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« on: July 07, 2005, 05:07:43 PM »

And again the cowards have struck. Bombs in London to let them know that if you do not belive the way I want you to I will kill you.

Until the rest of the world stoops to the level of these cowards this will go on and on. there will be no stopping them. We need to go back to the Bible and take an eye for an eye, only 10 times over. If they kill 3000 of ours then we kill 30,000 of theirs. This is the only way that we will ever get their attention.

But no we must be politicaly correct, give the prisoners in GITMO anything and everything that they want, don,t mistreat them to get the information that could prevent what happened today from happening. Our shoulders go to prison for tyring to save the lives of inacunt people like the ones in London today and in the Twin Towers on 9/11.

Can you tell that I for one am fed up with searching the little old lady at airports while the dark skin dark haired ones go right on through because heven help us if we profiloe.

I could go on and on about this but I think that I will stop for now.

thank you one and all for letting me vent.

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2005, 05:36:41 PM »

I don't care if it is truly profiling. Than so be it .If it helps in anyway to secure the american publics safety than I say go ahead and profile.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 05:44:50 PM »

well i have a lot of buddies in the guard (in my old unit) that are being activated next month going over there to guard the prison i have said to them let them out then shoot them all then the cowards will come out of hiding to retaliate then shoot them also it might be inhumain but it will tell them that we are tired of their s--t and we are not gonna take it any more Angry ,ronny
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 06:37:46 PM »

It Tweaks me in a bad way !  Cool
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 07:01:42 PM »

im with yall on this one! i say bring our boys home and drop a big ole bomb and wipe out the whole place! let what ever lives start over knowing that WE DONT PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes i believe in GOD! the way i see it is you get what you give.........TERROR......
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 07:07:30 PM »


    Hey I am for the Big A too , Japan didn't bother us after!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 07:18:44 PM »

land mines and boobytrap mines dont work at 55k feet
let the bombers do there job 24 day 7 day a week



   and since we feed the world  new price on oil

      1 bushel wheat = 1barrel of oil      sounds fair to me?Huh
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 07:32:07 PM »

Indians believed in bad dirt .....The dirt in their country need sterilized . It makes me feel bad for saying it , but when I look at my kids I would be willing to do it one grain of sand at a time . If it is not right to hate a group of people    I am truely sorry , but I dont like them so if any terrorists ever read these words .
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 07:45:22 PM »

OK, I have more venting to do.

I worked in Saudi Arebia for 3 years. I worked as a civelian and lived on the local econmey. These people and I mean the Muslams are the bigest hipacrets that I have ever known. I the shopping aeras they would require that all the women be covered. But if it was a westeren women it was ok to stear at her and grab her in anyway that they could. They would not fly the Sadea Airline as it did not serve alcaol, as sonn as a flight would leave the country and they started serveing drinks they would almost fight over the firast one. If nothing else I learned that the only thing they respect is that you treat them just like they treat all others. When they kill so do you only ten fold.

I am so pi**ed about all of this that I can not hardly type, so please look over my spelling and I will do better .

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2005, 08:12:13 PM »

Unfortunately our borders are so wide open that most of the terrorists that are a threat to this country are already here. If it would all end with a nuke then we probably would have done it already. Im sure the men and women overseas wish it was that easy as well. I wonder how much it is gonna take before the whole world collectively decides that that area is due to be wiped out completely. There is no easy solution but hopefully we are getting closer.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 08:24:52 PM »

How does that saying go? Kill 'em all, and let god sort 'em out? Amen...
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2005, 08:35:11 PM »

When the time comes .   We are protected by our constitution   the second amen  . It will simply be a question of how much will we take .  We have grown numb to tragedy ...but there is a primitive threshold deep within us and one day they will cross the line . As long as I cant see them from my house . Remember the movie Road House ..thins will get worse before they get better .
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2005, 09:42:02 PM »

we need to stop sticking our noses in everyone's business, are politics and greed makes people in other countries hate us and it's only going to get worse. I think the people who voted for bush should get the head examined. Bring our troops home protect our borders and leave those towel heads alone. Leppard can't change his spots just like those people will neverrrrr change. Maybe the people supporting the war should pitch in more on there taxes and pay for the war and send there kids over there too.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2005, 09:43:31 PM »

Happen to disagree w/ what some of you guys are saying. I'm all for killing the terrorists and anyone showing aggession towards our troops. But not all the people in that region are against Americans. It could have easily been one of us born there instead of here in America. Would you have that same opinion of being blown up then?

We were our worst enemy in this whole issue. We left our borders open to any and all that wanted to come here. (Well most anyway) Then we granted them funds and opportunities to "Better themselves" when there are Americans being denied those same grants. Myself, I was sick of seing Habib come over from his land of poverty to open up his store, send for the rest of his family and have them do the same. Yet, it's hard for me as an AMERICAN (born and raised) to get a loan. There are troops that have been deployed whose families are going through financial problems b/c they took major loses in pay. Many that had their own businesses lost.  Many that have gotten wounded or lost limbs and only receive partial benefits.

As far as the bombings and our troops losing their lives Cry. I said a year ago that it was going to get worse b/f it got better and I still don't think we've seen the worse. We need to bring our troops home to their families.
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2005, 09:02:50 AM »

I haven't stuck my nose in anyones business , so leave out the we ! But when the time comes ... It wont be my nose pointing at them . They want trouble , they enjoy seeing people in horror ,  all the effort they put into these bombings needs rewarded . BAD DIRT .

London's mass transit system reopened Friday, though some commuters, admitting they were afraid, opted for a taxi. Normally packed double-decker buses carried just a handful of passengers, and many Underground stations were less congested than normal. But others said they had little choice but to board the subway.

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2005, 09:39:45 AM »

Lets all get a perspective on this. Actually, a reality check.
I'm not making an argument for any side, just interested in seeing what everyone thinks about certain issues, so don't start flaming or chest beating because this post is just to find out everyone's opinion(s).

First - America does (and I mean "we" - you can't call yourself and American then exclude yourself from American acts when it benefits you) stick its nose in everyone elses' business. Most of the time we're asked to do so and welcomed. (ie.- global aid, global police presence, etc.) Other times we are not. (ie. - military bases, our role in NATO in century old conflicts, etc.) There are two sides to this point. Side one is, keep our noses out of everyone's business, bring the troops home, close the borders and the heck with everyone else. Side two is, we live in an absolute global economy; sticking our noses in everyone elses business is good business for the USA and helps maintain our standard of living.

Second- War is great business internally. Always has been and always will be. Fire up the military machine and the economy swells. You have huge $$ going to military contracts, increased pay/spending/saving by military families and those associated with the military in either an official (ie. - member) or unofficially (ie. - contractor). History shows that this increase spending on the government end trickles down to the rest of the nation and leaves us all healthier.  The down side is always the human cost of firing up the military machine. I don't think this needs discussion.

Third- War is great business externally. Granted, we're all paying more at the pump these days. However, do you think for one minute we'd be involved in Iraq if the payoff wasn't better for us in the long run? Having a stable government in place in Iraq will only ensure the furture flow of petroleum to the USA.  It is a great wager to remove Saddam and replace him with (at least) a puppet democracy. If we influence the government, we create a strong foot-hold in the Middle East and a conduit for petroleum in the future. Again, this all comes with a human cost.

Fourth - The United States has one of the most liberal policies on people coming into and out of our country. We always have and probably always will. Again, think of the economic benefit we derive from loose borders. Not so much middle eastern or european visitors, but Sounth American. the majority of the service/physical labor industry segment is now driven by South American and Mexican labor. The good? We all get the benefit of this labor at lowered rates. The bad? these are potential jobs that citizens may miss out on.
Tighten the borders on our European and Middle Eastern visitors and we will feel it in our wallets. Free trade includes the ability to freely move between countries. Cut back on this ability and your imports cut back too. (You think your ATV costs a lot now?) Again, the down side to this current stance is the ease of travel afforded to people who would do us harm. Cost benefit analysis at its most critical.

Finally, we need to think about the mentality of the people who are truly our enemies. These people hate us with every ounce of their being. You cannot reason with them, you cannot trust them, you cannot punish them. If you kill them, they are considered martyrs. They freely give their lives for their "cause" as (in their minds) doing so means an award in heaven. They do not think globally other than on a religious inquisitive level. If you do not believe as they do, you are a zionist and need to either convert or die. It is that simple for them.  Most of them have been at war with one another for centuries. Their religion calls for continued war and erradication (at all cost and sacrifice) of any who do not think as they do.

Again, I'm not arguing for any side nor am I telling anyone which side or opinion I hold. Just a couple of facts to consider. It is sick what happened in London. The people responsible are the lowest form of life devised. Hopefully a way will be found tto prevent htis from happening again.
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2005, 09:50:00 AM »

First off I would like to send out my condolences and say a pray to all those who suffered in London. I have friends and family over there. They are good people, very good people. It could have been much worse.

Secondly I'm so p*ssed at this group of idiots in the White House. I know some of you guys like them, but I'm sick to my stomach at the way these hypocritical greedy b*stards run things. I was mad when it took them so long to get to Afghanistan, but once they started bombing I felt better knowing we were going to stop the terrorist in time. We were on the right track, I felt bad for doubting Bush because the world was becoming a safer place. Then came Iraq Angry  You know if Bush had just stayed the course of wiping out the Al Queda and not trying to get rich from oil at the cost of my friends, my family, our soldiers lives than London would probably not be dealing with this tragedy. These fanatics are resourceful and cunning, but we will prevail if we just stick to it. Chase down the terrorist, not wait for them to come to us. We need to get back on track of hunting down these SOB's so acts of cowardly terrorism are all but extinct.  

I like Blair and I hope he takes this opportunity to get support from the world, to stand strong and not just be Bush's lap-dog. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call for him to do the right thing for his people and not his wallet.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2005, 10:10:37 AM »

Desperate times call for desperate measures . It's in us ..it just has not come  out yet .  If those middle east A    Holes   read their history books , they would shurely see that the the American people have a way of dealing with situations  .

 The Melting Pot is starting to bubble . When it starts...if you dont agree ....please stay inside .But be shure to answer your door if someone knocks , they will need to see your face .
  If the govt fears for the safety of people of middle eastern decent they had better round'em up before the people do .that's not profiling ....it is a safety measure easily brought on by the AMERICAN PEOPLE . Sometimes right or wrong is not the question .
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2005, 06:41:31 PM »

I only have one thing to say... Anyone who truly believes hat we went into Iraq looking to be greedy bastards because of their oil needs their head examined. Saddam was a physco...
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2005, 07:13:38 PM »

I only have one thing to say... Anyone who truly believes hat we went into Iraq looking to be greedy bastards because of their oil needs their head examined. Saddam was a physco...

Saddam was a psycho, like many world leaders I could name, but what made him such a threat? WMD's that cannot be found? I guess he should of had some kind of WMD's since the U.S. had the receipt for them. I'm sure he sold them off after we put sanctions against his country in the 90's. Do you really think we would spend billions on this war, occupying it if someone wasn't profiting? The point is London should be safer and WE THE U.S. should be safer. We need to be vigilant on taking down the terrorist. Focus more on  stopping the terrorist cells where they begin like Africa. Stop Middle Eastern or people who have spent time in the Middle East from entering our country if there is any suspicion whatsoever. It may seem wrong, but this is a war and people will have to just deal with it like they have in the past. You may or may not agree with my views, but we both want the same thing.
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2005, 07:21:39 PM »

this is only my opion
if we had taken more time geting through Iran ,put more death and distruction on the ba------- instilled more fear of the US in them from the get go  I think they would have more respect for use. now they see the US as talkers and not doers
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2005, 07:33:35 PM »

this is only my opion
if we had taken more time geting through Iran ,put more death and distruction on the ba------- instilled more fear of the US in them from the get go  I think they would have more respect for use. now they see the US as talkers and not doers

I for one like the way you think. I wish we did too, but the problem is there is much more going on than we can possibly imagine. Politics is a hard game to master and sometimes you have to forfeit a move to hopefully advance it later. Like they say: "Life's a Gamble"
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2005, 07:52:48 PM »

this is only my opion
if we had taken more time geting through Iran ,put more death and distruction on the ba------- instilled more fear of the US in them from the get go  I think they would have more respect for use. now they see the US as talkers and not doers


How can you instill fear into someone that tries to take on a rolling tank w/ no real armor and a gun. How can you instill fear into someone that'll blow himself away thus showing that he's already not afraid to die. These people are FEARLESS. Cowards, but fearless. They approved of us removing Saddam from power. But as timed moved on those same people began to turn bidder towards our Troops. They're being told we're there for their oil and God knows what other roomers are being spread. We have our mixed views on why we're over there so I couldn't imagine the reasons why they think we're there.
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2005, 07:56:09 PM »

We wen't to war to protect Isreal and boost our economy. that a fact believe it or not jews run our government they own every news paper and news channel. they contribute the most  money to both political party's than anyone, big oil,insurance, pharmacy, e.t.c. So we have to pay back our debt to isreal and protect them from saddam getting nukes. see thats the real reason while those people hate us. there not jealous of us they just hate isreal  and we back isreal with billons not millons a year. they don't buy our fighter planes, tanks, guns, missiles we give for free must be nice. you all can look these facts up if ya want i already did     Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2005, 08:24:51 PM »

I would like anyone who thinks we went to war for oil to go a month without electricity in their house and ride a mule or bike everywhere you go.
 There has always been a battle between good and evil, left unchecked (Clinton) evil will get stronger. Nice does not work with the bad guys, they dont have rules, you must kill them.
 I also dont really give a sh$t if a few soldiers want to walk prisoners around naked on leashes. We arent cutting off their heads.
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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2005, 11:09:10 AM »

death is only one way to instill fear. for those who do not fear death there are other things more terifying than death  you just have to not care what the world opion of you will be.  one example would be to casterate the men so when they got to their heaven all those promised virgins would do them no good
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death is only one way to instill fear. for those who do not fear death there are other things more terifying than death  you just have to not care what the world opion of you will be.  one example would be to casterate the men so when they got to their heaven all those promised virgins would do them no good


Hmmm, now that would stop these Cowards from blowing up snit Roll Eyes.

All that would do is add fuel to the fire. More reason for them to create more havoc in the world. There would be suicide bombers lining up 100miles long waiting to carryout their duties. That's not going to make them fear us, only make them hate us just that much more for defacing their fellow Iraqians(sp). I even thought (through the info I was fed from our Government) that once Saddam was removed the world would be safer. Hell, it's gotten more violent in terms of terrorism. A hornets nest has been stirred and I don't think that our President is man enough to say that we've gotten buried in this thing neck deep.
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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2005, 02:25:14 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2005, 04:45:10 PM »

I won't bother trying to address all of the issues brought up in previous posts. Some I agree with and some I don't. There are some things that need to be said"
We live in a world in which isolationism will no longer work. We can't bring our troops home and forget the rest of the worls. They will just develop long range weapons or strike from neighboring countries. We have to address the threat where it lives.
The only hornet's nest Bush didn't count on is the wacked out liberals willing to forsake the security and integrity of our nation to point a finger at Bush and say "you should have left them alone" even at the expense of our soldiers.
We are not at war in Iraq for economic reasons. That is a stupid arguement. It will be years if/when we see any financial gains from going into Iraq which means Bush will be far from office. That makes no political sense. We are there to free a country from a madman and we have done it. It does take time to establish a new infrastructure, but it is being done.
We didn't attack the extremists that used our planes as weapons back on 9/11. They hate us and struck first. We can't ignore it or anyone that dislikes us will do the same and more. To make our country safe we must go after and destroy the ones that attacked us, and those that would harbor and aid them. that is the only way to ensure our safety. Not only will they no longer be able to pose a threat to us, but the example will serve as a deterent to others. Of course the terrorists are going nuts now... we are leaving them no where to run. Yes it is hard now, but is necessary for the longevity of security of the world as we know it. For some to count off every soldier lost,not to remember them as heros, but to say we lost another life and need to pull out just to say Bush was wrong to go in is an offense to those that made the ultimate sacrifice and to those they have made safer by doing so. I don't hear anyone complaining about the massive numbers lost on D-Day to make the world a safe place and to liberate countries from another mad man.
There are costs to being safe and securing our way of life here in America. I thank God that it has not had to be far greater, and I appreciate those that died to keep us safe.
If we were to adopt some of the suggestions by some such as - leave them alone maybe they will leave us alone, bring our men home, close the borders, forget about the rest of the world as long as we're ok here... we would be in for much worse that what we say on 9/11.
It disgusts me that this has been politicised into a 2 party war. Forget if you are R or D we are Americans. And to keep us safe, and to save others this war on terror is necessary, and we can't stop until it's through or they will simply regroup and hit us again. We need to rid the world of terror.
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« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2005, 05:00:23 PM »

Hmmm, no economics involved in the decision at all? You sure? Wonder why we didn't take steps to prevent genocide in the Bosnian conflict? Not really sure we import anything from that area of the globe of much consequence.

Economic impact of war is instantaneous. Always has been. The impact of the lastest go around in Iraq was felt immediately and we're feeling it still today. Any argument to the contrary ignores pure economic realities and current fiscal data. Not saying it is the ONLY reason we are in Iraq, but if you think it wasn't a big part of the decision to go, you've got your head in the sand. This is a fact freely admitted by all branches and parties in our government.

cain, I'm on the same page with you regarding hate striking us first and those who hate us doing it again. We must go after the terrorists and those who harbor them. I  would persoanlly like to see it move a bit faster.

I agree that it is sick to make war and terrorism a party issue. But, that's American politics for you. Hasn't changed a bit in over 100 years. Most who complain about the war really have no idea of the reasons, impact or depth of the conflict. I believe many who complain and "protest" do so because they are weak minded and easily swayed by those around them who convince them that it is the "cool" thing to do. I for one and glad we're in Iraq and hope and pray for all our troops over there and around the world. Being the most powerful nation ont he planet comes at a huge price paid in judgment, money, aid, support (militarily, financially and otherwise) and most important...human lives.

Now, I'm going to the 7-11 to pay $2.49 per gallon for diesel in my truck. LOL, Chillin's donkey might be a good idea after all.
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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2005, 05:54:04 PM »

Anoriginal - this is the closest we have ever come to completely agreeing LOL
An economic impact as a result from war is inevitable. What I meant was that, as many Bush haters have suggested, that we did not go in because of an economic gain as a motivation. I know that our economy has been strongest partially due to our going after those that attacked us. I believe part of that is a renewed confidence in America after everyone saw that we were not going to sit by and let people get away with such terrible acts against us. But we didn't go into Iraq for the oil as it was suggested by many. If that was the case we wouldn't need second mortgages to fill up our trucks.
We should be moving quicker to get those that want to do us harm.. but that is hampered by politics and those screaming it was for oil or a personal vendetta from the first gulf war. I saw we put the other crap aside and get the scum bags that did, helped, or will do similar things to us in the future. That would mean a united front on 1 issue and that doesn't seem possible in Washington. I would like to point out that most opposition to such a strategy comes from the left.
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2005, 10:04:48 PM »

cain73 -

I think you and I see eye to eye more than we think we do. LOL
I would love to see a united front on one issue in Washington. Unfortunatley, I fear I'll never see it in my lifetime. We can all hope.
Lets hope some lasting good comes from our involvement in Iraq. I believe it will. At the very least (which isn't least at all) we removed a truly evil man from power and a lot of people are sleeping more soundly with Saddam behind bars.
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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2005, 11:00:56 PM »

I didn't know that Iraq bombed the towers. I guess you learn something new everyday. I thought that the terrorist that did, came from afghanistan and saudi arabia. Silly me.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2005, 12:14:16 AM »

not silly, cynical. It is known that Sadam harbored and encouraged terrorists. No one said he had a direct hand in the attack on the towers. Next time you want to be "silly" first go ask some Kuwaiti's how they feel about it. I don't think they ever attacked Iraq.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2005, 08:34:04 AM »

Don't forget, Saddam came out publicly in celebration of the 9/11 attacks. Many terrorist training camps were welcomed and supported within Iraq's borders. Iraq was a definitive "hot bed" for terrorists.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2005, 08:49:51 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2005, 01:09:39 PM »

Of coarse he was going to react like that. Look at the punishment we been handing out on his country the past 15 yrs. You guys  and most the nation are blind, when are you going to realize its all religion and the fact that we support and back Isreal. they believe that Isreal has there holy land which they might i don't care.  You won't find a Isrealy and a islamic being friends even here in the states it won't happen. they hate each other. so we fight for Isreal, were there pregnant dog get use to it. they don't even try to help either. by the way the owners of the world trade center buildings are Isrealies didn't know that did ya! over a 1000 Isrealies or jewish americans work in these buildings and not one lost there life. Undecided because they never show up for work that day. thats because they had secret info. knowning this they known this would cause war in the middle east and fools like americans would go fight there fight. they were right. this is why i don't believe in religon its causes all our problems in the world. believe what you want but don't stick it in my face or pocket book.remember you'll never hear about this because they own the media, newspaper e.t.c. our next mission for Isreal will probably be Iran because there working on getting nukes to use on them and then maybe Syria.        Do you see countries like sweden, canada,holland,germany,norway,scottland,denmark,swiss,italy,greece, e.t.c. all rich countries having any problems with the islamics people because they are smarter they don't get envolved in religious matters you can't win.so they stay out and take care of there own people instead. theirs a reason why we all seperated into our own countries years ago we can't get along.I wish we could stick to our own,but with our government being open to big business and religon were in trouble for years to come.
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« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2005, 09:36:10 AM »

TRX9, You hit that right on the head. The Arabs dislike us b/c we do support Isreal.  All this does evolve around religion and land. Back in 95 I took a 10 day religion course over in Jerusalem. Man, there's so much hatred b/w the Jews and the Arabs over there that it's sickning. We had an Arab tour guide and he explained all the strife to us. Arabs over there are limited to where they can go, what they can do, and where they can live over there. To be able gain access to the holy city has to be approved. Isreali armies regulate on who comes in and out of the city. Land where the Arabs ancestors where buried and lived now are forbidden for them to visit and live. There are so many factors involved w/ these 2 nationalities hating each other it's a shame. They dislike us (mainly b/c we support the Jews). Well, now it's also b/c we're occupying Afghanistan.  They may also see this as some plot from the Jews (who we're arm and arm w/ anyway)

My whole perspective on the issue. There are ALOT of things going on over there that aren't right. Arabs are treated as Second class citizens. America support this by supporting Isreal Embarrassed.
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« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2005, 10:28:56 AM »


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How can you instill fear into someone that tries to take on a rolling tank w/ no real armor and a gun. How can you instill fear into someone that'll blow himself away thus showing that he's already not afraid to die. These people are FEARLESS. Cowards, but fearless. They approved of us removing Saddam from power. But as timed moved on those same people began to turn bidder towards our Troops. They're being told we're there for their oil and God knows what other roomers are being spread. We have our mixed views on why we're over there so I couldn't imagine the reasons why they think we're there.
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I really don't see them as fearless, but idiotic. What a moronic strategy to blow yourself up. How long can an army last if it's constantly sacrificing it's people. Yes there are a lot of these fanatics, but you see my point.

Knowing that we are there for oil is not being against the troops. I see so many mothers and fathers with their own children in the military protesting the war. They want them to be safe, not to shame them or put them down. It's not the soldier's fault, it's the leaders who put them in that situation. I like most Americans have the utmost respect for these great people who risk their lives for our freedom and salute their heroic efforts. I might not agree with the war, but I fully support the troops for all they do.

The crazy thing is if you don't like the war you must be a terrorist, if you have a different opinion than the Neo-Cons you are the enemy. What happened to Democracy? Is it too much to ask for our troops safety, to only put them in harms way only when there is no other viable option, to protect us and not just special interest of their commanders?

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« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2005, 09:11:27 PM »

It really bugs me when Americans are so sympathetic towards the Arabs. I will buy a one way plane ticket for anyone thats wants to live over there.
 As far as our troops being safe, of course no one wants to see any soldiers harmed or killed but when you sign up for the job you know the risk. I have so much respect for those that serve. I am actually a bit jealous of them, when we went to war I even went so far as to call a recruiter to see what the max age for enlisting was. I missed it by a year. I have 3 children and it would have been a burden on my family but maybe it would have kept one of them from having to die, either in war or a terrorists attack in their own country. This is the last comment from me on this subject, it is a free country and everyone has a right to an opinion. The funny thing is this is an ATV website not a tree huggin save the whales site. When you fill your truck up with GAS and your bikes up with GAS and drive 3 hours each way burning up all that GAS to go ride somewhere be thankfull that you live in a free country that you can enjoy a sport like we do.
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« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2005, 10:48:36 PM »

It really bugs me when Americans are so sympathetic towards the Arabs.


Dude, maybe you wanna look around you. There are Arabs that love this country just as much as you and I and are enlisted in one of our branches. They were born here and have the right to be called Americans just as much as any of us do. Also there are those Arabs that live their lives and don't believe in the terrorist activities that are going on in the world today.

What's wrong is wrong! Many years ago my Grandparents and parents were told they couldn't go in certain places b/c of the color of their skin. B/c they were different than the majority. It wasn't right here then, and it's not right over there now. So as far as your statement about  "Sympathizing" w/ them goes.... If you see it as that it's okay w/ me. But remember, all Arabs aren't terrorists. I think it's sad when we speak on a group as a whole in this situation b/c of the acts of some.

If a few white men commit a crime does that mean all white men should be held accountable for that crime? What about Black men? What about the Chinese? There is scum no matter what color, nationality, or ethnicity. There are Americans that hate this country just as much as the terrorists. Matter of factly, they are terrorists. Guess who harbor them and train them? Timothy McViegh (sp) was only one of many....
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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2005, 12:30:16 PM »

I pretty much hate everyone the same.
Easier that way and nobody can accuse me of being partial.


If the Arabic people want sympathy, here you go: I won't beat you over the head with a 2 liter bottle of coke because you can't speak enough english to count change for me at the quick stop store.  Pretty kind hearted wouldn't you say?

I'm Anoriginal, I approved this message and I've never driven a camel with a stick.
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« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2005, 01:01:00 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2005, 01:16:10 PM »

I  think it is kind of funny that an UNarmed society "British" sort of retalliated by throwing rocks and stuff at the MOSQUES....Terrorists better remember we dont throw stones over here .  But I know deep down inside the People of AMERICA will handle this problem very quicklywhen the need is there .  Anyone who sympathises with these A Holes need to be present the next time one drives up to a group of kids and blows up . These people need to have someone to hate ..for them hate and violence are a national past time.
 So do you think they will start blowing up at wall mart or TOYS AR US .  Hey lets go Christmas shopping everybody .The Day after Thanks Giving .
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