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Title: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 10, 2006, 10:06:26 PM
Everyone Local and Non-Local Please try to attend this meeting !!!!
Some of us from Miami did the same thing to Help open the Squares and
drove 2 hrs away to support our friends in Naples !!! (and will keep standing behind them till the END !!!)
We need all the Help we can get !!!!

We will attend this meeting in our trucks with our quads on the trailers !!!!
we have over 50 for sure attending this meeting !!! And we need a lot more !!!

Please i ask for the love of our sport to make an effort and bring friends, children, alll family members !!!
so that they see how many of us really enjoy this sport here in Miami.

Local Newspaper , Media & radio Stations will be attending !!!

This is it right here guys !!!!!!
This is the most important Meeting EVER !!! Will determin the future in our Sport in South Florida !!

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Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: liny521 on July 11, 2006, 01:00:53 AM
I will be there + 4 to support our sport.


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 11, 2006, 11:45:30 AM
29 views and one reply !!!

Come on guys !!!

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Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: ScooterB on July 11, 2006, 06:26:43 PM
We are putting together a group from North Port
(NPORA) North Port Off Road Association

Check us out at www.northportoffroad.com (http://www.northportoffroad.com)




Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 11, 2006, 06:32:18 PM
We are putting together a group from North Port
(NPORA) North Port Off Road Association

Check us out at [url=http://www.northportoffroad.com]www.northportoffroad.com[/url] ([url]http://www.northportoffroad.com[/url])





will you be attending this meeting ??

and if you are how many are you bringing with you !!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: ScooterB on July 11, 2006, 06:34:58 PM
Yes we will be there dont know any #s yet

Any hotels close by??


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 11, 2006, 07:59:57 PM
Yes we will be there dont know any #s yet

Any hotels close by??

Theres hotels alll over miami !!!! Let me know and ill give you some info !!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: AintSkeered on July 11, 2006, 08:23:33 PM
Attendance at this meeting by the locals will be a genuine litmus test. When it was held in Dania, last year, there was a lot of cheap talk, excuses and poor turnout. Law enforcement sees countless trespassers on ATVs, who when caught cite the fact that there are few legal places for them to ride. But, will law enforcement(who are always at these meetings) see enough law-abiding ATVers asking for more legal places to ride?


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: qt314nfla on July 11, 2006, 08:27:30 PM
I've posted on several threads for the same event.  I'll be there w/ the NPORA as well.


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: lswjth2 on July 11, 2006, 10:28:45 PM
This is it folks. We have been given an awesome opportunity, dont blow it.The time to stand up and be counted has arrived.....


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 11, 2006, 10:56:23 PM
Come on guys this is it !!!!!!!

We need everyones HELP !!!!


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Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: nena on July 11, 2006, 11:01:34 PM
I'll be there with as many ppl as I can convince to join us  ;)!!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: Miami450R on July 12, 2006, 01:01:12 AM
IM THERE :)


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: Thrumud on July 12, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
Bump for a cause !


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: Thrumud on July 12, 2006, 11:18:07 AM
Need to have at least 100 riders.  Come on we need more people.  If you can't make it tell grandma to go !   


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 12, 2006, 05:32:18 PM
Need to have at least 100 riders.  Come on we need more people.  If you can't make it tell grandma to go !   

Thanks for all your Help !!!!
We have a pretty big group going from our end of the Family !!!

But we need many more to go and support !!!!

How many People from Miami alone on this site ??


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: nena on July 13, 2006, 04:04:19 PM
Everyone Local and Non-Local Please try to attend this meeting !!!!
Some of us from Miami did the same thing to Help open the Squares and
drove 2 hrs away to support our friends in Naples !!! (and will keep standing behind them till the END !!!)
We need all the Help we can get !!!!

We will attend this meeting in our trucks with our quads on the trailers !!!!
we have over 50 for sure attending this meeting !!! And we need a lot more !!!

Please i ask for the love of our sport to make an effort and bring friends, children, alll family members !!!
so that they see how many of us really enjoy this sport here in Miami.

Local Newspaper , Media & radio Stations will be attending !!!

This is it right here guys !!!!!!
This is the most important Meeting EVER !!! Will determin the future in our Sport in South Florida !!

We need to find out before the meeting if there is enough space to bring the trailers... the location is across Jackson South Community Hospital and we CAN'T block the street!!! If anything the ones with a truck can bring at least one bike!!!! My 2 cents!!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: logger on July 13, 2006, 04:17:23 PM
My 2 cents bringing a bike with trailer isn't going to really help. What will help is that you put your comments in at the meeting, there will be a time for public comments.

Agenda is:

OFF-HIGHWAY RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
August 4, 2006
Miami-Dade County Parks - Palmetto Golf Course
9300 SE 152 Street, Miami, Florida 33157

  10:00 a.m.   Welcome and Introductions          Jim Karels, DOF
                        Andy McCall, MDCP
 
  10:15 a.m.     Selection of Officers            John Waldron
      Special Recognitions

  10:30 a.m.   Approval of Minutes            Committee Chair

  10:40 a.m.   OHV Titling Update            Stan Kirkland

  11:00 a.m.   Statewide OHV Public Lands Update      John Waldron   
                        
  11:30 a.m.   Statewide OHV Private Sites         Stefis Demetropoulos 
 
  11:45 a.m.     OHV Workshop Update         Jack Terrell


 12:00 p.m.   Lunch –

  1:00  p.m.   Legislative Issues            Winn Peeples
      - 2006 Legislative Issues       

  1:30 p.m.   Public Outreach            John Waldron

  2:00 p.m.   New Business - Agenda                   Committee Chair

  2:20 p.m.    Public Comments            Committee Chair
 
  2:50 p.m.   Schedule Next Meeting         Committee Chair

  3:00 p.m.   Meeting Adjourned
 
Hotels:

Hotels Near Miami-Dade County Parks - Palmetto Golf Course
9300 SE 152 Street, Miami, Florida 33157

Miles
0.7    Quality Inn South At the Falls   14501 S. Dixie Hwy (US 1)
                   1-877-424-6423

3.8   Best Western Floridian Hotel      10775 Boulevard, Cutter Ridge
                   1-800-780-7234

3.8   La Quinta Inn Miami/Cutler Ridge   10821 Caribbean Blvd., Cutler Ridge
                   1-866-725-1661

4.7   AmeriSuites Miami/Kendall      11520 S.W. 88th Street
                  1-800-833-1516.

5.0   Hampton Inn Miami-Dadeland   8200 SW 70 Avenue
                  1-800-HAMPTON
Important issue Legislation:

CHAPTER 2006-290
House Bill No. 7079
Section 3. Effective July 1, 2008, section 261.10, Florida Statutes, is amended to read:

261.10 Criteria for recreation areas and trails; limitation on liability.—

(1) Publicly owned or operated off-highway vehicle recreation areas and trails shall be designated and maintained for recreational travel by off-highway vehicles. These areas and trails need not be generally suitable or maintained for normal travel by conventional two-wheel-drive vehicles and should not be designated as recreational footpaths. State off-highway vehicle recreation areas and trails must be selected and managed in accordance with this chapter.

(2) State agencies, water management districts, counties, and municipalities, and officers and employees thereof, which provide off-highway recreation areas and trails on publicly owned land are not liable for damage to personal property or personal injury or death to any person resulting from participation in the inherently dangerous risks of off-highway vehicle recreation.  This subsection does not limit liability that would otherwise exist for an act of negligence by a state agency, water management district, county, or municipality, or officer or employee thereof, which is the proximate cause of the damage, injury, or death. Nothing in this subsection creates a duty of care or basis of liability for death, personal injury, or damage to personal property, nor shall anything in this subsection be deemed to be a waiver of sovereign immunity under any circumstances.

Section 4. Effective July 1, 2008, section 261.20, Florida Statutes, is created to read:

261.20 Operations of off-highway vehicles on public lands; restrictions; safety courses; required equipment; prohibited acts; penalties.—

(1) This section applies only to the operation of off-highway vehicles on public lands.

(2) Any person operating an off-highway vehicle as permitted in this section who has not attained 16 years of age must be supervised by an adult while operating the off-highway vehicle.

(3) Effective July 1, 2008, while operating an off-highway vehicle, a person who has not attained 16 years of age must have in his or her possession a certificate evidencing the satisfactory completion of an approved off-highway vehicle safety course in this state or another jurisdiction. A nonresident who has not attained 16 years of age and who is in this state temporarily for a period not to exceed 30 days is exempt from this subsection. Nothing contained in this chapter shall prohibit an agency from requiring additional safety-education courses for all operators.

(4)(a) The department shall approve all off-highway vehicle public safety-education programs required by this chapter as a condition for operating on public lands.

(b) An off-highway vehicle must be equipped with a spark arrester that is approved by the United States Department of Agriculture Forest Service, a braking system, and a muffler, all in operating condition.

(c) On and after July 1, 2008, off-highway vehicles, when operating pursuant to this chapter, shall be equipped with a silencer or other device which limits sound emissions. Exhaust noise must not exceed 96 decibels in the A-weighting scale for vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1986, or 99 decibels in the A-weighting scale for vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1986, when measured from a distance of 20 inches using test procedures established by the Society of Automotive Engineers under Standard J-1287.  Off-highway vehicle manufacturers or their agents prior to the sale to the general public in this state of any new off-highway vehicle model manufactured after January 1, 2008, shall provide to the department revolutions-per-minute data needed to conduct the J-1287 test, where applicable.

(d) An off-highway vehicle that is operated between sunset and sunrise, or when visibility is reduced because of rain, smoke, or smog, must display a lighted headlamp and taillamp unless the use of such lights is prohibited by other laws, such as a prohibition on the use of lights when hunting at night.

(e) An off-highway vehicle that is used in certain organized and sanctioned competitive events being held on a closed course may be exempted by departmental rule from any equipment requirement in this subsection.

(5) It is a violation of this section:

(a) To carry a passenger on an off-highway vehicle, unless the machine is specifically designed by the manufacturer to carry an operator and a single passenger.

(b) To operate an off-highway vehicle while under the influence of alcohol, a controlled substance, or any prescription or over-the-counter drug that impairs vision or motor condition.

 (c) For a person who has not attained 16 years of age, to operate an off-highway vehicle without wearing eye protection, over-the-ankle boots, and a safety helmet that is approved by the United States Department of Transportation or Snell Memorial Foundation.

(d) To operate an off-highway vehicle in a careless or reckless manner that endangers or causes injury or damage to another person or property.

(6) Any person who violates this section commits a noncriminal infraction and is subject to a fine of not less than $100, and may have his or her privilege to operate an ATV on public lands revoked. However, a person who commits such acts with intent to defraud, or who commits a second or subsequent violation, is subject to a fine of not less than $500 and may have his or her privilege to operate an ATV on public lands revoked.

(7) Public land managing agencies, through the course of their management activities, are exempt from the provisions of subsection (5)(a).

Stewards of the Land
Off Road Recreational Assoc.
 



Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 13, 2006, 05:15:00 PM
good info logger !!!!

Thanks !!!!

...Just for your info the following people will be there...

1 House of Representative
1 Person from the Ocala National Forest (was just told)
Media
Newspaper
Radio
Ft Meyers group


Hey there needs to be more ATV enthuastics than Government people...We gotta to represent....


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We had a meeting with Miami Dade Park & Recreation (Barbara Elsy & Andy McCall), WRT (Wallace Roberts & Todd LLC) - Planning & Design, SFWMD, AND DERM....
and they are working with us, www.atvmiaxtreme.com and also with www.thehumponline.com

We had a sit down meeting...they provided a huge south florida map, and we pointed some of the places we would like a park to be in!!!! and they are very interested in trying to find a location for us atv enthusiast , not only for us but also for the environment !! Its soo much more to it that i wont get into it right now !!

but they are on our side !!
and they will be attending the meeting on Aug 4th

thats why everyone needs to be there !!!!

Right now they have 6 months, till January 2007 to find a location for a possibly Atv trail system park, yes not an MX park but a trail system for Sport Quads, 4X4, Pilots , GoPeds, Go Karts all of the above !!

So thats why its very important that we all unite and come as one to the Meeting and show them in a high level of professionals that we are, and show them how many here in South Florida enjoy this sport !!
They want to see numbers !! How many we really are for them to even consider opening a park for our hobby !!!

Hope everyone takes this serious and can try to make it to this meeting Aug 4th!!!!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: logger on July 13, 2006, 06:57:42 PM
DjLeOo:

If you could get me the email address and name of the person from the house of Reps, Stewards of the Land can email a letter to that person before the meeting. It is up to you guys.


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 14, 2006, 01:23:06 PM
DjLeOo:

If you could get me the email address and name of the person from the house of Reps, Stewards of the Land can email a letter to that person before the meeting. It is up to you guys.

Let me know if you got that info ??

Thanks !!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 14, 2006, 01:23:43 PM
Here are some pics of the Meeting we had with
Miami-Dade Parks  & Recreation , DERM , WRT & SFWMD

We are not playing around !!! This is serious !!!

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Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: miamigirlrider on July 14, 2006, 02:00:21 PM
Told you we dont play here in the 305.... lol... Hope to see you all here on the 4th of Aug....


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: AintSkeered on July 14, 2006, 04:32:29 PM
Please, please remember something DjLeOo has already stated in these posts, these OHV Advisory cmte and some law enforcement people ARE on our side! So, be respectful of their efforts and don't address criticism at them. Others(including some law enforcement and canoe paddlers) in the audience may/will be representing the opposition, not the OHV Committee people, but, I can't see how it would help to piss them off with inconsiderate or aggressive comments, either.


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 15, 2006, 02:19:11 PM
Please, please remember something DjLeOo has already stated in these posts, these OHV Advisory cmte and some law enforcement people ARE on our side! So, be respectful of their efforts and don't address criticism at them. Others(including some law enforcement and canoe paddlers) in the audience may/will be representing the opposition, not the OHV Committee people, but, I can't see how it would help to piss them off with inconsiderate or aggressive comments, either.

You are totally right !!!!
We are all professional adults, and will keep fighting for legal land to ride in Miami !!!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: miamigirlrider on July 17, 2006, 09:22:45 AM
Aintskeered your right and like DJLEO said we are professional adults that are coming to this meeting as concerned citizen/parents/riders. We are not going to fight or argue, communication is key when getting your point across. As was our rally this meeting will be peaceful but full of visual and information.

In other words, we are here to make a stand, to show elected officials and the appropriate agencies that its a must to open a legal park to keep so many riders safe including the kids.


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: miamigirlrider on July 17, 2006, 04:34:08 PM
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Letter from Brooke from humponline and my letter that was published on yesturdays Miami Herald

Come on guys we need you to come out and support us....


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 19, 2006, 11:29:07 AM
2 more weeks !!!!

i need support from this site guys !!!

come on guys any locals from Miami attending this meeting ???


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: Southern4x4 on July 20, 2006, 09:15:13 AM
me adn my group are gonna go,my friend is gonna pass out flyers to other friends with atvs!!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 23, 2006, 09:27:45 AM
Goood thanks for your support !!!!



Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: Southern4x4 on July 25, 2006, 09:32:16 AM
bump for a good cause


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: cheropride on July 26, 2006, 05:41:12 PM
I live in Broward (954), will try to make it.  I will let you know if I can....


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: DjLeOo on July 30, 2006, 09:00:21 PM
We are less than 1 week away !!!!!

We need everyones support !!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: UncleRico on July 30, 2006, 09:50:03 PM
Has anyone ever thought of contacting the factories (Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Polaris, Kawasaki, etc) to see if they have representation or lobbyists?

You would think they would have some sort of support to keep riding areas from being shut down.

They obviously have a vested interest. 


Title: Re: Miami OHV Advisory Commitee Meeting
Post by: Thrumud on August 01, 2006, 10:20:58 PM
To my knowledge some local dealers will be present.  I will be there and will post the outcome of the meeting.