throttle body spacer

[backwoods boy]

i cant find a throttle body spacer for a 1995 camaro w/ the 3400 v6 HELPPPPP also has anyone used a throttle body spacer and a cold air intake and combined what kinda mpg and hp gains should i get

[trey82]

Save your money. It wont make a difference.

[svtbolt04]

Save your money. It wont make a difference.

Troof!

[Chevy1500z71]

you guys gotta understand what a TB spacer does, if your car is TBI than it will help because its actually giving the fuel and air more room to atomize, but if its a multi port car than it wont do anything because your intake is dry meaning the fuel is injected after the throttle body so it makes absolutely no difference. TBI means throttle body injection meaning the fuel is injected at the throttle body sorta like a carb if you can think of it like that incase you didn't know...

[exrider]

You should be more worried about how much the electronic egr valves cost. I bought 4 in 6 years!

[Chevy1500z71]

egrs are a joke, take it off and tune for it and you will get better performance and better gas mileage, same thing goes for cats. emissions crap sucks. and we are lucky Florida doesn't test our emissions so we can get away with it.

i would never pay to replace an egr valve, your money is much better spent getting the tunning stuff to turn off the egr function

[backwoods boy]

what do i have to have tuned to take it off and will a shop do it

[Chevy1500z71]

shop wont do it its just as eligal as taking your cat off but its nothin you will ever get a ticket for or anything just a place wont do it. you can do it yourself, depending on your car im not sure what it takes(chip burning or real time emulation), probably as simple buying a few chips from www.moates.com and burn them, the softwere is free its realy mainly for performance tuning but it allows you to disable functions like egr and such so thats all you would need it for if your actualy interested pm me and i can give you a ton of info how to do it yourself tell me what kinda car your dealing with i only know about gm... its normaly something everybody runs into after they put a set of headers on with no provisions for the egr...

[Anoriginal]

you guys gotta understand what a TB spacer does, if your car is TBI than it will help because its actually giving the fuel and air more room to atomize, but if its a multi port car than it wont do anything because your intake is dry meaning the fuel is injected after the throttle body so it makes absolutely no difference. TBI means throttle body injection meaning the fuel is injected at the throttle body sorta like a carb if you can think of it like that incase you didn't know...

Hey, Kawasaki400racer, you're completely wrong.  Not busting on you but you are off base on this one.

A TB spacer works on the same principal as any phelonic spacer. It increases runner length, and therefore some velocity to the intake and, depending on the placement, material and size, can cool the air charge a few degrees. Same theory as a GT40 or Trick Flow type intake on a sb ford motor. The Chevy is no different. In fact, many companies make a phelonic spacer that goes between the upper and lower intakes on split designs. (And yeah, these are all {as kawasaki400racer says} "dry" intakes).

I used to run a 1 3/4" phelonic spacer on several split sb ford intakes, including a GT40, Cobra, Trick Flow and PBF Breadbox. Definitely changed the attitude of the throttle response depending on what I was doing at the time with the motors. The spacer I ran came from Wilson Manifolds and were made of a carbon fiber/poly material that was machined for the specific type of intake. MPS in Georgia used to carry them for the Ford crowd. I am not sure about your particular application though.

Changes are, you will see absolutely zero change in mileage or hp on a stock v6 car though and you're better off saving your money for something else.

With respect to your EGR, be careful there too. Depending on the Fuel Injection system, the EGR can be an integral part. Kawasaki400racer is right in that you can definitely tune around it. However, an EGR is like any other sensor point in a fuel injection system. Keep it as a monitoring point but do away with the function for any other purpose. Simply removing it without making sure you've handled the contingencies isn't suggested.