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NEW NEWS  Trail Days-  The Grand opening of the new Trail system is at 9:30 AM Saturday Sept 30th.  Their will be at least 2 seperate rides.  1 for sport ATV's on the Pipeline Trail and one for Ute's on the Longleaf trail.  The Family ride on the Longleaf will allow you to either ride 1/2 way or the Full 29.5 miles.

GREAT NEWS-  any family that joins ONFA ($50) prior to Sept 23rd. will get FREE camping at Lake DeLancy campground that weekend.  In addition, all family memberships get 4 tee shirts.  Paypal account will be setup later this week to pay.

Terry,

Depending on date and my work I would be interested along with the wife.

Mike

hi i am new to this stuff i am interested in coming where is going to be at

GrizzlyBear, will a Rhino be accesible on the new trail/ride?

me and my son will go(but isn't that huntin season??????)

We are trying for the end of Sept, and yes, we (I ride a Rhino) can travel on 137 of the 150 miles

I say we can make the whole 150 miles :D

It's been almost a year since I have been to the forest, wouldn't be a bad change-up.

im in for sure with a few sports
will this be a fast ride or slow ?

im in where do we meet up

Their are 7 of us that ride together. I think we would all be interested. Just have to have more info.

I might go, but won't do the long distance or slow riding.  But I'd check up with the ONFA and see what's what for sure.

Not that I expect the date to revolve around me but I have the September 8th through the 11th off for my Birthday.
I would definately be in for that weekend. 8)

I guess I need to get the brakes fixed on my Rubi before then huh ;-)

Id@

Date to be Saturday Sept 30th

Hey GrizzlyBear,

     Are the new trails 1 way traffic?

Thanks,
Freakk

The new trails are 2 way.  It is a proven fact that if you have 1 way only people ride at a higher speed and the trails are more dangerous

How will the hunting season Effect the Sept 30th ride. Just curious because the last time I was in the Forest riding durring Hunt season I had a rifle aimed at me for stopping Under the powerlines next to a trail head opening. Those guys acted like they were going to shoot whether I moved or not.
Dont get me wrong, I am all for Hunting but that was Bull....lony 8)

We are fine with Hunting Season.  General gun starts Nov 11th

I'm interested.  I may be hitching a ride in TQG's rhino though if I haven't got my quad back.

My family and I are there!  How far is the starting point from Big Scrub campground?  Are there any commercial campgrounds that are closer/better?  There will be at least 4 of us and I'll be trying to rally together more.  Now if I can just get her to let me buy another 4x4......     8)  We're looking forward to meeting all of you.

I would be safe to say that the Norris family will be there and many from our street as well. this early in the game I would say atleast
 15 quads

Who came up with this idea? I would think it would be the opposite. I would rather have someone run up on me than run into me.

Hi, newbie to website, interested in Sept 30 ride. I've been watching the posts for several months now to keep up with the info in the ocala area.

Can u ride a kubota diesel engine in forest ? (like a rhino)
I would need more info on meeting area

would bring the family, 2 quads and kubota

thanks

I will check on the kubota.

Is it gonna be one big group? or several small groups? and whats the quality of the trail? If theres alot of mudd I probably wont come.

And is it going to be a slow, moderate, or fast ride..?

The trails generally do not have a lot of mud.  They should be in good shape by then, as the trail maintenance equipment should be here before then.  Depending on what people want, we will probably have multiple rides. sme short and some long.  Probably the rides will be relatively slow as we believe in the principle of "tread lightly"

I agree 100% with eworm.  I can't say that I would go any faster-unless I had a faster quad I guess, if it was one or two way trail system.  I have ridden some of the new trail system and was suprised to see it was two way.  Don't get me wrong-loving the marked trail system, but can't see how the trails are more dangerous having it one way.  Just my opinion.

Anyways, myself and a few others will be there as long as work doesn't get in the way.

Thank you in advance for checking to see if we can bring the kubota


Kim

They actually will do trail maintenance. They have equipment to do trail maintenance.

2 major pieces of equipment are on order. A Swego and a Coot. The Swego is a special bulldozer to level the Whoops, and the Coot is an articulated piece of equipment to rake the trails.

I agree with you guys also, If anyone ever rode on a Speed Ride they'll tell you the experience would be much better and safer if the trails were one way. We never had any problems back then because we never saw anyone once we were back into the trails and because there were so many trails to take. Now your taking X number of vehicles and limiting their trails to ride, then your sending them into 2 directions on one trail system. NOW THAT'S DANGEROUS  :o

It is not the intent of the trail system to provide a place for  "speed rides"  This is a trail system to be enjoyed by families. Safe and reasonable speeds are required.  If you want speed rides, you will need to go to motocross tracks.  It is a proven fact nationwide the 2 way trails are safer, because you must maintain safe speeds.

My son and I will attend, worse case scenario is  just me.

Brian

There is a huge difference between riding track and riding through a trail at a high rate of speed. Will there be speed signs? What is the max speed alllowed? Can you pass? Seems like this is not going to work and most people are just not seeing that. It also seems like you or however is in charge is catering to 4x4's. Do the people over there have any idea how many sport quads visit the forest on a yearly basis? There are way more sport's than 4x4's out there on any given day. We all pay the tax dollars, we all should be able to enjoy.

Grizz: Is there any way you can provide us with a list of people who are making these decisions please?

I am sure some emails with ideas and thoughts will go along way.

Thanks

I think you feel like you make all the rules for ONF. Honestly, I do! You constantly come up with rules to please yourself and what you like. What's considered fast to you may be slow to someone else and vice versa. When we do speedrides we ride fast when it's appropriate and safe. Last I checked the forest was for everyone that wanted to ride and enjoy the forest. Not just for you and your set ways my friend  ;)

I only answered with what had been proven at the forum in May by the experts.  They have been involved in the design and development of many great trail systems.  It is these experts that were behind the Forest Service and how they designed this system.  What I was stating was not my opinion, but was why they put the two way trails instead of one way.  The Forest Service was involved in the start of the Tread Lightly program, and believes that in order to make the trail system sustainable, it must adhere to those principles.  Believe me, I know that different speeds are acceptable, but the purpose of ONFA is to make sure we have places to continue to ride.  If you do not agree, so be it, everyone is allowed their own opinion.

The trails we are doing most of the ride on are multiple purpose.  The kubota will be OK

Lets try to keep this topic to the Sept 30th ride.  I have started a new topic for peoples ideas and suggestions.

   Ok I'll be there with one or two riders but how do I get to the OHV Center on FR 88 I know where Rodman Dam is but never been to FR88 ?

We are in. At least two, maybe more as the date gets closer. 

I'll be there with my peeps but Terry I want to drive the coot.

Can I ride my 2006 Arctic Cat TRV 4x4 out there  ( 2 UP) with my girl? I really wanna go!!! :)

We are in, probably 2 or 3.

Hey Grizzly, I stay at Elite in Salt Springs and have ridden some newly marked trails in that area off of highway 316.  Really nice and was marked with the flat markers.  Is this the same area you are referring to.  I will be up there for the labor day weekend.   Last time i was up there we met some rangers and they were advising us of the new changes.  I followed the markers to the T and didnt have any issues and rode responsibly. Would like to have you be more specific as to where everyone is meeting. 
Thanks
Scrubrat

The meeting place is what is now called the OHV center.  Many people may remember it as the Seed Orchard.  It is located about 3 miles north of Hwy 316 (between Salt Springs and Eureka) on Forest Road 88.  This is a dirt road and takes you into about the middle of the trail system.  It is a large fenced in area that the Forest Service will let us use for group rides, so that we do not overwhelm any trailhead.  We are trying to make this the grand opening of the trail system and a introduction to the ONFA at the same time.  We will be doing a membership push at that time.  We are hoping to have TV and the newspapers there. 

We already have about 70 people signed up, so we will be doing many rides.  We will try to cover some of the trails that are for motorcycle only, atv only and multi-use trails.  The multi-use trails will allow rhinos, kubotas, rangers and the arctic cat unit like the rhino.

are they going to allow 2up riding on 1 person atvs, and are helmets required

As a sponsored ride, we can only allow what the manufacturer says the vehicle is built for.  If it says no riders, then that is all we can allow.  Regarding helmets, we suggest you wear them, and if you are under 16, you must (state law)

Where's the OHV Center (old Seed Orchard) on FR 88? Does FR88 intersect with 19, somewhere between Big Scrub and Delancey? Or, how would I get there from the turnpike(coming from south)?

what about the guys that are into GNCC racing? There are no tracks for that , so the woods is where they practice.

My son and I will be there.
If anyone can post directions or GPS coordiates it would be appreciated.  Where is it in relation to Big Scrub?

North part of the Forest.  Take 19 north to Salt Springs, go west on 316 until you get to FR 88, go north about 3 mi to OHV Center on the Right

Are any kids going? My 10 year old daughter would love to ride with other kids.

Bring the kids, this is a family ride

60 plus riders so far.  Remember, we are starting at the OHV center, but we are going to have more then one ride. We will have shorter rides for families with small kids, ride for dirt bikes on the motorcycle trail, ride for sport quads so you can go a little faster and one that takes you on the atv only section of the trails.  Bring your lunch, we have plenty of room to picnic (though not much in the shade).

Mr. Fixit,  I'll have my 10 year old son there.

I see Salt Springs on 19, but, I don't see 316 on Mapquest's map of ONF. I see 314. How north of Delancey is 316?

316 is in Salt Springs it only runs to the West from Hwy 19. It's right where the entrance to Elite campground is. It is south of Delancy.

Is anyone from the Clermont area going? I would like to follow some one that has been there before.

Hey Grizz...Going to check out the new trails sometime in the near future and wondered if you can get me to the Rodman Trailhead from what I see as 77 going west...( staying in Palatka ). So I'm coming down 19 S. and hit 77 W and where do I turn north to get to the trailhead??

If your coming south from Palatka on 19 you will cross a large bridge over the cross florida barge canal. It's right where you enter the forest. First road across the bridge going West is the road you want to take. You will cross the dam, take the road till it ends, park there and start riding.

how many sports are going? sounds like a good time but i dont want to putt putt in 3rd gear all day  :P

Now sure how many, but Chillinthemost will be leading on a seperate trail (pipeline Trail) and IT200, who is a Trail Ranger will be following with a Forest Service radio in case there is a problem

Thanks IT ;)

I'm going to be bringing both of my quads if I can make it,,,,,a sport and a ute.

Id@

  May have 4 sports attending ..........

count me and my girl friend in

me and my son will be there with our 2 sports

I hope he can ride. Because, if he can't he will be following far behind........

he rides a banshee he will have no problem keepin up!!!!!

WILL THERE BE ATVFLORIDA BUMPER STICKERS AND/OR T-SHIRTS FOR SALE AT THE SEPT.30TH RIDE?

good question, I'll ask Mr. Bones if he has any left.

Id@

If we already have a sticker on the truck and trailer we get to park in the shade,right ;)

ill talk to dad bout goin. so if we can make it there wll be 4 (2 utes and 2 sports).

My friends wife rides a Banshee and we have to wait for her sometimes........

that is cause she is a girl. my sister rides like 10 mph. my aunts both ride like 10 mph. my mom rides like 10 mph. i like to go bout 50-60. my dad rides the 300ex and tries to keep up. i go like 500-1000 yards and stop and wait 15 mins for them to catch up and then repeat.

Come on lil man. Don't jump if you can't swim. Everyone knows it is 90% rider/ 10% bike (some even say 95:5) so the fact that he rides a Banshee means absolutely nothing to me. Either way, I know for a fact that he does not ride a Banshee so it really does not matter.

Have a great day

i ride a 300ex it aint that slow if you go full throttle in fifth gear

i dont jump in cause i cant swim (really). anyway like i said she is a girl and like you said 90% rider 10% bike. the bike is fast. she dont ride fast. girls dont ride fast (at least in most cases). so like you said 90% rider and 10%bike.

o btw why does that say he? you said your friends wife. o well.

I mightnot make the sept.30th ride I was informed today that sept. 30thwill be a mandatory workday because the company is switching  over to a new computer system.so thats the kind of luck I have of all the weekends they had to pick that one.I'm still gonna  try to worm my way out of it but it don't look to promisin.and I've been lookin forward to this ride since it was anounced.

ok if i decided to come what are ALL the requirements. like $, time, etc. all that stuff will be nice. and do you have to be a member of onfa to ride?

We would love to have you join ONFA, and have tried to give you incentives.  However, this ride is for everyone.  There is no charge. Registration is at 8:30am an the ride will start just after we cut the ribbon at 9:15 am  So please come, the more the merrier.

we are considering it. ill see if i can get off. just started yesterday. so its free? cool. we are considering joining the onfa. if nothin else we can get some ridin shirts. im sure it will be a great help if everyone joins though.

Alright all you self proclaimed "sport riders" you might have the equipment but do you know how to use it.
 I've been asked to lead those that want a faster paced ride. So how fast and how far do you want to go? I'm going to do some pre-riding this weekend and see what I can come up with. Trail conditions (dust) and the #of riders will make a big difference in what we are able to do. I'm thinking pack a Camelpack and fill your tanks and we'll start with about a 50 mile loop.
 My wife and 3 kids will be doing the regular ride and we will probably meet back up at the starting point for lunch.
 I've ridden with some of you in the past and looking forward to meeting some new people.

If there is gonna be a fast ride for the sport bikes i might show up, will know for sure when the date gets a lil closer...

I forgot to mention that because of the faster pace of the sport ride only Yamaha riders will be allowed to join us. Honda riders will have to ride with the women and children. :-*  Git it RAG :drive.gif               

well dont worry my stock lil honda will keep up just fine with your yamaha, unless u go 2 slow then i would just have to pass the yamaha's....

I suggest you be nice on the "it's because she's a girl" comments.  There are several women on this site that could very likely out ride ya.  Nothin' worse than eatin' crow.  Nice to see you caught yourself on the second comment.  Now realize I'm not talking about me cause I am just learning how to get the bike out of first gear.  I have to get off and push it across the water due to lack of power and speed.  Watch out for Mrs.Nightbreed, and Jen Albright though.  They'll put you to shame.

Oh man! I am riding the 400 EX now. Made some mods and she is screaming. Honestly, she was fast enough stock. Can't wait Matt. I hope it is cool if my wife and kid stay close to your family, I think the women will get along great. They will also be in a Rhino.

I would have to agree 100%. I think fox 17 is a kid however.

Maybe so but you obviously haven't met the women I ride w/.  I know many women on this site that ride utes and sports that can ride every bit as well as the majority of the men here.  I'm still on a ute and she'll only go 60mph.  So I'm still running slow.  When I get my z400 next year it'll take some seat time before I'm up there w/ y'all.  Have no doubt though unless someone slow is in front of me you won't be waiting 15 minutes.

I'm curious to see who sacks up on the sport ride myself.

i'm working on making it to the sport ride...hopefully all will pan out and i'll be there...

should be a fun one........I hope I can keep up

do i need to have the lil green sticker on my bike for this ride?, and will i get introuble if i dont have one?

this sounds great how many can i bring in a group we have at least 20 to25 that ride together all the time

Bring as many as you like this ride is for everyone. There will be a fast paced ride and a family ride.

BWAH HAHAHA!! That's funny, QT!!!

Kurt

I think I'll be able to make this ride. Stitch probably won't, as she is having some surgery and might not be recovered enough for it. :'(

Now here is a voice from the past --- I thought you guys moved back to Jersey..

Logger wants to ride this ride too but, my horse just doesn't quailify, it will go as fast as your yamaha's will.

Yep I have to agree that most the women on here can ride just as well as the guys,, the last group ride I went on I kept right up w/ all the guys the whole time and I have a blaster.(yeah i need a new atv!)

im in  probly bring bout  4 sports wiht me  ..     where is the ohv center and  what not?

I did some riding today on the new trails. Since I'm leading the sport ride I thought that it would be a good idea to try and stay on the new trails. They are not marked worth a crap, you come to a fork in the trail and there is no sign to tell you which way to go. They still have a lot of work to do. Going back out tomorrow to ride it some more, now that I think I have it figured out. The ATV pipeline trail is pretty cool because it is either new or really old and not very used. There are some really tight and twisty sections (if your bike and helmet arent scratched up, they will be), some fast sections and plenty of whoops.  Also lots of logs down and plenty of pointed branches waiting to impale you.  I cant give a total mileage for the ride because my GPS turns off in the whoops.   

Could you please take a shovel with you and level off the whoops a bit so it won't be so rough?   And if you have time trim some of those pointy branches.............J/K thanks for doing the homework to make the ride a success  :ThumbsUp.gif

 Went back out today and rode a few more hours, the Pipeline trail is just plain not well marked. I had a trail map and a GPS and its not easy to follow. I'm going to go back up and pre ride some more to get our route dialed in. There are quite a few sections that are new and not beat down at all, barely wide enough to fit through. Those areas will give you guys an idea of what the XC races are like. I'm guessing that it will be around 50 miles.
 By the way I saw a fox, a deer, and a bear on my ride this afternoon.

Um, I'm from Cincinnati. Just been busy with other stuff the last few months.

Chillin'-You're not bringing the Rhinobulance?  :G 

My wife will be driving it. I'm leading the sport ride.

I still have'nt bought my "green sticker" , will the ranger's be giving out tickets or confiscating bike's over it?

they best not,,,,I don't have them yet either.

Id@

Where is it exactly that everyone is meeting up at?I've been somewhere in Delancey before and it was wooped out pretty bad.
  How much is the camping fee there?

We are meeting at the ORV headquarters on FR 88 north of HWY 316. I know the whoops you're talking about and my group wont be going there.

Marion County Emergency mgmt is providing 2 first responders for each ride.  Also, we will have Hot Dogs and soda available when you return at $ .25 each

Terry I always wear a helmet when I ride but for those who don't will it be mandatory?

under 16, it is required, not if you are over that age.