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« on: August 28, 2008, 08:17:34 PM »

Has anyone seen anything further on this??

Okeechobee ATV case brings issue of risky activities before state supreme court
By Derek Simmonsen

Originally published 11:19 a.m., June 11, 2008
Updated 11:20 a.m., June 11, 2008

TALLAHASSEE — The rights of parents took center stage at the Florida Supreme Court on Wednesday as the justices heard arguments in a case out of Okeechobee County that could impact businesses that offer risky activities to children, such as watersports and motorcross.

The case was brought by the estate of Christopher Jones, a 14-year-old boy who died in an ATV accident in May 2003 at the now-defunct Thunder Cross Motor Sports Park in Okeechobee. The boy's father, who was divorced and had custody, signed a release form waiving the child's right to sue for damages.

After the death occurred, the boy's mother Bette Jones, who didn't know her son was riding ATVs, filed a wrongful death suit against the park claiming the owners were negligent. The trial court dismissed the case because of the release form, but the Fourth District Court of Appeal reversed, finding there was nothing in state law that allows a parent to waive all legal rights on behalf of a child.

Because the decision conflicted with another appeals court case, the matter ended up before the justices.

Richard Lee Barrett, who represents the former park manager and other motorcross parks in the state, argued that because the legislature hasn't banned the use of prerelease forms, there is a unstated right of companies to use them. He noted that Florida law allows parents to make the general decision on behalf of their children on whether to sue or not and said it wasn't a stretch to allow parents to sign releases that waive legal rights.

"The underlying decision of whether to subject your child to the court system, whether to file the lawsuit at all, lies solely with the parent," he said.

Justice Barbara Pariente, who at one point said she had a "visceral reaction" against the forms, worried the court might be encouraging carelessness by allowing all types of releases and questioned whether it wouldn't be better to ban the releases unless the legislature specifically allowed it.

"How are we to do something if the legislature hasn't acted one way or the other?" asked Pariente at one point.

Chief Justice R. Fred Lewis questioned whether Barrett wasn't asking for a "limitless rule" that would apply to any type of thrill-seeking activity no matter how dangerous, such as climbing into a pen of snakes and playing with them. Barrett said the releases wouldn't be valid for an illegal activity, but for anything else parents ultimately have the sole discretion on deciding what activities their children can participate in.

Bard Rockenbach, who represents the mother, also faced questions from the justices about whether it was an issue that would be better for the legislature to address. Rockenbach said that if the court throws out the idea of release forms because nothing in past Florida law supports them, it would still allow the legislature to come in and create policies that would allow for them.

The justices also questioned him on how this case fits into past Florida law that has clearly established parents have significant rights and whether the decision would be consistent with past cases.

Rockenbach acknowledged the case, in part, is a conflict between the rights of parents and the interest the state has to protect children. While parents can waive certain rights of their children, they can't waive the basic right to file a lawsuit in the first place, he argued.

In briefs, attorneys for the park claim that without being able to use releases, many businesses would be unable to gain insurance and have to close. The opposing side says those fears are unfounded, as businesses wouldn't be in danger if they are operating safely.

 © 2008 Scripps Treasure Coast Newspapers
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 09:05:54 PM »

So in English what does that mean? Is the park at fault or are the release forms OK? Can you translate this to English Matt?
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2008, 11:31:47 PM »

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Here's the skinny on this. First, this case was certified to the Florida Supreme Court as a result of a conflict between district courts. District Courts are the Court's you appeal to if you lose in Circuit court (the court you are in when you file suit for damages in excess of the amount allowed in County Court). There are several districts across the state, usually comprised of several counties each.

Any time you have two separate district courts rendering opinions that counter one another, this obviously creates a conflict. The reason? Well, when you are making an argument in Circuit Court, usually you are asking the circuit court to rule one way or another based upon the way District Courts have ruled on a particular issue in the past. This is called case law. In other words, it's a way of saying to the Circuit Court, "Look, here's the way the district courts have interpreted this issue in the past. Therefore, follow their example and interpret this issue the same way."

Now, if you have two District Courts ruling in opposite manners on the same issue, it makes it difficult for a Circuit Court Judge to rule in any one direction without risking being appealed based upon the competing or different opinion from another District. In this case, the 4th DCA (District Court of Appeal) ruled in a manner different from the 5th DCA when it determined the release wasn't adequate protection when the life of a child was involved under these circumstances. As a result, the District Court "certified" the question of a parent's ability to bind a minor's estate by signing a release. Once certified, it is up to the Florida Supreme Court to reach a determination on the certified issue.

So, that's how it gets to the Florida Supreme Court. Now, for the issues at hand. Actually, it's one issue. Wether or not a release is sufficient in the case of a child. Obviously, the law has always been that, with the exception of illegal activities, any adult can sign a release of liability which is enforceable should accidents occur. Provided the release had all of the right language that's required (and established via DCA rulings over the years) it would shield the individual or entity from liability should the releasing party get injured or worse.

The glitch in this case is the fact that the parents were divorced and the mother had no idea the father was letting the son race. Moreover, the fact that it was a child who was in his father's care and therefore hadn"t reached the age of majority allowing him to make decisions on his own, really throws a wrench into things.

I've read the briefs and the opinion reached by the 4th DCA when certifying the issue to the Supreme Court. The problem they see in this case is the fact that, while a parent can sign a release for their child, "The release causes a forfeiture of the minor’s property right to seek legal redress either through his parent or the appointment of a guardian ad litem." Fields v. Kirton, 961 So.2d 1127 (Fla. 4th DCA 2007). Here's a link to the 4th DCA's opinion which lays out their concern and certification pretty well.   http://www.4dca.org/August%202007/08-08-07/4D06-1486.op.pdf

In the end, they viewed the right to pursue the motocross park for damages resulting from injury (or in this case death), was a property right flowing to the child's estate that couldn't be waived by the parent. Actually an interesting take on the matter.  While it's easy to see the basis for this argument, the fall out is huge. In determining this issue, the Supreme Court could potentially eviscerate releases and the insulating abilities they've always provided. However, the flip side would be to take away a property right that an estate would otherwise have. This is a tough one.

I am super tired right now and will look online tomorrow for a ruling. If I find it, I'll post it.

Hope that explained it a little better.  Grin




http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/07/07-1739/07-1739_JurisIni.pdf
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 01:01:11 PM »

the final ruling is what I am interested in but cannot seem to find.  would appreciate the input.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 01:17:44 PM »

renmus:

I looked earlier today and they haven't published a ruling yet. I've got it set for watch on my westlaw program. So, as soon as it is published, I'll pass on the info.

If anyone wants, I will post links of the briefs filed on both sides as well as the amicus curaie briefs from the AMA and other organizations.

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 01:34:07 PM »

renmus:

I looked earlier today and they haven't published a ruling yet. I've got it set for watch on my westlaw program. So, as soon as it is published, I'll pass on the info.

If anyone wants, I will post links of the briefs filed on both sides as well as the amicus curaie briefs from the AMA and other organizations.

~ Matt

thank you.  i would appreciate both sides.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 01:55:24 PM »

Here is a link to the briefs filed by all parties. You will need to scroll down and view the information for case numbers SC07-1739 (Kirton, etc. et. al. v. Fields, etc. et. al), SC07-1741 (Dyess v. Fields) and SC07-1742 (Kirton et. al. v. State of Florida).

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/clerk/briefs/2007/1601-1800/index.shtml

If anyone has any questions about the process, what things mean or how it works, just let me know and I will do my bests to answer your questions.
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