Title: found it on the net lets see if it starts somethin Post by: cain73 on December 12, 2004, 09:20:14 PM I don't know if this story is true or not, but either way it makes a great point. It's kind of long but well worth reading.
Don't close your blinds . . . . . The other day, my nine year old son wanted to know why we were at war. My husband looked at our son and then looked at me. My husband and I were in the Army during the Gulf War and we would be honored to serve and defend our Country again today. I knew that my husband would give him a good explanation. My husband thought for a few minutes and then told my son to go stand in our front living room window. He said "Son, stand there and tell me what you see?" "I see trees and cars and our neighbor's houses." he replied. "OK, now I want you to pretend that our house and our yard is the United States of America and you are President Bush." . Our son giggled and said "OK." "Now son, I want you to look out the window and pretend that every house and yard on this block is a different country" my husband said. "OK Dad, I'm pretending." "Now I want you to stand there and look out the window and pretend you see Saddam come out of his house with his wife, he has her by the hair and is hitting her. You see her bleeding and crying. He hits her in the face, he throws her on the ground, then he starts to kick her to death. Their children run out and are afraid to stop him, they are screaming and crying, they are watching this but do nothing because they are kids and they are afraid of their father. You see all of this, son.... what do you do?" "Dad?" "What do you do son?" "I'd call the police, Dad." "OK. Pretend that the police are the United Nations. They take your call. They listen to what you know and saw but they refuse to help. What do you do then son?" "Dad.......... but the police are supposed to help!" My son starts to whine. "They don't want to son, because they say that it is not their place or your place to get involved and that you should stay out of it," my husband says. "But Dad...he killed her!!" my son exclaims. "I know he did...but the police tell you to stay out of it. Now I want you to look out that window and pretend you see our neighbor who you're pretending is Saddam turn around and do the same thing to his children." "Daddy...he kills them?" "Yes son, he does. What do you do?" "Well, if the police don't want to help, I will go and ask my next door neighbor to help me stop him." our son says. "Son, our next door neighbor sees what is happening and refuses to get involved as well. He refuses to open the door and help you stop him, "my husband says. "But Dad, I NEED help!!! I can't stop him by myself!!" "WHAT DO YOU DO SON?" Our son starts to cry. "OK, no one wants to help you, the man across the street saw you ask for help and saw that no one would help you stop him. He stands taller and puffs out his chest. Guess what he does next son?" "What Daddy?" "He walks across the street to the old ladies house and breaks down her door and drags her out, steals all her stuff and sets her house on fire and then...he kills her. He turns around and sees you standing in the window and laughs at you. WHAT DO YOU DO?" "Daddy..." "WHAT DO YOU DO?" Our son is crying and he looks down and he whispers, "I'd close the blinds, Daddy." My husband looks at our son with tears in his eyes and asks him..."Why?" "Because Daddy.....the police are supposed to help people who needs them...and they won't help.... You always say that neighbors are supposed to HELP neighbors, but they won't help either...they won't help me stop him...I'm afraid....I can't do it by myself Daddy.....I can't look out my window and just watch him do all these terrible things and...and.....do nothing...so....I'm just going to close the blinds.... so I can't see what he's doing........and I'm going to pretend that it is not happening." I start to cry. My husband looks at our nine year old son standing in the window, looking pitiful and ashamed at his answers to my husband's questions and he says..."Son" "Yes, Daddy." "Open the blinds because that man.... he's at your front door..."WHAT DO YOU DO?" My son looks at his father, anger and defiance in his eyes. He balls up his tiny fists and looks his father square in the eyes, without hesitation he says: "I DEFEND MY FAMILY DAD!! I'M NOT GONNA LET HIM HURT MOMMY OR MY SISTER, DAD!!! I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM, DAD, I'M GONNA FIGHT HIM!!!!!" I see a tear roll down my husband's cheek and he grabs our son to his chest and hugs him tight, and says... "It's too late to fight him, he's too strong and he's already at YOUR front door son.....you should have stopped him BEFORE he killed his wife, and his children and the old lady across the way. You have to do what's right, even if you have to do it alone, before it's too late." my husband whispers. THAT scenario I just gave you is WHY we are at war with Iraq. When good men stand by and let evil happen son, THAT is the greatest EVIL of all. Our President is doing what is right. We, as a free nation, must understand that this war is a war of humanity. WE must remove evil men from power so that we can continue to live in a free world where we are not afraid to look out our window so that my nine year old son won't grow up in a world where he feels that if he just "closes" that blinds the atrocities in the world won't affect him. "YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT!, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALONE!" BE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! BE PROUD OF OUR TROOPS!! SUPPORT THEM!!! SUPPORT AMERICA SO THAT IN THE FUTURE OUR CHILDREN WILL NEVER HAVE TO CLOSE THEIR BLINDS..." Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: BIGWORM3699 ( ECP RACING) on December 13, 2004, 06:24:06 AM AMEN, THATS AWSOME CAIN. [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif]
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: Nocturnal on December 13, 2004, 08:31:34 AM Awsome story
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: robo02cop on December 13, 2004, 08:59:44 AM 100% true....awesome story!!!!
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: GregsRancher on December 13, 2004, 09:58:58 AM wonderful story. my bloodline runs through defending this country. fight for this country and die if i must! my father, brother, both grandpas, and their fathers before them fought for this country and some died. i would never hesitate to
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: Hoosier Daddy on December 13, 2004, 11:33:25 AM WOW!!! thats was great!!
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: 96 warrior on December 13, 2004, 12:07:59 PM thats a great story
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: Chuck_Norris on December 13, 2004, 03:27:48 PM [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif] [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif]
we will fight a good fight even if thumb sucking liberals would rather befriend them instead. Standing up to do what is right is the best and only stand we as Americans should take to protect our own freedoms and families. It sickens me to know and watch the beheadings happen and then see military men and women get their lives altered because of mistreatment accusations. where is the referree to call foul on the other team. I need to stop now before I get really wound up. great story Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: COOLRAUL n DOXANNE on December 13, 2004, 06:15:10 PM That was an awsome story. 8)
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 13, 2004, 06:40:44 PM Hey chuck_norris don't worry I am just like you. I say it's war let em get what's coming to them especially for them targeting and torturing civilians. Nobody wants us to be at war, but we had no choice in the matter. We already had one wacked out group come knocking at our door. The last thing we want is a bigger better armed A-hole to come knocking with a nuke or bio weapons.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on December 13, 2004, 06:47:36 PM Quote Hey chuck_norris don't worry I am just like you. I say it's war let em get what's coming to them especially for them targeting and torturing civilians. Nobody wants us to be at war, but we had no choice in the matter. We already had one wacked out group come knocking at our door. The last thing we want is a bigger better armed A-hole to come knocking with a nuke or bio weapons. I'm with you guys (Cain & Chuck). War is war. I also get really wound up on this subject but when you're in a war you fight to win, screw fair. By the way, Great story. Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: CamoPrairie on December 14, 2004, 02:42:09 PM Well said - too bad a lot of people don't see warning signs. The world would be a better place.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 14, 2004, 03:22:56 PM Great story. well done ! GOD BLESS AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 14, 2004, 03:38:13 PM cabin73. great story just past it off to my friends. went your son looks out the window in the brandon area what he see is a thieve stealing your Quad. I hate to hear want happen to Chris daddy. So do want we do in MIAMI. If you do not want to have a thieve in your back yard. Just hang one in the front yard. Works for us! thanks for sharing the story with us.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 14, 2004, 04:38:11 PM Only problem is that is you rid the world of a theif or terrorist you will have some bleeding heart liberal breathing down your throat wanting to prosecute you for being an upstanding citizen. I just saw in the news that Andrea Yates (the woman that drowned her 5 kids) wants her conviction overturned cause a state's witness said that he was on an episode of law and order, therefore isn't credible about the testimony in her trial. I have to ask what is this world coming to ? A woman kills her 5 kids and then wants to be set free cause someone wants to embelish about their acting? I say drown her ! The US would be a better place if we started holding people accountable for their actions instead of making excuses for them.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 15, 2004, 04:13:43 AM You are so right! let hang the liberals and lawyers too and slowly take back country. The funny thing is that we elect those liberals.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: BIGWORM3699 ( ECP RACING) on December 15, 2004, 08:02:01 AM ITS THE LAWYERS IN THIS COUNTRY THINKING OF THERE OWN BEST INTREST LINING THERE POCKETS AND LETTING OFF PEOPLE LIKE THAT MAKE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME SE DROENED HER KIDS SHE SHOULD BE DROWNED. :-[
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: o4250 on December 15, 2004, 11:52:21 AM Some states are trying to abonish the death penalty mines putting in express lane (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/cool/cool-smiley-008.gif)
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 15, 2004, 12:47:59 PM Lets not get carried away and say "we" elect these liberal . I reserve teh right to vote across any party lines, but will never vote for someone that is liberal.
I think we should be more like texas. They have put to death more than 250 convicts since they re-instated the death penalty (I thin in 1980) which is more than most states combined. In California however, the liberal want to abolish it and it takes so long that most die of natural causes before they can be put to death (that is fact not opinion). I agree we need to take back the country not in some crazy overthrow the Gov way but in a way that reforms our system to reflect the values of the majority and the ones that initially set up the system with God, humanity,and freedom in mind instead of giving in to the few loud screaming, liberal, anti-religion, pacifist, vegatarian, tree hugging, freaks. We should go back to being proud of America like our fathers and Grandfathers were in WWII, and be willing to put ourselves out to make sure it stays the way we want it. This is how America became the greatest natino on Earth and returning to it is the only way America will retain the title. America love it or leave it, not take advantage of it then leave her hanging when in need. Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: o4250 on December 15, 2004, 12:56:09 PM Quote Lets not get carried away and say "we" elect these liberal . I reserve teh right to vote across any party lines, but will never vote for someone that is liberal. I think we should be more like texas. They have put to death more than 250 convicts since they re-instated the death penalty (I thin in 1980) which is more than most states combined. In California however, the liberal want to abolish it and it takes so long that most die of natural causes before they can be put to death (that is fact not opinion). I agree we need to take back the country not in some crazy overthrow the Gov way but in a way that reforms our system to reflect the values of the majority and the ones that initially set up the system with God, humanity,and freedom in mind instead of giving in to the few loud screaming, liberal, anti-religion, pacifist, vegatarian, tree hugging, freaks. We should go back to being proud of America like our fathers and Grandfathers were in WWII, and be willing to put ourselves out to make sure it stays the way we want it. This is how America became the greatest natino on Earth and returning to it is the only way America will retain the title. America love it or leave it, not take advantage of it then leave her hanging when in need. [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif] [smiley=ThumbsUp.gif] and get rid of musiic that disses america thats why the majority of kids say they hate it >:( Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: 96 warrior on December 15, 2004, 02:23:34 PM Quote Lets not get carried away and say "we" elect these liberal . I reserve teh right to vote across any party lines, but will never vote for someone that is liberal. I think we should be more like texas. They have put to death more than 250 convicts since they re-instated the death penalty (I thin in 1980) which is more than most states combined. In California however, the liberal want to abolish it and it takes so long that most die of natural causes before they can be put to death (that is fact not opinion). I agree we need to take back the country not in some crazy overthrow the Gov way but in a way that reforms our system to reflect the values of the majority and the ones that initially set up the system with God, humanity,and freedom in mind instead of giving in to the few loud screaming, liberal, anti-religion, pacifist, vegatarian, tree hugging, freaks. We should go back to being proud of America like our fathers and Grandfathers were in WWII, and be willing to put ourselves out to make sure it stays the way we want it. This is how America became the greatest natino on Earth and returning to it is the only way America will retain the title. America love it or leave it, not take advantage of it then leave her hanging when in need. h3!! yeah Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: LakeMaryKid on December 15, 2004, 02:48:49 PM nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, nuke em, get my poinnt? hehe good story ;)
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: atvtrailer on December 15, 2004, 02:49:46 PM by the way that story is true, just if u wanted to know.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: jbbj220 on December 16, 2004, 08:00:02 AM Great story, one we should all pass on. Your second reply was also right on.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: love_to_roost on December 16, 2004, 10:22:23 AM The problem in this country is that the bad guys have more
rights than a law abiding person.Shoot an intruder and see what happens when you get sued by the a$$hole.To h@ll with these easy deaths.People like Scott Peterson and that .guy in Utah should have never been on T.V.String em up and lets move on to something more constructive.As far as the war is concerned,we are there now lets give our men and women all the support and love they need.Lets get the equipment we need to kick these guys butts and get the job done.Why do we worry about the militants rights they dont care when the leave booby traps and bombs on the side of the road.Small Tactical Nuke would work just fine. My .02 Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: dreth on December 16, 2004, 04:45:26 PM your my hero for just typing a story that long. and if your a troop............THANKS ;)
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 16, 2004, 06:12:56 PM I am not a troop or member of the armed forces, my back ground is in local law enforcement. However, I give every ounce of my respect to those men and women in uniform that are fighting, or have fought for this country and for democracy. God Bless them all.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: stretchy on December 19, 2004, 06:02:10 AM Probrably going to ruffle some feathers... I read the posting last night and wasn't going to post. BUT. I think that story is just a little slanted. First of all it was Bin laden that attacked us not Hussien. We tend to pick our battles to suit us. Bin laden is still out there, if anything we should have got him and then, only then, go after Hussien. Saddam was a brutal dictator, very brutal. BUT not even close to the brutallity of Pol Pot of the Kmer Rouge. Who killed millions. China has also had ethnic cleansing, don't forget about Africa they're killing each other w/ machetes. I'm not saying we shouldn't be there. They needed our help, I do object to the way this was done tho. It seems that Haliburton was just awarded another 2.6 BILLION dollar contract to put out the oil fires. What happened tothe bidding. You mean this company can provide all their food wash all their clothes AND put out the fires. What happened to the crews that put the fires out the last time(Mr Adair). Now don't go thinking I'm a commie liberal or nothin. I'm a republican, always have been. But it just seems to me that people tnd to forget what actually happened on 9/11 and I think that people also are trying to gloss over why we were in a big rush to get Saddam, it was supposed to be about WMD, even though none were found. It wasn't about human rights, we were lied to, to get us to go to war. I don't trust Bush Inc. anymore I've lost faith in our government not to be corrupt and self serving. It truly bothers me to think of all the men and women in Iraq under false pretenses, though they are doing a great job. Remember the ends DO NOT justify the means, and might doesn't make right. Sorry to rain on all the patriotic flag waving.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 19, 2004, 07:59:32 AM they are lucky that I wasnt the one in charge of pressing the buttons. before I send one of our kids to fright there. I will warm the sand up a little with some US build Nukes. that whole place will look like a glass table went I am done. just my opinion.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 19, 2004, 08:05:24 AM I am glad and proud that I vote for BUSH. I vote for his Dad and his Brother too. One of the best gov Florida has. I bid you he as a ATV.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 19, 2004, 08:52:07 AM Everyone has their own opinion and they are entitled to it, but..... as far as WMD, they were in Iraq and are prob now in syria. We are still looking for Bin Laden as he was behind the 9/11 attacks. But he and other like him were aided by Iraq (sadam) and are you suggesting that we ignore 1 evil because we have not yet destroyed another? It appears we are able to do both at the same time. And anyone remember D-Day? How many thousands were lost in 1 day? I don't hear anyone crying about that. We have lost a lot of good men and women, but it is unfortunately a price we must pay to ensure our safety, and that of the iraqi civilians. Should we only fight when we can be sure of no loss of life? In that case any one that wants to fight can bring it to our door before we do anything about it. After the advent of subs, strategic bombers, and ICBM's, we can no longer just ignore the rest of the world as "it's their problem and doesn't concern us". We have to think about what it would mean to allow people like sadam to control a country, kill hundreds of thousands of his own people (some through starvation while he builds multiple pallaces ... thanks to the UN and Kofi Annan) and all the while he helps in discrete ways the terrorists that want to destroy our whole country. Stretchy, I agree that there are other evils that need to be dealt with, but like you implied, we have to deal with some at a time not all at once. Right now we are dealing with sadam, his followers, Bin laden and his followers. And because of this the world is a better place. And if nothing else it gives a reason for those other evils to pause and think twice before helping terrorsits, or attacking the US. And I further disagree.....the ends (at times) do justify the means. Sadam should have been dealt with during the first gulf war and been removed then. This time we did not make that mistake. Thank God for a leader like Bush, our true allies (like Englans, not france, Germany, Russia), and most of all the heroic men and women of our armed forces that are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to ensure our safety as well as that of others.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 19, 2004, 09:34:31 AM cain73 you should run for presdent. I will vote for you!
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 19, 2004, 07:47:27 PM Thanks Big Daddy but I'm no politician. I like to stay informed and have a simple way of dealing with things. If it's broke fix it.... if they harbor and help terrorists take them out of power ! I appreciate your support though. Besides my wife would kill me if I started searching for interns :o.
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: big-daddy on December 20, 2004, 04:03:45 AM see ya at rodman ride, Monica is looking for a job. ;D
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: cain73 on December 20, 2004, 05:04:29 AM Have cigar, will travel ;).
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: BEER on December 20, 2004, 11:49:04 AM Great story.Im voting for cain73 too!
Title: Re: found it on the net lets see if it starts some Post by: stretchy on December 20, 2004, 07:56:29 PM Quote Everyone has their own opinion and they are entitled to it, but..... as far as WMD, they were in Iraq and are prob now in syria. We are still looking for Bin Laden as he was behind the 9/11 attacks. But he and other like him were aided by Iraq (sadam) and are you suggesting that we ignore 1 evil because we have not yet destroyed another? It appears we are able to do both at the same time. And anyone remember D-Day? How many thousands were lost in 1 day? I don't hear anyone crying about that. We have lost a lot of good men and women, but it is unfortunately a price we must pay to ensure our safety, and that of the iraqi civilians. Should we only fight when we can be sure of no loss of life? In that case any one that wants to fight can bring it to our door before we do anything about it. After the advent of subs, strategic bombers, and ICBM's, we can no longer just ignore the rest of the world as "it's their problem and doesn't concern us". We have to think about what it would mean to allow people like sadam to control a country, kill hundreds of thousands of his own people (some through starvation while he builds multiple pallaces ... thanks to the UN and Kofi Annan) and all the while he helps in discrete ways the terrorists that want to destroy our whole country. Stretchy, I agree that there are other evils that need to be dealt with, but like you implied, we have to deal with some at a time not all at once. Right now we are dealing with sadam, his followers, Bin laden and his followers. And because of this the world is a better place. And if nothing else it gives a reason for those other evils to pause and think twice before helping terrorsits, or attacking the US. And I further disagree.....the ends (at times) do justify the means. Sadam should have been dealt with during the first gulf war and been removed then. This time we did not make that mistake. Thank God for a leader like Bush, our true allies (like Englans, not france, Germany, Russia), and most of all the heroic men and women of our armed forces that are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to ensure our safety as well as that of others. This could be a long debate |