Amp Extreme SSQSA Race

[Gunnslinger]

First things first-
      What a great Place to spend the weekend,we were there in good numbers and we all had fun.The owners of the track were dare i say as fun as the owner of L-Cross(They made the weekend so much more fun.I would also like to say that the turn out was great and thanks to all of the racers who took the time to show up and help make this a great weekend.I would also like to say that Bret and company did a great job getting things going and making them run smooth and the owners of the track for making it possible to do so.
      For the people who did not make it or have not been to this track-YOU MISSED OUT!!!!!-this place is great and very QUAD FRIENDLY.The owners gave us our fair share and did not short at all..
      Also want to send a Big Thanks to Matt Bremmer(hope you are feeling better),Jason and Don(Blue Rock Racing) for working on the track and providing the equipment to get this track ready last week before we all got there-GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      So for those of you who did not guess,this is a great track(BEST IN FLORIDA from this angle)and we had a great time,Alot of great racing-some cool surprises and some awsome finishes....

Thanks to Amp Extreme for providing a great track and atmosphere for a great weekend................
Toby
#53's Dad

[pk250]

i must agree, by far floridas premier track in my opinion,the layout was relly great and the people that own , run, and helped put this place together are top notch,and yes if you didnot make it you missed out,anf for anybody doubting if they could pull off a flawless first weekend? they did it right out of the box from the people at the gate knowing what everything cost and included to being able to get with track owners on a personal level , this will be a great destination.   pat cullaton

[BIGWORM3699 ( ECP RACING)]

I agree GREAT place had a blast and the number of quads was huge. Great people that run Amp cant ask for more.

[RTN]

+1

We had a great time

I could see a nationals at this track in the future

Tom
#12's dad

[pk250]

ya never know

[racingbroke]

Hats off to the track - what a great time and a great place.  My kid has never said she "loved" a track before this one.  We'll be back for sure.  Ditto what Toby said for the track owners and everyone who helped make this event a great one.   

For anyone who missed this one, come out to the Fall Series and check it out.

Yolonda
#19's mom

[jman 31]

We really enjoyed having everyone this weekend. Brett put his faith in us to produce a great track and we did every thing we could to live up to his expectations. Everyone was great and patient with us rookies, and we learned a lot.

Thanks for the great comments and we hope to see you again in January. Oh and bring a friend!

Jeremy Ulmer
AMP Xtreme

[quadsonly4]

Thanks Jeremy for everything you did all week long.  Matt had a great time helping you get the track ready for the weekend.  He got lots of seat time before the race and not much during the race.  He is feeling much better today.  He will be ready for practice on Tuesday night.  Thanks to Don Blue for all his help with his equipment and manpower.  I would love to see AMP Xtreme on the schedule more than once.  It needs to take the place of at least two other tracks.  With a track and track owners like that, we don't need to go to tiny little tracks or tracks that quit us.  Just my opinion.  Thanks again Jeremy and all your staff.

[BlingstarHonda130]

yea track was great!!  i liked it alot  gave you a little bit of everything

thanks for a great track!!!

[ATOMCRF450]

It was a great weekend...are there any pictures?

[BlingstarHonda130]

anyone see the guy on the back of the truck video taping everyone leaving the track???  wounder what he was doing?

[A.T.P. RACING]

I must say that the track and the race program was TOP NOTCH.

This was one of the best weekends we have had out in a long time.

Our group will defiantly be making many more trips up to AMP for testing.

Hats off to Brett for all the hard work he has done in trying to give us a place to race.

Everyone, please keep up the support for the SSQSA, and support your local tracks and let them know that you
appreciate them letting us use there facilities. I believe that our sport of ATV Racing in Florida has a great
future instore.

Mike Walker
ATP Racing Engines

[Hondarider22]

awesome weekend! the track was a blast and the turn out seemed to be pretty good, hope everyone had as good of a time as i did, def was a good weekend for me  cant wait for the winter series to start

[#26YFZ]

Great track and great facilities all around.  I got one practice in before having some bike problems and out of shape body problems but atleast I was able to get a few pictures Saturday.  Sorry that I couldn't get back for the races sunday but I could barely get out of bed in the morning 











more coming in a second... problem uploading

[LostCause]

 

Thank you to everyone that showed up.  It is good to know how big our series can be. 

Thank you Don and Blue Rock Racing for helping with the track.

Thank you All from Amp.  Yall are a great group of guys that really understand what this sport is all about.  Good Luck with all the different projects that yall got going.

Thank you to Yolonda for all the help. 

There are sooooooo many people to thank but most of all I want to say thank you to all that have had the faith in this series and the grouth process that we are going through.  We really have something here.  Without all of the help and participation we wouldn't bee where we are now.

[ATOMCRF450]

Wow! Those picture are super clear...are there any more?

[Gunnslinger]

Congrats to all of the racers and winners:
Jake Gunn
T.C. Nales
Alan Molony
Matt Bremer
Chris Bowen
Alex K.
Sam Cheatham
Chris Williams
Ryan Ellis
Jeffrey Rastrelli and all the others that i did not mention,all was fun and put on some great races--Thanks to Matt Bremer and Don Blue for helping to put together a great track to race on once again...
Toby
#53's Dad

[#26YFZ]

Wow! Those picture are super clear...are there any more?

About 400... still trying to get them all up.

[310R_Dude]

Man O' man, that was a great freakin' weekend. Great weather, great track,
great people and racers... I could go on and on When I got to wOrk Monday
people asked "How was your weekend?". I just replied "Time of my life, for sho'!"

I just want to say thanks to EVERYONE involved.

Cyaaaaaaaaaaa's next time,
 - Dano

[ATOMCRF450]

Wow! Those picture are super clear...are there any more?

About 400... still trying to get them all up.

okcool... I can't wait.
Always nice to see pictures after the fact.
Thanks

[alger388]

I thought that the track was awsome myself. The folks who put the track together, and the guys that run the SSQSA are definately doing quite a good job. I talked to someone from the team, but i forgot his name and it was briefly. I brought a couple things to attention. This was my first SSQSA race this season, seeing i moved here from CT to attend MMI here in Orlando. I had some bike issues through the summer but i think she is good now. Its hard riding/racing on the college budget with bills and crap let me tell you. But besides that fact, i talked and mentioned that i heard there are a few "kids" running the big boys class. I heard number 13, on the black/black honda was only 12,13,or 14 years old riding a 450, actually a 490. Hats off to him for being able to run it, but i didn't see very much control and yea he did whoop my butt. He ended up passing me because he was knocking on my door and i felt actually threatened by him, because i felt he was alittle wild. Im not trying to start any fights here by any means. Maybe there was some in other classes idk. Like i said, im new to your community of riders.

I come from New England ATV, where back there we run the AMA rules and regulations. We have to buy AMA cards for the sanctioned tracks actually too. We are tear downs and stuff just like the ama national circuit. We are the biggest series next to the nationals, with about 300-500 riders in a weekend. We had to go to a two day event now since ive left because we would be ending when the sun goes down at night. We are talking 2-3 qualifiers for the C class, and sometimes 2 for the B class. No less than 20 riders per class.

Whoever i was talking to, it pisses me off i forgot his name, but i was talking to him about our series and stuff. He said he was adapting some of the things we do back home. I like seeing this. I also love the lower costs of the memberships and the class entry. Thats a hell of alot cheaper. Although the weekend went pretty damn well i must say, good control, kept things moving, and i liked that alot. I hope to see more from the fall/winter series. If the guys that run the SSQSA read this, i cdan get you in touch with Howard, the president of NEATV for further discussions and possible things. I believe if you guys try to bring out local shops and sponsors, it would help even more. We usually have Nacs, KandK, and a few other local shops back home selling things at the track to racers. Race fuel, goggles, tires, axles, whatever.

This series is heading in the right direction, im pretty pissed i have to miss the first one(ill be home for a few days for thanksgiving) but ill be back to run the others. Like i said, i didn't come in here trying to fight and start crap with anyone. Just trying to use alittle constructive critisism. If anyone has a problem, please reach me through a PM, i dont want to ruin a nice thread.

great track, great facility, and overall a great ass weekend and performance from almost everyone.

Thanks guys
Alger #388

[trx#9]

I thought that the track was awsome myself. The folks who put the track together, and the guys that run the SSQSA are definately doing quite a good job. I talked to someone from the team, but i forgot his name and it was briefly. I brought a couple things to attention. This was my first SSQSA race this season, seeing i moved here from CT to attend MMI here in Orlando. I had some bike issues through the summer but i think she is good now. Its hard riding/racing on the college budget with bills and crap let me tell you. But besides that fact, i talked and mentioned that i heard there are a few "kids" running the big boys class. I heard number 13, on the black/black honda was only 12,13,or 14 years old riding a 450, actually a 490. Hats off to him for being able to run it, but i didn't see very much control and yea he did whoop my butt. He ended up passing me because he was knocking on my door and i felt actually threatened by him, because i felt he was alittle wild. Im not trying to start any fights here by any means. Maybe there was some in other classes idk. Like i said, im new to your community of riders.

[R450_Chick]

[/quote]

I thought that the track was awsome myself. The folks who put the track together, and the guys that run the SSQSA are definately doing quite a good job. I talked to someone from the team, but i forgot his name and it was briefly. I brought a couple things to attention. This was my first SSQSA race this season, seeing i moved here from CT to attend MMI here in Orlando. I had some bike issues through the summer but i think she is good now. Its hard riding/racing on the college budget with bills and crap let me tell you. But besides that fact, i talked and mentioned that i heard there are a few "kids" running the big boys class. I heard number 13, on the black/black honda was only 12,13,or 14 years old riding a 450, actually a 490. Hats off to him for being able to run it, but i didn't see very much control and yea he did whoop my butt. He ended up passing me because he was knocking on my door and i felt actually threatened by him, because i felt he was alittle wild. Im not trying to start any fights here by any means. Maybe there was some in other classes idk. Like i said, im new to your community of riders.

   I'd have to agree with you on a 12-15 year old being on a 450cc+ bike.  I've gotten in a very bad accident due to racing a 14 year old on a 450.  The only way to stay away from the younings on the big bikes is to run the age class  .  Which in my opinion isn't the answer.  I think the series is growing, but I think a few things would help it.  I beleive safety should be a top concern.  Tech inspections aren't even being performed anymore at the races.  Here is the official "rules" from SSQSA website
 ** 16 years of age is recommended for all persons riding the A, B, C, Women, Stock, and 2 Stroke classes.  However,  under the discretion of the tech inspection director, a rider that is 14 or 15 may participate in these classes if they can show the following:

     a)  Must be able to turn the handlebars in both directions while seated and keep their hands on the bars.

     b)  While standing their must be 4 inches between the seat and the body of the rider.

     c)  Must appear to have the strength and size to handle the machine.

I think these are a little vauge and don't justify every young fast kid to be on a big bike.  Don't get me wrong...there's young guys out there that have been riding for awhile and deffinately know how to handle the big bike!  But may be SSQSA can take something from our neighboring SEQuads series....this is what their rules say about kids under 16 on big bikes......

Expert: Riders must be 16 years or older to participate in this class.

A: no restrictions on quad, rider must be 16 years of age or older

B: no restrictions on quad, rider must be 15 years of age or older

C: no restrictions on quad, rider must be 14 years of age or older

Sorry for the long drawn out response....just wanted to share all that stuff.  I don't want to tick anyone off, just my opinion.  I think the series is growing and it needs all the help it can get.

~Em~

[racingbroke]

The age classes aren't the only classes that don't have younger riders in them.  There is the women's class.  I do understand your position, as I have an upcoming young rider. 

I would like to point out a couple of things.  You've got to look at this whole thing from a different perspective.  Yes, safety is huge.  And is on the top of everyone's mind.  But, we are in a catch 22.  Without the "numbers" (which means $$ to the track) we can't get the better, bigger tracks to even look at opening the gates for us.  Without the tracks, we can't get the numbers - so what do you do?  We don't have the "numbers" yet to support AMA type rules.  Especially when we have local tracks, with a lot of riders, not enforcing the same AMA type rules.  So, we'll grow this series from the local track level up as safely as we can and in baby steps.  It's a constant battle and hopefully, we'll be able to move toward classes like AMA one day as our numbers continue to grow.

Next, I'd like to say, you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.  If it concerns you that tech wasn't conducted at this race (which this is the only one that it hasn't) then get involved in the series and step up.  We can always use help.  It's up to us quad racers to make this thing work to get to the numbers we need to get (and KEEP) the big tracks on our schedule.  Even if you don't want to race, come out and support the series at practice. 

Yolonda

[Ellis#8]

WELL my Son IS 14 and RIDES  an ltr450 and has ridden a 450 since he was 12, has NEVER CRASHED ANYONE! So I do not feel he is no more of a danger than anyone else. It is unfair to judge a RIDER by HIS age and not his capabilities. SSQSA has looked into this issue thoroughly, and I feel that they have made the right decision, and are using guidelines to base the individuals qualification to control their atv. I know some adults with less abilities than some of the youths at our local track. In fact my son, at 14 is in the points lead for his division C, and it has been suggested that he be in B, yet I felt he needed to finish out the year in C. The top three in his class are under 16; the top three in B class are under 18; and yeah the top one in A class is 17. My question to you is why is it ok for someone under 16 to ride a 450 dirt bike, yet not a 450 quad? If I recall correctly, the only people who did crash this past weekend were 18.

[310R_Dude]

WELL my Son IS 14 and RIDES  an ltr450 and has ridden a 450 since he was 12, has NEVER CRASHED ANYONE! So I do not feel he is no more of a danger than anyone else. It is unfair to judge a RIDER by HIS age and not his capabilities. SSQSA has looked into this issue thoroughly, and I feel that they have made the right decision, and are using guidelines to base the individuals qualification to control their atv. I know some adults with less abilities than some of the youths at our local track. In fact my son, at 14 is in the points lead for his division C, and it has been suggested that he be in B, yet I felt he needed to finish out the year in C. The top three in his class are under 16; the top three in B class are under 18; and yeah the top one in A class is 17. My question to you is why is it ok for someone under 16 to ride a 450 dirt bike, yet not a 450 quad? If I recall correctly, the only people who did crash this past weekend were 18.

I(#39 on a blue yfz) rode with your son, and group at Durhamtown. He definitely rides very well and
in control. I saw him this past weekend and nothing changed, well... he might be faster now though

The racing this past W/E was awesome! I love that track.

 - Dan

[quadsonly4]

Not everyone that crashed this weekend was 18.  Matt is 17.  The SEQUADS age rule is pretty good.  I think letting the younger riders race a 450 is great.  It is up to the parents to see if their kids are riding over their heads.  If the parents don't, then the racers at the SSQSA will.  Rastrelli is a great example.  He is 14 and got 2nd in the 2nd money race and 3rd overall(only because Matt wrecked).  He has skills way above his age.  If he was a danger to himself or any other rider, then his Dad would be the first one to put him in a lower class, or the other A and money riders would ask him to step down.  Matt and Bowen feel very comfortable racing next to Rastrelli, but would not very comfortable racing next to some of the other 14 year olds.  That is why they race in the B or C class.

[R450_Chick]

The age classes aren't the only classes that don't have younger riders in them.  There is the women's class.  I do understand your position, as I have an upcoming young rider. 

I would like to point out a couple of things.  You've got to look at this whole thing from a different perspective.  Yes, safety is huge.  And is on the top of everyone's mind.  But, we are in a catch 22.  Without the "numbers" (which means $$ to the track) we can't get the better, bigger tracks to even look at opening the gates for us.  Without the tracks, we can't get the numbers - so what do you do?  We don't have the "numbers" yet to support AMA type rules.  Especially when we have local tracks, with a lot of riders, not enforcing the same AMA type rules.  So, we'll grow this series from the local track level up as safely as we can and in baby steps.  It's a constant battle and hopefully, we'll be able to move toward classes like AMA one day as our numbers continue to grow.

Next, I'd like to say, you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.  If it concerns you that tech wasn't conducted at this race (which this is the only one that it hasn't) then get involved in the series and step up.  We can always use help.  It's up to us quad racers to make this thing work to get to the numbers we need to get (and KEEP) the big tracks on our schedule.  Even if you don't want to race, come out and support the series at practice. 

Yolonda

WELL my Son IS 14 and RIDES  an ltr450 and has ridden a 450 since he was 12, has NEVER CRASHED ANYONE! So I do not feel he is no more of a danger than anyone else. It is unfair to judge a RIDER by HIS age and not his capabilities. SSQSA has looked into this issue thoroughly, and I feel that they have made the right decision, and are using guidelines to base the individuals qualification to control their atv. I know some adults with less abilities than some of the youths at our local track. In fact my son, at 14 is in the points lead for his division C, and it has been suggested that he be in B, yet I felt he needed to finish out the year in C. The top three in his class are under 16; the top three in B class are under 18; and yeah the top one in A class is 17. My question to you is why is it ok for someone under 16 to ride a 450 dirt bike, yet not a 450 quad? If I recall correctly, the only people who did crash this past weekend were 18.

OK!  I didn't mean to piss anyone off here but apparently you all are taken what I said the wrong way.  I never said anything about riders having to be 17 or 18!??!?!  And No, tech inspections have not been performed at EVERY race this season or last season.  once you start putting safety on the back burner....that is no way to help a series grow.  And I said the series needed help...I  know it needs to grow.  And I'd be willing to volunteer to help!  And I didn't say anything about enforcing ATVA, WPSA, or AMA rules.  If we were doing that, we would be running production classes and lose 50% of the riders running non-production bikes!  Further more...I think many of the young kids on 450's are more then capable of riding them!!!  If you look at the SEquads rules I was speaking of...no where does it say every class is 16+!   But it also does not leave a broad rule of "if the rider looks capable".  Who is to say that?  I know kids that you would think could never throw around a 450....but do it better then most 17 and 18 year olds!  By implementing clear cut rules you eliminate that question.  Also, if the parents of kids who SHOULD NOT be on big bikes dont take that responsibility it is putting everyone else in that class in danger!  And the ony way to MAKE SURE you are not running with kids on big bikes is to run the age class!  They do NOT enforce the womens rule of 16+.  I remeber when I used to have to bring 2 forms of ID to prove my age for womens class at other sanctioned races......but SSQSA does not enforce an age in the womens class!  But i'm sure this post is going to get more parents pissed off then seeing what i'm saying.  I just hope this series continues to grow, but safety does not get put on the side line.

[trx#9]

I have riding gear thats 14 years old and older. It's hot pink! I sure 310r_dude has some too. We need to have a throw back weekend.
 And don't make me pull out the 17 year old quad and spank the young ones too.

[310R_Dude]

I have riding gear thats 14 years old or older. It's hot pink! I'm sure 310r_dude has some too. We need to have a throw back weekend.
 And don't make me pull out the 17 year old quad and spank the young ones too.

Nahhhh... I got rid of ALL my old AXO aqua and pink gear!!!  But hey, if we are
gonna have a throw back W/E I need to get my "R" back together too

[LostCause]

I have been reading all the post and lettin things play out.

Thank you all for your post.  With things like this, it helps the Series grow in the right direction.

You are correct.  Tech was not done this weekend.  No excuse.  But they have been done at all the other races.  They have been done as you are going out for practice on Sunday morning.  I have a idea that will help with this problem.  Before you can sign up for the race you have to go through tech.  You will then get a ticket to show so you can sign up for the race.  But in doing this I need someone to do the tech.  I will need you on Sat. for 2 hrs and on Sun for 1.5 hrs.  This is where people will need to do the early sign up to help speed up the process Sunday Morning.

As far as the age thing goes.  All classes are monitored and everyone falls in the guidelines that we have implemented.  I do not understand how the guidelines are not clear.  Everyone interprets rules different. 

We have spent a great deal of time working on the rules for the next season.  Things are spelled out better.  We have tried to take some of the rules from other series and adjust them just a little.  I think everyone will be happy with them.

And since the age thing was brought up and compaired to SEQUADS  Don't they let the 13 year olds ride in the womens class with no restrictions on quad?

This discussion is good.  It will help us better our program.

What I would like is for the moderator to take this stuff and put it into a new thread.  Let the things about the Amp race stay in the original thread and the things to help our program grow be put into another.

Thanks
Brett

[LostCause]

I have riding gear thats 14 years old or older. It's hot pink! I'm sure 310r_dude has some too. We need to have a throw back weekend.
 And don't make me pull out the 17 year old quad and spank the young ones too.

Nahhhh... I got rid of ALL my old AXO aqua and pink gear!!!  But hey, if we are
gonna have a throw back W/E I need to get my "R" back together too

I have some of the old stuff too.  Can you believe we wore that stuff? 

[RTN]

Like Brett said........these discussions are good.

Brett is sincerely trying to make this series better. He wants it to grow bigger than some of you can imagine.

Input from riders and parents are what he needs to hash it out.

You as riders and we as parents have an opportunity to really blow this thing up.

 

[TBR]

I have riding gear thats 14 years old or older. It's hot pink! I'm sure 310r_dude has some too. We need to have a throw back weekend.
 And don't make me pull out the 17 year old quad and spank the young ones too.

Nahhhh... I got rid of ALL my old AXO aqua and pink gear!!!  But hey, if we are
gonna have a throw back W/E I need to get my "R" back together too

Neither one of you two could fit in your old jerseys.

The weekend was great. The races ran very very smooth and I just think all the people at AMP are 1st class. Great job.

This winter series will be the best yet as there will be some of the best in the nation competeing in several classes.

We all have to step up and help Brett with this series because as the series gets bigger, which it will, then he will need more help from all of us. Thanks Brett and Yolanda as you both have done so much for the rest of us.

The pic below of Quinton is why I want to see this series grow and be around for a long time. If he did not have this series he probably would be spending his time in front of a TV or computer instead of racing his quad. How could a 4 yr old be having any more fun than this?

[alger388]

I never meant to come in here with my post of the intention of pissing anyone off here. Im just simply asking questions as a new comer to you series and what not. I bought the year memebership to support. Im not sure how many races ill be doing the winter series, i hope all but 2 though. Im just trying to give some input and some resources out there coming from the biggest series besides the nationals.

And watch out, ive been talking to a few guys to come down here this winter for some racing i HOPE.

[310R_Dude]

I wouldn't worry too much about pissing people off on the forum's...
it happens. Now, if you are at the track and it happens well, that entirely
different. Forums have a bad habit of people misconstruing what is
actually meant from someones post rather than what really was intended.
The lack of vocal/tonal inflection is the problem of text only communication.

Sometimes NOT also though

Anyway, I met you and hung out for a little while Friday night. Seemed
okay to me

 - Dano