Title: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 19, 2006, 06:13:18 PM So who's all going from this site? Just curious. I've just learned I'll be picking up my new-to-me 05' Forman 500 this Saturday. Mabey I'll keep an eye out for any of ya'll there.
I'm not talking about L-cross here. I'm talking about the REAL Mudfest. Mudstock as some know it. If you see any guys out there getting pulled behind a 4wheeler on a knee board or a car hood with a bench seat welded to it go say hi to them. That'll be us. Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Thrumud on July 19, 2006, 06:18:53 PM Where is the mudfest going to be ?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 19, 2006, 08:48:44 PM Right off of Hwy 70 about 7-10 miles from the town of Okeechobee.
Heres a map: (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nisterious/1.gif) (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/nisterious/2.gif) Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 02YamahaBigBear400 on July 19, 2006, 10:27:06 PM i'll be there on a green polaris magnum. one thing you'll know its us is my friends general lee golf cart. I might be bringing mine. if so its red and just as high as my friends.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on July 19, 2006, 11:43:37 PM i will most likely be there with a wolverine 350 and hopefully a 05 big bear 400 2wd/4wd with some mods on it
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 20, 2006, 08:28:57 AM one thing you'll know its us is my friends general lee golf cart. I might be bringing mine. if so its red and just as high as my friends. You happen to know Tiffany by any chance? Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: redtree511 on July 20, 2006, 09:12:16 AM Is there a website for this?? So we can get more info.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 20, 2006, 10:37:07 AM Is there a website for this?? So we can get more info. Nope. This isn't the L-cross event. I mean, it's just as big or even bigger than L-cross. It happends every August and February. I think like 8,000 people attended last February. It was very cold but fun as hell. Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 02YamahaBigBear400 on July 20, 2006, 09:30:45 PM 94hardbody4x4: i know a couple tiffanys. which one we talking about. if its in relation to the general lee golf cart that might be the tiff from vero. so then yes i know her.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 20, 2006, 09:35:10 PM 94hardbody4x4: i know a couple tiffanys. which one we talking about. if its in relation to the general lee golf cart that might be the tiff from vero. so then yes i know her. Yup, you got it. I'm good friends with her. I seen a few pictures of the General Lee on her phone so when I heard that I knew it sounded familiar. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for the golf cart. BTW, if you see a white lifted 94' Nissan Pickup, say hi. That'll be me. Wont be white for long, I mean it's f-ing Mudfest, but it'll probably be the only Nissan out there like every other Mudfest. Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 20, 2006, 09:51:00 PM ill be there with family. i got grey F-150 with ATVflorida sticker on back window. also if anyone else wants one of the new ones mr. bones designed i payd the fee at kauffs on northlake in WPB
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: wilburz on July 21, 2006, 08:30:15 PM cant wait
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on July 21, 2006, 10:25:09 PM i wanna go but i probably cant like that is hte weekend before my skool starts witch sucks umm i have never been but i know where it is cna u camp there in a tent lol or do u gotta get a hotel lol
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Bleedsblue on July 21, 2006, 11:30:35 PM You can camp out there. Friday is ATVs only, Saturday and Sunday is open to all vehicles.
Bill Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: strtrcr06 on July 22, 2006, 01:43:54 AM i wanna go but i probably cant like that is hte weekend before my skool starts witch sucks umm i have never been but i know where it is cna u camp there in a tent lol or do u gotta get a hotel lol Yeah, school starts the next day for me. :( Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 22, 2006, 11:49:22 AM i wanna go but i probably cant like that is hte weekend before my skool starts witch sucks umm i have never been but i know where it is cna u camp there in a tent lol or do u gotta get a hotel lol Yeah, school starts the next day for me. :( Ya know, I never thought about that. I guess I'll be starting that Monday as well. O well, Mudfest comes first. I'd like to go Friday on ATV only day but it's crouwded enough on Sat. and Sun. Plus, I dont know if I'd want to be around just atv's for a day because alot of those guys out ther are Dumba$$es. Last Feb. I almost ran one over because he decided his aTV was more important than my truck so he cut my off. Almost killed him, that idiot. Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: BOOOKIE on July 22, 2006, 08:31:53 PM I'm sooo there !!!
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on July 23, 2006, 09:52:57 AM can u camp there
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Bleedsblue on July 23, 2006, 11:47:40 AM can u camp there You can camp out there. Friday is ATVs only, Saturday and Sunday is open to all vehicles. Bill Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on July 23, 2006, 04:15:43 PM I am going to drive from Naples... can I still camp there friday night if I have a buggy and I just leave it on the trailer because of the ATV's only friday?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on July 23, 2006, 04:17:55 PM Also does anyone have a flyer to post on here?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Bleedsblue on July 23, 2006, 07:08:51 PM Someone had posted this phone number in another thread.
863-697-1167 I believe I had heard you could go out there with the buggy but it had to stay trailered till Saturday. Bill Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: fdatv on July 23, 2006, 08:24:23 PM me and mi buddie will b there 8)raisin >:D
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 23, 2006, 09:44:30 PM yeah you have to keep buggy on trailer until sat morning. also they were very strict on night riding last time there. those trucks gone wild guys bring some bad a$$ trucks out there also.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on July 24, 2006, 12:47:58 PM alrighty thanks for the information! this will be the first time i have been there, i am iching to go riding. see yall there i will be in my buggy.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f77/IXIswamperIXI/th_DSCN3130.jpg) (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f77/IXIswamperIXI/DSCN3130.jpg) Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sling-n-mud on July 24, 2006, 01:04:01 PM Is there a charge to get in? Also, are there places for a 2X4 to ride, or is it truly all mud...of course, we love to sit around and watch that, too!!
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on July 24, 2006, 01:07:29 PM I havent been there but i am pretty sure there is a charge... as for 2x4's i couldnt tell yea sorry
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 24, 2006, 05:17:39 PM when we were out there it was 10 a day. as for mud there was a place for everything. the 2x4 hole was in the south east side of big hole, and another one in about 500ft east of big hole but after 3p.m was pretty sloppy.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: swamp doctor on July 25, 2006, 01:42:43 AM i think the flyer i got in feb said it was goint to 40 buck for the weekend i like l-croos but thi one blow it away my kid start school on the 9th but they are going to skip fri
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 25, 2006, 12:46:17 PM if anyone has a flier can they fax it to me. i left message for the guy who runs it to fax one but no reply yet.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: MIKE D on July 27, 2006, 12:04:07 AM Will I have a problem getting a 38 foot moterhome pulling a 20 foot trailer with 4 or 5 bikes on it to the camp spot? Where is the tread you got the # from? Any info like gate opeing time on fridaywould be helpfull.
MIKE Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 02YamahaBigBear400 on July 27, 2006, 02:32:58 AM well the road to the camping area isn't bad. the main road in is shellrock but cause it gets busy he has you go around his property which is a field. so its pretty much sand but not sugar sand, but is bumpy. opening time on friday i'm unsure of.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 27, 2006, 02:57:48 PM no you should be fine it pretty wide open area. there isnt much shade out there either. phone # is 863-697-1167
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 27, 2006, 07:50:34 PM who all is going to this one? gonna be pretty big. i was reading on chuckstrucks.net all the guys from trucks gone wild gonna be out there some driving 1400 miles. so im sure will be a big crowd
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on July 28, 2006, 08:34:22 PM You can drive ANYTHING in there. There are many semi-trucks carrying the mud-trucks and tons of motorhomes. Last February I saw an Escalade on 22" go through the mud. That was a sight and he did get an applause.
There is also plenty of room and passable mud for the 2x4's. I'll be on a 2x4 as well. From the looks of last time, things did get pretty sloppy starting mid-Saturday. But depending on how watery ot thick the mud is, 2x4 can be very capable. BTW, I'm very proud to say that I've just payed for my new(first) ATV. I'll be riding that out there like crazy so I hope to run into some of ya'll(not literally)! Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on July 28, 2006, 09:18:56 PM congrats on new ride. what type ya get?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: DirtyBlonde4x4 on August 01, 2006, 12:22:00 PM Ill be there with most of my family and my truck... it says DIRTY BLONDE on the front and ill more than likely be hauling a trailer either with a bronco or with all our 4 wheelers... it was a bunch of fun in february, and this time ill be on my new honda foreman 500... ill be tearin it up...
-Dirty Blonde Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 01, 2006, 01:22:38 PM Ill be there with most of my family and my truck... it says DIRTY BLONDE on the front and ill more than likely be hauling a trailer either with a bronco or with all our 4 wheelers... it was a bunch of fun in february, and this time ill be on my new honda foreman 500... ill be tearin it up... -Dirty Blonde I sent you a PM "DirtyBlonde". Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on August 01, 2006, 01:58:00 PM Me & TRX will be there anyone interested in meetingup in either west palm off of southern & 441 area or down in Ft.Lauderdale let me know we can possibly drive out together.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 03, 2006, 08:19:32 AM I'm heading up there friday night around 7 or so.
What time do the gates close(if at all?) Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: wilburz on August 03, 2006, 09:07:46 AM Me & TRX will be there anyone interested in meetingup in either west palm off of southern & 441 area or down in Ft.Lauderdale let me know we can possibly drive out together. I live right by southern and 441. I am leaving early saturday morning. What day and time do you plan on leaving? Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on August 03, 2006, 11:13:27 AM i was wandering if u can camp in tents there lol
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 03, 2006, 11:28:28 AM i was wandering if u can camp in tents there lol Sure can. There is a vast amount of open space out there to throw a tent on. Alot of people camp out in the back section(North/Eastern I believe). Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on August 03, 2006, 12:53:01 PM Me & TRX will be there anyone interested in meetingup in either west palm off of southern & 441 area or down in Ft.Lauderdale let me know we can possibly drive out together. I live right by southern and 441. I am leaving early saturday morning. What day and time do you plan on leaving? if we go out it will only be for one day & it depends on when he's working Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on August 03, 2006, 03:47:26 PM thanks i think i will be there but one more question if i wanna pay like to be there for the whole weekend does that mean i have to stay in the place casue like i know i will be leavin but coming back the next day so but i want the discount though for coming the whole weekend umm let me know
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 03, 2006, 04:07:51 PM Well, if you decide to leave after you already payed, then they will give you a stamp on your wrist to allow you back in. When you go to pay, just tell them your camping. Then it's just $30 for 3 days instead of $15 ea. day. But if you only going for 2 days then it's not really a discount.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: wilburz on August 06, 2006, 05:06:24 PM bump
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: wilburz on August 07, 2006, 06:52:52 AM 5 more days!
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: MIKE D on August 07, 2006, 08:19:52 AM What time do the gates open friday?
MIKE Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 07, 2006, 08:37:04 AM They open Friday morning. Not sure on the exact time but I have buddys that are going all day friday. Early morning is the best answer I can give you. I'd say show up at noon so you wont have to worry.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: DirtyBlonde4x4 on August 07, 2006, 09:45:09 AM The gates open at 7 a.m. Ill be there right after work on friday, but some of my family got the day off so they're gonna be there earlier to set up camp.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 400 big bear on August 07, 2006, 05:03:10 PM yeah im goingout saturday with 6 other bikes
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: JohnSales on August 07, 2006, 05:28:30 PM Hello to all the mudfesters out there, owner and operator John here we are looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend. If you want to stop by and say hello I will be at the water trough for the 4 wheeler wash. Hope to see everyone there. Be Safe.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: BigDog on August 07, 2006, 06:11:19 PM Hello to all the mudfesters out there, owner and operator John here we are looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend. If you want to stop by and say hello I will be at the water trough for the 4 wheeler wash. Hope to see everyone there. Be Safe. You are a good man Sir. We sure appreciate you opening your land up to us! Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 07, 2006, 08:54:34 PM Does anyone know if there are concession stands there? Sometimes its a whole lot easier buying lunch than making it LOL
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on August 07, 2006, 10:59:03 PM in feb there was 1 or 2 i think.decent food tho.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 08, 2006, 08:24:31 AM Hello to all the mudfesters out there, owner and operator John here we are looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend. If you want to stop by and say hello I will be at the water trough for the 4 wheeler wash. Hope to see everyone there. Be Safe. Where is the 4-wheeler wash? I looked but couldn't find it last year. Is it over by the porto-podys? Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Joedirt on August 08, 2006, 08:46:49 AM The wash in on the south side, right near 70...to the left of the entrance on the fence line.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 08, 2006, 08:50:00 AM Cool, thanks.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on August 08, 2006, 08:59:23 AM I HEARD THAT THE GATES MIGHT CLOSE FRIDAY NIGHT CAN YOU GIVE US A TIME SCHEDULE.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 08, 2006, 04:09:35 PM I asked the owner ( John ) when the gates close Fri. night because I am not going to get there untill late and he said they were not going to close.
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 08, 2006, 04:11:26 PM Oh yea that was as of a couple of days ago... if you just heard your news.
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Joedirt on August 08, 2006, 04:12:44 PM They always have rumors of the gates closing , on Friday...I can not recall if it ever happened.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 08, 2006, 04:18:59 PM Yea I just have to go with John said.... I hope they dont close cause I wont get there until about 8PM LOL it would suck if they close LOL I could always camp on the side of the road :)
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 08, 2006, 05:10:36 PM There's no Night Driving, correct? Thats what I've heard.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 08, 2006, 05:27:03 PM Now I did hear there is NO night driving.
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 08, 2006, 08:32:08 PM That might be a good thing. There are so many idiots out there on atv's that the dark will only make it worse. I just don't see how some of those guys can just cut you off. I was in my truck the whole time last year and they acted like they didn't even see me. I'm really surprised no one has gotten seriously injured out there.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: JohnSales on August 08, 2006, 09:14:42 PM Gates open at 7 a.m. on Friday and do not close at all.
There is no nite riding and you can come and go as you please. Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 561rincon on August 08, 2006, 09:18:14 PM we should be there about 6:30 to wait for gates and then set up camp. is it dry out there? if so too dry for camp fires?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: ucfneed2ride on August 08, 2006, 11:13:12 PM Im pretty sure the fire ban was lifted.
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 09, 2006, 05:38:41 AM Thats one good thing about riding around in a buggy, if a four wheeler flys around a corner and nails my buggy, hes the one not walking away, and have a few pait scratches. But they are all out there having a good time though. Got to take the good with the bad. LOL
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: Joedirt on August 09, 2006, 12:20:02 PM Someone start a Roll call list , and are the campers Camping together?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on August 09, 2006, 01:54:45 PM i think im going to end up coming to this event so it will probably be me going with some friends not sure how many and i dont know if we are camping
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: BigDog on August 09, 2006, 02:02:40 PM Someone start a Roll call list , and are the campers Camping together? Plan to come in Saturday morning and camp wherever group wants. Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 09, 2006, 03:58:48 PM I will be there friday night... is there going to be a ATVflorida caming area?
IXIswamperIXI Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 09, 2006, 04:49:03 PM I think I plan on capming in the usually vacant field directly behind the pay booth. Well, about 100-150yrds behind it. Thats where I had my BBQ and whatnot last time. No one else was there and there was a nice little mudhole next to it to play in.
JohnSales, How is the mud out there? Wet like 2 years agao or dry like last year? Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 09, 2006, 05:47:33 PM Kinda sucks for me I think everyone I invited to go with me and my wife are backing out so I am looking forward to saying hi to everyone. Have fun all !
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 10, 2006, 10:31:35 AM Well, in that case, feell free to offer a ride in the buggy! Look for my truck man, say Hi. My idler arm and centerlink are messed up and I keep bending tie-rods in the Nissan so I cant do to much mudding.
Seeya there guy! Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: IXIswamperIXI on August 10, 2006, 02:18:10 PM I will keep an eye out LOL I use to have a truck I took out all the time but its was always breaking something thats why I went to a buggy. See you out there...
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on August 11, 2006, 08:10:49 PM Me & TRX will be there anyone interested in meetingup in either west palm off of southern & 441 area or down in Ft.Lauderdale let me know we can possibly drive out together. I live right by southern and 441. I am leaving early saturday morning. What day and time do you plan on leaving? If you want to meet us around beeline & northlake you can call my cell 561 718 8006 Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: dnigels on August 11, 2006, 08:16:40 PM I was wandering after u get off the beeline in okeechobee do u take a right or where do u turn let me know ?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on August 11, 2006, 09:41:51 PM is it going to be so crouded that u cant ride ?
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on August 12, 2006, 07:02:19 AM I was wandering after u get off the beeline in okeechobee do u take a right or where do u turn let me know ? youwill see the sign for hwy 70 go north or towards the north & it'll be on the left hand side .... Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: sweetrider215 on August 12, 2006, 07:45:41 PM mudfest was great we did some extreme riding
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: wheelie_boy on August 12, 2006, 08:31:44 PM im going to be out there tommorow, i had football practice on friday and sat, so i had to miss quads only :'(
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 13, 2006, 08:58:02 PM Mudfest was great. Even bigger than last Feb. I think. More organized and mor evendors. Love dit. The bon-fire was nice and the much was good. Very dry compared to last time but it made it easier for us ATV's to get to the middle.
Anyone got pics or what?! Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: yamaha_boy_15 on August 13, 2006, 09:00:05 PM mann
i had too miss it :( sucks! but yes! lets see some pics up! Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: wilburz on August 13, 2006, 09:10:30 PM had a good time on saturday. i will post my pics tommorrow. Good seeing ya BigDog!
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: dnigels on August 13, 2006, 10:40:11 PM had a good time on saturday. i will post my pics tommorrow. Good seeing ya BigDog! We went Saturday. It was awesome. A little crowded by afternoon. I am sure there had to be over 10,000 people out there. The mud was awesome. I have never seen such an assortment of buggies, bad-ass trucks and quads. I'll probably go back in Feb. and camp.Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 14, 2006, 08:37:03 AM Here are the pics.....click the link and go to the "Pictures" section and click on "Mudfest". Enjoy!!!!!!!
http://floridanissantrailriders.com (http://floridanissantrailriders.com) Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: DirtyBlonde4x4 on August 14, 2006, 10:54:33 PM That was the best mudfest yet! lol... I went out there friday mornin' and stayed till sunday... it was a blast... it was all fun but now i have a cold and a sunburn... it was all worth it... i'd do it all over again... So when is the next one gonna be??? Does anyone know??? The bonfire saturday night was fun :T i think we all had a blast... lol
-DirtyBlonde Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: 94Hardbody4x4 on August 15, 2006, 01:07:46 PM FEBRUARY
Title: Re: August Mudfest 11th-13th Post by: FORD4X4GIRL on August 15, 2006, 02:56:03 PM Mudfest was great. Even bigger than last Feb. I think. More organized and mor evendors. Love dit. The bon-fire was nice and the much was good. Very dry compared to last time but it made it easier for us ATV's to get to the middle. Anyone got pics or what?! have some pics will post them asap .... |