Golf Course Riding

[predatorracer8]

lol ID@ i need some popcorn. Or some beers if were gona see who can pee further.

John i have to tell you "case law" trumps all.  You statement that the statute can be read in many different ways is correct ... that is where case law comes into play and get you. Either way you look at it if you warned once the second time will be a ticket or arrest. If not for trespassing (which it can be if the land owners gave the police the right to issue trespass warrants) or disturbing the peace (bike being loud, even if it isn't the neighbors complained) Either way it just doesn't seam worth it.

In addition you made the statement of living in a neighborhood of sever judges and congressman so again as Matt said

Thanks for making the rest of us look bad!

i always disagree with the saying "thanks for making us all look bad" i understand it is illegal but do you really think this is wat makes them close our areas... in my opinion no, all they care about is the birds and watever else lives out there is gonna die or fire's are gonna get started because of us. i dont think this will change alot of things. if anything the judges and congress men would open up more areas so they dont have to have quads making noise and tearing up the local golf course.

jake

and if you come up with some incredibly intelligent sounding speech anoriginal i wont be able to match that lol

[greenmachine]

32 posts & this is how you introduce yourself.

I only have one question......what does the "qr" in your screen name stand for?

Is it short or abbreviated for something?
IMHO you should get a ban for bragging about trespassing on a golf course on the open forum.
Thanks for making quads look bad, pal.

[Anoriginal]

Jake:

I understand where you're coming from and the frustration that goes along with the constant loss of places to ride. However, the point being made here is that when you knowingly ride in an area that isn't legal and you're upsetting people in the process, it's bad PR for the ATV community.

The more we take advantage of opportunities to make ourselves look like law abiding intelligent  and concerned individuals, the more seriously our cries for legal riding areas will be taken. The recent loss of the Holeylands is a prime example. While there were countless ATV riders that properly respected the privilege of riding out there, too many people abused it. So, when push came to shove, we lost the area. Along the way, more and more people capable of providing us with places to ride (like the FWC) dug further into their opinion that the ATV community isn't anything more than a problem for them.

I am with you all the way on the loss of places to ride. It's just all the more reason not to ride illegally or at a minimum in a manner that offends. I know it can be tough but, for the sake of all of us, we've got to do things right.   


~ Matt

[predatorracer8]

Jake:

I understand where you're coming from and the frustration that goes along with the constant loss of places to ride. However, the point being made here is that when you knowingly ride in an area that isn't legal and you're upsetting people in the process, it's bad PR for the ATV community.

The more we take advantage of opportunities to make ourselves look like law abiding intelligent  and concerned individuals, the more seriously our cries for legal riding areas will be taken. The recent loss of the Holeylands is a prime example. While there were coutless ATV riders that properly respected the privilege of riding out there, too many people abused it. So, when puch came to shove, we lost the area. Along the way, more and more people capable of providing us with places to ride (like the FWC) dug further into their opinion that the ATV community isn't anything more than a problem for them.

I am with you all the way on the loss of places to ride. It's just all the more reason not to ride illegally or at a minimum in a manner that offends.

~ Matt

agreed

[Ida_Mann]

someone is just itching to get back on this thread and reply, but after saying they were done with it doesn't want to.....

it's allright sir, come on back.

I see you watching.......

Id@ sits back with popcorn since there's two hours till class and nothing to do......

[dj_pizzim]

lol ID@ i need some popcorn. Or some beers if were gona see who can pee further.

John i have to tell you "case law" trumps all.  You statement that the statute can be read in many different ways is correct ... that is where case law comes into play and get you. Either way you look at it if you warned once the second time will be a ticket or arrest. If not for trespassing (which it can be if the land owners gave the police the right to issue trespass warrants) or disturbing the peace (bike being loud, even if it isn't the neighbors complained) Either way it just doesn't seam worth it.

In addition you made the statement of living in a neighborhood of sever judges and congressman so again as Matt said

Thanks for making the rest of us look bad!

i always disagree with the saying "thanks for making us all look bad" i understand it is illegal but do you really think this is wat makes them close our areas... in my opinion no, all they care about is the birds and watever else lives out there is gonna die or fire's are gonna get started because of us. i dont think this will change alot of things. if anything the judges and congress men would open up more areas so they dont have to have quads making noise and tearing up the local golf course.

jake

and if you come up with some incredibly intelligent sounding speech anoriginal i wont be able to match that lol

Yes that is exactly why they become biased because they have to deal with people riding illegally (not caring about rules or laws) thus needing to enforce more rules and laws upon us to control the uncontrollable.

In a further point "closing our riding areas" most of the "riding areas" they are closing were never legal riding areas (or designated ATV/dirtbike riding ares) in the fist place

[greenmachine]

 
Dang it Matt, you beat me to it. Your last post had puch instead of push & I was all over it before lt450qr could get to it & you modified it right before I clicked the post button

[greenmachine]

Your messing with 1996 play girl man of the year!

That was a great photoshoot you did Matt. I haven't looked at my copy of that issue in a while because the pages are all stuck together.

Seriousley though, why would you have a copy of Playgirl with Matt in it & why in the world would the pages be stuck together?
Shogun, man you are freaking us out.

[Anoriginal]

Dang it Matt, you beat me to it. Your last post had puch instead of push & I was all over it before lt450qr could get to it & you modified it right before I clicked the post button

Ha ha ha! That's funny right there, I don't care who you are. Isn't puch some kind of cheap moped?

[backinsaddle]

Matt, I think you're wasting your time with this person.  Ask around a few people that are familiar with him from the SSQSA series.  I think you'll find his reputation speaks for itself.

[Anoriginal]

Matt, I think you're wasting your time with this person.  Ask around a few people that are familiar with him from the SSQSA series.  I think you'll find his reputation speaks for itself.

Thanks man. Not sure what's wrong with this guy. It's a shame we have these types of people in our ranks.

[Ida_Mann]

AWW  he isn't  watching anymore

Id@

[shogun323]

Seriousley though, why would you have a copy of Playgirl with Matt in it & why in the world would the pages be stuck together?
Shogun, man you are freaking us out.

Ok the truth is I bought the playgirl issue with Matt because the store was out the latest publication of my favorite Gay Black Midget Porn mag.

[greenmachine]

Seriousley though, why would you have a copy of Playgirl with Matt in it & why in the world would the pages be stuck together?
Shogun, man you are freaking us out.

Ok the truth is I bought the playgirl issue with Matt because the store was out the latest publication of my favorite Gay Black Midget Porn mag.

Oh, ok ........