Following due process.--not so victorious after all

[buzzardman]

Well,  I have done what the police have told me to do for the due process which is our government.

I sent the cert letter to that business that stole my money and shock.   He signed it and with the date he signed it, he has three more days till I get to call the police again and make a complaint of felony theft.  Assuming the police want to do thier jobs, nothin will make me happier than sitting in a court room watching this thief explain himself to a judge. 

[TRX450R_Racer]

Good Luck!

[buzzardman]

thanks,

It's sad that if really depends on me finding a cop that wants to do his/her job.  You talk to one cop and they say just take it to civil court, then you talk to another and they tell you for sure it is a criminal act.  It seems as though it is just a matter of finding a ambitious cop that wants to do the job.   

Fortunately,  I have done some remodel work for a very high ranking pasco county sheriff's dept employee.  So when it comes time, I'm gonna be givin him a call.  Hopefully he will "hook a brotha up".

cjt

[Da_Mtg_Man]

If not them let me know. I've got several friends in LE down here in Pinellas that would be happy to get the ball rolling.

[buzzardman]

It has to be in pasco county for jurisdiction purposes.  Unless your pals live in Pinnellas and work for pasco?

[Da_Mtg_Man]

It has to be in pasco county for jurisdiction purposes.  Unless your pals live in Pinnellas and work for pasco?

They will know someone up there if they don't live there. Just let me know.

[Flat_Out]

thanks,


Fortunately,  I have done some remodel work for a very high ranking pasco county sheriff's dept employee.  So when it comes time, I'm gonna be givin him a call.  Hopefully he will "hook a brotha up".

Not sure what "hook a brotha up" means.  If there is probable cause to believe that a crime has occurred, then the deputy should forward a PCA to the States Attornies Office for review.  Pretty simple to do.  I hope that the deputies don't read this group and sees you bashing LEO's.

Good luck.

[buzzardman]

The "hook a brother up" was  referring to having the former client I did work for, give me some good direction to an officer that would handle the matter.  As far as "bashing" LEO's,  I don't feel I was Bashing.  Since I used to be an LEO I am fully aware of how they feel about this kind of case.  I didn't like handling them when I was policing and I was the Chief.  And yes, some LEO's let that dislike get the best of them and discourage the victim from filing a criminal complaint because they simply don't want to deal with it.  They push it off as a civil matter and forget about it.   

And yes, I would have to prove that this individual took my money with no intention of doing the work in order for a criminal theft complaint.   Since I have a basket of circumstantial information (evidence) from various other victims that this person has done the same thing to,  that should be a fair enough amount to argue a case like this to the attorney's office.  After all, this company (owner) currently resides in the community and continues to fraud people out of their money. But as I stated before, it is really up to just how ambitious the LEO and city/county attorney is towards this kind of Crime.
 

[CEC]

If It Comes To A Civil Matter You Might As Well Forget It. I Own A Business That Did Work And Didn't Get Paid. Went To Small Claims Court And Won A Judgement And The Guy Took His Name Off His Assets And Is Far As The Courts Go That Is It AS Far As Collecting On The Judgment. Now It's Time To Collect Florida Cracker Style

[buzzardman]

I guess the Certified letter with the threat of a felony woke this dude up.  I got home today and my fully rebuilt shock was sitting at my door step.   The wierd thing is that upon completion I was supposed to owe a final bill of $160.00.  There wasn't an invoice or anything along with the shock.  I'm wondering what to do about that.  Should I be the bigger man and send the money for the services or should I consider it a discount because it took four and half months and threat letters to get it done.  Anyone have advice on this one?

[Bigscrb15]

I guess the Certified letter with the threat of a felony woke this dude up.  I got home today and my fully rebuilt shock was sitting at my door step.   The wierd thing is that upon completion I was supposed to owe a final bill of $160.00.  There wasn't an invoice or anything along with the shock.  I'm wondering what to do about that.  Should I be the bigger man and send the money for the services or should I consider it a discount because it took four and half months and threat letters to get it done.  Anyone have advice on this one?

That's a hard one. If it was me, I would pay it because I agreed to pay for his services. However he did take forever, but obviously he is a hurting small business.

[Da_Mtg_Man]

How long did he tell you it would take originally? A couple weeks?
I wouldn't give him crap. He took almost 5 months? If anything he owes you back what you gave him up front. My .02

[yfz122]

Your time and frustration have to be worth something. That decision is all yours.

[Ida_Mann]

give him nothing and post on here that you tried to contact him asking how much you owe, but haven't heard anything yet ;-)

I would say honestly, try giving him a call, leave a message and ask how much you owe.

but only once,,,,leave it at that.

your mind is clear, you have the shock,,,done deal.

Id@

[TRX450R_Racer]

Congratulations!

No offense, but I think you would be an idiot if you gave him any more money. I wouldn't try to contact that dirtbag.

[renmus]

What would you think was right to do if you were in HIS position?


and for the record, I agree with Scrub.

[TRX450R_Racer]

After being jerked around like that. What I said is exactly what I would do.

[buzzardman]

I understand where your coming from but if I was in his position I wouldn't have taken someone's money and then gave them one lame excuse after another and refused to answer the phone or return messages for over 4 1/2 months.


I think what I'm gonna do is just sit tight.  If he mails me an invoice for the balance I will pay it that way I feel I did the right thing.  Of course it very well might take me 4 1/2 months to get that check mailed off to him.

If I don't hear from him with an invoice or a phone call then I will interpret it about like the rest of this whole ordeal in which I believe he really could care less about his business and therefore why should I.

[yunt2ride]

He gave you a price for a job that was supposed to take a certain time. Not only did he not do it in the time frame first discussed but he ignored that you even existed. It would have been one thing if he contacted you and told you that it was taking longer then expected but to not do anything. I wouldn't send him anything.

[Fox17]

im with Ida on this one.

[greenmachine]

If he did his job right as he said he would, you would have had your shock back months ago & been riding. You had to obviousley spend several hours of your time chasing this clown, then going to authorities, then putting together a letter & mailing it. Then you waited even longer.
I dont know about most of you guys on here, but my time is money. If he sends you an invoice, send him one for your time spent trying to recover YOUR property from him, including the phone calls, fuel to & from post office & document fees. By then it should all be a wash.
Even if you pay him the remainder, the money he will lose from screwing you around once it was posted on here is way more than the $160 you may owe.

[NYRAPTOR]

totally agree green machine. time is money.

[buzzardman]

Now I know why I didn't get an invoice.  I put the shock on today and sat on the bike. It felt good.  I changed the tranny fluid then took it for a quick spin.  I went down the street and back up,, about 200 yards total.  When I shut it off and looked down at my legs, there was shock oil all over them and the ground, and everywhere else.  It's back to just being springy again without any dampening.

I really wish I had the balls to take the shock and return it back to him via through his front window,.,

This whole experience has ruined the whole project for me.  I want out.   Somebody buy this bike from me real cheap and finish it.

cjt

[mrbones]

Man, that stinks. What year and model Kawa are we talking about here again?

[buzzardman]

1986 Kawasaki KX 250