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Since the zoning board passed the request for special exception late last month, Neighbors who were not even present at the meeting have been in an uproar. Yesterday 3-15-06 a new edition of the Suwannee Democrat came out with a frontpage article crying foul, and about half a dozen letters to the editor were published degrading the track and the track owners. My family has also received personal letters from people over a mile away from the track complaining about it that were nothing more then 2 page long whining sessions riddled with personal attacks on my family and I's character. How worthless human beings we are, and a direct attack on my parents for how they have chosen to raise me from a child. The other feedback I've received from other riders and people interested in it have all been extremely positive, its a vocal minority of tree huggers that is stiring things up.

If you have time, Please read this biased article the Suwannee Democrat printed yesterday: http://www.suwanneedemocrat.com/homepage/local_story_073162436.html?keyword=topstory
Let me add, that the sign issue alledgedly being changed the day before the hearing is pure lies. It did have the date on it incorrectly, but it was changed over a week before the hearing. The paper also mentions that the track is being put in because of the "20 year old land owners son's dream". While it is my dream to have a track, this is not about me. This is about other people and families who have no where legal to ride at in this county that already has such a lack of things to do that we gather in grocery store parking lots to socialize. To provide people a place where they can take their family, spouses, or just their friends to go and ride at in a controlled and safe enviroment. It wasnt to long ago that right here in Suwannee County we had a Sherriff's deputy killed riding a quad along side the road when he hit a culvert in a driveway. I would like to think that if we had a place for him and his friends to rid when that happened, he might still be here.

If you support a place to ride in the Suwannee County area, then I ask that you take a few moments to draft a nice clean non offensive letter to the editor in support of our project at this email address: NF.editorial@gaflnews.com I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time and support...I will keep everyone updated as I get info.


Billy Golightly

Keep us posted on this and I hope it goes through. Good Luck.

Published: March 14, 2006 04:24 pm

Landowners cry foul over ATV racetrack

Susan K. Lamb, Democrat Managing Editor

Landowners who live around a proposed 80-acre ATV campground and racetrack site in northern Suwannee County that will be open from 8 a.m. until 8 p.m. daily are crying foul over a zoning board hearing on the issue they say they were never notified about.

But, the county says it has met all the requirements and there is no law that says they have to notify adjoining landowners or nearby landowners.

During the zoning board meeting, the board voted to approve the application of landowners who said they wanted to satisfy their 20-year-old son's lifetime dream by building the campground and ATV racetrack one parcel of land south of the Suwannee River and a Suwannee River Water Management property. The applicants for a special exception on land zoned Ag 1, Enola and William Golightly, said the property values around the racetrack would actually increase because of the racetrack and primitive campground.

While a number of people spoke in favor of the proposal, only a few spoke against it at the hearing Feb. 23. That, say some neighbors, is because they did not know about the public hearing and were never notified so they could attend and express their opinion.

At least one landowner, Stacey Worth, says she is investigating the possibility of suing the county since she was never notified of the zoning hearing held two weeks ago, even though she owns 300 acres that adjoins the property in question.

Some landowners say they did not know about the zoning hearing. Others said a sign posted on the seldom traveled dead-end graded road didn't have the correct information up until the day before the hearing until it was changed at the last minute.

While the county has records to prove it notified six landowners in the area, Worth was not on that notification list. Worth's property adjoins the property in question on the west side.

Others who own property in the area west of the Florida Sheriffs Boys Ranch on a graded road north of Fort Union that begins as 145th Road, changes to 20th Street and then to 151st Road, say they should have been notified even though their property doesn't adjoin the proposed tract.

While some knew about the meeting, those who didn't are just plain mad as evidenced by the number of letters to the editor in today's edition regarding the matter (see Page 4A).

In a letter to Suwannee County Coordinator Johnny Wooley, Worth said Zoning Director Ron Meeks told her that ""we do not have to give notice to any adjacent land owners, it is only a courtesy." Worth added that Meeks also told her ""the land owners had to be within a 300 foot radius"" to be notified of the hearing. Worth said the county has set a precedent in the past by notifying all adjacent landowners but this time, just didn't bother.

Worth is asking that the application's approval be rescinded and tabled until further studies have been conducted and all parties are notified so they can attend to express their wishes in the matter. She is appealing the zoning board's decision based upon 1) Failure to provide property information to all parties involved, and 2) Failure to comply with Land Use Regulations.

Suwannee County Coordinator Johnny Wooley said although an appeal has been filed by Worth regarding her not being notified, there is no requirement of the zoning board to notify anyone in writing, only by legal notice in the Suwannee Democrat and to the party who files the request for the hearing. "The Land Develop Rules (LDRs) don't require written notice," he said. "We are required to notify in writing the parties who have actually applied for the hearing." Regarding past written notification, Wooley admits the county had done so in the past. "We have done it in the past just as a courtesy, but there's no legal requirement to do so," Wooley said. "Historically, we have notified adjoining property owners."

Wooley said the zoning board will hear the appeal at the next regular meeting March 30 at 6:30 p.m. at the Live Oak City Hall. However, Wooley added, the appeal is only on the non-notification of Worth. No appeal has been filed on the issue of the notification sign not having the proper information or that landowners whose property doesn't adjoin were not notified, he said.

"My interpretation as land use administrator is the proper posting was given with the sign and legal advertising,” Wooley said. "My position is we have followed the rules."

Wooley said the only way the zoning board can rehear the issue is if their attorney advises them to do so. The appeal can also be taken to the circuit court.

Susan K. Lamb may be reached by calling 1-386-362-1734 ext. 131 or by emailing susan.lamb@gaflnews.com.

PLease keep us posted I would love to have a track in live oak.

I heard all about crash storys on atvs in live oak back in
2004. Well come back later tonight I'm posting somting on here
from six editor letters from newpaper i got from today.Theses
people are nuts in head they don't understand about us.

I would love  have a  atv/dirtbike track here in live oak for
all redneck ute riders out there for teens
and for all big guys out there.

If this happens i even try talk my parents take me to that
atv track to ride there later on.

This can help alot people here.We need all Ohv protests up here
even bikers too bad you didn't went to bike week in orlando.

Thanks,
amhighlander  8)

Thank you for the support guys. I'll admit its been difficult seeing all these lies and accusations come from people that you have done nothing but help ever since you have lived in the area, and for some of them even before. It just makes me want to make sure it goes through even more, I wont let their attacks on mine and my families character make me lose sight on what this about, and thats where they have underestimated us.

We finally got our resoloution from the county signed and in our hand today, so everyone opposed it has 30 days now to take an appeal to circuit court. I fully expect to be getting notice about that soon, when I do I'll let everyone know that is interested in it. In the meantime I'd reccomend writing a letter to the editor of the Suwannee Democrat with your opinons.


Billy

I was raised in Live Oak, My step dad still lives there and i go visit once in a while, Please let me know if i could do anything to help, I've been a City Commissionier before, (not for live oak), So i could be of some help, if i can. email me slcrews2003@yahoo.com

I was in at mcalpin ready freddy gas station
today i pickup newpaper today and i talk to lady she said: they need
somthing for fourwheeler riders out there for kids not running away.

I heard they are trying stop it but we need this ohv
backyard park so bad in this area here.

I hope it passes here.
We need all riders up here to fight this
iuess up here.

You should see this six  editor letters for suwwnnee dem crat newpaper
I'll post them on here and I think theses people are nuts in head
up here.They don't know how big atv community in florida and we
have alot atv rednecks here in suwannee county when you drive on roads here in live oak and lake city areas.

Plus i did  all typing this for all members out there to see this.I just
copycat from newpaper. ;)

This what i got from newpaper today.
(Letters To The Editor)

1#
Dear,Editor:
This letter is in reference to special exception zoing change
made by zoning board on feb 23 on allowing a racetrack
and campground to go in business on parcels north of county.I am
an adjacent land owner  and i was not properly notified by the county.
According to the land development regulations,the board of adjustment is
to give public notice thereof,as well as due notice to all the parties involved.

They did inform in writing to some of the land owners that were north
of this venture with a buffer of 40acres,but failed to inform was how i was
overlooked when the other land owners are onseven to 30acers and mine is
a 300 acre parcel.
Sincerely,Stacey Worth

2#
Dear Editor,
I am writing in regards to the special exception recently passed
allowing an ATV/Dirt bike race track in my nice,quiet,safe community near  the river.
Our community is stunned.
Just two years ago our community made it clear how we felt about
race tracks in the area when we fought a similar zoning change.Now,
an exemption that will decimate the way of life
we've so carefully chosen and developed had slipped through.
The big question everyone had asked us is why we didn't do
something to stop it?We would have loved to.Regretfully,only select
adjoining neighbors were notified with limed details.The sing on the
property sits on the end of very narrow dirt road with multiple
bind turns that dead ends at river,only two families drive down there.
The sing even had the wrong date on it up untill 5 days before the meeting!
In the last two weeks two deaths have incurred in gainesville on atv/dirt bike race tracks.Who knows how many were injured.
Is the county planning to  an ambulance available during daylight hours.
In my earlier life i race dirt bikes and from experience,I can tell you,
no one  wants to live near an atv/dirt bike race track.
Don't let one 20-year-olds' dream override the drem overrider the dreams
of the surrounding community members we have worked so hard for.
We can never get back what we will lose if this track goes through
for the benefit of one.
Thank for your time,Brett deutsch

3#
Dear Editor:
The front page story about the Atv/dirt bike race track that was
approved by zoning board in the fort union neighborhood took
virtually everyone in that neighborhood by surprise.We believe
 the track owner successfully  hid her intentions from her
neighbors,knowing that  the last time a track was proposed for our
area approximately 100 neighbors showed up to protest it.The
 property is near the end of a dead end road,so virtually no
neighbors saw the zoning sign.
The plan calls for racing from 8am to 8pm seven days a week,with an
estimated 450 carloads each week.Within a half mile from the race track
are two churches,a cemetery, the suwannee river(along with the florida wilderness trail),and many homes.The road leading to the track is a small
dirt road on which children often ride bikes and horses.None of the people
associated with  any of these interests,no any families on the road,were
notified,nor were they mentioned in the hearing.
The property owners presented pages of information I conside
misleading to the zoning board in which they made claims that
such tracks raised adjoining property values and attracted wildlife.
Although the information was purported to be from various web sites,
the web addresses had been removed from every page,
preventing anyone from finding the sources to check for veracity
or context.
The propert owner ststed that having a race track had been her son's
dream for 12years.What about the dreams of all the neighbors who
have wored a lifetime to save for their homes and retirement?
How many people do you know who are clamoring to
live next door to a race track?
We are asking the property owners and the county to do the
right thing,and have this matter brought up in full light rather than having
neighbors upset because their voice couldn't be heard becuase
they weren't notified.If they truly believed they were doing something for
the community,this is how it should have been done,and
how we expect good neighbors to do it.
Caroline Coile


4#
Dear, Editor,
My family recently moved to live oak (Fort Union area)from
fort lauderdale.Our desire was to escape the noise,pollution,
crowding and stress,whice are common down south.
Unfortunately,it appears our dream is to be short-lived.One of
our neghnors hads petitioned to put in a racetrack for 4wheelers
that  will be open to the public.
This is not welcome  change for our area.
As new comers, we tolerated the occasional appearance of 4wheelers.
The end result of their vists is trash strewn about and the unpaved road
(the only access to our home)being torn up by them doing"donuts" with their machines.
It is still to be determined if the letter of the law was met in the
notification process(I believe virtually no one was aware of this),
but it most certainly did not meet the spirit.
Suwannee County needs  to grow but in a sensible and well
planned fashion,neither piecemeal nor catering to special intertests.
If this is any indication of what to expect from our zoning board,
it does not bode well for suwannee County's future.
Rocky Stewart

5#
Dear, Editor:
On thursday,Feb 23, the suwannee couty zoning board
conducted a meeting at the live oak city hall.On their agenda
was a proposal for a variance in land usage that was zone
agricultural.The proposal was allow the building of a motorcycle/
Atv race track.The 80-acre tract of land is located in northern portion of
suwannee county,north of CR 132, and very close to the Florida
Sheriffs youth ranch.A sizeable gathering of people were in
attendance supporting the proposed zoning change.A very small
group of local residents were present to contest the zoning change.
 Approximately 10 minutes into the proceedings it became very
apparent to me that the zoning board had already made up
their mind grant the variance.
Testimony was given by the petitioner stating the construction
of the race track would have a positive  impact upon suwannee
county.How surrounding land values would not be affected or
could even increase in value.Do you really think that after this
track becomes operational that anyone would go to real estate office
and ask if they had any land for sale next to noisy race track.
I think not!
Next,the board allowed those who were not in favor of the zoning
change to state their thoughts.The mainconcern of those opposed
to the zoning change was the loss of property value and the
environmental noise pollution.Board chairman tommie jefferson
seemed to be amused by the pleas asking that the zoning change
be refused.I realiszed that all the pleading were falling on deaf ears.
Most of the people in attendance who opposed the zone change
had not become aware of the scheduled board meeting untill the
afternoon of the meeting.It was pointed out by the board that all
legal requirements had been followed.A legal notice had been run in
the suwannee democrat,a sing had been posted on the effected
property site and a written notice had been sent to the effected
residents who lived within 300feet of the proposed race track.
What the board did not take into consideration was the fact that
property owners who live within several miles of the race track
will be adversely effected also.
It was requsted that out of common courtesy and fairness
the board postpone its vote on the iuess untill the local
residents who will be effected by the race track are contacted and
allowed to testify.Jefferson rejected this request,stating he felt
no futther testimony was needed.

The board voted unanimously to allow the zoning change.
One member of the board exused herself from th voting due
to posible conflict of interest.She stated she had family members
who lived in the effected area.
By allowing this zoning change,the zoning board has placed
one person's personal financial gains far above the peace
and tranquillity of hundreds of citizens of suwanne county who will
be adversely effected by the change.These people,including myself,
purchased property in a part of the county that is zoned agricultural.
They wanted peace and quiet.After the construction of the race track,
that will come to an end.The track will be open from 8am  until 8pm
Now, half of our life will be spent listening to unmuffled motorcycles
and ATV's racing on the track.The peace and quiet of country living will
be no more.
After seeing this zoning change occur,I think it would be in the
best interest of all concerned,that the board of county commissioners
adopt and ordinance and require all real estate agencies who sell
land in suwannee county place the following notice on the
property listing:
"WARNING:Even though the property you are considering
buying is zoned agricultural,there is always the possibility that the
suwannee county zoning board could change the zoning classification
and allow someone to build a race track in your backyard."
Respectively,
Leon gill jr.

#6
Dear, Editor,
Please imagine 40 motorcycles all going full throttle
12hours per day seven days a week  within hearing distance
of your backyard.Then imagine a camping facility next to the
racetrack to fill the night with displeasing music and partying with
alcohol allowed.This noise can be heard over two miles away.
These are the plans of one family in a rural community that
hads for years prided itself in the quiet and serenity that can
only be found in such a rual setting.
On february 23 the suwannee county zoning
board agreed with the one family.Not with the entire
community of residents and landowners who voiced their
objections in no uncertain terms.
What led the board to this decision?
The zoning board is instructed by the comprehensive
zoning rules to address the affect this racetrack will
have on public health,safety,welfare,order,comfort,
appearance,prosperity,access impact,taffic flow and control,
fire or castastrophe,compatibility with existing land use,noise,glare,
odor,dust,and smoke.
The board is further instructed that stisfactory provision and
arroangements have been made concerning the following
matters:
.The Exist Land use pattern
.The Impact on pubic roads
.The impact on living conditions in the neghborhood
.The impact upon traffic congestion or other public
safety matters
.The impact of the proposed use upon property values
.The impact of the proposed use with regard to the scale
of needs of the neighborhood or the community Again,
the neighborhood of over  a 2-mile radius is anxious to
know why the board failed to address each and every one of
issues.
The decision the zoning board had given this proposed permit is,
if not illegal,at the very least morally reprehensible.
I beliveve that a full review by the elected ruling bodies of the
county be taken.If not that,then alegal appeal should
be pursued.
Charles Bartley




Please address letters to:
Letters To The Editor, Suwannee DemoCrat,
PO Box 370, Live Oak,FL 32064.

Full Name:

Full Address

Daytime phone #

I won't be here for rally protest,
I might be in orlando before that time happens.

My best battle plan you should  do a rally up protest with
atvs loading up into pickup trucks,vans,suvs with trailers
with our web site supported sticker on it,and protest in front of
schools riding by during hours between 7am or 9am
and around 2pm between 3pm.So they are three roads come in
from bass rd on us129 south at bp gas station
take dirt road on walker ave and head north you can go on pine ave
or just go north on walker ave.You should show up between 29th march
or march 30th during before evening hours hit at live oak city hall before vote passes.

We need alot big rednecks atvs be rallying up  big guns here
and rained the streets with pickups,vans,etc, with atvs in them.
We should parade around us 129 area too.Bring Pa speaks with shouting your voice and let rednecks hear you out there in streets of live oak. :)

See what i'm saying about that.
Think about it!! it's very good idea to do that.

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Anybody rallying up for protest
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There is nothing to protest at this point. The Zoning board of adjustment already approved our application last month, now we just have to wait another 30 days for an appeal to either come up, or not come up. All I'm asking for right now are articulate, well written, level headed letters to the editor of the Suwannee Democrat in support of our sport.

I hope alot good letters went through to suwanne democrat newpaper.
Keep us posted on that riding atv/dirtbike race track over there in live oak.

I think our members on this site should go meet person in real person
to that 20year guy making that offroad race track happen in live oak area.
Somebody should go see him?

Thanks,
amhighlander  8)

I would love to see a mx track come into live oak. The main purpose would be that waldo has tons of dirtbikes.   I really feel obliged to write a letter but have no clue about what I should say.

Hi Hondaatc, Here's what i e-mailed the editor:

I cannot beleive the hypocrasy of those "neighbors" in opposing this Family's desire  to do something constructive with their "PRIVATE PROPERTY". You always hear people complain about the ATV crowd how we ride in peoples yards, and on their property, The moment someone wants to do something for us, you are all against it. I hope they do get the permit, and if they dont, maybe they should get a permit for a "Bombing Range". Maybe there would be an accident or two and this would be a mute point.If you cannot respect others people private property, then yours should be taken away....

Good luck with this. Can you please try to help me out also? Can you please e-mail the collier county commission asking that we be let back in the picayune until the promised 640 acres are found? It's under open discussion, March 28th. Thank you and the best of wishes...

rappy350, Just say that your a rider in the area and how important it is to you that there is a place that you and your friends can go ride at legally and safely. And how many families you see at the races together, things like that. One of the letters stated unmuffled ATVs and Dirtbikes on the track, how many quads and dirtbikes have you seen racing MX without a muffler? I've never seen a single one before.

lswjth2, Thanks. I've been reading and you South Florida guys problems with the county down there. I'll go write a letter for you right now.

Thxs Buddy. Let me know if i can help in any way...

I just sent a letter to the news paper and emphasized about the sport and families.

rappy350, Thanks. Tell your friends and family members that ride to email them too.

lswjth2, I posted my email and the reply I received in your sticky thread. Looks like you guys might have a good chance judging by the one reply i received. Good luck with it.

We need get all offroad dealers
in our area in north florida to write theses
people and call them.

Here's list of dealers

I did post this on another forum
while back about year ago.

Here's  local atv dealers  near  mcalpin FL
so  theses are  about   10-miles up 65miles away.  8)

Here's  contact numbers and local cities.

Honda dealers

Interstate Honda
580 Sw Florida Gateway Dr
Lake City, FL 32024-3856
(386)758-2453
Internet Manager:
Gail Osburn   

Streit's Honda
4820 Nw 13th St
Gainesville, FL 32609-1796
(352)376-2637
Internet Manager:
Frank Curtis 

POLARIS Dealers

MCDUFFIE MARINE & SPORT GOODS
1866 US HWY 90 WEST
LAKE CITY, FL 32055
Phone: 386-752-2500


JACK'S BOATS AND TRAILERS INC
449 US 19 NORTH
PERRY, FL 32347
Phone: 850-584-2162






POLARIS OF GAINESVILLE
9420 NW 13TH ST
GAINESVILLE, FL 32653
Phone: 352-373-5983

Suzuki Dealers

Mott Suzuki
US 90 West, Live Oak, FL, 32064-0800 
Phone Number: 386/362-1042 

Website: www.mottsuzuki.com 
 

 
Interstate Suzuki
580 SW Florida Gateway Dr
Lake City, FL, 32024-7701 
Phone Number: 386/758-2453 

kawasaki dealers

HUDSONS DISCOUNT KAWASAKI
Distance: 19.03
2975 E US HIGHWAY 90
LAKE CITY, FL 32055-1425
USA
(386) 758-0057 Phone
(386) 758-0066 Fax

STREIT'S KAWASAKI
Distance: 48.69
4820 NW 13TH ST
GAINESVILLE, FL 32609-4142
USA
(352) 376-2637 Phone
(352) 376-3360 Fax


OCALA MOTORSPORTS KAWASAKI
Distance: 80.09
3920 N US HIGHWAY 441
OCALA, FL 34475-8707
USA
(352) 732-8531 Phone
(352) 732-4929 Fax

Local atv's dirt bikes shops

MIKE'S BIKES 
(386) 758-4778 
90 EAST & 100
lake city FL 32087

AL'S MOTORCYCLE SHOP
(386) 758-5824 
1326 E DUVAL ST
LAKE CITY, FL 32055     
---->this on hwy 90 east of downtown lake city FL  and almost out by airport.





This should  help you out.  :)

 :) Btw six complain's i post on here
you won't never see that  infomation on
suwannee demcrat web site.Becuase
i had post them on here for all members on this site here
to get word out  to see what your own opinons about that.

What i think about six complain's from editors letters
theses people don't understand people need entertainment
 for young people,and big guys here in live oak (area) here.

I know we have to travel to lake city for nearest movie theater,and
nearest malls are about 60miles or 80miles away.

But  No matter,
what if try put somting in live oak like,movie theaters,game rooms,
etc,and on and on,they always stop it from coming into this town.
Well i have live here in mcalpin for almost 9years so far.

I would loved see atv/dirt bike race track coming into live oak
here for all atv clubs to come there and for all ohv riders out there
in northern florida surrounding counties here.

So keep on emailing suwannee demcrat newpaper
I don't care if flooded them out.So i might see your letters
 from editors letters in newpaper,But i might not see your website
on it just people's letters and nameds in there.

Thanks,
amhighlander  8)

 

WOW !!!  ain't been on here in awile... hey Billy ... i'm calling you today .......3-26-06... Later Brother ........

 :-\ We should know by tomorrow if pasts or not?, And maybe
it will be in next wednesday newpaper.
I need go try pick one up next week.

(Lets us know how it goes)

Thxs,

Well don't get friday's today  suwannee demcrat  newpaper,
I haven't see anything on new atv/dirt bike  track pass in there,
and i'll try this wednesday to see if anything comes up in suwannee demcrat.


(So let us know what happens)
just post it on here.

Thanks,
amhighlander  :)

I didn't attend the zoning meeting on Thursday, because it didn't pertain to us. An adjoining land owner had filed an appeal to the zoning board on the fact that she didn't believe she was adequately notified. I'm not sure whether she withdrew this appeal or the board denied it, but evidently that is done and over with. I am expecting an actual appeal to be filed in circuit court against the boards decision to grant the exception in a few days.

please tell us when you start biulding it I would love to ride this track once it is done.   

Keep us updated on it.

Thanks, for update on here.  :)

I hope it passes and good luck on it,and don't be afraid
and show your feelings about it and your comments about it.


Thanks,
amhighlander   ;)

I was wondering how this was going for you.  I hope it all works out for you.
Gabe

Thanks for the support everyone. If we ever get all the technicalities and stuff worked out I'll definetly let you know.

Well guys its official, the decision is headed to the circuit court.  It looks like we're going to be waiting a few months now before we know anything. From what I understand, once it gets there the county attorney and the attorney for Mrs Worth will be arguing to the judge whether the first hearing was within all the legal areas of being completed, or whether it warrants to be heard again. The judge then has the ability to stop the whole thing right there and say that the hearing was propperly conducted, everything that needed to be done was done. Or, he can order the zoning board to re-hear this same issue again and more or less making the first one null and void.

Theres also about a paragraph on it in amongst another article on the Greencycle manure processing plant in the Suwanee Democrat today: http://www.suwanneedemocrat.com/local/local_story_094162603.html

In the meantime, I thought I would post a few pictures of the signs and things that some of the neighbors have been putting up in their own little seperate "protest" of the track. All of these have been posted along the county road that you have to take to get to our property. Look at them and tell me what you think...

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CRAZY or what?

Well at least i did went buy a used 17inch montior today for 10$
at my friends house today and it hads mic built into on top of montior.But i can see pics alot better
in my room. :)

Theses people  can't spell very well too much hanging around in woods too long..(LOL)  ;D

Well it sounds like, looney crazy nutty neighbors too me
and they don't have a life in their own hands.

 :lecture.gif
I think we should send some quads up here at suwwannee county court house
right outside across from street at sport shop
and have them walk streets with picking signs and
do rally protest right near court house.
This right in downtown, live oak and they are cars,trucks,vans,drive by there every single day from mon-fri during before noon hour.I think they should do a protest once every couple months in that area.
(My best bet do a rally up, protest  everytime when next court meeting date
hits around corner during every month!!)


Well Thanks,
For keep us up to date on here through out this topic here.

I'll keep topic, bump once every 2 or 4days on here if goes off topic page.

Thanks,
amhighlander  8)

I record a New Voice Message!!!
Please click here,
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It's only 1mb wma file 7mins audio.

Thanks, :)
 

Heres another letter to the editor that popped up in todays paper.



Dear Editor,

My name is Charles Bartley and I am a property owner and taxpayer in Suwannee County. I would like to speak about the zoning and permit procedures that are creating a burden on the taxpayers.

At this time I will not discuss the many infractions in the zoning codes. Nor will I discuss the lack of direction for acceptable growth in Suwannee County.

This is the time to address responsiblity. There appears to be a belief by some of you that once a zoning board has a made a decision, you as elected county commissioners, cannot change that decision. If that is correct, it would indicate you have created an entity that you cannot control.

You, the county commissioners are part of a body, have appointed these five members of the zoning/adjustment board to make decisions that are in the bext interest of Suwannee County as a whole.

You, the elected county commissioners are responsible for their decisions. If your appointed represenatives err in their decision, it is your responsibility to correct this error. The voting citizens of Suwannee County did not elect the zoning board members. The voting citizens of Suwannee county did elect you. This chain of responsiblity cannot be broke by saying "We just cannot do anything about it." I believe you can do something about it. Obviously, I feel you should do something about it.

The downside of not correcting this error in judgement in its early stages is that it leads to unhappy citizens county-wide, not just one district. The expensive of the proceedings of the courtts will be borne by the taxpayers. The citizens will not be happy to pay for these lawsuits. It will be embarrassing and difficult to explain by politicians.

To use the racetrack as an example, if the board of county commissioners fail in their duty to the citizens and zoning permit stands; if the courts fail in their representation of the democratic mass, then a new set of difficult questions rise.

Who will pay for the infrastructure that is growing in other counties because of this type of commercial racetrack. Additiona law enforecement, additional road maintence, additional medical support in the form of personnel, ambulances, hospital facilities, and air lifts to trauma centers. All these and more will be required. If the county is pro-active then the taxpayers must pay. Where will this money come from? The property values for miles around will be diminished by the noise and presence so th that the millage rate will have to be increased just to stay at the current revenue flow. We can expect higher taxes. If the cost of this required infrastructure is added to this, we can expect a much higher tax increase. The voting public and taxpayers will not be happy. If the county is not pro-active, then the citizens will pay in the form of diminished services. An example would be waiting in line at the hospital because there has been yet another tragic accident at the race track. The voting citizens will be beyond unhappy, they will be mad.

As a final thought on this issue, a racetrack of this nature has a reputation of killing and maiming children and adults. To enable this commercial endeavor can never be judged as noble.

Charles Barlety.




Here is a list of Suwannee County Commissioners:


  Jesse Caruthers, Jr.                               Douglas M. Udell
District 1                                         District 2
Phone: (386) 362-5385                      Phone: (386) 362-4189
 

Ivie Fowler                                             Billy C. Maxwell
District 3                                         District 4
Phone: (386) 658-1602                       Phone: (386) 963-5460
 

                                            Randy Hatch
                                   District 5
                                   Phone: (386) 935-2819



Anyone that is of voting age and is a Suwannee County resident I would encourage you to find out which district you live in if you dont already know. And then place a call to your county commissioner just to assure them that the entire county is not on the edge of a massive revolt as Mr. Bartley would have you believe by his letter. I'll keep everyone updated as I learn more.

The live oak shands hospital needs be upgrade anyway doesn't have enough supporting people there.

But,thanks for updating on here about editor letters on here you post on here today.  :)

I will love,  :-\  :)
see this ohv park come into live oak in few months from now.

Randy Hatch Is nice dude, and my parents have met him here in mcalpin
back in year 2000 at my house to try vote for him in suwwnnee county.
We ask him put somting for teens and kids to have entertainment for there
selfs to do in live oak area.Well the only enterainment for teens around here
to go lake city on friday nights or hanging around at oaks square parking lot over
by kens bqq in live oak on sat nights with pickup trucks.The only thing they have in this  town chirstain center and bowling ally to have place to do thats there redneck weekend enterainment.LOL thats pretty sad  >:( 

(Thats plain truth about this town!!!)  ;)

If you see what i'm saying then you'll understand...

Those tracks allways maiming people.  I bet he belives guns kill people to & not the people using them.  The letter was kinda funny, that guy is a jackass.  Well I guess you better stop your track befor it maimes people & every one is your area has to wait in line at the ER.  lol  I wish you the best.   

They do, have alot quack azzes up here.
Thats, true about that. (Sounds like new yorker jewish jackazz nuts in brain up in boonies.)

But, I do agree  :ThumbsUp.gif with you
the guy sounds like jackazz quack to me.

What does a Jew have to do with this.  Don't make your self look dumb.

Half area up in live oak they do have alot  nice rednecks up here so
 some of outsiders moved up here from south fla, and some of them come from ny and thats when you get your jewish azzholes that don't like atvs or mud blogging trucks up in this area.But, alot theses rednecks love atvs and dune buggys and big mud blog trucks up here in live oak. :)

Well some of letters don't make any sense what they are saying
up here and making a hassle out of it.It's going happen anyway no
matter what or not, if they are puting in atv/dirt bike race track into live oak area. :) I know things will work out from time to time.

Time only can tell by that point if that happens!!!

OH OK  It must be the Jews. :oo Whatever that is one of the dumbest things I have read in awhile.

I just, refix  both of my last posts on here.

Thanks, for now you can understand me very well..  :)

I'll keep this bump untill we get anying new updates on here. 8)

All area Sarasota in have redneck none.  Need redneck movve more down here.  Too snooty ppl are sometimes down here.  Wish more earthy down to ppl lived here.

People her looks lot down on peoples like myself with trucks.  Too many mercredies cars and other little things.  Want to ride over their judging car little people.

Somes of us locals riders would like to ride closer to home but snooty tree huggers won'ts lets us have any of the local parks or land areas to where which we could ride.  It's hopefully more rednecks who's have ATV's and buggies will more move here too.  Then that way maybe we could get us some more ATV people who would help to get rides areas closer to home for us.

I can feel your pain.

I can understand your point about that!!
I know rednecks!! need place to ride out here in middle nowhere land here,
i get point,what your saying about that. ;)

Ill tell you if we all had the dedication that americanhighlander does we could probably ride all over this state. Its hard to read your posts sometimes man but thanks for the time you put in.

Agreed.

people that dont want us riding should be shot >:(
if they dont let you ride there or build the track go get a harley with straight pipes and ride it all night long in front of their houses!!

agreeded

Yep, I have to say that he is sometimes the only one that responds to his threads but he knows we read them anyways so he is not typing for nothing. LOL

Hey, i try keep this topic bump up becuase
i like see what happen to dirtbike/atv race track in live oak if they had improve or not,
and i haven't heard any news about  it so far in suwwnnee demcrat newpaper for last 2months so far.
Well as long i keep this topic bump up i might find out what happen!!!

Well i do like keep it bump up the very important topics i like,i like
bump it up once week or once every or 3 or 4days.
I only bump up topics if they are really serious atv iuess i like.But, i don't rarely bump up topics very
much on here in past.So i love helping people out on here for their support on here!!!

Thanks,
amhighlander  8)

Hey,my name is Lee Hinson and I've lived in live oak all my 32 years I'am a die hard atv'er me and my girlfriend have 6 atv's we want this track if we can help in any way possible please let me know I'am ready to protest in front of the court house on my YFZ450 or Banshee whatever it takes!

I just wanted to give a small update and let everyone know what we know so far. From what I understand, sometime in July the lawsuit a neighbor filed against the county will be read by a district court Judge and he will decide whether her claims warrant more investigation or it should be thrown out. Sadly there is still nothing more we can do except for sit and wait. If I find anything else out I'll be sure to post here and let everyone know. Thank you for the continuing support, Its appreciated!

Hey, ATC Honda

Lets us know what happens to the atv/dirtbike track in live Oak  if it passes or not.

Keep us, updated ATC Honda.. 

I hope we find out what happens next month by July if the track passes in live Oak.



Thanks,
amhighlander

Ps:I'll keep this topic bump as long possible until we find out if it passes or not.

it looks like those sghns were put together by a bunch of bible thumpers . good luck cause the next thing you know they will have the church after you. and you will be damned for all eternity. so keep up the fight and hopefully you will conquer the beastly neighbors.

Ok guys here is what I've learned.

The day the Judge was suppose to be looking over the papers was moved to the 31st of this month. And from what I've been told, that will pretty much just be the beginning of things. It looks like this will be dragged out for months (possibly years). We will have to make the decision whether to wait or to go ahead and take our chances and do it without knowing for sure. I'll keep everyone posted.

Sorry for the late update...

The juge reviewed the lawsuit and did not throw it out, so there will be a trial date set some time within the next coming months. Thats all I have to add at this time, sorry guys.

Thanks, :) for update Atchonda keep us update to date to see what happens
in next few months..

Thanks,
Americanhighlander  8)

I hope this track goes through. I visit my parents near Ft White often and would definitely bring my Predator or KX125 over there to support the track.

Yeah, you need atv track in ft white very badly in your (area) i can' understand
about that the only best place you eat at in ft white for all riders in that area,
is at hungry howie's pizza at bb gas station on us27 in ft white city limits,
There' is cool mud bogger works there that rides trucks,jeeps in ft white area
that was like during winter time i talk to this person there while back.  8)

I'll agree  :ThumbsUp.gif with you what you're saying to come ride that track,I don't know how long it  will be approved
i hope they get it done asap during this year or next year. :dunno.gif

 >:( The waiting game is hardest part to wait on but,We need start planing protesting rally next year during spring 2007 if they keep it too long holding on issues   too long, so,have your battle plans ready for a peace protest rally  :lecture.gif :drive.gif next year outside near courthouse near live oak.. So if wanna start rallying up all riders in your area that'll be but you have do it for yourself to make things right.

Thanks,
American Highlander    8)
Ps:Stay cool out there, Do the Right thing in life whats right from wrong Don't give up your own reasons just keep on Fighting don't give up on it!!  :)

Again??

I'll keep this bump up to refresh page when gets off topic page here,
I know there's person keeping us updated what happens to that track in live oak,
and i haven't heard anything about yet.  So this why i had to keep this refresh on topic to keep it open up out there to see what happen with track if they threw out court of live oak or not.

I'm just looking to see any new updates on this track what happen to it?

I would love see this track coming into live oak becuase this will open up alot great things here in live oak and lake city area here for all riders out there.

I appreciate your trying to keep this topic up towards the top but its not really necessary...I don't have any more info (wish I did). If/when I do get anything I'll be sure to post it here. Thanks for the support.

Bro chill he said he will update it when he has more info to give....let it die.

LMAO

Thanks, Just let us know what happens  but i'll keep this topic in my email alerts for now.

We're scheduled to have a test ride dated for August 19th. This is subject to change but is what we're shooting for right now. It will be a small group of handpicked riders for this. To apply checkout the site, http://www.ampxtreme.com

Looking forward to riding there. aswell as the system Paul S is putting in.