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FAMU has a really kick azz band this year >:D

when have they not?

Im a DIE HARD GATOR fan all the way. Go Gators!!!!!

GO KNIGHTS!  I will be going to a couple of their football games this year.

when the season is over all the teams will be saying go CANES.

By the end of the season, the Canes might all be suspended.

LOL!

thats the way it's starting to look but even with half a team all the other teams are still jealous.j/k

yea whatever. you know the gators are gonna win the championship.

the gators couldn't win it if they were the only team playing by themselves

whatever. at least we dont have criminoles playing for us. miami aint gonna do jack this year. fsu SUCKS too.

You can't f#@k with the U

P.S. - Fox 17, I'm sorry to break this to you, but all the teams have some criminals playing for them.

"Gators get smoked in intersquad scrimmage, details at 11:00"

when did famu not have a great band ? ? ? thats the best thing they have going for them !


C - A - N - E - S ! GO CANES !


Only gaytors fans say things like that because they are sore loosers ......  :'(  :'(  :'(

this is what i think.

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SCREW ALL FLORIDA TEAMS!!!! UT ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!!



go longhorns

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MIAMIRULES!

U of M chances of seeing a bcs bowl are not to good taking into consideration off season troubles,last  seasons enemic offense (the defense was the only good part) , not to mention a new offensive line coach, offensive co-ordinator and running backs coach etc.
FSU chances are a little bit better, just because they seem to back into those kind of games.But, there offense is now better than there defense due to key losses to the draft.They will run it better than they pass it.
U of F will have a tough time with the tough sec schedule.(here is the really bad news)They will be better than last year, second year for Chris Leak and the same offensive co-ordinator(this is huge)but , big question marks at running back.defensively they are rock solid , but have little depth at linebacker.
UCF is poised to have there best season ever, good coaching and better recruiting =wins. They have alot of returning linemen and should do exceptionally well(THEY ARE NOT A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM)but they will make the school proud , play well and finish respectively.
do any other schools in the state really matter?

well there you have miami sucks and all the other teams swallow.

Gee, isn't it funny UM was ranked behind both the Gators and FS-Pew!

Actually its no surprise at all ,Florida completely took FSU apart and made them look like an unranked team. On the other hand Miami struggled with FSU because they couldnt score points when needed, Miamis defense matched up well with FSUs but that only gets you so far. I think Miami should finish in the top 18 in polls (new running backs coach should get the ground game cranked up)if the offense can score when they need to. FSU on the other hand could very easily implode with the lack of experience and depth on defense. Chances are they wont but I think every one can agree Bobby Bowden is definetly not the reason they one 2 national championships, the guy responsible for that coaches at a school in Athens,GA.(YES, Mark Richt-former UM alumni and offensive wizard).Florida definetly has a better chance out of all three major schools of seeing the bigger bowl game. Facts are facts ???

TEXAS LONGHORNS

Even though my blood runs blue and I bleed orange,,,,,,I must say that out of the current crop this year from all the teams,,,,Florida has the best chances to win a bunch this year.

Unless of course Miami can keep their team together and not kill the Larry before the end of the year.

Id@

If you look at it from a betting stand point its cut and dry: Gators have the best chance hands down. Florida fan or not , facts are facts.

Where is Mr. 2bits when you need em?

exactly.

ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!...BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dangit, I'm a moderator,,,,,wonder how I can vote a bunch of times ;-)

Id@

Come on abuse your power,its for a greater good!

 >:D

Id@

its urban assault this year!

GO GATORS

nothin better than gator tale and a good miami game on a sunday.

So CHILDISH ! ! ! Typical gator fan ....

Would that be  painting all UF fans with a pretty broad brush? Considering Ive seen those type of decals on the back of many different fans trucks , its a little pretentious of you to make such a blanket statement considering we are talking about college football here. ;D

 ;D Go Gators!!!    Go Gators!!!  I like way they slide into mud when it rains becomes a swamp land to play in :box.gif :ouch.gif :pirate.gif..  ;)

         
MIAMI STILL RULES! GATORS ARE ONLY A GOOD TEAM WHEN THE PLAY AGAINST A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM.OR THE SEMINOLES WHICH ISN'T MUCH BETTER THAN A HIGH SCHOOL TEAM.GO CANES.  CAN WE ALL SAY THE GATORS AND THE SEMINOLES ARE PROUD MEMBERS OF THE JERRY'S KIDS FOUNDATION.lets all make them a donation so they can get hooked on phonics and learn the plays right.

So, your saying that the Canes got beat by a high school team last year? (Seminoles won last year 10-7,conversely Florida pounded FSU 31-7)Facts are facts,sounds like someones got there wires crossed. ;D

Ok I don't care what you say Atleast our best player isn't names Fagg  ;D

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Canes 16, Florida State 14 (04)
Canes 28, Florida State 28 (03)
Canes 49, Florida State 27 (02)
Canes 27, Florida State 24 (01)

Looks to me maybe the facts show who the real team is

I can tell your a huge Canes fan but , your history is a bit skewed.History as follows=
1999 FSU WINS 31-21
1998 FSU WINS 14-26
2000 UM  WINS  27-24
2001 UM   WINS 49-27
2002 UM  WINS  28-27
2003 UM  WINS  22-14
2004 UM  WINS  16-10
2005 FSU WINS  10-7


Im not a Noles  fan by any means but even I can see thats no dominating record. Two games more than FSU in an 8 year history? I hate the Noles just as much but that doesnt indicate that they suck.Besides , when you say how much they suck doesnt that make the ACC look even worse than it already is?
Actually in the 50 year history of this series they are 29-21 with UM holding the small advantage.

the ACC does really suck dont they.

I love the passion when it comes to college football.

I'm sitting here thinking of how I can hijack my own thread and interject God into the conversation, just in case we don't have enough God in the Jerimiah Jones thread.

Now I think we all could agree that would be wayyyyy out of line! ;D

ok here ya go Uncle Rico


Well GOD only knows who the best team is. It may be by a few little miracles of his own power to what team wins what but by the looks of it Miami MIGHT only be a FEW WINS ahead but in any case thats STILL a few wins.  ;D

See now you knew it could be done. lol anyway Miami still rocks no matter if it's by 2 or by 20 they still know the game! 


Oh yeah and the stats came off of ESPN so I guess they are wrong???  :-\

miami is gonna need a few miracles to even have a team. they have so many criminals playin for them they are bound to be caught sometime. ill give you this. they arent as bad a the fsu criminoles. i hate fsu even more than miami. the only team i dislike more than the noles is auburn. man i hate to think that word.

Why would you trust the SPANISH channel for stats?

I remember when ESPN first came out, they'd put any sport on just to fill air time...I remember the Amish Rake Fighting Championships. Those were the days.

lol I can't believe all of the UM fans..... I've been an FSU fan for most of my life but now that i'm going to Gainesville for college I don't mind the gators as much.  However, UM is the most disgraceful team on the planet  :'( .  Every Miami fan I have ever met has been stuck up and in denial at how bad thier team has been at times.  Maybe you guys missed the 1995 issue of Sports Illustrated that was headlined "Why the Miami Hurricanes should drop football".  :o

26YFZ-A true measure of your program and its support can usually be made when in the lean years(when wins are hard to come by)how many people are in attendance at home games. Programs like Michigan,Ohio State,USC,Notre Dame and yes even Florida have absolutely no problem selling out. Conversely a program like UM with 5 national championships cant even sell out a Rutgers game(when they where still in the Big Least Conf.),couldnt sell out a Georgia Tech game (which they lost ). The point Im making is they have a hard time selling out home games even when there playing well.Any body remember the Pell grant scholarship scandal there in the mid 90s, there was hardly more than 20,000 at ther home games unless it was a big draw like FSU.

Well I thought you would have access to the very same information all die hard canes fans have.You know the official UM site , Canesport.com? ;)

didn't fsu take penn state into overtime in the bowl game they played in last year ?

look it's like this I have liked the canes my whole life weather they have played good or bad and I have no problem with the gator,and I really like the canes and the gator when the beat the noles.I dont even watch football ,the only game I watched in the last couple years was when the canes beet the noles.other than that I'd rather be messing with my 4 wheeler than a game on TV.so D@MN the football lets go ride the quads.


 AND YOU KNOW THE CANES ARE GOING TO KICK AZZ THIS YEAR WITH ALL 4 PLAYERS THEY"LL HAVE LEFT.

this thread is proof that florida is dominant in college football. any one who thinks USC,ND,U-Tx. can come down here and play at FSU,UM, or THE SWAMP is wrong. i predict 8 outa 10 are a florida team winning.


p.s anyone going to FSU vs UF game?

What about the FSU vs. UM game?

In the past 20years there has not been another state thats had the success that Florida state colleges(mainly the big 3) have had , particularly with regard to football. That being said , the only upside to playing these highly competitive teams would be the obvious television revenue your school would see from playing such a national draw(like the big three).Proof is in the pudding, Florida is where premiere athletes come to play. This poll was started with the question "who is going to have the best season" and if you think about it and not let your team allegence skew your perception the answer is easy. GATORS are clearly in a position to do better than rest for many reasons including having the same offensive coaching staff for two years in a row ,( something Chris Leak didnt have his first two years there).

I would love to go to that game but it would be a shame to spend that kind of money to watch FSU lose again....Wait no that might actually be worth it..lol Gators might have been a good team a few years ago but the only Florida teams you hear about anything big anymore is FSU and Canes. Not a whole lot of people get excited about the Canes vs Gators like they do when they canes play FSU the rivalary isn't the same.

And this is off of ACC website ;) they didn't have anything about this year but it explains it all the excitement from last year.

Miami opens its 80th season of college football with its 50th game against intrastate and Atlantic Coast Conference rival Florida State on Labor Day night. Miami and Florida State are meeting for the fourth time in less than 23 months, with the Hurricanes sporting a six-game winning streak in the series, dating back to a 27-24 win at the Orange Bowl in 2000. In the last meeting between the two teams, Miami came from behind to defeat FSU 16-10 in overtime on September 10, 2004 in a game delayed four days because of Hurricane Frances.

Miami has won nine straight games on opening day, the longest streak in school history. Miami is 54-24-1 in season-opening games and has not lost on opening day since a 31-8 loss at UCLA in 1995. The last time Miami lost a season opener at home was 1985, a 35-23 loss to Florida. The last loss in a home opener was Sept. 13, 1997, a 23-12 loss to Arizona State.

Overall, the two schools have faced each other nine times to open the season. FSU holds a 5-4 edge in those games, but Miami has won the last three season openers between the two teams. Five of those nine games have been shutouts: three by Miami and two by FSU.

SUCCESS AGAINST THE SEMINOLES
Twelve of Florida State's last 34 losses, dating back to 1987, have been to the Hurricanes. The 12 UM wins are the most by any team in the nation vs. Florida State over the last 17 seasons. Miami is one of only three schools to defeat the Seminoles more than once since 1987 (six by Florida, three by North Carolina State). In addition, FSU has had eight one-loss seasons since 1987, with five of the losses coming at the hands of the Hurricanes.


CANES DOMINATE SUNSHINE STATE IN NEW MILLENIUM
Miami has won 11 straight games against teams from the state of Florida since 2000, including wins against Florida State and Florida during the 2004 season. UM opened the 2004 season with a 16-10 overtime win against FSU in the Orange Bowl and closed the season with a 27-10 win in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl against Florida. The Hurricanes have won 24 of their last 32 games (.750) against Sunshine State opponents since the 1985 season. The last time the Hurricanes lost to a team from Florida was Oct. 9, 1999, a 31-21 loss at top-ranked FSU.

 

Its not the same cause they dont play on a regular basis. So its not the rivalry that say a Florida- Georgia game (Worlds Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party)-nationally televised-or Florida- Tennessee(there stadium holds about 110,00 people)-nationally televised-and Florida-FSU also nationally televised .These games are but 3 out of many in the season that are prime-time big draw games as well as being three of the many big time rivalrys in college football today.Respectfully , Miami only has 1 ....FSU. Unfortunately for a program like UM even with a plethora of championships, doesnt guarantee that you can draw an audience.Just go to any home game at the Orange Bowl that is not FSU(they cant sell it out)and that stadium is small in comparison to Dork Cambell Stadium(FSU) and Ben Hill Griffin (UF).

Try Canesport.com(the university's site)Miami leads the series 29-21 over 50 games.You can get all kinds of stats off any site you want, but thats the only one that matters. ;)

The only reason the UF vs UGA game is so big is because the fans can drinka t the stadium ... Guess what ? ? ?  CANES FANS GET TO DRINK AT THE ORANGE BOWL ALL SEASON LONG ! And, yes Miami does sell out other games besides FSU...

Actually at a Florida Georgia game the better part of the people there are not there cause they serve beer at the stadium, on the contrary the party is on the outside of the stadium. And like at any football game people tailgate, yet at this game its on a much greater scale.
btw;which games where those that sold out beside fsu?
ps: do your homework because ive got there attendance records myself ;D

Looks to me that you've been looking into Miami for a while...Either way it's an opinion not a fact of who is better. There is no definate way to prove who is better by only a couple games, if it was 5 to 1 then it would be a fact. Most of the teams only play Juniors or Seniors in the games so it's a toss up every year as to who has the best team. Unlike NFL having the same players for the time of their contract, it's almost always new players every year. Miami is just one of the top schools that people want to go to for their football team.....it's ok though I read that FSU's Chess team will make it to the Championships this year  ;)

Heres a good one for you fair weather canes fanes :average attendance to a hurricane home game in 1997 was 28,916, 1998 was a big 39,263 and 2001 was 46,162.Sounds like sell out crowds to me. :'( :'(

Virginia Tech ....

And actually I do have to correct the 'Sold Out' term that follows Miami due to the fact that they can add seating & General Admission never sells out b/c Miami Fans will stand to watch the game if they had too ...

two sold out games in one year, thats big !!And they only add the seating for FSU and any other big draw team to the east end zone. Now thats something to be proud of!!! ;)

Btw: IT WASNT A SELL-OUT attendance was 65,115 , OH YEA AND IT WAS AT VIRGINIA TECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just like I said they cant sell out unless a big team comes to town, in fact this year they didnt sell-out not one game.5 NCs and cant even sell out a home game.

I'm not sure if your awear of it or not but this last year people in florida have been trying to rebuild there homes from the hurricanes the year before,most people didn't have the spare money to go to a game.their family and homes were more important.but that dont mean they didn't watch the games from home.but anyway any team that beat the noles are good in my eyes.

excuses, excuses....... anyway yes the gators embarassed the noles pretty bad so, I geuss that is a good thing! ;D

yep I love the noles when they loose there games.thier just over rated.miami's probably not the best team to like but they are always concistant.year after year you know what to expect.

yep, a losing season. ;) and definately no championship.

just found out, cornerback for Utah tranfered to the gators and gets instant eligibility cause of the new ncaa rules. That helps with Avery Atkins departing .So things are looking up in the secondary.

probably to be with urban. that would have been his coach in utah if he hadnt come to florida. he was probably recruited by urban. a couple of other players have come from utah too.

How many games did they lose last year???? Not as many as the Noles

FSU 8-5
UM   9-3

i no. they both suck. i hate the noles 10 times as much as miami. when the u plays the criminoles im a miami fan. i hate them both but miami is better than fsu.

which school has over 20 1st rounders that start in the NFL right now?
the only school ever to go more than 12 years, thats 3 US presidents, without loosing a game at home?


Its all about the U
Its always been about the U

Why are the Gators so scared to play us, maybe since they havent beat since the 80's

All Fsu can say is " wide right"     C  A  N  E S   =====GO CANES

If i'm not mistaken.... UF doesn't exactly have a championship this decade now do they ? ! ?



Finally someone in my corner !

GO CANES ! ! ! !

BTW.... Fox - How many first rounders does UF have starting right now ? ? ? & How many UF players have won superbowls ? ? ? Actually how many UF first rounders aren't on practice squads now  ? ? ?

You will have to try really hard not to find any starters on any nfl team that arent from the big 3 in this state !

AND A DECADE IS 10 YEARS= UF 1996 NATIONAL CHAMPS
The last super bowl champion had no canes at all on there team. but there was a gator .

If you dont know the game you cant talk about the game ;)

There is about the same amount of starters ,2n stringers etc. for both teams , pick a better stat.

And since Spurier left the Gators.... They've gone no where but the "No-Name" Bowl Games

IM sorry I thought I saw UM get completely taken apart by a SEC team, so badly by the way they didnt look like they belong there.

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How bout Miami's 40 + draft picks since 2000 to Florida mear 33 draft picks ....

Plus what bowl game Florida play last year ? ? ? Oh thats right , they played the Outback bowl ..... How cute ....

BUT THEY WON!
and last I checked  thats only seven more than florida , thats huge!
like i said its very difficult to find a successful team in the NFL that doest have players from the big three.

They played in the Outback bowl 4 out of 5 years in a row .... The outback bowl is just a nice way of telling them how much they suck .......

Actually Miami had 45 draft picks ... hence the 40+

Im really amazed , you have a right to your opinion, but not to you own facts!
Florida has only played in three (3) Outback bowls, and they where not consecutive. No offense,but you need to do better research.
BTW: 12 more players in the draft is still nothing to crow about.

go gators

i do appologize it was only 3 but two were consecutive ....

Hey you dont have to apologize.......just repeat after me.....GO GATORS!!!
now , all is better! ;)

the only day i would root for the gators is when the noles are up by 1 and the time clock is ticking down to the last min. and gators had the ball.other than that the canes are the only team that matters.where do you get your facts.you seem like another know it all to me.but anyway there are leaders and thier are followers and I bet your a follower because you like the gaterds and a leader is always a winner and all winners like the canes. GO CANES!!!!!!!!and you must like the canes but dont want your friends to find out or you wouldn't keep trying to prove there not a better team.dont be a groupy be your own man it's ok to like the canes we'll all still be your friend.

check my facts and tell me if Im wrong, but I bet Im not. Ive played football my whole life , and it got me a college education, thats hows i punctuates so good! Im a huge college football fan , and yes, I know alot about every team not just florida teams.Im glad your concerned about my man hood ;)
and that message was for ford4x4girl, read back a couple of posts and youll see why a said that joking.

I never said your were wrong and my facts arn't wrong either.anybody can look on google to get the facts.what I'm saying is you sound like a little kid trying to make everyone believe your your right and thier wrong.it dont matter.what matters is everyone watches miami when they play because thier just good enough to put fear in all the other teams.but anyway.who cares it's just a game.now lets put our differences aside and go ride.but GO CANES!

o-k

 :groupies.gif i come in peace .... but  :D GO CANES ! ! !!

Well here you go everyone, the polls.

http://sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/ap

http://sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/coaches

And I only put this last one in because its the BCS. I just wanted to have my objeciton to the BCS noted.

http://sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/bcs

Damn .... I only see one florida team in the top 10 .....  :'(


C - A - N - E - S -------------- GO CANES !

The coaches poll has the Gators at 8.

thats all good because the canes are still very close to the top therefor they will finish close to the top.you'll see when the canes send you noles and gators home sore and wounded from the battle on the field.go CANES. MIRROR<MIRROR ON THE WALL WHO'S THE BEST TEAM OF THEM ALL-----BUT OF COURSE YOU  KNOW CANES ARE.GO CANE GO CANES GO CANES

THis isnt new orleans, we dont let those pesky hurricanes bother us.

GO GATORS!!

well d@mn you live in winter haven I didn't even know they had TV down there.you must be rooting for the gator at the watering hole in seabring.in that case go seabring for the good steaks and 14ft gator.but canes are still the best.GO CANES


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WOW, am I the only one who saw the canes get embarrassed on national tv by LSU? That wasnt even fair after the first quarter, LSU should have put in some guys from the band .Then it wouldnt have been as bad of a whoopin.

sounds like sore losers to me

it's all good atleast the canes made it far enough in the season to play LSU.and that was a sorry game.but the canes haft to have pitty on people every now and then.it wouldn't be fair if they won every game then it would be a monopoly and people would complane.you'll see when the canes beat your favorite team this year. lets just see when the season is over and the canes will give your players a job cleaning their locker rooms and floors.GO canes

see, thats what I mean , the canes didnt reload with players, they have lost a few to the draft , acouple to transfers- they are hurtin , not to mention all new offensive coaching staff? Any body that knows anything about football knows thats not exactley a recipe for success , if they bounce back it will take a season or two, so get used to some lower than the usual attendance at the OB.

you know something SOMBCH your right they are going to have an extremely hard time for the next year or two and if they dont get some discpline on the team for the players and coaches to follow they will never come back like they were.and I'm just messing with you dont take thing the wrong way just having some fun to see what all you know I'm also blupit04 I just thought I would use my name instead of my wifes.but you are right.but I will say this if miami stopped playing football I would probably be on gator side over the noles.but anyway dont get upset.have a good night and maybe we can go watch the canes together sometime.I'll save ya a seat.I even have a good canes hate you could wear.go CCCAAANNNEEESSS.

Would anyone like to change their vote at this time?

Now dont go talkin trash just yet. It is the SEC and you know as well as I do that it can change at any second.

Im not talkin trash, the poll was who would finish better this season. The Gators still have to get by Auburn, then Ill trash talk ! But, at this point I believe its a led-pipe lock as to who will finish with a better record,am I wrong?

I think I'm good with my opinion.

Id@

This is true, I guess outta the choices above the Gators will deffinately turn out better. Its so nice to be the only florida team in the top 25. GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!

dunno about you, but I would rather see all the Florida teams in the top 10,,,,but all the others ranked below the Gators ;-)

Id@

I used to think that was Id@ but then I have come to a new ideal. I want everyone in the SEC to be ranked high but below UF. I hate FSU, and dont really like UM. I think neither has a hard schedule and they usually get ranked high. If USC or Ohio had to play teams of SEC caliber week in and week out they wouldnt be nearly as good as they are now. They practice for like 9 games for the 2 or 3 hard games they have. And most of the time they end up at the Championship healthy because of the sorry teams they play.

even tho i dont lik the gators there still gona have a good season i think

it is gonna be Florida vs. Michigan for thr title. GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michigan?? I thought we weren't aloud to cuss on this site..?? HA HA

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michigan is gonna rock your world whenever they play you. ohio state SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! btw al least my cus words arent blinking so they stick out and everyone sees them.

hahaha nice try have you seen OSU play this year?? All of our second and third string guys are just as good as our first string. So we can rotate them all day and wear everyone out! I'll be looking forward to Nov. 18th when we beat up on those poor wolverines!!!!

I vote for gators i hope they do pretty good this year,I would love see any florida college
football team wins this year for SEC champship this year.. :)

Florida vs. Ohio State.  Michigan is overrated.  The main reason they jumped up so high is because they whooped a Notre Dame team that was supposedly "amazing" but look where they are now.  If they would of played them later in the season after everyone had seen that they werent that great then the Wolverines wouldn't have gotten so much hype for stomping them.  I'll agree with you that USC blowsssss though.  Washington and Washington State coming down to the last drive? Wow....Pac ten teams are a joke.

Thanks for the support Darren glad to see you wised up hahahahaha

wisened up? I still say Florida will beat OSU in the championship.  Our only problem is there are soooo many chances to lose. Auburn, Georgia, Florida St., and then SEC championship against prolly Auburn again and that's the easy half of the schedule lol

well you atleast did on the OSU Michigan part ;) I guess that's good enough but I do hope that your prediction for the championship is correct. I like Florida and all but not well enough to feel sorry for them if they play OSU 2:L

Well if they do run the table, I want them to play OSU, atleast make it a good championship.

Yes that would be a great game!!! I'll be cheering for them to make it to the championship as well but after that you know the deal lol.

lol of course. I don't blame you.

thye championship should be the SEC championship game. Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Auburn, and LSU would all beat OSU. there needs to be playoffs sooooo bad. it would be SEC every year. the 5 best college teams are in the SEC. USC and Texas suck now cause they dont have 3 of the best players any more. OSU and Michigan both are better than them. BUT the SEC is THE BEST THERE IS!!!