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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2005, 12:30:20 PM »

"this accident is a direct result of bad parenting"-Gamer
How dare you judge the parenting skills or lack there of...you don't know what measures these parents took to try and stop their child from inproper ATV use.  Hell for all we know the parents could have taken away the key and the kid stole it from them so he could go on a quick joy ride with his friends, as a teenager myself I don't always mind what I'm told. I've had to face the consequences for my actions but ya know what if it's something I want or love to do nothing in the world will stop me. These teens had recieved previous warnings not to ride on the rode, they knew better!!  Yes, the parents seemingly could have done more but that's not for anybody here to say. Hopefully now these teens will understand the laws concerning ATVs and use better judgement of their own the next time they decide to ride!!! 
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2005, 12:48:58 PM »

when i was 16 i knew right from wrong and new what the conseqeunces would be for my actions....
 this kid was stoped 2 times before for riding on the street.
 I think they should have a tattoe on there forehead saying this is what happens when you ride illegaly on the road then every time he looks in a mirror he can see how stupid he is......
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2005, 01:07:42 PM »

"this accident is a direct result of bad parenting"-Gamer
How dare you judge the parenting skills or lack there of...you don't know what measures these parents took to try and stop their child from inproper ATV use.  Hell for all we know the parents could have taken away the key and the kid stole it from them so he could go on a quick joy ride with his friends, as a teenager myself I don't always mind what I'm told. I've had to face the consequences for my actions but ya know what if it's something I want or love to do nothing in the world will stop me. These teens had recieved previous warnings not to ride on the rode, they knew better!!  Yes, the parents seemingly could have done more but that's not for anybody here to say. Hopefully now these teens will understand the laws concerning ATVs and use better judgement of their own the next time they decide to ride!!! 

how dare i- cause i am a parent. and parenting doesnt start when the kid turns 15 or 16. parenting starts before the baby is even born. parents that arent there for their kids or let them wonder off not knowing where they are and then suddenly think they can control their kids. yeah right.  apparently they didnt take appropriate measures to stop this from happening.

oh and one more thing- how dare i- cause i can.
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2005, 01:55:10 PM »

opps sorry gamer that wasn't your quote...
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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2005, 01:57:00 PM »

Once again im on your side Gery. this is deffinately a result of bad parenting. I know if i did somethin wrong once, especially if it involved the cops, i wouldnt dare think of doin it again.  My parents would tear my butt up Smash
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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2005, 04:30:44 PM »

I disagree with Gamer about placing blame on the county. Owning an ATV is no different than owning a boat. It's a recreational vehicle. Put it on a trailer and take it somewhere you can legally and safely ride. PBC is overgrown and overpopulated. All the property is owned by someone and no one wants to accept the liability to allow off road vehicles on it. Thats the bottom line. The county will not provide land for off-roading due to liability. It's always been illegal to ride ATVs on the streets. Thats a state law, so if someone moved to the Loxahatchee area thinking it wasn't part of the state of Florida, they are just plain ignorant. To directly blame West Palm Beach for the actions of an irresponsible teenager is equally ignorant.
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2005, 05:00:03 PM »

I disagree with Gamer about placing blame on the county. Owning an ATV is no different than owning a boat. It's a recreational vehicle. Put it on a trailer and take it somewhere you can legally and safely ride. PBC is overgrown and overpopulated. All the property is owned by someone and no one wants to accept the liability to allow off road vehicles on it. Thats the bottom line. The county will not provide land for off-roading due to liability. It's always been illegal to ride ATVs on the streets. Thats a state law, so if someone moved to the Loxahatchee area thinking it wasn't part of the state of Florida, they are just plain ignorant. To directly blame West Palm Beach for the actions of an irresponsible teenager is equally ignorant.


You don't have to trailer a boat in South Florida.  There are plenty of places to use your boat down here in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach county and can even be kept at a Marina.  That was not a good example.  As far as liability goes that's the whole reason the county and the state should be all over providing a place for us to ride so the liability is not on the private property owners.  The State has laws protecting itself from Liability at there ATV Parks.  The same can be done for countys and citys.  West Palm has several WMA (Wild Life Management Areas) where off roading could be done safely and responsibly however there banned.  I can't believe you guys would even argue about this.  We need more places to ride and this is the reason.
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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2005, 05:28:38 PM »

gamer, i as a rider understand your frustration. the bottom line is the county officials dont care. put yourself in their shoes. if they would agree to an atv project it would mean more work for them(development/liability/admin., etc.) and since we are the minority they'd rather ignore us then get off their lazy @sses and do something. all i ever see them doing is sitting in those stupid meetings saying ya's and na's.
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2005, 05:33:54 PM »

To directly blame West Palm Beach for the actions of an irresponsible teenager is equally ignorant.


You are correct.  I typed the wrong word.  I did not mean to put direct blame on the state or county.  What I should have typed was that you can partly blame the county and state for not providing an area in South Florida which is the most populated place in the state.  There are more areas to ride in the central and north part of the state where there are less people.  The next ATV Park needs to be down here.
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2005, 07:18:30 PM »

I live in loxahatchee, about 2 miles from where the crash took place. I used the boat example, because most of the yards I see out here have boats in them. They are all on trailers and need to be towed someplace to be used. ATVs are no different. There is no where to ride out here except on the roads, canal banks and posted private property. These options are unsafe and illegal. Unless the state/county is willing to bulldoze about 200 homes, equal to about 350 acres, there is nowhere here to build an ATV park. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of knocking down about 200 homes so I can have a place to ride. I've done the road, canalbank, and property thing. That got me two tickets and arrested in a natural preserve. Ironically, it was PBSO4 who arrested me and towed my quad. I'm as frustrated as everyone else....I just faced facts and decided not to be part of the problem. When my ATV is on a street, it's on a trailer.
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