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o4250
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Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 03:01:41 PM »
I got this from bluetraxx.com
Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue
to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that
came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice?
??
Think about it
All I have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? I
celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't celebrated by everyone, we can no
longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not
Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter
break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday? We've gone so far the other
way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended.
But it seems that no one has a problem with that.
This says it all!
This is an editorial written by an
American citizen, published in a
Tampa newspaper He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!
IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AMERICANS,
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks
on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge
in patriotism by the majority
of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining
about
the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is
seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost
entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there
are a few things that those
who have recently come to
our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of
America being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
Americans, we
have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been
developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of
men and women who have sought freedom.
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part
of our society, learn the language!
"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right
wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and
women,
on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it
on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as
your new home, because God is part
of our culture.
If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet. We
are happy with our culture and have
no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where
you came from. This is
OUR COUNTRY,
our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the
right to express his opinion and we
will allow you every opportunity to do so!
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag,
our pledge, our national motto, or our
way of life, I highly encourage you
take advantage of one other! great A merican freedom,
THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
It is Time for America to Speak up
If you agree -- pass this along;
if you don't agree -- delete it!
AMEN
I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends
(and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers,
lets all try,
please
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 03:12:55 PM »
Quote from: o4250 on July 01, 2005, 03:01:41 PM
Christian men and
women,
on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
documented.
you know what else is clearly documented?
this country was stolen! man this one track, red neck, simple minded, jesus christ crap is really burning me up lately.
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o4250
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Re: Agreed
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Reply #2 on:
July 01, 2005, 03:17:06 PM »
Quote from: bigb on July 01, 2005, 03:12:55 PM
Quote from: o4250 on July 01, 2005, 03:01:41 PM
Christian men and
women,
on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
documented.
you know what else is clearly documented?
this country was stolen! man this one track, red neck, simple minded, jesus christ crap is really burning me up lately.
So if you agree with this you're a redneck?
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bigb
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 03:23:40 PM »
i'm sorry man i do that all the time i get fired up and throw stuff around.
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 04:30:43 PM »
Quote from: o4250 on July 01, 2005, 03:01:41 PM
I got this from bluetraxx.com
Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue
to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that
came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice?
??
Think about it
All I have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? I
celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't celebrated by everyone, we can no
longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not
Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter
break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday? We've gone so far the other
way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended.
But it seems that no one has a problem with that.
This says it all!
This is an editorial written by an
American citizen, published in a
Tampa newspaper He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!
IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AMERICANS,
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks
on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge
in patriotism by the majority
of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining
about
the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is
seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost
entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there
are a few things that those
who have recently come to
our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of
America being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
Americans, we
have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been
developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of
men and women who have sought freedom.
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part
of our society, learn the language!
"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right
wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and
women,
on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it
on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you
consider another part of the world as
your new home, because God is part
of our culture.
If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet. We
are happy with our culture and have
no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where
you came from. This is
OUR COUNTRY,
our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the
right to express his opinion and we
will allow you every opportunity to do so!
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag,
our pledge, our national motto, or our
way of life, I highly encourage you
take advantage of one other! great A merican freedom,
THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
It is Time for America to Speak up
If you agree -- pass this along;
if you don't agree -- delete it!
AMEN
I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends
(and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers,
lets all try,
please
The article generally makes sense, but it has it's flaws.
First off who says our patriotism is offending anyone? No American I know. It's just more political Bullsh*t to scare the people into complying.
Why does God seem to only apply to Christians in this article??? I thought other religions had a God as well.
Just because one guy made the word God not required for the "Pledge of Allegiance" in our schools people think that you can't say it. C'mon that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. People still say the "Pledge of Allegiance" with the word God in school, even the ones that don't believe in him. They're just not required to. 1st Amendment rights.
Also every company I worked for calls it Christmas Vacation. Some calling it Winter Break to be tolerant to other cultures is fine by me. There are other religious holidays in December.
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 05:04:55 PM »
04250 - I agree with you whole heartidly. People come here and expect us to honor their ways/traditions while they disrespect and ignore ours. If they do it they are just portraying their diverse heritage, if we do it we are redneck, Bible banging, bla, bla , blas.
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 05:59:07 PM »
you wanna talk about disrespect? go talk to a native american, i'm sure he/she will be able to tell you plenty on the subject. that is if you can even find one. those are the people that really got screwed now all you guys 200 years later are like "it's my country" and all this b.s. about "founding fathers" should be theiving fathers. that was my point.
if you're gonna come jack some ones land you should be more tolerant of other peoples cultures, but if that were the case there would be alot more indans around today now wouldn't there?
it just blows my mind how people claim land that isn't theirs write up a little peice of paper and forget about who had been here for many years prior.
imagine trying to do that in todays world!!!! what happened was real F'd up and now america is a melting pot, embrace it.
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 06:21:43 PM »
so forget American culture and open the borders and see what happens. what about terrorists? Maybe they want to melt in and burn it down. But since the Indians got screwed it's all fair game? We can't change the past but we can protect the future. Here's another instance of a few trying to tell the many what to do. We should all be so happy that bigb is here for the little guys, the deviants, and the underdogs. Regardless of if they need or deserve it. If there is a hint of an arguement, no matter how lame, he'll make it. Hey b should we blow up Isreal since it wasn't on the map 100 years ago? how far back should we go to distribute ownership of the land of the Earth? Obviously you feel it should be more than a few hundred years. Where should the line be drawn? And why do you get to make the decision? I know that most of the American population would disagree with you. But as long as you get to spout off I'm sure you're happy.
Enjoy.
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 06:36:34 PM »
they say ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 06:57:28 PM »
then your FULL of bliss
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Re: Agreed
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July 01, 2005, 06:57:51 PM »
Quote from: bigb on July 01, 2005, 05:59:07 PM
you wanna talk about disrespect? go talk to a native american, i'm sure he/she will be able to tell you plenty on the subject. that is if you can even find one. those are the people that really got screwed now all you guys 200 years later are like "it's my country" and all this b.s. about "founding fathers" should be theiving fathers. that was my point.
if you're gonna come jack some ones land you should be more tolerant of other peoples cultures, but if that were the case there would be alot more indans around today now wouldn't there?
it just blows my mind how people claim land that isn't theirs write up a little peice of paper and forget about who had been here for many years prior.
imagine trying to do that in todays world!!!! what happened was real F'd up and now america is a melting pot, embrace it.
I am not going to discredit your coments entirely I strongly suggest studing American History, your views are a misrepresentation of our country. I'll leave it at that, I offerred to send you a book that will clear up a few of your misguided views but you have declined. in case you have forgotten it is called ONE NATION UNDER GOD by Dr. David Gibbs Jr.. We have debated this on another Thread.
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Re: Agreed
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Reply #11 on:
July 01, 2005, 07:17:48 PM »
Quote from: bluesman on July 01, 2005, 06:57:28 PM
then your FULL of bliss
blissful is the word i belive you were going for.
i know we beat this up in the other thread chuck, sorry i brought it up again. it just fires me up to read some of this stuff, i'll leave it alone from now on.
BTW chuck was that a K code coupe you posted in the "pics of your street rides" thread?
if so would you have an interest in selling it?
K code coupes are a fetish of mine.
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Re: Agreed
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Reply #12 on:
July 01, 2005, 11:27:35 PM »
Quote from: cain73 on July 01, 2005, 05:04:55 PM
04250 - I agree with you whole heartidly. People come here and expect us to honor their ways/traditions while they disrespect and ignore ours. If they do it they are just portraying their diverse heritage, if we do it we are redneck, Bible banging, bla, bla , blas.
Cain, I have to say next time let me respond
I again .....agree with you!!
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Re: Agreed
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July 02, 2005, 09:15:07 AM »
Quote from: bigb on July 01, 2005, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: bluesman on July 01, 2005, 06:57:28 PM
then your FULL of bliss
BTW chuck was that a K code coupe you posted in the "pics of your street rides" thread?
if so would you have an interest in selling it?
"A" code 4speed with A/C
restored it in 1994
Not for sale anytime soon
If yo dont mind me asking and maybe this will clear some confusion for me but How old are you?
Quote from: bigb link=topic=4383.msg62985#msg62985 [quote
jesus christ crap is really burning me up lately.
Jesus has a Strange way of getting your attention but burning is not one of his traits that is left to his adversary
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Re: Agreed
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July 02, 2005, 10:53:03 AM »
My ancestors did not steal this land, own slaves, inter the Japanese during WW2 or anything of that nature. I refuse to be saddled with
that
guilt trip. What's done is done, and it is time to move forward. I LOVE this country. It sure has a lot of flaws, but it's the best thing going. I thank God (or whatever supreme being there is) that I am lucky enough to live here. If you don't like it, work for change. That is what living here is all about. I'll get off my soapbox now.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
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Re: Agreed
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July 02, 2005, 12:37:03 PM »
Quote from: GSPKurt on July 02, 2005, 10:53:03 AM
My ancestors did not steal this land, own slaves, inter the Japanese during WW2 or anything of that nature. I refuse to be saddled with
that
guilt trip. What's done is done, and it is time to move forward. I LOVE this country. It sure has a lot of flaws, but it's the best thing going. I thank God (or whatever supreme being there is) that I am lucky enough to live here. If you don't like it, work for change. That is what living here is all about. I'll get off my soapbox now.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Now that I can Agree too...
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Re: Agreed
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July 02, 2005, 12:40:29 PM »
Quote from: GSPKurt on July 02, 2005, 10:53:03 AM
I LOVE this country. It sure has a lot of flaws, but it's the best thing going. I thank God (or whatever supreme being there is) that I am lucky enough to live here. If you don't like it, work for change.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
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Re: Agreed
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July 02, 2005, 02:27:05 PM »
I am Bible banging redneck! so what...
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Re: Agreed
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amen brother
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Re: Agreed
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July 02, 2005, 04:10:55 PM »
Quote from: big-daddy on July 02, 2005, 02:27:05 PM
I am Bible banging redneck! so what...
i resemble that remark
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Re: Agreed
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I don't know what to say. Stupid people shouldn't breed? Does that help?
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Re: Agreed
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July 04, 2005, 05:41:25 PM »
Big B may be slightly misguided, however he has a good point. I know what he is trying to say. Apparently it is not coming out correctly. I have served in two branches of the military and as soon as I complete college I will serve as an officer in a third. I am well aware of what I am fighting for and I am well aware of my ancestors and the contributions they have made. I have traced back to ancestors that fought in the war for independents as well as for the side of the confederacy. My family has fought in every war since and in-between. We fight, because we believe. We stand when others lie down. This county was stolen. Just as the rights of the South was stolen in the 1850’s. But this is today, and this is a different era. I fight for my country and what it means today. The history of the this country has taught us a great deal. By learning that history accurately it may become more clear as to why so many people feel political correctness is the answer. To me it is a plague, a retched dieses that is destroying many of the values we once held dear. But like I said before, I come from a long line of strong willed people who fight for what they believe.
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Re: Agreed
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July 05, 2005, 08:56:51 AM »
Quote from: bigb on July 01, 2005, 03:12:55 PM
Quote from: o4250 on July 01, 2005, 03:01:41 PM
Christian men and
women,
on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
documented.
you know what else is clearly documented?
this country was stolen! man this one track, red neck, simple minded, jesus christ crap is really burning me up lately.
You say "redneck" like its a bad thing, now thats just down right mean and you've gone too far.
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Re: Agreed
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Quote from: LonesomeTriZ on July 04, 2005, 05:41:25 PM
Big B may be slightly misguided, however he has a good point. I know what he is trying to say. Apparently it is not coming out correctly. I have served in two branches of the military and as soon as I complete college I will serve as an officer in a third. I am well aware of what I am fighting for and I am well aware of my ancestors and the contributions they have made. I have traced back to ancestors that fought in the war for independents as well as for the side of the confederacy. My family has fought in every war since and in-between. We fight, because we believe. We stand when others lie down. This county was stolen. Just as the rights of the South was stolen in the 1850’s. But this is today, and this is a different era. I fight for my country and what it means today. The history of the this country has taught us a great deal. By learning that history accurately it may become more clear as to why so many people feel political correctness is the answer. To me it is a plague, a retched dieses that is destroying many of the values we once held dear. But like I said before, I come from a long line of strong willed people who fight for what they believe.
Well said ! I salute you for your service to this country as well as your intelligent, enilghtened outlook on the situation.
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Re: Agreed
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July 05, 2005, 11:19:57 AM »
Quote from: cain73 on July 05, 2005, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: LonesomeTriZ on July 04, 2005, 05:41:25 PM
Big B may be slightly misguided, however he has a good point. I know what he is trying to say. Apparently it is not coming out correctly. I have served in two branches of the military and as soon as I complete college I will serve as an officer in a third. I am well aware of what I am fighting for and I am well aware of my ancestors and the contributions they have made. I have traced back to ancestors that fought in the war for independents as well as for the side of the confederacy. My family has fought in every war since and in-between. We fight, because we believe. We stand when others lie down. This county was stolen. Just as the rights of the South was stolen in the 1850’s. But this is today, and this is a different era. I fight for my country and what it means today. The history of the this country has taught us a great deal. By learning that history accurately it may become more clear as to why so many people feel political correctness is the answer. To me it is a plague, a retched dieses that is destroying many of the values we once held dear. But like I said before, I come from a long line of strong willed people who fight for what they believe.
Well said ! I salute you for your service to this country as well as your intelligent, enilghtened outlook on the situation.
Try-Z, I wish to thank you for your service and your familys service to this country. Peolple like you are why we are free enough to voice our opinions in forums such as this. My thought on the redneck bible thumper comments made are this... I fall in that catagory
being born and raised in the south (FL) it is how I was raised BUT I do not go around slamming others for not having the same thought as me. The old fashioned way I was raised, my following of GOD, having manors and respect is not what is wrong with this nation. What is wrong with our country is the opposite!!! People with no faith ,that use politics to hide because they are not strong enough to do the right thing as you and your family!!! Again I thank you and may GOD bless you.
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Re: Agreed
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July 05, 2005, 11:30:59 AM »
That you for your encouragement. When ever I start to feel as though No one really cares about the sacrifices my brothers and sister in arms have to make, along comes the vociferous few who remind me that I have made the correct choice. Through out my travels and experiences I have learned it is imperative to be well informed before you take a side. Not only must you know and understand the underline cause of a conflict, one must also believe in the principles for which it exists. I have chosen the side of liberty. Unfortunately that was not a well distributed belief through out this country’s history. Although very upsetting, it is a part of our past and must serve as a learning experience for today. It does no one any good to choose a side of a war that has long sense past. However, it is of the utmost importance to stand by the principles for which the war was fought. I have noticed that many of us who do not summit to the political correctness agenda are simply labeled bible thumpers or rednecks. I do take offense to these terms when I am labeled for presenting my conservative views. I take offense because thanks to the political correctness plague, these terms have become an insult. They have become a way for the liberals to label who they view as ignorant. Their view of ignorance is any one who does not subscribe to there damaging way of thinking. I am not sure if my point was made, so I at least hope that my words have initiated a different view and given you all something to think about.
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Re: Agreed
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Quote from: LonesomeTriZ on July 05, 2005, 11:30:59 AM
That you for your encouragement. When ever I start to feel as though No one really cares about the sacrifices my brothers and sister in arms have to make, along comes the vociferous few who remind me that I have made the correct choice. Through out my travels and experiences I have learned it is imperative to be well informed before you take a side. Not only must you know and understand the underline cause of a conflict, one must also believe in the principles for which it exists. I have chosen the side of liberty. Unfortunately that was not a well distributed belief through out this country’s history. Although very upsetting, it is a part of our past and must serve as a learning experience for today. It does no one any good to choose a side of a war that has long sense past. However, it is of the utmost importance to stand by the principles for which the war was fought. I have noticed that many of us who do not summit to the political correctness agenda are simply labeled bible thumpers or rednecks. I do take offense to these terms when I am labeled for presenting my conservative views. I take offense because thanks to the political correctness plague, these terms have become an insult. They have become a way for the liberals to label who they view as ignorant. Their view of ignorance is any one who does not subscribe to there damaging way of thinking. I am not sure if my point was made, so I at least hope that my words have initiated a different view and given you all something to think about.
I wish you were standing right in front of me right now cause i would shake your hand and pat you on the back. I completely agree this PC movement has gotten out of hand. These ppl go out and preach about political correctness and how name calling is bad but in the same breath talk about us "stupid rednecks." I dont know for sure but that seems a tad bit hypocritical. I went up north once, i repeat once, and those were the rudest ppl i have ever run across.If being from the south makes me an ignorant redneck, well by god i am. I am polite and help ppl out, if thats a bad thing, oh well.
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LonesomeTriz i do appreciate everything the military provides for america and i'll thank you for your efforts as an individual. i love america and wouldn't trade it for any other country, it's where anyone can be anybody and that is a great thing. it's just not right to be any other way, i understand i am in the minority on this site and i'm fine with that. people need to mess with others lives less and live their life more.
i've appoligized for the redneck comment it was uncalled for, but if there wern't some truth to the stereo-type then there wouldn't be one.
i'll leave it at that.
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July 05, 2005, 01:21:06 PM »
Big B, you are more correct than I think you and others may realize or even want to realize. Have you ever heard of the saying where there is smoke there is fire? I have learned that with all stereotypes, there is a certain amount of undeniable truth. Look at the way the general public views any one with a truck, living in a trailer, and flying the Confederate battle flag. According the general public, that person is an ignorant, racist, uneducated person who can never amount to much. I have met plenty of people who drive trucks and live in trailer who are very intelligent. But you will never see them on the news describing the tornado or the flood waters. I come from blue collar hillbilly roots. Some may describe me as a redneck. I was raised in a way to where that would be an insult. Not because all rednecks are bad, but because a stigma has been attached to the term. I am neither racists nor ignorant. I fly the confederate battle flag as well as the other flags of the confederacy because I am proud of my heritage and my red Dixie blood. I also drive one hell of a truck and live in a trailer. The only people I have ever hated are the ones who are simply drains on society. (I.E. criminals, tree huggers, hippies, lazy good for nothings, ECT.) I may fit a portion of the stereotype, but I am far from what society believes me to be. You can thank this new wave of country singers who have no idea what real country life is al about. You can think the media for searching for the dumbest people they can find to talk about how their trailer has been flooded for the 18th time is a row. You can think these stupid movies such as that horrible remake of the Dukes of Hazard. If you are sick of the stereo type, then change it. I am.
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OK I have to put my 2 cents in on Big B. I don't know if any of you have done your family tree but pretty much everyone has a lil part of every culture, we just grew and spread across the country. In Big B's arguement about the Indians, the Indians may have owned the land but do you realize that almost 50% of TRUE AMERICANS today have Indian in them?
Do you also know that all of the TRUE INDIAN tribes are still getting Compensated for their land. And I know this for a fact that if you have 25% of any of the TRUE Indian bloodlines (Mohican, Seminole, Cherokee... and so one) and you can prove it that OUR Government will pay you $1500 a month just b/c of your Indian Heritage. Gods honest truth I know a guy who recieves it now and you couldn't tell he had any Indian in him. Our Government has us so much against each other b/c they can say one thing but behind your back they are DOING something else. Look at our troops they are fighting a war to help the Iraqi's become free and to distroy the terrorists from coming again. And God Bless them for it but they don't know from one minute to the next what's going to happen to them and where they will be sent. Big B all I can say to you is I bet that you are one of these men who think that women should be suppressed and not be able to speak unless spoken to and should be obedient. lol you wouldn't last 5 min here....All I'm gonna say now is "God Bless America" and my kids WILL grow up to know what is right and wrong, what happened to our troops in the wars and that people died for them to be Free and to live on and that God will help them along the way.
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blupits reading that jargon you posted made my head hurt.
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Quote from: blupits04 on July 05, 2005, 02:17:48 PM
OK I have to put my 2 cents in on Big B. I don't know if any of you have done your family tree but pretty much everyone has a lil part of every culture, we just grew and spread across the country. In Big B's arguement about the Indians, the Indians may have owned the land but do you realize that almost 50% of TRUE AMERICANS today have Indian in them?
Do you also know that all of the TRUE INDIAN tribes are still getting Compensated for their land. And I know this for a fact that if you have 25% of any of the TRUE Indian bloodlines (Mohican, Seminole, Cherokee... and so one) and you can prove it that OUR Government will pay you $1500 a month just b/c of your Indian Heritage. Gods honest truth I know a guy who recieves it now and you couldn't tell he had any Indian in him. Our Government has us so much against each other b/c they can say one thing but behind your back they are DOING something else. Look at our troops they are fighting a war to help the Iraqi's become free and to distroy the terrorists from coming again. And God Bless them for it but they don't know from one minute to the next what's going to happen to them and where they will be sent. Big B all I can say to you is I bet that you are one of these men who think that women should be suppressed and not be able to speak unless spoken to and should be obedient. lol you wouldn't last 5 min here....All I'm gonna say now is "God Bless America" and my kids WILL grow up to know what is right and wrong, what happened to our troops in the wars and that people died for them to be Free and to live on and that God will help them along the way.
Take the land from the Native Americans by force and give them tax breaks and land the government doesn't want. Now that's American Democracy.
What is your definition of a true American? I thought a true American was someone born here.
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Quote from: blupits04 on July 05, 2005, 02:17:48 PM
OK I have to put my 2 cents in on Big B. I don't know if any of you have done your family tree but pretty much everyone has a lil part of every culture, we just grew and spread across the country. In Big B's arguement about the Indians, the Indians may have owned the land but do you realize that almost 50% of TRUE AMERICANS today have Indian in them?
Do you also know that all of the TRUE INDIAN tribes are still getting Compensated for their land. And I know this for a fact that if you have 25% of any of the TRUE Indian bloodlines (Mohican, Seminole, Cherokee... and so one) and you can prove it that OUR Government will pay you $1500 a month just b/c of your Indian Heritage. Gods honest truth I know a guy who recieves it now and you couldn't tell he had any Indian in him. Our Government has us so much against each other b/c they can say one thing but behind your back they are DOING something else. Look at our troops they are fighting a war to help the Iraqi's become free and to distroy the terrorists from coming again. And God Bless them for it but they don't know from one minute to the next what's going to happen to them and where they will be sent. Big B all I can say to you is I bet that you are one of these men who think that women should be suppressed and not be able to speak unless spoken to and should be obedient. lol you wouldn't last 5 min here....All I'm gonna say now is "God Bless America" and my kids WILL grow up to know what is right and wrong, what happened to our troops in the wars and that people died for them to be Free and to live on and that God will help them along the way.
I have to side with TRX and Big B on this one. I am aware the government is doing what they feel is right be the Indians who had ancestors that suffered. However, entire cultures, civilizations, and a way of life was destroyed. No amount of compensation today will change what they went through then. I understand the point you are trying to make, but I think you missed your mark on this one.
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You all realize that the Indian tribes were regularly at war with each other over land and when they took it they didn't compensate the losers, they killed them.
Do you honestly think this huge piece of land we live on would still be pristine, untouched wilderness if only the indians lived here? Asians or South Americans would have taken this land over if the Europeans didn't. If you feel so bad for the American Indians then donate some money to them and quit crying about history...it's done and can't be changed.
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That is the point I tried to make earlier. It is a shame the way they were treated, but what is done is done. As I said before, consider it a learning experiance.
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Quote from: 2Raptors on July 06, 2005, 08:17:01 AM
You all realize that the Indian tribes were regularly at war with each other over land and when they took it they didn't compensate the losers, they killed them.
Do you honestly think this huge piece of land we live on would still be pristine, untouched wilderness if only the indians lived here? Asians or South Americans would have taken this land over if the Europeans didn't. If you feel so bad for the American Indians then donate some money to them and quit crying about history...it's done and can't be changed.
There were actually very few Indian Tribes that were violent towards others, but history as usual is distorted. Just look at Paul Revere's Ride. Paul was actually captured before his famous ride. William Dawes and Samuel Prescott with 40 other riders were the real heroes of the night, but when Longfellow wrote the poem he had trouble rhyming with Prescott's name.
To answer your question on whether we would have pristine land, the answer is Yes and No. Native Americans for the most part believe in giving back to the land and that is why I say Yes. On the other hand the Native Americans were not strong enough to defend this land. If we didn't take it then who? Probably people who cared a lot less about nature, though with our government's current stance on the environment we may not have pristine land for much longer.
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I donate plenty of money to the Native Americans. It's called Native American Casino's. Their are plenty of Native American Casino's in Wisconsin that me and the wife donate thousands a year at.
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Quote from: outtolunch on July 06, 2005, 09:32:48 AM
I donate plenty of money to the Native Americans. It's called Native American Casino's. Their are plenty of Native American Casino's in Wisconsin that me and the wife donate thousands a year at.
It's good to see you're doing your part...I've also contributed in a similar fashion
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Quote from: 2Raptors on July 06, 2005, 06:14:10 PM
Quote from: outtolunch on July 06, 2005, 09:32:48 AM
I donate plenty of money to the Native Americans. It's called Native American Casino's. Their are plenty of Native American Casino's in Wisconsin that me and the wife donate thousands a year at.
It's good to see you're doing your part...I've also contributed in a similar fashion
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Ya know I have to agree with what this person put in the Tampa paper. My ancestors were Cherokee Indian. My Great Grandmother was taken off of the Indian Reservation that she was living on. What's wrong with this picture. I'm sick and tired of those individuals coming into our country and complaining about every little thing that Americans do. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE, FIND THE NEAREST EXIT, AND DO SO! Just once I would like to go into a store and not have the person waiting on me speak to me in Spanish. I don't even look Spanish.
And as someone else questioned, What about my rights. I guess that was thrown out the window.
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Quote from: suburbangirl on July 06, 2005, 09:29:56 PM
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE, FIND THE NEAREST EXIT, AND DO SO! Just once I would like to go into a store and not have the person waiting on me speak to me in Spanish. I don't even look Spanish.
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