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Title: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: big-daddy on May 22, 2006, 08:11:35 PM
LATTA, S.C. (AP) — A 15-year-old girl led a small protest march Monday over her high school's ban on Confederate flag clothing, which she is also challenging in court.

Candice Hardwick walked with about a dozen people, about half of them family members and some wearing Confederate T-shirts, a few blocks to Latta High School. Hardwick wore a Confederate belt buckle and button and had the Confederate flag on her cell phone cover. She removed those items before entering the school, where she is a sophomore.

Hardwick says she wants to wear the emblem to pay tribute to ancestors who fought on the Confederate side of the Civil War. She said she has been forced to change clothes or turn her shirt inside-out, and has been suspended twice and threatened with being kicked off the track team.

John Kirby, school superintendent, said Monday that officials "have clothing issues every year ... and we've handled it consistently every time."

Among those marching with Candice was a black man, H.K. Edgerton, past chairman of the Southern Legal Resource Center's advisory board. The group filed a federal lawsuit in March on her behalf.

"She's made a stand for her Southland," said Edgerton. A former local NAACP leader in North Carolina, he is known for dressing up in Confederate gear to emphasize what he describes as the role blacks played in voluntarily supporting the South in the Civil War.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that the First Amendment protects students' political expressions during school hours so long as they don't substantially disrupt the education process.

The high court has not ruled specifically on whether a student may wear Confederate symbols. Three years ago, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta upheld a lower court ruling allowing a school to ban the Confederate flag.


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Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: dreth on May 22, 2006, 08:15:45 PM
i say that shes HOT so let her wear what she wants ;)


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: big-daddy on May 22, 2006, 08:47:38 PM
I agree, but not becuase she hot.  ;)


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Dr.Dirt on May 22, 2006, 08:52:40 PM
The highschool that I went to this year would not allow anything to be worn with a confederate flag, but yet the spanish kids could wear there purto rican and mexican flags without trial. It lead to alot of racial (sp?) violence and our highschool in its first year became the most violent school in our school district. It was also the only highschool in the district where kids couldnt wear the confederate flag.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: AintSkeered on May 22, 2006, 09:05:57 PM
If they're not allowed to wear whatever flag they desire, how are teachers and patriotic Americans going to identify them and educate them about the evils of hate and anarchy? It's unlawful and discriminatory to give them a written test to identify their lack of education, unless it's written in their language or cultural dialect(e.g. Ebonics)!   


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: DZ 350 on May 22, 2006, 09:10:35 PM
i say that shes HOT so let her wear what she wants ;)

ya she looks pretty hot, wheres that school at? i might swing by there to go see what shes doin later lol

BTW i got yelled at by my P.E teacher because i wore my dixie appearl shirt with a confederate flag on it, and Dr.Dirt has a good point that the spanish and other heritages where their flags on them and they don't get yelled at, and we where a flag that shows what we belive in and to stand up for our anchestors that fought in the war, then we get yelled at  >:(


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: backwoods boy on May 22, 2006, 10:50:16 PM
hey bubba i just turned 17


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Yamaha72 on May 22, 2006, 10:55:12 PM
wow, you guys read the part on her being 15 right?

yea not every young member on this forum is 18.... This is an ongoing issue at my school too, they had the news at my school last year for the same thing, the only thing that pisses me off is those "wannabe" rednecks that youve known for a while and they never used to dress or act like this that walk around doing dip all day just too get attention, and have horticulture 3 out of 4 classes a day....


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Pro52R on May 22, 2006, 11:27:02 PM
Dixie Outfitters etc shirt are cool and such and the rebel flag has nothing to do w/ racism..but i dunno bout ya'll...but i ahve this sterotype thing..most of the ppl wearing Dixie Outfitters..oh i dunno..semm to be part of the white trash renegade


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: MadMudder on May 22, 2006, 11:27:42 PM
This has been a debate for years in my district. It ticks me off that people in my area think that the flag stands for slavery. It doesn't. It stands for the people that fought on the confederate side of the war and today it is our hertiage. Its just like the American flag. My cousin has a shirt that has the rebel flag on the back and under it says if you find this shirt offensive then you need a history lesson. Needless to say im looking for one right now... 8)


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: dreth on May 23, 2006, 07:51:24 AM
wow, you guys read the part on her being 15 right?

yea not every young member on this forum is 18.... This is an ongoing issue at my school too, they had the news at my school last year for the same thing, the only thing that pisses me off is those "wannabe" rednecks that youve known for a while and they never used to dress or act like this that walk around doing dip all day just too get attention, and have horticulture 3 out of 4 classes a day....



where did svbolts post of shes only 15 go?  my response was a joke just like this stupid debate! the americans have no rights anymore >:(


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: svtbolt04 on May 23, 2006, 08:30:36 AM
wow, you guys read the part on her being 15 right?

yea not every young member on this forum is 18.... This is an ongoing issue at my school too, they had the news at my school last year for the same thing, the only thing that pisses me off is those "wannabe" rednecks that youve known for a while and they never used to dress or act like this that walk around doing dip all day just too get attention, and have horticulture 3 out of 4 classes a day....

I deleted them because I knew it was going to stir up a mess.

where did svbolts post of shes only 15 go?  my response was a joke just like this stupid debate! the americans have no rights anymore >:(


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: backwoods boy on May 23, 2006, 12:23:08 PM
go to http://www.rebeloutlet.com/products.php?cat=30&PHPSESSID=3ac0065b3ea46b9cad4cc647d3b457c9 theyve got what your lookin for the history lesson thing along w/ other great CONFEDERATE stuff 


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Fox17 on May 23, 2006, 01:59:33 PM

the americans have no rights anymore >:(


100% true! >:( :gr :cursing.gif


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: o4250 on May 23, 2006, 02:27:53 PM
wow, you guys read the part on her being 15 right?

the only thing that pisses me off is those "wannabe" rednecks that youve known for a while and they never used to dress or act like this that walk around doing dip all day just too get attention, and have horticulture 3 out of 4 classes a day....

Exactly! I thought my school was the only one with these kids!


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: ndonnine on May 24, 2006, 08:42:46 PM
If she goes far enough with this, she will win. Which will set a good example for further rulings in courts. I dont think shes' that hot lol.

bad Style.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: DZ 350 on May 24, 2006, 10:14:47 PM
If she goes far enough with this, she will win. Which will set a good example for further rulings in courts. I dont think shes' that hot lol.
bad Style.

she looks good from far, but she might be far from good lol :D


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Chuck_Norris on May 24, 2006, 10:25:32 PM
She appears to have a good head on her shoulders. if only there were others with the same intestinal fortitude


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on May 26, 2006, 12:02:32 PM
It is about time somebody stands up for the side of right. Far too long has the flag been mislabled.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: gery350 on May 26, 2006, 12:04:11 PM
southern boy-

DUDE YOUR WAY OUT OF LINE.



Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Joedirt on May 26, 2006, 12:08:30 PM
Someone needs some manners , at 17 to have views like that is disgraceful.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: big-daddy on May 26, 2006, 12:24:50 PM
more like a azz whooping!


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on May 26, 2006, 12:40:14 PM
Whoa. I did not even notice that. dude, you are a dumb ass straight up. You are the reason so many people relates the flag with racism.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on May 26, 2006, 12:42:07 PM
i think we should tell the stupid n1ggers to shuv it r go back to africa

Grow up!!! Sometimes its better to let people wonder if you are an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on May 26, 2006, 12:42:13 PM
By the way, it was not a choice trip for most of them there genius.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on May 26, 2006, 12:49:43 PM
 ;D

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Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: klutchbuster400 on May 26, 2006, 02:08:16 PM
more like a azz whooping!

thats how ya supposed to handle it, betcha southern boy wouldnt say somethin like that if mom and dad layed the hammer down ;)

that blonde chick is probably missing about 7 teeth....


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: backwoods boy on May 27, 2006, 11:02:27 AM
y dont ya mind your own business n stay outta mine n stop runnin your mouth if ya can't back it up


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: big-daddy on May 27, 2006, 11:18:27 AM
y dont ya mind your own business n stay outta mine n stop runnin your mouth if ya can't back it up

Looks to me you need a good a$$ whooping........ I like to see you come down to Miami and talk that sh!t boy!


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: klutchbuster400 on May 27, 2006, 12:09:49 PM
y dont ya mind your own business n stay outta mine n stop runnin your mouth if ya can't back it up
You're the one who's runnin your mouth bud ;)
and whats this non-sense about not being able to back it up, my vocabulary is obviously better, so i can back that up, are you talking about some sort of strenght competition?


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on May 27, 2006, 12:18:46 PM
Hey dipshit, I'll back it. You are a peice of ignorent wothless white trash. You and your kind is why we have to fight these battles. I would gladly befriend any black man over your kind any day. And if you think your tough, well then bring it on. You want to keep running your mouth like that you will end up in a wheel chair or a whole real quick.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: MachineDog on May 27, 2006, 12:46:33 PM
Dude, that ain't cool. And I can't even see how exactly that could come into this topic, we're talking about not being able to wear the confederate flag in school. She probably has no problem with blacks, and like it says she just wants to honor the people who died fighting. Right?


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Yamaha72 on May 27, 2006, 03:17:25 PM
y dont ya mind your own business n stay outta mine n stop runnin your mouth if ya can't back it up

This a public forum what you say is technically the whole worlds business dumba$$....


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on May 27, 2006, 06:33:46 PM
Southern BOYYou obviously are a very ignorant and small minded individual. If you have problems thinking of things to type OR the subjects confuse you then just sit back and read...or have your mommy read to you.  The  short version....... DON'T POST YOU IGNORANCE UNLESS YOU CAN BACK IT UP and BOY..... I CAN BACK IT UP.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on May 27, 2006, 06:51:32 PM
Southern BOYYou obviously are a very ignorant and small minded individual. If you have problems thinking of things to type OR the subjects confuse you then just sit back and read...or have your mommy read to you.  The  short version....... DON'T POST YOU IGNORANCE UNLESS YOU CAN BACK IT UP and BOY..... I CAN BACK IT UP.

That was good.

I think this peice of garbage has side tracked this thread enough. He has clearly proven that there is still a need to defend what is right. and thanks to shitbags like "BOY", it will be an up hill battle.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: americanhighlander on May 28, 2006, 08:07:46 PM
That girl should go on national tv for this debate
and i think everybody should have right to wear anything i don't care it's pink rebal flags
on her t-shirt.She should go protest outside white house  in washton dc and captial hill..

I know every redneck if they heard  this story what happen to that 15year
oh! i bet that whole town is riding by that school with  alot rebel flags driving by,
i bet they have a rebel flag cement into ground there.lol  :)



 


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on May 28, 2006, 09:47:01 PM
It is a Confederate flag, not a rebel flag. The term rebel is a generic term and not be mistaken for what the flag represents.

However, I see your point.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: o4250 on June 01, 2006, 09:18:42 PM
what i meant by n1gger is any person white or black that listens to rap got 20+ rims got more gold teeth than white ive got black friends n i don't got anything against that  n i still got freedom of speech to voice my opinions whatever they be also my parents had no problem w/ what i wrote


wull my parantals sais' use a bad man man so i dont kow u parnets persmiisoin butt it not up to u parent wat u can write or not


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: klutchbuster400 on June 01, 2006, 09:58:54 PM
what i meant by n1gger is any person white or black that listens to rap got 20+ rims got more gold teeth than white ive got black friends n i don't got anything against that  n i still got freedom of speech to voice my opinions whatever they be also my parents had no problem w/ what i wrote


wull my parantals sais' use a bad man man so i dont kow u parnets persmiisoin butt it not up to u parent wat u can write or not
aint dat da truf!

i listen to rap, and my dad has 20 inch rims on his truck, all im missing is the gold teeth.
You're classification of people is way out of wack, and the way you classify, and what you call people in those classifications is just tickin for an @ss kickin.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: sinister450 on June 02, 2006, 09:25:02 AM
what i meant by n1gger is any person white or black that listens to rap got 20+ rims got more gold teeth than white ive got black friends n i don't got anything against that  n i still got freedom of speech to voice my opinions whatever they be also my parents had no problem w/ what i wrote

I'm sure your parents had no problem with what you wrote, after all the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I agree with the rest you, the reason why that flag is viewed as racist is because of ignorant hillbilly's like this one. Why don't you and your parents go march in Brownsville or Liberty City and proclaim your belief?? I got a better idea coward why dont you slip into your white klan outfit and drive off a cliff!


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: LonesomeTriZ on June 02, 2006, 09:34:05 AM
I can not believe you do not see the problem here. Tell your parents they are ignorant white trash as well. You are correct about one thing. You have the right to express your beliefs. That is one of the things I am fighting for. I serve this country and it tears into me to see some piece of garbage like you using the rights myself and other service members give to you as a shield for your blatant disregard for intelligence. Stop standing behind my heritage with your idiocy. Go back to your traitor and listen to some David Alien Coe and talk about how great life is.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on June 02, 2006, 05:20:50 PM
Sorry guys, I missed this thread and Moose just brought it to our (mods) attention. This moron has been banned for 3 days for his racial slurs and just being plain stupid.


Title: Re: S.C. Girl Protests Confederate Apparel Ban
Post by: big-daddy on June 02, 2006, 05:48:36 PM
Mike, I think the members on this site had it under control. Don’t blame the kid, blame his parents for having kids.