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    6/24 earlier start time? Possibly 6pm. Keep checking this thread, I will post as soon as I know. Rumor is Tim Farr will be racing the Open class 6/24.
Last night obviously was a big turnout, 36 entries:
5 in the Minis
14 in the Beginner
10 in the Intermediate/Junior
7 in the Open/Pro
 Alot of new faces, glad the RTR crew made it out.
   There's a new flagman and some new rules. EXCEPT for the second heats which were extremly dry, the track seemed pretty good, I thought it was awesome in the Main. Post your comments. For those of you still on knobbies, nows the time. If you don't want to buy tires new, flattrack tires are on ebay often or www.ronniesmailorder.com

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Knobbies will make you hate flattrack racing and you'll never get faster unless you run with faster guys...just my opinion.
  Valdosta July 15: I talked to alot of you who said you'll be there. The track is 20 miles over the Ga/Fl line and 2 miles off 75. There is a campground and hotels 1 exit south of the track. The track is fast and smooth but remember no knobbies front or rear. Part of the reason the track goes away at Ocala is the knobbies cut all the goody off the top. The track owner said he would run all the quad classes first so if anyone is driving back home that night you'll have a good start. Spectators pay $7, racers $20. Depending on the turnout, the track may payout cash to the winners.   
   Here's a shot from Ocala 2nd heat Open class...

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Other than some of the rough driving that was going on... I only have 2 complaints..

1, The track was way to dry!
2nd, TAKE A HOT LAP AFTER THE CHECKERD FLAG!! out of the whole intermediate class only myself and 1 other took the lap. I just about nailed a guy because  as i was turning left into turn one and he decided to cut right to get off the track..
It seems no one pays attention to the drivers meetings.


Also, Did I get first in the A main? someone told me because of the "bump and run" he was black flagged and thats why the flag main pointed the checkard flag at me after the race..

can someone find out?

my sister and jason were both in the mini runs. jason came in 2nd in all three heats and my sister came in 3rd in all three heats. its a shame that the trophies hadnt come in yet. they were looking forward to getting them. i really only have 1 complaint:
when we were registering, the lady said that the practice runs had been at 5 pm and that they werent doing them before the races (because they changed it or something).....but nobody from there told us that, so by the time we got there, they had already done the practices....the problem is that we had friends along that were racing and had never been on the track before, so it was harder for them.

I agree on the communication issues... alot of the time my brother gets a call from the track wanting to make some sort of a change...there is no way he can call the 30+ people and spread the news on RACE DAY. if they are going to make changes they need to post it on thier web site days in advance. For some reason it gets dropped on him..

 You are definately right about the practices. I just happened to get there very early to hear of the earlier practice times so since you brought that up, all practice starts at 5 and I am told ends about 6:15 and then track prep and the drivers meeting and green flag at 7pm. We didn't get our trophies either, first time thats happened so my mini rider was disappointed. The minis put on a great show, I heard alot of crowd response. Hope you can bring them next time.

Hey Dave,

Congratulations on your win last night. As far as the 24th race, I sure hope I can get it together I would love to race Tim Farr.

I brought my Son to the Race lastnight and he really enjoyed it!!  I got a chance to meet the folks from ECP great folks!  My Son also got to meet Justin who was racing an Eton 70 I think...  He really wants to try the Mini racing, does anyone know if a mini 90 4 stroke would be legal???  (I'm not much on 2 strokes...)

Oh and my 7 year old was officially thrown out of his first bar!!!!  (missunderstanding on everyones parts.)  :-)

Hibrass

the track was the same old ocala i know!! not that great!! dusty as hell.. now they are changing the starts and where we start. i dont like it. it was perfect the way it was!! dave pulled one off last night squeaking out tim. And remember he did it my style. went from last to first!! !! :o  thats how its done dave!!  ;)
the rtr crew didnt do as good as they expected!!  i think they got 5th and last. hey rtr you were right! your 450R is faster than your 400R!! :-\  i told you they were pretty damn fast. so next time you will have a little more respect for the racers! enough said......  you guys got a ways to go to catch the front runners....
congtats on the win dave! i told you man all it needed was a little tuning and tlc!
now to get to the 2 vs. 4 stroke battle!  THE 2-STROKES ARE BACK BABY!! !! !! ;D
SOON YOU WILL SEE 2-STROKES WINNING BOTH TOP CLASSES!!  we even got doug on a 2-stroke !!
doug man i am telling you if you can get that lt250 running good you will be way faster than you are on the 450R!! and you know this man!! !! !! ::)  once the 2-stroke guys get there bikes running good the 4 bangers are gonna be in BIG trouble!!  mark my words!! !! 8)

 and yes dave you were haul'in when you passed that 4-poke!!  :o

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Scooter,

  I hear what your saying but only 2 people from my "click" (which i thought you were a part of) said something. the other 10 people were from other groups and several of them i dont even know. It seems 90% of the spectators (not racers) thought it was wrong.

Bumping i can understand, but intentionally raming someone isnt racing thats poor sportsmanship. I can speak first hand for Steven if he got into you im sure it was an accident hes NOT a dirty racer, but from your own mouth your buddy is a dirty racer.
I know your coming to your friends defence but even last night you told me you thought it was a cheep shot.. I raced him clean the whole time, and i could have "moved" him but im a better racer than that.


Why do you think the flag man was looking for him after the race?
Like i told you at the track, im not that concered with it but i would like to know the outcome.  i wasnt making an issue out of it in my first post but the "If you wanna race and not get bumped Guess You need to Race Playstation!" comment was a little uncalled for.
your a better racer and a better person than that Scooter..

Yep! that was Justin, Tyler races and Eton 70 as well. Justin has his name on his bike...
Justin can make it to all the races but hes there for a few. Tyler is there for all and is always willing to race.

Doug was one of the ones that commented about the guy slamming into Chris and i agree. Its not a "CLICK" thing its about the safety of everyone on the track! Lets see i recall GASGAS had a crash out on the track by himself, umm Gary had a spil by himself at Sandmountain. They were both bad recks now lets take 2 bike going 55-65 mph crash umm i dont believe that would be good someone is bound to get hurt or even killed. This isnt some motocross track you ride in 2nd or 3rd gear bubba this is a flat track going 55-65 wide open where guys only let out in the corners and some stay wide open the whole time. I can see if you bump into someone yes that happens but dont ram into someone on the track on purpose it just uncalled for and its DIRTY racing. So cut the "click" crap and think about safety we all have to go to work on Monday morning and there is no reason for anyone to race that way. just my opinion think what you want but Chris I got your side on this one. Megan

Well No one was hurt and when i talked to My Friend he said he let off to try and avoid it but it happened anyways,And then your B/f Wants to come get loud with me about it? Dont come disrespecting me for something i have no control over,Next time instead of running that Rattle Trap how about comming to the person that You have the problem with instead of sittin around talk sh!t behind their Back

Be a man!

                Scooter

Chris,
  Let me get this cleared up right away.

 The rider your referring to is one of my riders, David Bohnstadt. I can assure you or anyone else that the accident you are speaking of was just that, an accident. ATP does not employ dirty riders to represent our company and the last person on the planet that would ride that way is David. As the old saying goes, rubbing is racing, and that will happen from time to time.

 This was the first time we have been up to the track, and we had a great time. We plan on being back some time in the future. Maybe we will get a bike actually set up to run the pro class instead of the worn out mx practice bike, lol, that was some great racing.

Hope this will clear things up,
Mike
ATP Racing

Scooter all Doug asked you was if that was one of your buddies.

Derek & Scott- hey guys good to see yall. Doug has the bike all the torn down to the frame getting it ready to send off to powdercoating. We will see hopefully he can get everything for it and have it ready for the july race.

Mike,

 No offence. but YOU are the ONLY one who sees it that way.
The tower, flag man, other racers and the spectators saw it different...
Maybe you guys just dont know Flat Track etiquette its not like MX by any means.
I "heard" he was talked to about "rubbing" in the open class as well. I dunno, wasnt there just what i heard.

and I will say again, I wasnt making an issue out of this i just wanted to know if I got 1st or 2nd. You guys are making more of an issue out of it than me.. Yall are going ape sh1T over it...Its Ok im not upset by any means. I will say this, David might not want to make his style of racing a habit. From what the flager said, he will be told not to come back if he does something like that again...
I dont think ATP would want that either...

Also, if it was truly an "accident" he should have come up to me after the race, I know i would have...character says alot...

"David might not want to make his style of racing a habit. From what the flager said, he will be told not to come back if he does something like that again...
I dont think ATP would want that either... "

Does something like what?  all I saw was a great race, with 2 really good riders fighting for a position.  I think the problem lies in the fact that all the guys who do this every weekend just can't stand the fact that a motocrosser came in and handed you your butts on knobbies.   How cool was that.

To change the subject, We had an awsome time with the minis racing. We met some great new faces allong with the great ATV FLA. crew. Everyone shown great sportsmanship (I thought?) we had two new friends race in the beginers class that are now hooked on flat track racing even though one of them took a bad spill in turn 2.They commented on how great all the people were at this event. Which means alot to me because I tell them how awsome the people are on this site. Lets keep the sportsmanship that way and have fun, safe racing.
 

Nightbreed, RTR380, and all the ATP gang,

Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you. I hope you guys will come down again when I have my 250R back together. I would have liked to raced RTR380 and the other guys on your team in the Open Pro class. Sorry that Chris and your rider tangled in Intermediate class, but everything turned out O.K. and I hope everyone can remember that there aren't that many of us ATV lovers out there and let things go. Sometimes things happen when you are riding as hard as you can on a dry, slick track.

Chris I see your point, and it did look intentional from my perspective, but let it go man, it could have been much worse. I hope there is no bad blood with your group and ours ( I say that and Derek and I have only just met everyone 3 months ago). I hope you guys keep coming to race. I want to race with a good turnout. I remember the days of MX in the early 90's when there would only be 5 or 6 quads show up at Reddick. It sucked.

I guess all I am trying to say is I hope this can be over and I hope this isn't the last time your guys will come to thunderbowl especially since Derek and I haven't gotten the chance to race any of you yet.  I want to race that 400 Polanda and your baddest 450R with my 330R and see how it turns out. I'm sure it will be a blast.

  Well now lets take a good look at that comment shall we? I think I came from dead last and handed it to him on his knobbies with my flatrack tires and I did it without rubbing anyone... ;D

    I'm with all of you who want to move on and just race. As far as the "click" comments...huh???? I spend alot of my night at the track just walking around talking to riders I have never met. There wouldn't be "clicks" if everybody broke away from the huddle they stay in and walked around. I met someone in the RTR camp (black 250R) who was nice as hell and if everyone mixes it up this little flattrack deal will stay cool and not so cut throat like most other racing...it may sound corny but so what.

   Derek and Scott: Thanks for getting me out of the fuel issue with your "ghettofix" and everything else. It's been 3 or 4 months since I've seen a checkered. Feels good for a change! 

Hey worm,  was good to meet you guys. The minis were alot of fun. Yall brought out some quik lil machines. Tell your buddy not to feel bad about the spill. As you and everybody else saw i took a couple spills myself. He slid around just as i was roundin the turn, just on his outside. I didnt realize he went over until i got about half way down the back stretch, and looked back. Somebody said he got hit after he rolled.

  A 90 4 stroke is fine. The white Suzuki in the Mini class I was told is a 90 2 stroke.

Thanks HillKiller,

That is just what I was hoping to hear..!

Hibrass

Blind,
   first off, i dont race every weekend maybe once a month IF that. Second, we dont care who comes out as long as they come.  Third, no one handed anything to anyone...last that was the first time my bike has been on a track anytime, anywhere...   your post is nothing more than trying to start trouble between the groups... thats not cool... everyone has been friends with everyone and it need to stay that way! as a matter of fact if he would have taken his hot lap like he should have I was going to stop on the back strech and shake his hand. Thats what we do. Thats how we are...

 Now,  Mike Walker knows Im his friend, i dont think he doubts that. as a matter of fact Mikes son played in the motor home with my son and my brothers boy. So there is no MX/Flat Track rivals here.
 after my spill at Sand Mountain, he gained HUGE respect from me because he was the first one there as i "woke up" making sure i wasnt dead...  :Dead.gif


Scott and everyone,

  As i have said over and over and over... I dont have a problem i just wanted to know the outcome. I even told Scooter, Doug, my Dad, and Dave and all the others who came up to me at the track I wasnt worred about it.

Im NOT i repeat NOT making an issue out of anything. i wanted to know the OUTCOME. Everyone else is heating this up NOT ME! Can i make this any clearer to anyone? Everyone please read ALL the post before you post...  everyone else keeps fanning the flames and I get the finger pointed at me? Im not tring to be an Azz here, i just feel like i have repeated myself enough times..

Hey hillbrass,

  I think that was your kids giving my boy a little extra room.
Let them know i said "thank you"
Justin doesnt get to ride that much so im a little worred when hes out there. Everyone gave him room and was appreciated.
Last saturday was the fastest he has ever riden out there... hes getting better though.

 Nope its a LT80 bored once over but other than that its a stock eng. with the proper tuneing not bad for second time on the track. My daughter was on the red xtreme  w/flames on the fenders that is a 90cc stock eng. also. both of them just turned 7. I personaly thought all the kids did awsome win, lose or draw aslong as they are having fun thats all that matters.

you couldnt have said it any better!!

Justin did a great job. What matters is did he have fun.

Superstar, awsome meeting you and your son, we had fun talking with you and your dad. Glad your son came and raced he is an great boy with alot of drive.
   My bud is ok but his bike took a beating, in the accedent his bike got hit by another YFZ but he just supermaned into that nice soft clay lol. He complains about his wrist but says he is ok. I hope the other guy was ok.

He did have fun, his little 180 spin scared the crap out of him!

tell'em dave!! ;) i seen a blue banshee pass everybody down the straight!! ...... any ??'s
no problem dave, we helped a man in need!!   and you won without touching anyone despite that fool (i'm not going to say any names yet) that cut down on you in turn one. you stuck it to him and thats the way it should be!!
o.k mabey i will say a name j.t.!  come to think of it there whole crew was riding really agressiveand over there head! need to slow yall's role a little! if your bike does not handle well then dont just go out there and ride bonzi !!! thats how people get hurt and get into arguments!!!  ;) but i guess most people have to learn the hard way!! !!

JT was there!  i didnt even see him....I would have like to talked to him, its been a while since ive seen him, What was he riding?

Yeah never mind the guy who builds your motors.... :Yo

 

tell'em dave!! ;) i seen a blue banshee pass everybody down the straight!! ...... any ??'s
no problem dave, we helped a man in need!!   and you won without touching anyone despite that fool (i'm not going to say any names yet) that cut down on you in turn one. you stuck it to him and thats the way it should be!!
o.k mabey i will say a name j.t.!  come to think of it there whole crew was riding really agressiveand over there head! need to slow yall's role a little! if your bike does not handle well then dont just go out there and ride bonzi !!! thats how people get hurt and get into arguments!!!  ;) but i guess most people have to learn the hard way!! !!
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I dont know who the rider was but if you look in the picture I posted the bike is a red 450 #9. I'm not sure if he was intentionally blocking or just pressured but eventually he left a hole...it's all good no foul here. ;D

Its amazing how a little poke can get everybody so wound up, especially from people didn't even race the race in question.  WHATEVER!!! ::)  If you can't stand some s!#t talking you are in the wrong sport.

Oh and by the way Chris I was the one, along with Mike,who help you gather your senses at sand mountain when your spindle sent you airborn.  

Hey worm,  was good to meet you guys. The minis were alot of fun. Yall brought out some quik lil machines. Tell your buddy not to feel bad about the spill. As you and everybody else saw i took a couple spills myself. He slid around just as i was roundin the turn, just on his outside. I didnt realize he went over until i got about half way down the back stretch, and looked back. Somebody said he got hit after he rolled.
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  SuperStar,
 You must have nine lives out there!! :)

I dont know who the rider was but if you look in the picture I posted the bike is a red 450 #9. I'm not sure if he was intentionally blocking or just pressured but eventually he left a hole...it's all good no foul here. ;D
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naw its cool i'm just talkin smack!! if it was not jt, sorry man..... i was told thats who it was...
i agree with blind if you cant take the heat get away from the fire foo!! !! :o

Wareracing07,

My boy was just watching...  :-)  He spoke to yours prior to the first heat.  He really wants to try it himself so it looks like Dad will be changing out his Z50 for an Eton.  I was going to talk to you about your experiance with the Etons but you were pretty busy getting everyone ready so I decided to spare you the newbie questions...  LOL

Hibrass

Well not to pat myself on the back.... but i did tylers and justins "magic" on thier motors...   Ok so maybe i did pat it... ;)   next time lets all park together so all the kids can hang out.

Oh than i owe you a big fat thank you too! i cant remember to much about that day.. All i saw was sand, air,sand,air,sand, air, then black.....    :H

I  guess  Im  gonna  have  to  get  Derek  and  Scott  to  help  me  dial  in  my  zilla  after  what  I  saw  The  Head  of  my  Dave  do.  Man  was  skinnin  it !  Get  it  Rags ! ;)

First of all, let me say that I never expected to do really well!!  You need to go back and check my posts.  Once again, I was trying to be very humble.  The 400 had clutch issues!  And as far as respect for other racers and their abilities, you need to go back and check the posts i made!  I gave praise to Tim and others all night!  But, before you go and make me look like a chump and say I have a ways to go to catch the front runners, I thought I did fairly well on my first time there!  What else do I have to say to try to come off humble!  I knew I wasnt going to go blow anyone away.  Long travel suspension, not geared properly, never rode the track, etc;
Give me a couple more races, and dont chump me like I deserve it, cause I dont!  Come run with us on the tracks we usually ride and I can promise you that you yourself would not fair near as well as I did my first time at your track!!!

Now, as far as next time!  I need some of those front tires that you guys were running!  My front tires kept pushing me out of the bottom groove that I was trying to hold! :'(  By the time I would get straight, people were making time on me on the bottom while I was pushing towards the wall coming out of the corners!  Any suggestions on what size and brand would be helpful!!  Being that we NEVER RACE FLATTRACK, I could use some help! :-\

Chris- You rode your tail off coming from the rear to get up front!  Good job brother! ;)

Hopefully Im not stepping on toes!  But, this was Davids first flattrack race ever I believe!  I know where he is coming from in his style of racing!  I never run flattrack as well so I can understand that it was a huge adjustment!  He would come in extremly hot into the corner and sometimes get a little crazy going through it!  But that is just the learning curve that he had!  When I missed a gear on the back stretch and he passed me, I came into him pretty hard as well!  He was just being aggressive and was trying hard to win but not hurt anybody!  He said several times before the race that if he couldnt compete with you guys that he would love to follow you guys around and learn.  It just so happens that the guy is a bad azz rider!  I think that he and I both learned alot that race! ???  He is a stand up guy and very humble rider!  for what its worth!

I dont know who the rider was but if you look in the picture I posted the bike is a red 450 #9. I'm not sure if he was intentionally blocking or just pressured but eventually he left a hole...it's all good no foul here. ;D
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Thank you very much! No, I was not intentionally blocking, just racing! I didnt see anyone there until he got beside me!  Then it was too late, he passed me like a bag of hammers!

Derek,  I dont know your problem with me but you dont know me!  I am not a FOOL by any stretch of the imagination! I dont ride over my head! And I dont remember mixing it up with anyone where I would need to apologize!!! Not trying to take anything away from the track or the riders that go there, but, I tried hard to compete and do it ethically!  Dont question my integrity or intentions!  Im friends with ALOT  of people in here and am trying to keep it that way!  Those that know me, know that I will and do whatever it takes to help others and have a good time!  Tim Sisson was helping me out with several pointers and advice all night.  I was doing my best!  I will get better!  Sorry it wasnt good enough for you! >:D

JT,

 what were you riding? i guess Im blind.. i didnt see you...

Are you out your mind! :D  I was asking you why you were not lined up with us in the expert class when we were at staging!!!  You probably didnt recognize me on a 4-stroke! :D  Great race brother!  I learned alot watching you guys!  Ill get better and faster!  I was on the red #9 450r!  I was the "fool that rides over his head"! ;)  Anyway, good seeing you!

dont try to turn this on me fella!! !! i remember you saying when i posted that video of the 13th that quote " i will be faster than those guys you raced on the 13th" and if i'm not mistaken you got wooped! you are trying to play both sides of the fence! talk crap but then try to say you wernt!! it doesnt work that way you can be one or the other, not both!! :o you are taking me the wrong way! take your frineds advise dont get upset on the crap talkin!! i was not calling you a fool it was a foo which was supposed to be funny! sorry if you cant take it i wont say anything else becasue it sounds like i hit a nerve!!
i am just picking about your 400 man dont take it personally!!!!!! if you think i can not fair racing with you, well you just need to ask around bubba!! !! !! besides i tuned the banshee that passed everyone!!
went from last to first but i will say you gave him the most trouble!!  it looked like ya'll were riding twice as hard as anyone else and you didnt look like you had full control! how could you when you just pitch it sideays and slide through the corner!! ??  when you do that you slide to the top coming out!!
being a safe rider is holding your line not going bonzi !! !! !!

 hey you said it yourself!! !! next time i will make a video that way there will be no question!!

i gotta quit smokin that crack!  what were you doing on a 4 stroke? Went over to the other side huh?  :no TISK...TISK

Not once did I say that "Ill be faster than those guys"  Go back read all the posts!  They were as light humored, mildly trash talked, and as humble as could be!  Sorry that not everyone can ride as well as you obviously can.  Not being 2 faced or playing both sides of the fence.  All this attack coming from someone who made no attempt to even come talk to us or get to know us at all!  But do me a favor, next time we are out there- Dont!  Have no need for it or desire to! Get whatever video you want,  all you will see is a rider that raced there for the first time trying to race his best race and learning his way around the track, while getting beat by better riders who made it a point to come talk to us and thank us for coming!  Dont need your pointers or care to hear them!  

As for the rest of you guys! thanx for showing me the way around the track!
Hillkiller- Awesome, awesome race brother!  Sorry if I was blocking you, but I was trying to find my line and didnt know you were there until you pulled by me.
Probably wont show up again if I need to deal with this much grief just to race!  Not fun when your being hammered by strangers! :(

Just trying something different!  And besides, the 4 stroke is better for TT racing and MX anyway!  Need to build me one of our banshees for flattracking!  If we do it anymore, that is! :-\

you get hammered by strangers......? EEWWW! I didnt mean you went to THAT side!  ;D :R :R

I hear what your saying JT. But im glad your here, its usually me who gets the $h!t sandwich!  :banghead.gif  so thanks!  :ThumbsUp.gif

Im sure Derek is just tring to rattle your cage... i told them boys you could ride!
But you know, not better than me or anything... but close enough... :foot.gif

Quad talked me into that "gettin hammered" and the "other side" thing!  He even got me a ring! ::)

As far as riding that circle track like you can- I wish! Maybe one day!  I still think we should get together and practice Sand Mountain!  Im trying to make it happen! c-ya ;D

JT , please  tell  me  you  didnt  just  go  there. :S   I  think  Im  gonna  puk...................

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o.k. i will end this now!! sorry for being an ass and dont be a hater!!  dont be like that!!! i would have come said hey but i was busy with other things! you are totaly taking this the wrong way. but like i said i was just calling it as i saw it!! !! if you want to act like a thingy then you are more than welcome!! ??? now dont sell out just because we have problems i would lovew for you to come race. like i said i'm not being an ass but what you just said is plain crappy and if you want to be that way fine!! i wont say another word to you!!

who said anything about giving you pointers?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??  i wouldnt give you pointers anyway. i went back and looked, you deleted that post!!
you are trying to play people for fools. but they have got your number!!

Where do you get all these pictures man!  That is sick! And my head still hurts where you had Marshall smack the shiznit out of me!

RTR380 &Derek,

Hey man, I see that the kidding has hit some nerves. I am sorry that we were tied up helping our friends with some problems with their bikes. I really wanted to come and say what's up and next time I will definetely do so. Scooter and I had some good conversations and he'll tell you we are nice people too. I hope that you will keep coming, heck I haven't gotten to race you yet.

RTR380,

As far as giving tips out, I will help you unless you beat me then you are on your own...hehe.   ;)

all i have to say is.... :Z

Oh  shut  up  already.  Shhhzzzz. :M

you know that pic of the old lady flippin the bird...
if i had it,  id post it for you!

NEVER HAVE A DELETED A POST FROM THIS THREAD!  Once again, please quit trying to punk me and question my integrity! 
Most everyone on here does have my number!  Because most of them know me personally! The only person trying to "get my number" is you!  As far as trying to play people for fools, not in my nature!  Now, one more time, please stop trying to punk me in front of my friends and peers!  Its just not cool! 8)

If  I  had  a  pic  of  you  and  your  brother  Id  post  that.  Oh  yea !  I  do  and  here  it  is !  Dave  is  on  the  left. 2:L

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For real!  Got an extra pillow?? :sleepy.gif

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Sorry JT, im not like that!    :no   i say again.... EWWWW!

I think quad has one he bites!

ok, ok, enough all ready,   racin is racin,  i'll trade a little bump and grind for the brand new 250r motor that siezed up sat night because the air filter came off.  (thanks Doug  ;)
(doug was on the first place riders bar and pushin him  hard in the heat race untill that happen, Good Ridin, especiality for the first time on my bike with the changes that were made.
to all the Little Racers,  everyone of you guys are great,  and everyone there loved watching you guys race.  we all hope to see more of you.

sidebar;  all of us should take a lesson from them, go race your heart out and then go play swords or hide and seak and then go back to racin.  what a life.

really... remember your last bump and grind....?
Lets see, cracked hip, torn rotator cup... surgery.... am i missing anything here... ;)
we forget how that track is like concrete..

o.k me and rtr have made up! no more fighting between us! ;D

Thats never hapened to a 250r before... :-X   Do you have the support rings in the airbox? If not get them . They are well worth it.. 

Just think maybe we can get enought 250r's out their one day to out number the 4 strokes. ;D

we are working on it matt!!! did you know that doug got an lt250. thats close enough right??

no air box, filter mounts to the carb via a rubber boot, seems the filter pulled of the boot some..

Ahh Piss on This I Love You Guys  :-*
It was a Great Night Of Racing! Everyone is in one Piece and Still Talkin Trash Thats All That MATTERS!
Jt You Guys Did Great For Your First time out aswell Did DAVID!
One Day when i get fast ill move up to Open!

scooter you can already ride like hell you just need a faster bike...  ;)
or at least one that handlesgood!!  ::)

  SuperStar,
 You must have nine lives out there!! :)
[/quote] I guess so. I let my determination get the best of me. Was way too aggressive there at the end. For the most part after my first spill it seemed i was constantly tryin to get around somebody with stok tires. Man that makes me super nervous in the corners. Several times all i could do was watch the azz end of a couple of em just jump all over the place in turn 4. I would have a good run into the turn and stik it out there, only to have to lay back. I just knew when that rear left tire came off the track on a couple bikes in front of me it was just a matter of time before that machine caught traction and would go over. Its one thing to take myself out but to get tangled up in somebody elses mess, just aint worth it. Right aftre the first heat, i guess somebody complained and said (get this) i was "intentionally throwin dirt into the crowd along the front stretch". I think it may have been right after lappin those two bikes comin out of 4. I was hammerin on it full bore, when i came out i got a lil squirrely and fish tailed it pretty good. I think my representative spoke well enough for me when she was approached,so i figured if i didnt hear anything straight from the horses mouth than it was a dead issue and it would probably be best to just " let it ride". I dont understand not bein able to run your headlights, whats that all about. For those who know a lil sumpin sumpin about the yfz, that henders the performance of that bike. Oh well ill just rig it next time. All in all we had a great time and enjoyed everyone.

well personaly i think the flag man is just tring to make his presence known..
right now he comes off as being a little nit pickey, that will more than likey smooth out with time..

Oh yeah, can we not ditch those cones, or atleast move em over to the berm. I hit the big one in 4 and it got me loose enough to ultimately end up on my back the first time. I realize it sounds like an excuse, but why put em on the track itself. The whole idea of the cone is to let us know where we shouldnt be. There were several times those 2 or 3 feet would have come in REAL handy. Another thing too i forgot to mention, that will be brought up next drivers meeting. If i am wrong please correct me. When your runnin a class (beginners especially) with lets just use oh say.......14 bikes or so. The heats should be used as qualifying rounds, should they not. Heat 1,2 and 3, 5 laps, 5 bikes, top 3 advance. Now youve narroweed your field down, also you just ran 15 laps in 3 heats instead of 16 in 2. You can run the main w/ 9 bikes, 12 laps. This is just an example based on the turn out we had this time. Not only is it safer , it also allows the riders to stay a lil more crisp come time for the main, which in itself is safer also. The smaller fields i guess can run just like they are, but when youve got that many riders, looks like to me itd be best to atleast split em up. If time is a factor then run fewer heat laps OR water the track during intermission with the truck and not a garden hose. LOL. Just my .2 cents

I can nit pik too.  ;D

I guess so. I let my determination get the best of me. Was way too aggressive there at the end. For the most part after my first spill it seemed i was constantly tryin to get around somebody with stok tires. Man that makes me super nervous in the corners. Several times all i could do was watch the azz end of a couple of em just jump all over the place in turn 4. I would have a good run into the turn and stik it out there, only to have to lay back. I just knew when that rear left tire came off the track on a couple bikes in front of me it was just a matter of time before that machine caught traction and would go over. Its one thing to take myself out but to get tangled up in somebody elses mess, just aint worth it. Right aftre the first heat, i guess somebody complained and said (get this) i was "intentionally throwin dirt into the crowd along the front stretch". I think it may have been right after lappin those two bikes comin out of 4. I was hammerin on it full bore, when i came out i got a lil squirrely and fish tailed it pretty good. I think my representative spoke well enough for me when she was approached,so i figured if i didnt hear anything straight from the horses mouth than it was a dead issue and it would probably be best to just " let it ride". I dont understand not bein able to run your headlights, whats that all about. For those who know a lil sumpin sumpin about the yfz, that henders the performance of that bike. Oh well ill just rig it next time. All in all we had a great time and enjoyed everyone.
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   Left rear tire off the ground??? Can you say "swaybar"?? Superstar, you might be safer running the intermediate class since they at least have tires like you and there isn't as many as in the beginner class. sooner or later knobbies will make for good video!
  I heard about the dirt into the crowd thing but I think that was as much the tracks fault for letting the surface get so dry.
 

  I didn't see how you ended up getting upsidedown but that is exactly what happened to me a few months back...clipped the cone, spun to the left, hit the berm, flipped over.
 You other point is well taken and it has been discussed repeatedly. The beginner class is too big to be safe. Here is the most popular fix. In order to keep the racing safe and fair if more than 10 are entered (two rows of five) then the class will be split. For example, if there are 14 again like last race then the beginners will have a 1st and 2nd round heat with 7 each. The average of your finish from the heats will qualify you for either the beginner A Main or B Main. The only negative is if you are big on getting a trophy, the track says there must be 9 entered for 1st thru 3rd to get a trophy otherwise only 1st and 2nd will get one. The positive is when compared to SandMountain you get to race more. This is meant to work out so the faster beginner riders race together in their own Main and the slower in theirs. I think I may have just said the same thing you did! :)

Wutcha tryin to say willis?

just messin with ya man..... i know that ltr is on its way up. actually giving you props... you can ride well!if you had a bike that was dialed in you could race with us for sure!!

you girls just need to shut up cause the king of trash talking is back in action.  Doug you need to figure it out man lol suzuki or honda 2-stroke or 4-stroke. better get ready daddy will be back before long. scooter did you get the re-call letter just wanted to let you know about it if you didnt

yeah i got it,I'm gonna fix mine this week

looks like thats all u do is talk squak squak squak now lets see u ride!!! sounds like this guy doug is tryin to figure out his orientation heehee, 2stroke or 4 stroke? guess he goes both ways :o I read Tim farr is comin. Now there is the man bringin it on a 4stroke. You 2 strokers are in for it now. Aint no 250r or bancheese gonna hang with that dude. Wheres all the pro riders at anyway??? I should bring my ride next time and show you dweebs how a pro hauls the mail ;) ;)

DirtTrackMasterbaiter.  Now  theres  a  tool  that  that  can  run  his  mouth. :o ;)

  What you ridin Cupcake?

Your  old  lady.  Why  fat  boy ? O0

cuz I dont think Ive seen any 32x on the track. You one of them poser types? You no what I mean, dont never race except in there head ;) :P

dirt,
  who are you? what class do you race in?

I can tell you that Tim Farr is not coming to the next race.  Raced him at Sand Mountain!  Hes an unbelievable TT rider!  Raced Natalie at Sand Mountain too! It would be cool if Tim was there but hes not going to be. :-\

  first names Joe originally from louisianna then ohio. raced pro dirt track series but now live in fla but havent seen any pros here like in ohio

Joe Dirt! Now that's funny!  ;D

hey dirt why dont you come flattrack wit us?? ........ we will show you fast.... !! :o

in case anyone didnt notice the forums were freakin boomin yesterday!! 8)
see when people have some crap talkin going on everyone is checking it out!! ........ ;)
see rtr we wernt talkin crap to each other for nothing!! :)

   Sorry about this misinformation regarding Tim Farr. I passed on what I was told at the track Saturday. I did get a call last night and was told Tim was at Ocala last Weds and ran a bunch of laps but he was already back in Pa for a race... :'(

CRAP !  Well ................... there  ya  go. ;)

The same thing was told to me that Tim Farr was going to be there the 24th by the guy calling him self the track manager?

well if everyone is wanting to race tim far why dont we get together and go to a national and race him! thats where it counts anyway!! !! !! ;)

Cause we can't on our Banned 250R's. >:( We can only race Open Pro-AM and I think a couple other classes. :'(

The 450's could though...... :-\

Come on down the more the better, I would be happy to show you how slow you are. :o ;)

Hee Hee Hee.   Skit-em  Scott ! 2:L

I see we changed our name have we.....

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so it looks like superstarr are the same?

From louisiana but cant spell it huh? interesting  ;)

hey chris I here you are fast, I cant wait to kick your a$$ lol hahaha

Good luck Ware was passing guys on the back streach like they were standing still.

Psst.... that will be the day... I made some suspention changes... should be even better next time..

i just took a dump im 5 lbs lighter that should be more than enough to smack ol chris around  ;)

well you didnt do a very good job of that saturday night!  ;D   :P

I know scooter you didnt want to hurt his feeling on the 1st night out I see lol. Chris we will put it on you next race

OK, well i was planning on running the open class, but i guess i can run the boom-boom class with you two..   ;)

dont worry brother I am running both classes to looks like I am going to give it to you twice lol. I might let you win beat me one time since you are my friend

You cant even beat that case of crabs you have, what makes you think you can beat me?

By the way, glad to see your home safe. i guess the rain helped...

Thats your secret.

Crabs?? Gary, you know there is a cure? Why you still livin like that? You're not still hanging out at Cafe Risque are you? ;D

he thinks you can drown them.... gary got his medical advice from "The last american virgin".

Chris, Gary, and Scooter,

Can't wait to see that next race. Should be a really good one. I'm betting it comes down to who doesn't make a mistake. Gary good to see your back talkin' smack! Derek will have his engine together this weekend. Mine is next and I can't wait to get it back on the track.

Try raid?  lol

he got the crabs from a toilet seat!! at least thats what he told his girlfriend.

  I think he was still in the womb when that movie was in the theaters... :'(

Hey Quad32x,
 Don't you have an opinion on this???

doubt it, i think he got them from gary!

I  pinch.

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He said he took a dump  ;)

it will be a great race myself and scooter are going to put them zukis back on top where they belong. hey scott we will even put them on top of that sorry honda if you ever get it together

Why  would  you  put  yourself  on  top  of  scooter ?  I  guess  thats  better  than  putting  yourself  inside  of  scooter. :o ;D

maybe that where he got the crabs....

how are you going to get on top gary?? there are no ramps on the track!!
the honda is still together we are just afraid that it might not stay together!! :o
so gary you must have done something to the zuk to be talkin like that!! ??

Hey Doug's got my back and he knows those 4-strokes so don't start counting your chickens or you may end up with dust instead...LOL.  I should have it ready for you by the 24th.

dont trip scott you know know gary is a bottom!! !!  lol
he likes tops.....  who ever was on top is who gave him crabs!! !!  lol  lol :o

How is this for a new nickname........"Fairy" Gary.....That even rhymes.

damn!! !! !! fairy gary got busted out....... :o

call me what you want but I will be 1st to the checkered flag

I think you meant the rainbow flag...  ;D

Flags a flag as long as youre the first one to it.  ;)

Whats up everyone, i would like to come out for the quad races, where do you guys meet up and when? Ive got a banshee  and id like to try it out, are there certain requirements for racing? Lemme know - im down -

hahahahaha  good call chris!!  ;)

Called dade city (flat track) today. Gotta get in some lap time tomorrow. Said theyve been havin a good turn out lately for practice. Ill be there. Come on out and give me somethin to run behind.  ;)

  Next race is 6/24, practice at 5pm, racing at 7pm, drivers meeting just before 7. There are 3 classes to choose from: Beginner, Intermediate, Open/Pro. If you have never raced flattrack before or if you don't have a setup then Beginner or Intermediate would be best. The first step is rear tires, Hoosiers, American Racers, etc. Cya then!

I know theyre preachin sliks for "everybody on everything". But what about mini fronts. Ive been lookin around, and theyre just isnt anything out there that ive been able to find as far as minis go. I am in the process of switchin out the turf tamers i just bought. Ive been able to find several places that deal a golf cart tire that looks excellent, but no fronts. If the man says everybody needs em, then thems the rules, but they must understand the availability issue. Also if anybody knows where to find a set that dont weigh 12 lbs and arent 23 inches tall, please let me know. Thanks  John

     Hey John,
  I spoke with Ray (flagman) yesterday for a few minutes. I am gonna go out on a limb here and say you should be ok without slicks on the fronts with the Minis, we all know they don't ruin the track and you are right, the fronts are hard to find. I just ordered a set for my Mini for the rear and they set me back $300 so I hope the rest of the Minis don't bail just because of a tire rule.... :(

Try tractor supply for the fronts!  Lawn mower tires work great on minis!

Brother ECP is not bailing its way to much fun for the kids to bail!Plus you all are fun to hang out with.

ECP is the bomb! Keep bringing em even if its only once a month. I was in the infield for the Minis and I think they put on the best show and are the cleanest racers even though they make me nervous watching! RTR, thanks for the tip on Tractor Supply, will have to check that out.

Thanks man that means alot to us. We just want to have fun and we do have fun with you all. Our kids look forward to seeing the other kids.

We went to test n' tune at Thunderbowl last night. The track was in POOR shape, due to all the rain we've had here the past few days. The flagman, Ray, drug it a little bit so that we could at least practice. He did tell us that for sure, without a doubt, Tim Farr would be here on the 24th. We told him that we had heard all sorts of things to that effect, and he again INSISTED that he was coming.   
Just thought ya'll might like to know that.

 He told me the same...I guess we'll know for sure the 24th. ???

scott called mark baldwin and he said far was not going to be there.... he has a race coming up!!
so where is gary?? we havent seen him since he came out of the closet!! ;)  lol

i know everyone is busy in between heats with your on repairs and set ups, but everyone needs to take time to watch the mini's.  they are just as intense and serious as everyone else out there.  and yes i agree, it is some of the best racin' goin, especially when they start out as 5 and 6 year olds.  we are allways looking for  more mini's to show up. 

I never knew I was in the closet so I didnt know I had come out oh well in the closet out of the closet I am still going to whipp some a$$ on the 24th.

 hahahahahahaha   i hear ya man..... i mean fairy gary.....   
 you might whoop a$$ because i wont be there.....  or you mean whoop a$$ on the boom boom class???  chris you got someone callin you out dawg!!  :o

I just got off the phone with Gary... If Farr is there I have to run the Open class.  ;)
If not, I guess I can beat gary again for the 100th time!


As far as the Minis go, I WONT be buying tires.. Justin dont race there enough for it to be cost effective. if need be Ill pull my rears off and put them on his. But the fronts are going to have to be nobbies..  Dave, Why didnt you talk to Tim about this?
Is the flag man the head man now?

Yes the flagman Ray is calling the shots, Tim has moved into a track manager role and less of a track worker role. When I called yesterday to talk with Tim he put Ray on the phone.I have been planning on getting Tyler rear tires anyway because he is squirly in the corners with his knobbies but I don't see the point of getting front slicks.
  Someone start a poll on here about whether we should start by a green light or flag in hand. Several people have pm'd me about this. Comments???

Green Light!!

grean light!!  and we need to start at the begining of the front straight like we used to........not in the middle of the track! :(

 whats wrong derek did you get beat by a 4-stroke to the 1st corner oh yeah are you the one that said that would never happen it will one day and it is going to be me that dose it lol.

 Dave what did you do to or sould I say for Derek to get him to help you tune your bike, I called him today and he would not give me any pointers. I think there is more to this  then we all know about lol just playing with you guys.


wheres them todd boys I think I am ready to come get some. I might have to make it down to sand mountain to show you around the track.

one last thing to Chris all the times you have beat me I was on a 400, things have changed I dont believe you have whipped me maybe once so come on out and show me what you workin with cracker

Green Light and start where we used to. I hate the new short starts someone is gonna get hurt.

uuuhhhh  no i have not been beat by a 4 poke off the line...... duh
and i gave you pointers. i said to get a swaybar and pump your tires up!!  duh
what else you want from me??  :'(      LOL

Was told the same about Tim! Ive ridden with and raced Tim!  He is very fast and smooth on a TT track.  It would be interesting!

Maybe we will get our chance against Tim Farr soon. I wish he and Shane would come down it would be great.

I love ya brother!  But the day that anyone on this thread beats me at Sand Mountain is the day I retire! :D  J/K 

If we started with a green light would we be doing it from a dead start or rolling start!?

We would start as we did the other night but instead of the flagger on the ground starting the race, he gets a nod from the riders then sends it up to the tower to flip the green light, then were off!

if we start far back we will have time for everyone to spread out so there isnt 5 people going into the corner at the same time....... that not cool!!

see there ya go talkin smack again!!  lol :o

Then Id rather start by green light!!
Also, if we started farther back, then the 2-strokes would always get the holeshot!!
I need all the help on a 4 stroke that i can get! ;D

I dunno know about that....Tim Sisson is a holeshot master on that YFZ450 :P
Gary Sisson gets an awesome holeshot too!!!


   ...but of course he likes to leave before the light comes on!!!  ;D

Green light start!


Everyone pay close attention to the Chris and Gary show next Sat....  once again ill send him home empty handed....

No,no, dont get me wrong. Were not bailin. Like i said if thems the rules then thems the rules. Im just sayin that if when we show up next week and for some reason we dont have sliks on the front of the mini, its not because were just blowin em off, theyre just hard to come by.

  I agree with ya 100%. Starts from the half way point suck. Im just gettin hookd up by the time i have to let off for the corner, and you cant lower airpressure just to try and get the whole shot. As far as the light, i can go either way. I like the flagger more i think. I know last week during a beginner run, we ran the whole race on yelow, lol. So personally when i comaslidin round 4 im lookin at the man with the flag.

Yall missed a goodun last night (dade city). We had a small turn out but we had alot of fun. I think we had 6 quads, but there was plenty of action. Afew dirt bikes and a couple lil guys. I love that track. I wish theyd still run down there. You can tell they or he puts in some time workin it. Had a great time.

I have not left in along time before green if I remember right you have done it since I have I have been good. and Chris your right everyone needs to watch us because your going to get your feelings hurt hahaha lol lol I cant wait only a week away ladies///

 Just in case you guys dont know I have not raced in over a month so I could get last and would be just happy because I am racing.

garys already getting his losing speach ready...  ::)

Superstar,
   No offence here but i dont think we will being going back to Dade City...
Lets see, Doug got kicked out, Colin likes to call me a fat pig hiding behind a screen name for a week.
I doubt Dave would go because of the whole Colin screaming "I F'in hate you guys!" to me and when I asked him what he was talking about he said he hates quads... then he walks over and tells my wife, then he tells Megan, Dougs wife the same thing... and everyone else live to far from the track to go and practice...But if you want to go.... knock yourself out!  ;)   trust me hes taking care of the track for the two wheelers not for the quads...
Ask him, he will tell you as well.

dont worry RTR i will beat you off the line either way!! it will just be worse if we start from far back!!  ;)  lol   I like to start from far back because everyone will spread out a little before they go into the corner.......  that way you dont have 5 wrecks in the first corner.....

  Thank you, These kids live for riding racing is just a bonus. We are tring to grow this sport to keep the future Doug Gusts of the world interested. We have a great group of kids and dads that show up and have fun.

I agree with starting a little futher back! It gives you time to seperate a little.  Hey, I was getting great holeshots the last race!  I just sucked at the rest of it! :D   Hopefully, Ill be a little better set up for the next race!  Wont make next week though.  I should be in the Keys with my kids! ;D

I agree on the green light starts further back.

No offense taken, he definately seems a bit sour, and im sure his intentions lean towards the 2 wheelers. Its closer for me, and my thursdays off fall in between race weeks so i can get in a lil seat time. I do like the way he works the track, and im sure its only a matter of time before the wrong words are spoken, but until then ill run er as long as everybody gets along, or can bare it. I dont blame ya one bit for not going, i wouldnt either.

If you Guys Want or Need i can get plenty of 18" golfcart tires for the mini's on rims its a 4 on 4 bolt pattern
LMK

Chris dont worry about gary,You Still have me to Deal with!

thats right you dont need to worry about me until you can get around scooter, untill then I will ride up front by myself lol

"06 slow ol SUZKIDOOKIE. that ware 07 cant beat"

You may have to change that after the 24th, Chris is getting all setup just to put  a whoopin on you. Better start preparing you concession speech now!! :bow.gif :box.gif

alot of people prepare for alot of things in life, so I am not going to do any thing untill he beats me.

YEAH! WHAT HE SAID!!!  :box.gif :box.gif :box.gif :box.gif :box.gif

Blah Blah Blah is all i read! Them Zookies Run "The Boom Boom" Class,Keep Spending that $ Chris ill Still be riding My All Stock Zuki,It's bad when you gotta have all that Stuff and motor just to beat up on a coupleof guys with Stock Quads,Oh Nm gary's got a Lower kit hahahaha

Ok.  What  the  hell  is  the  boom boom  class ?  What  am  I  missing ? :dunno.gif

Well let me do the math for Ya..

bike 1600.00
motor 2000.00
stuff i have sold on ebay (old 250r parts) 425.00

total of 3175.00 into a 20yo bike with a 240lb rider that will whoop any 8000.00 FUEL injected computerized Suz 450 that Gary or Scooter rides!...

PRICELESS!

Remember in school, the boom boom classes is where all the retards went....

you better keep thinking about school Chris because that is where Scooter and I are going to take you

Did  you  see  that ? :o

Did Gary just imply that he and scooter were going to try and "double team" me..
The "take you" comment scares me!

Freakin HOMOS!  :o

Chris  I  hope  the  last  thing  you  remember  seeing  aint  something  like  this ! :o

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here chris do this math
New LT-R450 -7299 "Tax Write Off"
0 Down
Having the Newest Tech. that any company has to offer -100 bucks a month
Rebuild cost -0 dollars
Oil change after every race- 16 bucks
ill Slap you around on it for a year and sale it for what i owe on it and buy a new one  ;)

Making Chris Ware Build a 2000 dollar motor to put in a dinosaur to try and keep up........PRICELESS!

Man! i cant wait until saturday!

Hey scooter... where did you finish last race.. where did I? 
sorry, I just cant remember... ;)

Hey, dont be mad at me for spending 4000.00 to much... isnt my fault!

money is money but kicken Chris's a$$ is priceless lol. I sure hope Jina will let Chris come and race with us on the 24th it is about time for him to take her to the movies or something lol cant wait to see everyone its been a while.

    I think after Chris disposes of the thumpers in the "Junior" class he's gonna leave yall behind and run with us in the Open class to make it a 1-2 two stroke team Ware finish :Fp :Sp   :)   As Scott puts it so well, you dont really know what "Humble Pie" tastes like (and I have tasted plenty) until you run the Open class :S

aaahhhh hell sounds like dave has a plan ya'll better watch out!! ;D  i will say this when chris gets that 370 working right i dont know if the zukes could hang. in fact i know so...... no disrespect intended...  :o
that 370 should be faster than my bike so i dont see why he couldnt do good if it was tuned right......

hey, yeah i do remember that. They were in the lil storage room out in the hall by the pepsi machines. Used to leave the door open all the time and wed sit and watch em play nintendo. Used to run real fast and wear purple shirts and pik their navels. The big one, they called him crusher, hed point his finger at you and scream "PEANUTBUTTER".

He  must  have  known  gery350  and  Klutchbuster400  if  he  was  yelling  that ! 2:L 2:L

Whos Jina?   do you mean Gina?  :tsktsk.gif

Remember  Chris , hes  special. :oo

I know, i have high expectations from a graduate of Lake county...

 I thought his address was Polk City!!!  :o   lol

(scratches head) that would be actually be worse for him then, :o
Isnt Polk City in Polk County?

   Yep it is,  and Doug told me himself that Lake County rednecks aren't near as ignorant as Polk County rednecks. I'm not sure however how Marion County rednecks stack up against these other two but Quad32x may have a comment on this.... ;D

Now  you  know  The  Head  of  my  Dave  that  Marion  County  rednecks  are  some  of  the  smartest  rednecks  in  the  state.  Just  to  show  ya  look  at  some  of  our  plumbing  handy  work !

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Our  truck  parkin  skills. ;)

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Drankin  skills.  Thats  me  by  the  way. ;D

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Hell , we  can  even  build  our  own  swimming  pools !

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We  are  also  very  skilled  with  the  ladies.  Never  a  shortage  of  dates  for  us  Marion  County  boys  I  tell  ya !

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And  we  make  good  parents.

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We  know  good  cookin............

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and  how  to  keep  trim.  Now  I  hope  that  puts  that  to  rest  gentelmen.  Good  day.

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Quad32X,

That's a good one man! That girl in the truck sure looked like she would make for a good date!

She  did. :o ;)

  I bet that guy wouldn't have any traction problems!  ;D

that guy wouldnt be albe to sit on the bike dave!! his gut would be riding on the handle barz and he couldnt turn!! we would have to patent a belly holder.......   lol

  someone sent me a PM ( I can't say who)  and said that guy is really Quad 32x but you'll have to draw your own conclusions... ::)

i doubt it dave if that is him he lost a bunch of weight!! right around the gut area!! lol
so do we need to make tim a patented belly holder?? :o

LOL !  No  Im  not  THAT  big !  Im  6'3"  and  go  230.  But  as  far  as  a  belly  holder  maybe  I  could  just  set  a  6 pack  in  my  lap  while  I  race  and  toss  my  gut  on  top  of  it. ;) :R

sounds good tim... if you need a holder just let us know we will hook you up!! lol ;D
as far as the beer goes what happens if you let one fall on the ground!! thats a party foul man!!  :o

Man ! where do you find all those pics. There great.

If  I  was  to  drop  a  beer  then  I  gots  to  turn  around !  NEVER  leave  a  man  behind ! ;)

Everyone making those last few changes before this Saturday's race?? Derek did those jets ever show? Did I tell you how much I think the PO sucks?

oh no is lil Dave not going to be ready for this weekend LOSER lol

oh yes he will !! !! !! !! i am sending out the parts next day air!! !! 8) he is going to smoke you (fairy) gary!! !! just wait and see.......... ;)

    The only thing lil is your reflection in my rearview mirror!!

Gary,

Are you racing in the open class Saturday? Or is Dave dropping to the intermediate class? Dave's clutch was slipping and it isn't anymore so you guys should see the power that he has now. Banshee's are no slouches and I think after Saturday no one will doubt that anymore. Dave was running very well last time we were there and I think he will do the same if he can solve the jetting issues. Either way good luck to everybody as I don't think Derek and I will make it down on Saturday.

P.S. What's up Doug how is that quadracer coming?

I am going to whip Chris in the inter. class then I am going to lead Dave around the track in the open class, man I cant wait. it is going to be a ware losing weekend

Gary,

I am not betting against you in intermediate but Dave may be a handful. I have ridden that bike and it flies!. Good luck to all and be safe.

Bad news for Gary, my case of oil arrived today, jet should be here tomorrow then I'll be comin for ya!!! :) ;D ;D

I am just letting everyone know  no mersy on no one I am taking all my anger out on everyone, so just be prepared ladies and Dave what ever you are lol

uh oh gary is talk'n mad niggerish.... :o      no offense!! lol 8)

hey gary i got one for ya......   HOLD MY DRINK BEATCH!! !!  :P

I will hold your drink, but your gonna hold my trophy while I kiss your girlfriend B!TCH. now talk all that sh!t you want boy lol

Man, we might have to make it down now. This should be something to watch. Its too bad we always get home at 4:30 in the morning. I really want to get the 450 back together Sunday so I can ride SOMETHING.

  Scott,

You should move to Madison or something so that would take about 100 miles off your roundtrip to Ocala...right??? ;D

   Dern Derek, you might just have unleashed the winning fury in that boy...oh,  Chris just slapped me back to reality. That's right, there'll be a 250r out front! :P :'(

I guess I know where I stand with Scott and Derek... :o
You two flip flop more than a Politician!

   Thats right dave there will be!

New  screen  name  Mr. Ware ? :G

YEP!!! new bike name too!
I figured my last one was to easy to figure out who I am...

WHAT DO YOU MEAN CHRIS??

Ohhh nevermind.......     :-\

comments like that is why i walk on eggshells....!! !!  :-\  sorry man i dont know what you want me to do.......

Nice... i see how it is... thats cool.

the site wont let me pm you.. it says that hoosier daddy does not exiest...even when i try to reply...
soory man i dont know what to tell you!!   :P

Huum, but you have my phone #... Im not going to keep this going with you Derek, you do your thing ill do mine.

Yeah I can't PM ya back either But I got your PM
So I sent ya an Email

yeah forgot about emailing.. good point, i guess the name change takes a while to swap everything over.

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Huum, but you have my phone #... Im not going to keep this going with you Derek, you do your thing ill do mine.
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thats fine chris!! !! you are tooo hard to deal with. i just dont understand you.....
but WHATEVER.............besides you dont make me feel welcome to call you.... so i didnt!! !!
i WILL do my thing dont you worry about that.... just dont hate me because i am helping your frineds out, becasue thats what it sounds like to me!!  ??? if you want to dislike me over some small $hit then thats fine!! !! WHATEVER............... 8)

Im not even going to reply to that... it not even worth it. but I think what JT said hit the nail on the head.

oh, ok so you and jt are talking $hit about me behind my back at least i will say what i think.....
so what did jt say?? you can tell me i wont fly off the hook like some people i know!! !!

No, not at all. what he said on the forum before.
Nice how everyone flys off the handle BUT you.  :-\
But nevermind that, im squashing this here and now.

Who all is going to be at Ocala this weekend.   Should be everyone with big names going to be there.   I should be there if all goes well.  I'd like to meet the RT crew.  Hear they are good people.  New to the state only been here a few months.  I'll see if I can't make it around to intro myself.

ok. i say if we cant get along, which it looks like we cant then we just dont need to say anything to each other.. i am willing to drop all of this... even tho i disagree with you....

  Should be  a regular size turnout, last race was 36 entries and about 90 spectators. The Tim Farr rumor may be just that...a rumor, but we will all know Saturday.   Don't know if the RTR crew is coming, anyone know for sure? How bout it JT? Everyone who rides is cool except that 450 Suzuki ridin cat called Gary, stay clear of that one....LOLOL  ;D

rumor has it theres gonna be 3 Zuki 4fiddies in the inter. class!!

Get It Rags!

dang nows theres 3! dang!  :banghead.gif :gh :gr :K

whos the third?

GasGasMan!  See You guys shortly

no sound from the HILLKILLER where did he go I hope he is ok. I think he might have a broken heart lol

Im sure hes still sleeping, it was 230 when we got back..

I think I might have to call and check on him.  My buddy thought he was having a night mare when he couldnt get around that zuki but it was not a dream at all lol

Doug,

Congratulations on your win man. :Fp I hear you rode awesome and I am happy that you roped one in.  :ThumbsUp.gif Gary said you guys had some drama  :box.gif as well but nice to know you came out on top. I hope to be back soon, Derek is almost done with his.

yeah JT he knows what i meant now..

Chris how do you get your self into so much cr&p.

Ok so who are you?

good question?? chris how do you do that??  :dunno.gif

Im christian Lisbeths brother.I decided to make a name.

I thought that was you, please dont get the fire started again christian...

remember chris no more fires!!  ;)

yeah! huh? what? what you talkin bout willis?

just talkin man..... ;D

Knobs. ;)

..posers... :Wacko.gif

Sleds. :Yo

crazy fools!! !! !! 8)

Anal  probers. :o

If were the anal probers your the anal probe  ;)

Yea  and  heres  you  at  your  new  job. :M

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At least i have a job...  :M

Ouch  brother  that  hurt. :'(

I WIN I WIN!!!!  you have a job right? 'cause if you really dont.. i was just kidding... :-[

remember chris that guy in the pic is tim's personal anal prober.... lol :M