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Title: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: UncleRico on January 16, 2006, 08:29:51 PM
This is from another thread regarding the potential rise in price at Croom...


I contend that they should do a better job of manicuring croom and flatten out some of the areas, however the argument I keep hearing is that they don't groom it to keep speeds down. (as if to suggest that's safer)


However, I feel that it's safer to have a groomed trail with one way directional travel rather than whooped out, unmanicured, free for all riding.

I think it would be really inexpensive to run a grader down the outside boundary near the back fence, and make a loop around the perimeter which would be all one way.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

I just don't buy that the whooped out trails are safer than manicured trails.




Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: otto on January 16, 2006, 08:48:40 PM
I agree. I think they should make all of the major trails one-way and grade them regularly. I was there on Sunday and had two near misses with other riders. Opening more riding areas would ease the crowding and reduce the frequency of collisions but I am preaching to the choir.


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: KD 428 on January 16, 2006, 08:54:24 PM
sounds like a good idea to me
 ;)


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: FloridaATVs-com on January 16, 2006, 11:21:31 PM
no way you could enforce it..... who is going to stop you from going the wrong way? a traffic cop out there? i don't think so....

if they just leveled the main paths, that would help alot... if they set specific areas for experience levels, that would be even better....


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on January 16, 2006, 11:42:38 PM
I think it would be a good idea if they flattenned out alot of the area's. Groomed or flattenned, the level of danger will always be the same. Also, why they have the area in the back closed off to riders is stupid.They know more and more people are riding there...open up some space!!!


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: jocolo on January 19, 2006, 12:09:12 AM
Well they were keeping track of how many people where there this sunday 500+ atv and bikes by the time I rolled in my UHAUL  ;D ;D trailer around 12 noon, if they flatened the trails they will just get whooped out again in a short time because the type of terrain,


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: Dr.Dirt on January 19, 2006, 12:45:19 AM
no way you could enforce it..... who is going to stop you from going the wrong way? a traffic cop out there? i don't think so....

if they just leveled the main paths, that would help alot... if they set specific areas for experience levels, that would be even better....

I gotta disagree, I think that if there were one way paths most people would stay going that one way and most people would not be stupid enough to go head on towards the majority of people going the oppisite way. You would have to be really stupid to openly challange a vehicle heading at you from the other direction. I am sure that someone would do it, but not the many people would, common sense will prevail here.  I think the postives of one way trails out-weigh the negitives by a longshot.


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: qt314nfla on January 19, 2006, 12:51:54 AM
I gotta disagree, I think that if there were one way paths most people would stay going that one way and most people would not be stupid enough to go head on towards the majority of people going the oppisite way. You would have to be really stupid to openly challange a vehicle heading at you from the other direction. I am sure that someone would do it, but not the many people would, common sense will prevail here.  I think the postives of one way trails out-weigh the negitives by a longshot.

Very well put and well written.  Most states that have one way trails have prevailed and they are followed.


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: apkkfx400 on January 19, 2006, 08:27:40 AM
I gotta disagree, I think that if there were one way paths most people would stay going that one way and most people would not be stupid enough to go head on towards the majority of people going the oppisite way. You would have to be really stupid to openly challange a vehicle heading at you from the other direction. I am sure that someone would do it, but not the many people would, common sense will prevail here.  I think the postives of one way trails out-weigh the negitives by a longshot.

Very well put and well written.  Most states that have one way trails have prevailed and they are followed.

I have to agree with QT and Dr.-No trail officials would need to enforce common sense.  Don't think a one-way trail system will be happening at Croom anytime soon, but if it does I would be willing to pay more to ride there.  Until then, I'll be at Ocala, Hardrock and hopefully checking out Sandmountain real soon!!

Mark


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: MuddFreak77 on January 19, 2006, 12:54:31 PM
As far as trail Officials/Masters they would have to be us the riders.  If we show that we are responsible, we might stop getting all of this bad press.  At least once a week I read the paper and they are saying something negative about ATV riders.

Just my .01 worth cause giving .02 would leave me broke   ;D

Freakk


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: wheelie_boy on January 19, 2006, 03:17:53 PM
I gotta disagree, I think that if there were one way paths most people would stay going that one way and most people would not be stupid enough to go head on towards the majority of people going the oppisite way. You would have to be really stupid to openly challange a vehicle heading at you from the other direction. I am sure that someone would do it, but not the many people would, common sense will prevail here.  I think the postives of one way trails out-weigh the negitives by a longshot.

Very well put and well written.  Most states that have one way trails have prevailed and they are followed.

I have to agree with QT and Dr.-No trail officials would need to enforce common sense.  Don't think a one-way trail system will be happening at Croom anytime soon, but if it does I would be willing to pay more to ride there.  Until then, I'll be at Ocala, Hardrock and hopefully checking out Sandmountain real soon!!

Mark

i totally agree and it works just fine a durhamtown plantation. 


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: DZ 350 on January 19, 2006, 03:40:19 PM
forget about it leave croom natrual and just ride and think of the woops like challenges or obsticles. ;)


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: Eworm on January 19, 2006, 04:25:10 PM
I gotta disagree, I think that if there were one way paths most people would stay going that one way and most people would not be stupid enough to go head on towards the majority of people going the oppisite way. You would have to be really stupid to openly challange a vehicle heading at you from the other direction. I am sure that someone would do it, but not the many people would, common sense will prevail here.  I think the postives of one way trails out-weigh the negitives by a longshot.

Very well put and well written.  Most states that have one way trails have prevailed and they are followed.

I have to agree with QT and Dr.-No trail officials would need to enforce common sense.  Don't think a one-way trail system will be happening at Croom anytime soon, but if it does I would be willing to pay more to ride there.  Until then, I'll be at Ocala, Hardrock and hopefully checking out Sandmountain real soon!!

Mark

i totally agree and it works just fine a durhamtown plantation. 

Yep same here. Just follow the arrows if you dont wanna get slammed, pretty simple in my book. Leave them or take them out, I don't really care.


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: 2006YFZ450 on January 19, 2006, 05:28:16 PM
It's a good idea but would you think they care(Croom)?? Really??


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: LostSurf on January 20, 2006, 04:25:14 AM
New to this site. I live in Baltimore Maryland. I went to croom 2 weeks ago i had the time of my life. Id take the whoops and sand over mud and big rocks (east coast) any day.

P.S i diddnt notice the whoops hovering over them in 4th gear on my rappy 8)



Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: flbansheeboy on January 20, 2006, 01:44:43 PM
why have groomed trails at croom, if want  smooth trails, get a golf cart and go to the golf course and ride on flat ground.


Title: Re: Groomed Croom vs. Ungroomed Croom
Post by: Dr.Dirt on January 20, 2006, 02:47:35 PM
why have groomed trails at croom, if want  smooth trails, get a golf cart and go to the golf course and ride on flat ground.

No.