Paddling children in school

[AintSkeered]

So, the child who chooses corporal punishment gets to stay in school while the one who chooses administrative/envrionment control misses out on his education? Our brilliant public education system can't think of anything more-effective? Because they don't have the money or don't want to spend money on kids with special needs, we just pummel kids into submission or ban them? Sounds just like what they're doing to ATVers in South Florida!   

[JackL]

So, you simply don't have the skills, patience, intelligence or resources necessary to deal with unruly kids. Why stop with paddling kids, why not get your same jollies by paddling rude or inconsiderate adults, traffic offenders, law-breakers, cheating spouses, tax-cheaters, athletes who commit sporting infractions, etc.? Hell, why stop there, impose Taliban law!

Some kids need an azz whippin, that is just how it is.


You have to admit, if we brought back public executions, televised cainings and perhaps an 'over 21 sex offender castration show' we would see a rapid drop in these sorts of crimes.

The PPV revenue from Old Sparky alone could solve our budget crisis.

[Able]

Some kids need an azz whippin, that is just how it is.


You have to admit, if we brought back public executions, televised cainings and perhaps an 'over 21 sex offender castration show' we would see a rapid drop in these sorts of crimes.

The PPV revenue from Old Sparky alone could solve our budget crisis.

I'm for all of the above. No more therapy for people that can't be helped. Get rid of them before they irreparably harm or kill another innocent person.

As for corporal punishment in schools...... It's not the most effective method from a behavior modification stance, but under the constraints and in the interest of the kids there to get their education it's better than letting a few bad apples spoil the bunch. It gives them a chance to understand the consequences of their actions and make a decision to change or reap the benefits of what they decide to do.
I agree that it wouldn't be so much of an issue if parents would discipline their kids and make sure they know how to behave. With proper parenting we wouldn't have more than a few instances of paddling in schools. Face it, kids will be kids and part of growing up is making mistakes and learning from them. 

[AintSkeered]

Let's paddle anyone how diagrees with us, too!

[yunt2ride]

So, the child who chooses corporal punishment gets to stay in school while the one who chooses administrative/envrionment control misses out on his education? Our brilliant public education system can't think of anything more-effective? Because they don't have the money or don't want to spend money on kids with special needs, we just pummel kids into submission or ban them? Sounds just like what they're doing to ATVers in South Florida!   

Its not that there is a choice, I asure you the child would choose anything but a paddling, but there are consequences to your actions just like there are fines and punishment when you grow up and become an adult. Its called discipline. You violate a law and then you are fined accordingly. Should we not teach our children at an early age. You teach them that they can do as they want as a child, they think its ok to violate the laws when they are older. Thats why there is so much crime in this world. People not paying for their actions. Most of the problems start at home with parents letting their kids do as they please and protecting them when they do wrong. I will protect my child as long as I live (rather they are right or wrong), but they know if they do something wrong then there will be consequences to their actions.

[Keeter]

Does paddling make us more or less civilized?

[Able]

Does paddling make us more or less civilized?

More. Paddling as behavior modification is crude at best, but the fact that we are willing to engage in what ever is needed to address the problem behaviors in pursuit of a more productive, more functional society shows it's just the implementation of a necessary tool to obtain that civilization.

I know there are more effective methods of modifying behaviors than presenting a positive punishment in the form of paddling, but to implement it would mean depriving the students with appropriate behaviors of much needed resources, attention, and leave them in a less stable environment that would further impare their education. We do what we must in such situations. If the parents would take part and make sure their kids are well behaved, held responsible for their actions and respect authority we could keep out teachers teaching instead of trying to dole out punishments to make sure the on task children can focus on their education.

In short paddling is a necessary evil.

[AintSkeered]

If paddling is so effective(vs. other methods), why aren't we imposing it upon adults? When adults violate society's rules, we've managed to find ways to impose consequences other than paddling, right? If an adult fails to appropriately respond to the consequences, those consequences escalate to incarceration. Why is it any different for children? For example, there's currently a teenager(15 y.o.) awaiting trial as an adult because he murdered his girlfriend. Was he paddled? Who knows and who cares!

[eldiablo64]

there are way to many parents that little johnny is a perfect angel when in fact little johnny is a littla a**hole thats always been spared the rod so to speak.paddling should be aloud in school.if the parents would do it at home then it most likely wouldn't have to be done in school.time out or detention does not work.believe me I had my share of whippins at home and was taught right from wrong by my parents.

[k.p.]

A spanking never hurt any kid. A beating, thats different, but kids are not created equal and what works for one does not always work for the others.
Parents are really soft in America anymore and the kids are the ones who end up suffering for their parents lack of discipline.
My parents told the principle to spank if needed. It was needed only once. 
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lol my dad wasnt soft. i got beat when i did somethin wrong.
im 16 but i agree, some kids need a good paddlin. then maybe by the time the git to highschool then the real world, they wont be F ups

[AintSkeered]

Go Daddy, go!

[RTR_380/450R]

Someone paddles my son or daughter and I will rip off their legs and beat them with one of them and shove the other one up their a s s!
Straight up no kidding, for real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me know whats going on and I will take care of it myself.
Its not that I dont think that it should necessarily be that way, its just that I definately dont trust someone else to do it. You never know what the hell is running through these peoples minds when they do it, or even if they know how to do it without hurting the child. I dont want someone that I dont know, trust, or have even given permission to spank my child.

I will wear their a s s out though! 
Me. Nobody else.

How about this one though. Lets say they call you to the school and give you the low down on the completely retarded thing that your child has done. (Lord knows they do the dumbest things!)
So, you ask the principle to please leave the office while I talk to my Son or Daughter. While he is out of the office, You completely wear their butt out and give them one for the ages. I BET THEY CALL CHILD SERVICES ON YOU!
Or your child gets a spanking from you at home and comes back and tells the principle that "my daddy beat the crap out of me".  I BET THEY CALL CHILD SERVICES ON YOU!

Hippocritical, dont you think?

I would have rather got the paddling myself, but my mom wouldnt allow it. She got the phone call every time. Which sucked HUGE!
I remember one time when I was "naughty". I was in the 9th grade and my mom came to school and sat with me every class for 2 days. Most embarrasing thing ever. Still going through therapy on that one.
I wish I would have just got a spanking or paddling!
jt

[Keeter]

Let me know whats going on and I will take care of it myself.

That is the problem, not enough parents do this.

[yunt2ride]

If paddling is so effective(vs. other methods), why aren't we imposing it upon adults? When adults violate society's rules, we've managed to find ways to impose consequences other than paddling, right? If an adult fails to appropriately respond to the consequences, those consequences escalate to incarceration. Why is it any different for children? For example, there's currently a teenager(15 y.o.) awaiting trial as an adult because he murdered his girlfriend. Was he paddled? Who knows and who cares!

There are consequences other then paddling for adults because its kind of hard to paddle an adult, don't you think. The consequenses are incarceration. Maybe you would like your child to be incarcerated when he does something wrong and not be at school getting an education but for me, I had rather mine be getting an education. Thats why I said for the parent who wouldn't let his child take a paddling may need to be at home with his unruly parents for several days and see if that works.

[yunt2ride]

Someone paddles my son or daughter and I will rip off their legs and beat them with one of them and shove the other one up their a s s!
Straight up no kidding, for real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me know whats going on and I will take care of it myself.
Its not that I dont think that it should necessarily be that way, its just that I definately dont trust someone else to do it. You never know what the hell is running through these peoples minds when they do it, or even if they know how to do it without hurting the child. I dont want someone that I dont know, trust, or have even given permission to spank my child.

If you don't trust them to paddle your child then you best not trust them to teach your child and need to homeschool them. Evidently you don't listen to the news because teachers are having sex with kids all the time from school. There are plenty of perverted and violant kids in school because parents teach it to them at HOME. Now, should I go on and mention the drugs and shootings? And now the schools have to have police officers at school during school hours and there was never an officer at school when I went to school. Now how is that for trust.   

[unforgiven]

all i know is most parents now days are a joke. can you imagine telling your parents NO to their face when we were kids.i have a lot of teenagers who live on my street and i never even seen one mow their yard.their single moms are mowing it after they get home from work while their fat lazy kids aint doing chet! sure i partied  hard when i was a teenager but not until all the chores were done.shoot now that i think about it i cant remember the last time i saw a kid doing a chore around their parents house.....keep being your kids "best friend" but have the bail money ready.its really just so pathetic.......i can see where QT is coming from.my parents were more strict on me than any of my friends parents and i was the only one of my friends that never got arrested or ended up in rehab,knock on wood ,you do the math.

[mudnuri]

Flipping through the channels last night, I came upon "Super Nanny." OMG did those kids need a beating. Not a spanking or a paddling. No. A beating several times a day!! I thought the nanny lady was going to do it! These boys cussed, kicked, punched, spat,  threw things, and bit...their father! He was such a wussy and the kids were a direct result of poor parenting. They love their kids, but that is different from being a good parent.
Let the beatings begin!!
Seriously, my parents did not spare the rod nor the staff. My dad added the boot. I still wound up in trouble, so I don't know if it works or not?

[trx#9]

I'm still waiting for a kid section in restaurants, if not a paddling section were I can beat the parents ass and then paddle there devil child's ass too.

[JackL]

If paddling is so effective(vs. other methods), why aren't we imposing it upon adults? When adults violate society's rules, we've managed to find ways to impose consequences other than paddling, right? If an adult fails to appropriately respond to the consequences, those consequences escalate to incarceration. Why is it any different for children? For example, there's currently a teenager(15 y.o.) awaiting trial as an adult because he murdered his girlfriend. Was he paddled? Who knows and who cares!

A paddle is ineffective on adults, that is why I suggested a caining or bull whipping for those guys, preferably televised. Prison has become a vacation for criminals and is no deterrent what so ever.

[yunt2ride]

If paddling is so effective(vs. other methods), why aren't we imposing it upon adults? When adults violate society's rules, we've managed to find ways to impose consequences other than paddling, right? If an adult fails to appropriately respond to the consequences, those consequences escalate to incarceration. Why is it any different for children? For example, there's currently a teenager(15 y.o.) awaiting trial as an adult because he murdered his girlfriend. Was he paddled? Who knows and who cares!

A paddle is ineffective on adults, that is why I suggested a caining or bull whipping for those guys, preferably televised. Prison has become a vacation for criminals and is no deterrent what so ever.

[Able]

I'm still waiting for a kid section in restaurants, if not a paddling section were I can beat the parents ass and then paddle there devil child's ass too.

 you sound like QT 

[RTR_380/450R]

Someone paddles my son or daughter and I will rip off their legs and beat them with one of them and shove the other one up their a s s!
Straight up no kidding, for real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me know whats going on and I will take care of it myself.
Its not that I dont think that it should necessarily be that way, its just that I definately dont trust someone else to do it. You never know what the hell is running through these peoples minds when they do it, or even if they know how to do it without hurting the child. I dont want someone that I dont know, trust, or have even given permission to spank my child.

If you don't trust them to paddle your child then you best not trust them to teach your child and need to homeschool them. Evidently you don't listen to the news because teachers are having sex with kids all the time from school. There are plenty of perverted and violant kids in school because parents teach it to them at HOME. Now, should I go on and mention the drugs and shootings? And now the schools have to have police officers at school during school hours and there was never an officer at school when I went to school. Now how is that for trust.   

Trusting someone to teach my child and trusting someone to swing hickory at them are two different things.
As far as trust in people in "GENERAL", I give them trust with limitations and bounderies.
Teachers having sex with students is obviously a very bad thing, but does not fall into the general trust guidelines as it pertains to the education of my children.
HELL NO, i dont trust them beyond that. Of course, that is why I am constantly communciating with my children on matters of that subject. But you are definitely right about one thing- These children are usually results of bad parenting. OR, a result of a good parent not knowing how to properly prepare their children for these things.

Either way, Nobody is paddling my child. I just cant see someone taking that into their own hands.

Put them on a "chain gang" at school where they have to do hard physical and degrading work while wearing bright orange jumpsuits in front on the rest of the school. That would do it for me.

[trx#9]

I'm still waiting for a kid section in restaurants, if not a paddling section were I can beat the parents ass and then paddle there devil child's ass too.

 you sound like QT 

I think were on the same page.

[yunt2ride]

Put them on a "chain gang" at school where they have to do hard physical and degrading work while wearing bright orange jumpsuits in front on the rest of the school. That would do it for me.

Now, that would be just inhumane. I like it, but the liberals just would not allow that. We can't embarrass children by no means, that would effect them their whole entire life. So paddling is what needs to be done. Its over quick and has a memorable effect. Trust me, I can tell you every paddling I got in school. And theres a difference between a paddling and a beating, I don't believe in beatings and parents smacking their kids around. If you can't smack them on their behind, then don't smack them at all.

[RTR_380/450R]

Put them on a "chain gang" at school where they have to do hard physical and degrading work while wearing bright orange jumpsuits in front on the rest of the school. That would do it for me.

Now, that would be just inhumane. I like it, but the liberals just would not allow that. We can't embarrass children by no means, that would effect them their whole entire life. So paddling is what needs to be done. Its over quick and has a memorable effect. Trust me, I can tell you every paddling I got in school. And theres a difference between a paddling and a beating, I don't believe in beatings and parents smacking their kids around. If you can't smack them on their behind, then don't smack them at all.

I agree somewhat about the inhumane part. I dont like to, but I do.
NO beating them, but I do like to grab them by the nape of their neck sometimes.
Lead them around like little lambs, while they stand on their tippy toes.
My grandmother used to walk me around by the hair on the back of my neck.
Didnt do any damage, just hurt like freakin' crazy!!