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This is my son talked about in this article. I don't care if the least amount of force was used. She was wrong for what she did. What in the hell is going on in todays schools and law enorcment?
 
http://www.oldies108.com/pages/localnews.html?feed=119223&article=493815

That sucks bro. What did the school board do to discipline her? Post a pic of that bizitch so we can all id her just in case we run into her at the store or something and feel like choking someone.  >:D

From what Shelby and I were told is that she would not teach in the county until the investigation were completed. I guess it is back to teaching and choking for her >:D

If there are any teachers who are members please don't take this to heart, I know you as teachers do a job that I couldn't do, but this women is wrong for what she did.

what really sucks is that you only have 7yr olds as witnesses >:( or a civil suit would be in order. im sorry this happend to you but im glad it wasnt me cause i would have choked her :-* and said it was out of love

She may not be accountable to the school or prosecution however she should be accountable $$$$$ wise.Call a darn lawyer they do that stuff all the time. They will tell you straight up if you have a chance.We all know they wont work if the odds arent in there favor! Plus w's ready for his own RHINO! 8)

Dreth, actually there were 3 more 7 yr old witnesses. I guess being they are youth, their statments don't me anything.

Re: I guess they can do as they please

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 As a school they are responsible for the conduct of their teachers.  Federal civil law allows for appropriate renumeration in cases of mal-feasance, non-feasance or mis-feasance when acting  under the color of law or authority. ( Cops, teachers, anyone in a authoritative position.)  Punitive (punishment) damages are considered against the actual teacher with general damages against the school.

AS A PARENT HOW MUCH FORCE CAN I USE TO CHOKE THE SH.T OUT OF HER
IF SHE DID THAT TO MY KID?? WITH OUT CHARGES???? HMMMMM

No, they would probably lock my azz up and throw away the key. I should of just marched in there and raise heck.

My wifes a teacher and I COMPLETELY agree with you. That's something that I don't understand??? So if someone uses minimal abuse on their kids, spouse, etc... If someones uses minimal force to Rape someone... I really don't get this one  :-\

Something similar happened to me in the 2nd grade. A teacher grabbed me by the arm when she got mad at me and started shaking me around and then pushed me into a chair and I had bruises on my arm from where she grabbed me and we went to the principal of the school but his response was "That teacher would never do anything like that" and we didnt do anything futher...  I think that you should check out getting a lawyer like bushwacker said, I think you could make a good case out of this.

Rob, I applaud your wife and any other teacher teaching our youth of today and yesterday, but the sub should of just stepped outside and collected her thoughts, anything but choke my son, I am dumbfounded.

I am very sorry to hear this. Greengriz, we all know she was wrong, and I feel she should be either removed, fired, probation, re-assigned, anger management or something. I do not think choking her is going to solve anything. That would reduce us to the rest of the crap that is going on in this country. There were 5 kids killed this weekend in S. Fla by guns and car accidents. One kid was killed because he said his car was cooler than this other car. Lets rise above it. Have a meeting with the school, your attorney and make sure this does not happen to someone else's kid. I have a 8 year old as well, and I would be freaked if someone put their hands on him. I hope your son is doing good.  

VForce, he has been doing pretty good. I just don't know how he is gonna be when my wife and I tell him there may be a chance that he see's her at school again.

Greengriz,  I wish I had the answer for that one. How is he going to react?? She could very well end up in his class again.   

05green,
thats terrible.
my first reaction would be to kill that person but then reality kicks in
and you realize you have to hold that beast thats eating at you inside.

i'm sorry.

Key word is SUBSTITUTE. She is a wanna be teacher. If it were my son I would have stalked her, found out where she shopped, ate & lived. Tires arent cheap, but roofing nails are. I have a 7 yr old son & my wife is a 2nd grade teacher, so I hear a lot of stories about kids, but she would never ever touch a kid, that is EXTREMELY FORBIDDEN. If a kid is a danger to others they are supposed to call the principles office for assistance, only in extreme cases are they to ever touch a kid & that would mean he/she was hurting or endangering another student. I personally would lose it if something like this happened. I would though take all necessary channels to make her life and career choice miserable. I would also instruct my son to immediately go to the office & call home to be picked up every time she is in his class. I would also check into a restraining order if possible. That should prevent her from teaching there.

 I feel for ya to, I went through the same thing a while back. On the fourth incident, at a private school, I was told of the choke hold on him as we were driving to my house for the weekend. I complained, very heated may I add. I asked, " if I did that to the teacher, I would be in jail right, and they said yes." Well I asked how the teacher can get away with it and not me. No answer.
 Long story short, I had to call the Pinellas County school board only to be told they dropped the case. Lack of evidence. They wouldn't even call me back to tell me, I asked why, got no answer. Everything happened in front of the class of 35, or out in the yard in front of 200 to 300 people.
 I wish I had got a lawyer and pursued it further. I don't know what happened to the teacher, but I do know the school was cited for several filthy bathrooms. Some toilets didn't work, so the little ones had to share one. At least they had to spend thousands on upgrades, and the kids have new bathrooms now. I pulled my son and enrolled him into another school immediately. Good luck.

OK, I have called the principal,doe, super and the school board atty. No 1 has answers nor have I spoke to anyone directly involved with the case. I am getting pi$$ed now!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok it gets better, human resources has just called me back and says that the states atty has dropped the case. Now, the school board atty esq or whatever just told me that the sub will not teach in manatee county schoolroom ever again. So we will see. Still have not heard where the radio station got the news from.

Don't stop there. Keep pushing. If you were different color then the naacp would be all over this.

Art:

I sent you a P.M.
This is crazy. We should talk.

~ Matt

:lecture.gif   Here we go. Hehehehehe

I left a voice message and you have a pm also.

ITS ON CAN YOU SAY NEW  RHINO?????????????
 ;)  HA!~ HA!~ HA!..................... :P ;D

what good is going come out of sueing the county . nothing but make your pockets fat for while. while the rest of pay more taxes to make up for it . and before you burn the substitute on the cross .i would like to here her side of it. the charges were she grabbed him by the throat not for choking him. sometimes people get to carried away ....

Obviously you dont know the circumstances & shoul step back.It is fact she put her hands on the boy.WTF do you have a kid? If someone touched my daughters like that they would pay. The idea of someone in a teaching position to even touch is way out of line.Hell yea sue the heck out of the county ,teacher , government if my taxes go up some it would be WELL worth it.Nobody touches our kids!

Schools are notorious for cover ups. My wife teaches in Hillsborough Co. Last week a 3rd grader was shot in the face by a pellet gun in an apparent drive by during P.E. I have not seen or heard anything about this on the news. The kid complained about a stinging in his cheek & thought it was a wasp or somebody threw a rock or something. The "school-nurse" looked at him & he went back to class ??? Later that night at home it swelled up & his parents took him to the doctor, the Dr said the xray showed a pellet or bb lodged deep in his cheek. He had to remove it surgically. I think the school nurse should be fired & this should be made public to help with the investigation but I cant jeopardize my wife & name names yet. If it were my son we would be on O'Reiley by now!!!!

What the heck is the difference? If I grab a guy by the throat I will go to jail just the same as if I grab him by the throat & exert force to choke. We are talking about an ADULT -vs- 7yr Old KID!!!!! A 7yr old kid can be restrained w/o a choke hold. Like the last post asked, Do you have kids? Would you like me to grab your 7yr old by the throat...ever...for any reason? ANSWER: NO!!!!!

yes i have 2  one is in college and the other is 15  im not saying anybody should be choked  and the charges against her arent for choking there for grabbing . most of the problem in schools now the kids have no respect or discipline and the teachers have no control.if the kid was choked there should be something done about it but there is a difference between grabbing and choking .

1. what good comes from sueing the county .hmm. maybe next time they wont brush it off as if it were nothing.

2. pay more taxes.?  ....... dont get me started on that. how bout people coming into this country getting crap for free without ever paying a penny in taxes. wait its not free its our tax dollars.

3. grabbed him by the throat....... maybe its ok to grab kids by the throat where you come from.  i guess you dont mind someone grabbing your kid by the throat.

was anybody there to really know anything about what happened. all i am saying is dont fry the teacher before you really know . kids can be very devious at times thats all ya'll have fun with it ........

So lets say your 2 in college were groped (grapped) a purely simple little touch on the breast,butt,groin by a college administrator??You would just let it slide till you heard there side about it???? :o

::) ::) ::)Grabbing a 7yr old by the throat is ok inyour book? Man I tell you, your book is a bit outdated. It isnt just the forum frying the teacher, but the radio station also. They could be sued for libel if it were lies. Seems like you are trolling for drama.

have you tried talking to the teacher . this isnt a full grown man that grabbed your kid it is a woman im sure she wasnt trying to kill or grope your kid so before you try to ruin her life just be sure.

You should be a defense attorney. She or he made a bad decision & should pay for it, you & I would if we did it to OUR OWN KIDS!!! Much less someone elses, who entrusted her/him with their childs well being. As for size or sex, that is weak. It could be a 300lb woman or a 125lb man it doesnt matter it is an ADULT who should show professionalism that she was taught & always remember the Golden Rule!

Listen here Pitts, I asked my son point blank, did the teacher put her hands around your neck and choke you, it is very important that you tell daddy the truth because someone could get in a lot of trouble over this. He looked me dead in the eyes and says yes daddy i'm not lying she choked me. PERIOD!!!

Everyone chill out, All Pitts is saying is that someone needs to get the teachers side. I know W and he is definitely all boy but he's also VERY respectful and a well behaved young man. Regardless of why the teacher did this, It should have never happened.
Keep in mind everyone, Pitts sin't saying that it was the right thing to do, He's just saying to get the teachers side. Then choke the s#$t out of her.  ;D

The sheriff's office says 1.Linda Jandrlich grabbed a 7 year old by the throat in February at Palm View elementary.  But prosecutors say the 2.amound of force used did not justify taking the case to court.

1. its not a question if she did it or not. charges werent placed because it was a question of force rather then if it actually occurred.

2. the question is "amount of force".  so how do you measure amount of force? by the color of the bruising, or did the child black out-and if so, for how long. oh wait lets get technical. we can use a torque wrench.

 i would love to know what unit of measure the prosecuters used to determine "insufficient force" on the throat of a 7 year old.

yea true & let a parent rap his own child in the butt in public and see what happens.

The issue is the Foxckin teacher touched the child weather hard or not it is a child! Thats it.Hell If you push or spit someone it could be simple assault / battery & jail you come! What is the difference here for the darn teacher? Let alone a sub.Thats what training is for if the sub wasnt taught self control whats next .

This is a parent angry because of not getting proper justice for what was done to his son.He is a better man than I because I couldnt of restrained myself would have choked out the sub & I would be locked up from my children at this point.Dont you get it?He is looking for support here from friends not idiots to compound the situation and interject stupid comments to make him angrier.

Just think before you post ;)

thanks for the help.  i dont believe in hurting any kid . and if she did she should be punished . but some of these things get blown out of proportion  and im sorry if i offended anyone but you are publicily ruining a womans life. just be sure she didnt reach for the shoulder to turn him around or something like that if he has any marks there is no doubt she is guilty as h"ll

This boys manners are better than most adults here!

and another thing bushwacker the only idiot here is you . I can control when i need to but youi crossed the line . all i was saying is that so much of this stuff goes on every day. you dont have one shred of evidence against this woman and your ready to hang her that is stupid..........

let one of my teachers try and choke me, they'll get a punch to the face like they never felt before.
and a huge law suit ;D

All I am saying is that he was hysterical from the time he told my mother until they arrived at my place of employment and I was able to calm him and let him know he was safe. The 5 minutes of hysteria had my mother very upset thet time they got here. Again I asked my son to tell me the truth, he told me what happened and it just so happens that I have lunch with him on fridays quite often, so guess which friends he picks to have lunch with us at our own table. The 3 other kids that witnessed it. The principal took statements from all 4 kids. The strange part is that I believe 2 days later the detective shows up and questions all 4 kids, but strangly enough, the detective returns 2 weeks later and questions them again without any of the parents consent. Something smells fishy to me.

Bush and Pitts, Drop the B.S.
Both of you should come together and be supportive here. This isn't a name calling contest.

sorry about this 05greengriz I sincerely hope everything goes well . it wasnt supposed to go this far  hope everythin gets better

I respect that Mike you are right.

"Jandrlich asked the boy twice to be quiet while standing in a line at the school, one witness said.

"Stop talking," Jandrlich said as she grabbed the boy's throat, according to a classmate.

 :-* to both of ya.

Trust me Pitts, I have a heart of gold and feel sick to my stomach of the thought of her being in big trouble and or worse, but on the other hand she was wrong for what she is accused of. My child or anybody else's should never have to be subject to that.

Thank you all for your support :ThumbsUp.gif

just about to say the samething

I DONT CARE WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU ARE, YOUR HANDS AROUND ANY CHILDS NECK IS A CRIME. As a teacher you should know better.

Art I say go get them and ill pay the tax increase ;)