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Title: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: Gamer on June 17, 2006, 09:53:35 PM
I was looking over the new 2006-07 regulations for Holeylands WMA and it seems they have added a new rule requiring all ATV's to have an orange flag attached at a minimum height of 6 feet.  This also applies to the Everglades WMA on the south side.  Has anyone on here been told about this by an FWC officer out there?  Here is the link to the new rules and it can be found in bold text.

http://myfwc.com/hunting/wma/2006-07/South/HOLEY_LAND.pdf


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: digginfool on June 17, 2006, 10:53:21 PM
That rule used to be enforced several years ago.  You used to also have to have a sticker to ride out there.  I've never been bothered by the Wardens for not having one (a flag; they would bust you for no sticker) but it's also a very good idea.  The tracks and buggies cannot see you if the grass is high.  You could easily get run over.  It's happened in the past.  The flags are inexpensive (about $15.00) and not that big of a deal.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on June 18, 2006, 08:09:40 AM
Before anyone starts whining about the flags, please note that they also removed that former rule which prohibited ATVs from the end of coot season(January) through April 30. So, we can now legally ride there all year. That's actually the best time of the year to ride there, too. The rule used to be listed as #4 under Public Access and Vehicles in the 2005 brochure;
http://wildflorida.org/hunting/wma/South_Region/05-06_HOLEY_LAND.pdf   


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: Gamer on June 18, 2006, 09:54:42 AM
Yeah I don't mind the rule at all.  I already have a nice flag pole that I purchased for river ranch.  I just wanted to make everyone aware of the new rule.  I'm happy to see that we can now ride in Holeylands year around.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on June 18, 2006, 11:21:08 AM
Gamer, thanks for the info. Wasn't aiming the "whiner" comment at you! Just wanted to nip it before it started. Where do you get the flags? Does River Ranch sell them cause I'm just waiting for my campsite to be assigned.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: Gamer on June 19, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
The last time I went to River Ranch they did have flags at the front office for sale.  You might want to call them in advance to make sure they have them.  I believe they were under 10 bucks.  If not you can find them online or at a bike store.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: MachineDog on June 19, 2006, 01:06:35 PM
I thought the sticker thing is only at National Forests. Where can we get them??


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on June 19, 2006, 07:07:33 PM
At any auto tag agency. Just show title or copy of application for title dealer gave you. Otherwise, you'll need to show a bill-of-sale and apply for a title.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: bftclub on June 19, 2006, 09:34:12 PM
when i bought my new honda rincon in 05,i recieved a green registration sticker in the mail.is this going to be a new thing for the county/state to do? my 04 rancher didn't have this..does this mean i'll recieve a sticker with my 06 rubicon?


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: bftclub on June 19, 2006, 09:35:21 PM
the flag issue....does it have to be an orange flag?will a confederate flag work?


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: digginfool on June 19, 2006, 10:00:25 PM
I think the state stopped issuing/requiring stickers to ride in the WMA's somewhere in early '04.  The stickers used to expire June 30 of each year.  I still have the last year on my Prairie.  The only place the state requires stickers now is Croom and Tate's Hell, I believe.  Even if they resurrect it, as long as they use the money to rider's benefit, I don't have a problem with it at all. 


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: bftclub on June 19, 2006, 10:28:03 PM
true,,buying the sticker doesn't bother me at all..atleast it has my vin number on it and lawman can run the number and realize it belongs to me,,might save time and aggravation somewhere down the line


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on June 20, 2006, 07:22:44 PM
Titles are required by law and so are the stickers. The stickers let law enforcement know you're complying with the titling law. They are required to ride on any/all public lands, not just Croom. The Croom sticker is for Croom only, but legally, you must also have the green 06 sticker to ride Croom. It's only confusing only because it's not enforced right now, but, it will be and could be any day. I do not profit from the sale of the $4 green stickers!


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: bftclub on June 21, 2006, 10:23:43 PM
when do you think they will enforce the silly flag rule


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: snowmanzz13 on June 22, 2006, 05:01:01 PM
so has anyone been to holyland to see if the flag issue is really enforced or not, i'd really like to know because my bikes are almost fixed and i don't want to go out there and have them give me a ticket or whatever for not having my flag, any info on this would be appreciated

josh


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on June 23, 2006, 06:19:22 AM
Last Saturday night, there was no signs of enforcement. We'll see Sunday, but, I can't see how the flag law is an inconvenience.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: bftclub on June 26, 2006, 06:32:30 PM
no inconvience,just looks silly


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: pleusb on September 07, 2006, 10:32:39 PM
I was at Holy Land September 1, 2006 and I was given a warning ticket for not having a flag on my raptor. She didnt ask about my registration sticker...


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on September 08, 2006, 03:58:02 PM
I've taken the flag rule so serious that I not only have a flag, but, I also emit a noxious gas from my colon to signal others that I'm approaching.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: MachineDog on September 08, 2006, 04:14:47 PM
LMAO We just bought flags and from taking the quads in and out of the shed mine has actually split in two. We ended up taking them off, but they are now required at holylands for all I know. Stickers are aswell. It ended up being that the flags was the only way we could see our slow as heck buddies way down the trail while we waited for them.


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: AintSkeered on September 08, 2006, 06:52:49 PM
And, if that's what it's going to take to keep Holeyland legal for ATVs, I'd also wear a clown's hat and a one white Michael Jackson glove white!


Title: Re: New Rules at Holeylands?
Post by: pelele on September 09, 2006, 05:17:11 PM
I went to holey lands 2 weeks ago and yes they are enforcing the flag rule...
it has to be orange and it has to be 10"x8"

To machine dog... they also sell flags that are two pieces that you just pull the top part so you can put it in your shed!!