the courses will be 200% better,  more woods and less whopps

only thing I miss is the running to your quad for the start, that was the best...


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: digginfool on September 27, 2006, 10:14:50 PM
You know, it is Wednesday and I'm still sore, too, but it's only my forearms.  My legs never got tired and my shoulders were only sore on Monday.  I'm kicking myself for not hanging a little tougher and at least completing another lap.  I know I could have finished the whole race but at the time, it just didn't seem worth the effort.  I wasn't even remotely having fun.  I'm definitely looking forward to the next race, though.  I might even do Boggy Creek again just so I can say it didn't totally kick my a$$.  ;)


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: khooping on September 27, 2006, 10:27:01 PM
Checking to see if anyones going to go and run the Rattler in Madison on the 7th?  If so, do you know where you're going to stay?  There are several Motels listed on the flier at both I75 & Exit 5 as well as I-10 & Madison.  I'm planning on taking a 1/2 day vacation from work and going up Friday afternoon.  I was going to run Vet. Quad but based on reading the reviews of Orlando  ??? (I went for the day to check it out but didn't bring my quad) I should probably start out in Beginner 2 (201 - Open) class.   ;D

Kevin
 


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 27, 2006, 10:35:03 PM
Kevin, you should plan on camping. That is the only way to go.  ;D


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: svtbolt04 on September 27, 2006, 11:31:33 PM
You know, it is Wednesday and I'm still sore, too, but it's only my forearms.  My legs never got tired and my shoulders were only sore on Monday.  I'm kicking myself for not hanging a little tougher and at least completing another lap.  I know I could have finished the whole race but at the time, it just didn't seem worth the effort.  I wasn't even remotely having fun.  I'm definitely looking forward to the next race, though.  I might even do Boggy Creek again just so I can say it didn't totally kick I disagree.  ;)


Me too. I could have taken 5 spots over if I did one more lap.. But it was just not fun to me and I didnt feel like getting beat up again!


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Fox17 on September 27, 2006, 11:40:12 PM
i wanted to try it but im gonna wait til next year. :-\ anyway my cousin did it and he was beat to death sunday. he didnt have fun at all. he did 4 laps and finished 16th. outta 20. you may have seen him. a black and grey raptor 350? short dude with yellow gear on i think. anyway i thought it looked fun in the video.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: PLEDGER#76 on September 28, 2006, 05:59:49 PM
Thanks for the pat on the back SVTBOLT, I have been hitting the gym with my wife 4 times a week and also some practicing on Taylor Kisers track with him sometimes and it is starting to pay off for me, I was 221 LBS when we got back from Jamaica and Mexico and have come down to 195lbs in the last 5 weeks, sorry about the bad luck you had hope it gets better for ya!!!!!!!! I just looked at the scores and I was 9th overall out of 181 quads, not bad for being an old fart!!!!! ;) ;) 8) 8)


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 28, 2006, 08:54:22 PM
Yeah, thank's also for the props you guys.
Nice way to start the move, Willis. Congrat's!
I'm going to try and ride this weekend and next.
Where do you find overall scores?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: kenz on September 28, 2006, 08:58:49 PM
The QS was a blast.  That course beat the crap out of me too.  It got to the point I could barely keep my thumb on the throttle and hands on the bars.  I also at some point on my second lap hit the choke and didn't realize it.  It started sputtering really bad and wanted to dye everytime I got off the throttle. Just thought it had developed some kind of fuel problem.  It was when I got back to the pits when I realized the choke was on.

Hey TRX450R_Racer I met you and Frank at the gas station in the morning.  Sorry for the bad luck with your chain coming off on the first lap, that blows.  Glad to see Frank made it through on his Z.

Can't wait for the next race.  Hopefully see some of ya'll there.

Ken


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: Chillinthemost on September 28, 2006, 09:50:07 PM
My rag is running again, and I plan on getting some points next time. 50 points, that is ;D.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: svtbolt04 on September 28, 2006, 09:52:37 PM
This whole 6 race thing is getting to me.. I want to do somthing about it, but what is there for me to do?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 28, 2006, 10:14:24 PM
Run some HS's, too.
 :D
If you miss a race at the Madison course Oct 7th, you'll be sorry  :'(


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: svtbolt04 on September 28, 2006, 10:18:36 PM
But why give them the same amount of money to get in as the bikers, but still recieve no year end points?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 28, 2006, 10:56:07 PM
Fred, since we don't get any money for results, I don't see how points for a yearend plaque would keep you from testing your abilites against others who are there to take that wood home with them.  ;)
Points shmoints. It's going to be a race no matter how you slice it! So we'll see you there?
As quad rep, I need to go. HS#3 is back in Orlando and I have to go to that because of a meeting.
Just a heads up guys and gals, QS#3 is not looking good right now. The laws in that area are giving the hosting club grief. So get in as much racing as you can between the HS and QS.
QS#2 is still a go at Big Cypress.


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: PLEDGER#76 on September 28, 2006, 11:20:06 PM
I am going to have to agree with SVTBOLT on this deal too, I am not gonna give my hard earned money to get a piece of wood for the day and a t-shirt with a dirtbike on it and no year-end awards, I will go practice at Seminole for a 1/8 of the cost and not nearly the driving time too, dont get me wrong I will support all of the quad scrambles but I dont think I will attend any of the hare scramble races this season!!!!!


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: mudnuri on September 28, 2006, 11:44:07 PM
You know me, I just go because I can't ride anywhere here where I live. It just gives me an op to ride on private property with the owners permission AND I get to ride as fast as I want :)
I will say, without all the best riders there it does take away from it. You will be missed, Pledger.
Any of you guys know what the QS#2 course will be like? New or same old?


Title: Re: QUAD SCRAMBLES IN ORLANDO
Post by: svtbolt04 on September 29, 2006, 12:38:34 AM
Mike Head said that it was different.

BTW, QS#3 has been postponed.. The november 11th one right? Yep, been pushed back to "sometime in spring" heh, looks like thats going to be rained out.