I say it is time to Protest.

[themensh]

   before I could see a 'club' purchasing land for riding.......
I would more imagine a company or business doing it.
  They could go into a small town in central Florida (where ever)
buy a bunch of land...set up a parts/repair shop/etc.......
before you know it, an industry could spring up? Rides on a trail
from one town to another......places to eat could pop up along
the trail?  HEY! It  COULD happen (search on hatfield-mcoy trail)!!!!
   LOL
   Takes BUCKS though........

             Chuck

[americanhighlander]

  They do need more  used atv sale places up here.

I can understand I they are no atv clubs
in our area up in lake city.But the nearest one
is about 65miles away thats over in gainesville.

I know they should open more private own atv parks
all over northern florida and even in northwest florida.
I have seen places on tv people do that.I understand
people have the right to ride their atvs somewhere
around here.


Well try some my tips and ideas i posted on here in this topic
so far.And for all members out there keep topic open up
to other new riders and new members that join in this site
out there.I hope alot riding areas
in the near future will never shut down.At least follow the rules right.

So keep posting on here.
I hope you people do the  protest thing sometime this year
or later down road if they are trying wipe out our sport
off the face earth and thats when you want start doing alot
posting on here.lol


thanks,
amhighlander

Ps:Let your freedom ride hard and keep on riding 

[themensh]

this site has over 4200 members.  Lets say a quarter of them read the sire weekly.
     That would be a thousand folks.    Lets say only 1/2 read this topic  (500!!! YES! that is correct!)
  Less than 50 respond.
   One of the areas I ride locally near my house is going to become a doctors complex.  It will block access to the other area I ride.......
   Hope you all are doing better.

      Chuck 'roast
   

[americanhighlander]

this site has over 4200 members.  Lets say a quarter of them read the sire weekly.
     That would be a thousand folks.    Lets say only 1/2 read this topic  (500!!! YES! that is correct!)
  Less than 50 respond.
   One of the areas I ride locally near my house is going to become a doctors complex.  It will block access to the other area I ride.......
   Hope you all are doing better.

      Chuck 'roast
   

I hope alot riding areas are get expanding in the near future.I hope
alot people are reading this topic and learning something from it.
I hope alot  people trying doing their protest to support their atv sport
and keeping our riding areas alive out there through out of state florida
and keeping our riding rights alive out there.

I hope alot good atv shops be bulit through out lake city and whole
north florida areas and even over near northwest florida.I would
love see alot good atv backyard tracks out there and even more atv and
offroad clubs would help alot out  here.I know they are not much  offroad riding clubs out where i live at.

[themensh]

as of right now, when I read this.....
this topic has been read 5248 times.
   I fail to see the need to keep bumping it.  If out of 5248 reads, this topic is not kept at the top of the list....nobody cares for the most part.
   Sad as it may be.
  We wonder why land is taken away.
             

           Chuck 'roast

[Eworm]

If we put pressure on these people they will have to do something. If we gather a big group and trailer our bikes to areas that are suppose to be open and are not (bad luck) and drive on in with potentially 50 trucks and over 100 bikes, I serioulsy think they can't stop us. At least we can get a news crew out there and start to stir things up. Especially if people are coming on the back side of the squares at the same time. We try the nice way (sending letters and what have you) now we demand it and we can only resort to brute force. I wish this could work but I doubt it.

What do you guys think?

[themensh]

 "We try the nice way (sending letters and what have you) now we demand it and we can only resort to brute force. "

   Hard to tell if anyone actually has "tried the nice way". 
  Me? I have sent an received e-mail back. Most of it sounds positive......
sometimes appologetic.
    The thing I see with getting a bunch of quads and riding into tallahassee is once the cameras is on a few people...you will see "Duh! We want land and stuff."    Then the next camera  will show some guy popping a wheelie in the street......then some guy flashing some unknown hand sign.....
and as the camera cuts out, somebody runs past the camera screaming
"POLARIS rules!!!!!"
  It would be pittiful.

[1FasterBlaster]

I don't think it would be that bad. Even some kind of air time as to why we're protesting would at least let it be known that some of us do care about riding. We just need to initiat it and let everyone on here know when we're gonna do it. I for one will tell everyone I ride with to go.

[Eworm]

"We try the nice way (sending letters and what have you) now we demand it and we can only resort to brute force. "

   Hard to tell if anyone actually has "tried the nice way". 
  Me? I have sent an received e-mail back. Most of it sounds positive......
sometimes appologetic.
    The thing I see with getting a bunch of quads and riding into tallahassee is once the cameras is on a few people...you will see "Duh! We want land and stuff."    Then the next camera  will show some guy popping a wheelie in the street......then some guy flashing some unknown hand sign.....
and as the camera cuts out, somebody runs past the camera screaming
"POLARIS rules!!!!!"
  It would be pittiful.

Dude, that is funny chit right there, LOL. You have a point but I doubt it will that bad. And if we organize it, we can have speakers (DRETH and MYSELF and OTHERS) and make sure noone does anything stupid. There are ways, we just need to find them!!!

[themensh]

"And if we organize it, we can have speakers (DRETH and MYSELF and OTHERS) and make sure noone does anything stupid."

OK , but it better be  "invitation only".   LOL


  I need to be home so I can watch the "NEWS".

   Chuck 'roast

[americanhighlander]

I know they have a flea market there in tallahadsee over by woodyville area.
Well that will be good parking spot to let people see you to protest.

And I know if loaded alot of quads on pickup trucks and long beds
and make riding flat wooden trailer  patform on wheels and have alot signs
on it. And find a place where you can meet at.The best bet go to captial stop on side of the road and have it jammed with pickup trucks with atvs in them and other trailers with atvs on them and somebody sit on atv with picking signs on the atv.Then you will have media news out there.
At least we need to  soming about it to get our word out there to other
 atv riders and clubs that live in florida and to get more nat forests open up more new trails in the near future and lessing alot harsh rules on riding atvs on unpaved  dirt roads.


Well I think more great ideas are good on here on this topic.

But i will keep passing out more flyers next week.

Thanks,
amhighlander 

[themensh]

I still say, unless you let people know ahead of time what you want......
and then all of a sudden you show up at a 'flea market' with 50 un-organized quads, you are just going to cause a 'scene'.
     Who ever you wanted to actually pay attention to you, will say
"We didn't know anything about the protest. If they would have called us we could have helped."
  You will have the 'wheelie popping" bunch at the flea market........making noise, reving the engines (same type of people that get bad press at bike week here in Daytona).
   Before anyone protests.....you have to ghave a goal. Before you have a goal, you have to have a plan to get to the goal.
  This site has no goal.......and no plan. 
  There will just be 50 quads...at a flea market.......on the news.   
   And it may not turn out the way you want to.
   Just my opinion.......but I think it is realistic.


                      Chuck

[americanhighlander]

Well we need get other atv riders out there and
have a plan to go to captial in tallahadsee.My best bet is have
a plan a date time and where.But We  need get our word out
before this sport will be gone forever and another thing talk with
big pro riders out there or talk to your atv clubs about it and to atv dealers.

I know fea market is not good idea.My best bet if have a friend that live near  by tallahasee that knows where parked all trucks and quads at nearby
a meeting waypoint somewhere outside of city limts
a place somewhere out in country or somewhere inside city
at parking alot such as walmarts off I10 old exit27 on tenn st
over by westmarine store Or try another place or somewhere.
Then have your driving protest to captail and parked
for several hours and make sure your quads is on trailers or trucks.
Or if that idea don't work then go to captial hill in  washington D.C
and parked all
over in that area and have it say:florida atv protest for riding
rights and keeping our nat forests trails opened.  

Anying good suggests you have on here..

thanks,
amhighlander 

[americanhighlander]

  one more thing we need get our butts
off to do soming about it and have a plan
to do it. And we don't want to lose our
sport and keep riding trails alive out there
in years to come.

[americanhighlander]

Well If anybody is still doing protest?
What date? Are still doing it in 2006?


I know alot ideas are great on here.The rest areas on I10
are good meeting waypoints to meet at or at parking lot in city is good idea.
 

Feel freely to post more good ideas to plan on protest
to captial in tallahadsee.

[DjLeOo]

Im down with whatever we decide !!!!

But we have to stop talking BS and do something !!!

I have a couple hook ups in the Media feild....

I can get WSVN & Univision on any location when we are ready
thats both English and Spanish stations !!
Also have hook ups for Radio Station as i used to work in one!! My brother is the head producer for Salsa 98.3 in Miami Also got hook ups in
El ZOl 95.7
Dj Laz Power 96.5

I know theres many ATV Sites... we may have different point of views but at the End we are all Still ONE !!!

Lets pick a date and get everyone on the same page !!! And do a peaceful protest !!!!

You can reach me at AtvMiaXtreme@gmail.com

Thanks
Leo

[DZ 350]

hey i am ready to sign up and get riding spots back!!!!!

[americanhighlander]

Im down with whatever we decide !!!!

But we have to stop talking BS and do something !!!

I have a couple hook ups in the Media feild....

I can get WSVN & Univision on any location when we are ready
thats both English and Spanish stations !!
Also have hook ups for Radio Station as i used to work in one!! My brother is the head producer for Salsa 98.3 in Miami Also got hook ups in
El ZOl 95.7
Dj Laz Power 96.5

I know theres many ATV Sites... we may have different point of views but at the End we are all Still ONE !!!

Lets pick a date and get everyone on the same page !!! And do a peaceful protest !!!!

You can reach me at AtvMiaXtreme@gmail.com

Thanks
Leo

I know who is WSVN channel 7 It's very good news reporter station i saw while back 1998 when i was living down in hollywood, i know ehco deco drive is good show i haven't seen it in long time.Go with wfor station thats one best weather man down there in miami brian norcross he is the best tracker for hurricianes and they have good news reporters down there.I  wish brian norcross was on the weather channel to save more peoples lives during hurricaine seasons.


Well I agree with you DjLeOo
about getting our butts off and do somting  about it.
If anybody wants give us anymore ideas of the protest to tallahadsee
to captial I hope you get on the roads soon out there in 2006 to do somting to save our sport in florida to get our rights to ride back again.

I know other states like alabama they can ride the atvs everywhere and they can't ride in the cityies and they don't have offroad laws in alabama i went pull up the search engine  about 4months ago.I wish we had laws like alabama to ride all right of ways in the state and even public dirt roads in the middle nowhere
where cops don't mess with you only if somebody was hurt.I know riding on people's land is wrong way to do.I know that...



thanks,
amhighlander  

[yamagator]

We should learn from a recent protest that the boaters of the state of florida have been pretty successful with. They organized with the help of Florida Sportsman magazine. This gave the boaters a forum and a regular source of information. It also gave them a spokesperson, Karl Wickstrom,editor and publisher of the magazine. The boaters were fighting the Save the Manatee Club and its purposed closing of large areas of state waters to boating activities. The SMC was spreading proproganda that the manatee deaths were primarly caused by boaters and that their numbers were at dangerously low numbers. The boaters movement was able over time to prove these allegations false. The boaters were supported by every industry affected by such widespread closures. We need to address the complaints that the Sierra Club, Friends of the Forest etc. have been trying to blame on OHV usage. We recently won a small victory when the U.S. Wildlife Service refused to declare the Scrub Jay endangered speicies status. This takes some of their ammunition away. These groups will try to use any tactic they can to discredit OHV users,trash,destroying habitat,injuries to users etc. They are not above falsifying numbers in their favor. Also we need to pick our battle, the ONF is a federal level protest and would probably best be fought by e-mailing congressmen and the federal offices pertaining to the ONF. Attending meetings that these agencies may have pertaining to OHV usage is a MUST. Continued polite pressure on state agencies through e-mail,phone calls,letterwriting etc. is a effective way to get our point across. Also these state agencies will have meetings that must be attended by as many people as possible. The groups that are against us will be there and we need to outnumber them. If we do our homework and get the schedules of these meetings, we can organize groups to attend these meetings. Another effective tool are petitions signed by registered voters. We need to find a champion for our cause and create a mission statement so to speak for our cause. Sorry for being longwinded, but I needed to put my two cents in while it was fresh in head.

[americanhighlander]

We should learn from a recent protest that the boaters of the state of florida have been pretty successful with. They organized with the help of Florida Sportsman magazine. This gave the boaters a forum and a regular source of information. It also gave them a spokesperson, Karl Wickstrom,editor and publisher of the magazine. The boaters were fighting the Save the Manatee Club and its purposed closing of large areas of state waters to boating activities. The SMC was spreading proproganda that the manatee deaths were primarly caused by boaters and that their numbers were at dangerously low numbers. The boaters movement was able over time to prove these allegations false. The boaters were supported by every industry affected by such widespread closures. We need to address the complaints that the Sierra Club, Friends of the Forest etc. have been trying to blame on OHV usage. We recently won a small victory when the U.S. Wildlife Service refused to declare the Scrub Jay endangered speicies status. This takes some of their ammunition away. These groups will try to use any tactic they can to discredit OHV users,trash,destroying habitat,injuries to users etc. They are not above falsifying numbers in their favor. Also we need to pick our battle, the ONF is a federal level protest and would probably best be fought by e-mailing congressmen and the federal offices pertaining to the ONF. Attending meetings that these agencies may have pertaining to OHV usage is a MUST. Continued polite pressure on state agencies through e-mail,phone calls,letterwriting etc. is a effective way to get our point across. Also these state agencies will have meetings that must be attended by as many people as possible. The groups that are against us will be there and we need to outnumber them. If we do our homework and get the schedules of these meetings, we can organize groups to attend these meetings. Another effective tool are petitions signed by registered voters. We need to find a champion for our cause and create a mission statement so to speak for our cause. Sorry for being longwinded, but I needed to put my two cents in while it was fresh in head.

Your right about that...

  I know those qucks love to try use us as
play toys and use us and try to making lies to blame into our
sport.I know they like use every detail to make us look bad
on tv and in the media and one day people will understand us we
are good riders to them.

[americanhighlander]

I hope you people out there  rasing some money to
buy land make your owned atvflorida.com land where some members
that go riding their atvs and go there every 4months to ride or have one those
big jambr's there.Thats good start to make your own
nat forest and make your own rules there.

And thats one way get people to help you to
get to protest to tallahadsee once every year to do it.
But thats one way to expand yourself..

I saw oln channel on atv magzine tv about two weeks ago
and looked what they do at windtop mt tn
they have their own atv club and they have there own atv riding
park and they used money to expand their own atv trails.
Thats what they do charging to pay in to ride there and
thats where money goes  into maintaining atv riding trails there.

It sounds like great ideal out there.

Another thing we need get bigger acres land
to do that.

[o4250]

I hope you people out there  rasing some money to
buy land make your owned atvflorida.com land where some members
that go riding their atvs and go there every 4months to ride or have one those
big jambr's there.Thats good start to make your own
nat forest and make your own rules there.

And thats one way get people to help you to
get to protest to tallahadsee once every year to do it.
But thats one way to expand yourself..

I saw oln channel on atv magzine tv about two weeks ago
and looked what they do at windtop mt tn
they have their own atv club and they have there own atv riding
park and they used money to expand their own atv trails.
Thats what they do charging to pay in to ride there and
thats where money goes  into maintaining atv riding trails there.

It sounds like great ideal out there.

Another thing we need get bigger acres land
to do that.

k.

[americanhighlander]

Check out newpapers
web sites in our area
and over near tallahassee area.

I hope this helps you out.

(Newpapers web sites in tallahassee)

tallahassee democrat
http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

(Newpapers web sites in north florida areas)

Florida Times-Union
http://www.jacksonville.com/

The Gainesville Sun
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=news

High Springs Herald
http://www.highspringsherald.com/

Ocala Star Banner
http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

Jasper News
http://www.suwanneedemocrat.com/jasper

This covers live oak,branford,mayo areas.
http://www.suwanneedemocrat.com

Lake City Reporter

http://www.lakecityreporter.com/




Thanks,
amhighlander 

[americanhighlander]

 
If wanna send emails on atv protest to channel 6 news station
in tallahassee.So follow my (tip),


here's way you can send feedback emails to
tv station channel six in tallahasee.

Just put your email address and send to:liveatfive@wctv6.com


1: Go to web site.
2: Click on (email this) on top middle bar.

http://www.wctv6.com/station/contact

Thanks,
amhighlander 

[Paul_S]

Bump 

Ok I understand the importance of keeping a topic fresh, but how annoying is it to see a new comment posted on a thread, going to the last page to read this new opinion/comment about that thread and all you get for your trouble is "bump  )