raptor 660 vs 450r

[chris660]

well a friend of mine told me last weekend one of his boys wanted to race me, he has honda 450r, wit piston cam chip, fully built on stock crank, he got clocked at 91, so he says, i havnt clocked my bike yet,

well we raced last night out here on US-27 near Krome Ave, Miami, fl and he took off before me but w.e i caught up 3rd gear, and on 5th gear i was like 5 or 7 bikes infront of him n still pulling on him with easy....he got smoked just wanted 2 let everyone know  im running 15/39 dunno wat my speed is should be mid or high 90's

[dynodon]

First off a stock raptor isnt gonna hit the 90`s NO WAY in h#ll,
You may think it does, or it may feel like it. upper 70`s -maybe even low 80`s tops.

Second, Your real smart to come into an open forum and start talking about street racing on a hwy.. Peaple like you are the reason the rest of us responsible peaple lose places to ride.

 Just a little info for ya, there are several deputies on this site that are probably listening in to your "bragging" about your little street race.. DEE, DE, DEE ( Carlos Mencia)

[06 BaNsHeE]

My friends old 660 would loose to a stock 450r.All day and night.He didnt know how to drive back then tho.But he would loose pretty bad

[UncleRico]

A 450r will destroy a Yamaha. Trust me, I know.

In fact, the Honda is so fast that if you're not careful you may just travel back in time.

I know because I was dusting them up in Durhamtown all day long last time I was up there.

[450rcrazy]

well a friend of mine told me last weekend one of his boys wanted to race me, he has honda 450r, wit piston cam chip, fully built on stock crank, he got clocked at 91, so he says, i havnt clocked my bike yet,

well we raced last night out here on US-27 near Krome Ave, Miami, fl and he took off before me but w.e i caught up 3rd gear, and on 5th gear i was like 5 or 7 bikes infront of him n still pulling on him with easy....he got smoked just wanted 2 let everyone know  im running 15/39 dunno wat my speed is should be mid or high 90's

Obviously either your Friends buddy can't ride , or his bike is not running right , or your full of poo , possibly was a dream you were having that seemed real , or maybe the guy weighs 400 lbs , but in an equal match race of comparible bikes and riders the raptor will lose every time . I own one My friends have raptors I have raced them I have raced many raptors not been beat I am not saying its me but the bikes are built for two differant types of riding , Raptor has tons of bottom end and no top end , 450 has high rpm and top end power.

[Smoknbanshee]

WHAT THE F&CK EVER.  WHO CARES.  Put it on the track and post some time slips.  No time slips or video of radar gun, means BULL$HIT.  Have the evidence to back up the claims, then I will believe you.

[450rcrazy]

WHAT THE F&CK EVER.  WHO CARES.  Put it on the track and post some time slips.  No time slips or video of radar gun, means BULL$HIT.  Have the evidence to back up the claims, then I will believe you.

 

[Michael Bolton]

WHAT THE F&CK EVER.  WHO CARES.  Put it on the track and post some time slips.  No time slips or video of radar gun, means BULL$HIT.  Have the evidence to back up the claims, then I will believe you.

yeah yeah, we get it.... put up or shut up, green light drops bullshit stops, yadda yadda yadda, every other post your saying the same damn thing acting like a hardass. chill out, you dont even have a bike but know people with fast banshees, ok cool everyone has a damn banshee it makes me sick listening to them babble back and forth about whos banshee is faster, no my banshee is faster, urrhhh

[450rcrazy]

just found out he is on raptorforum too, and heres his mods.....

-102mm JE 11:1 piston
-stage 3 hotcam
-ferrera 1mm oversized racing valves
-kibble white heavy duty valve springs
-head is ported and polished
-full big gun exhaust
-K&N air filter no lid
-L&A one starter clutch
-sprockets 15/39
-dynatek ignition/rev box

i think we can all agree he was able to beat a little 450

-102mm JE 11:1 piston  - stock is higher on a 450
-stage 3 hotcam
-ferrera 1mm oversized racing valves   1mm= .039 of an inch barley  1/32
-kibble white heavy duty valve springs   the stronger the spring the more power it robs but higher rpm before valve float

-head is ported and polished   Ported good Polished bad , better to have swirl marks left to better atomize the fuel polishing causes fuel to form droplets

-full big gun exhaust One of the lowest performers out there
-K&N air filter no lid  who doesn't have this
-L&A one starter clutch does nothing for power
-sprockets 15/39  gives more top end speed but the bike will not rev out like a 450 will .stoke is to long
-dynatek ignition/rev box If the other guys bike is built he should have a ignition as well


I still say B.S.
I build performance engines and parts for drag racing for a living been doing it for 15 years I have a small clue how stuff works.

[UncleRico]

I'm the fastest ATV rider on all of the internets! If you don't believe me, I'll send you an official email.  That thing wouldn't do 90mph if you dropped it off a cliff.

[dynodon]

WHAT THE F&CK EVER.  WHO CARES.  Put it on the track and post some time slips.  No time slips or video of radar gun, means BULL$HIT.  Have the evidence to back up the claims, then I will believe you.

yeah yeah, we get it.... put up or shut up, green light drops bullshit stops, yadda yadda yadda, every other post your saying the same damn thing acting like a hardass. chill out, you dont even have a bike but know people with fast banshees, ok cool everyone has a damn banshee it makes me sick listening to them babble back and forth about whos banshee is faster, no my banshee is faster, urrhhh

Dont be a HATER !!!!! Atleast we have something to talk about, other than some gayazz 80`s video.
 Also if it makes you so sick, then stay the h#ll out of the racing forum.

[cutngrs]

WHAT THE F&CK EVER.  WHO CARES.  Put it on the track and post some time slips.  No time slips or video of radar gun, means BULL$HIT.  Have the evidence to back up the claims, then I will believe you.

yeah yeah, we get it.... put up or shut up, green light drops bullshit stops, yadda yadda yadda, every other post your saying the same damn thing acting like a hardass. chill out, you dont even have a bike but know people with fast banshees, ok cool everyone has a damn banshee it makes me sick listening to them babble back and forth about whos banshee is faster, no my banshee is faster, urrhhh

fisrt off you dont know sh*t smokedog is a hired jocky that rides for me and he can ride me bike any time he wants so shut the f**k up you gay ass little punk befor i biotch slap you

[dynodon]

  , Looks like youve been "Rick rolled"
 douche bag

[Chillinthemost]

Tell me just 1 place in this state where a race would involve speeds of 90 mph. We ride ATVs, they belong on dirt. There are no wide open deserts or dunes in Fl.  That craptor wont beat anyone on a MX track, a 300ft. drag track or on a fast XC track.

[predatorracer8]

yamahas suck i beat a 660 on my predator by a mile honda 450's no prob its all about polaris.

[UncleRico]

yamahas suck i beat a 660 on my predator by a mile honda 450's no prob its all about polaris.

Polaris, don't they make weed eaters? Or am I thinking of chainsaws?

Who would buy a Polaris ATV?

[dynodon]

I think Rico is thinking of Poulan brand?
 Now if you were talking sleds, I would buy another Polaris, BUT not an atv, The just dont have the technology for those yet. They are trying, but they arent as good as they are on the sleds

[O-so-fast]

It takes two hands to count the knobs on this thread.

[trx#9]

I don't think I've ever been in 5 gear on any of the mx tracks locally or nationally. Its like arguing who is better looking Scarlet Johanson or Pamala Anderson, I doesn't really matter because you'll never get a chance to get with them anyways.
Exception for UncleRico!

[UncleRico]

I don't think I've ever been in 5 gear on any of the mx tracks locally or nationally. Its like arguing who is better looking Scarlet Johanson or Pamala Anderson, I doesn't really matter because you'll never get a chance to get with them anyways.
Exception for UncleRico!

If you never use 5th gear, how do you go so fast? I mean, how do you win so many races? What's the secret?

Just for the record, the only way I would get with Pam Anderson and Scarlett Johansen is in some freaky three way, (because that's how Uncle Rico rolls)...and as I picture it in my head, there would be a little monkey in the room dressed in a bellhop's outfit playing the cymbals. Yeah..now that's the kind of party I want it to be.

Not for me, mind you, but I suspect those two chicks are FREAKY like that!

[UncleRico]

I think Rico is thinking of Poulan brand?
 Now if you were talking sleds, I would buy another Polaris, BUT not an atv, The just dont have the technology for those yet. They are trying, but they arent as good as they are on the sleds

No, I'm thinking Polaris...I imagine pulling the seat cover off and looking down at the top of the engine and seeing a piece of Nylon line spinning in place of a crankshaft.

Weed eaters!

I'm just messing with you man, I know Polaris reputation from SLEDPORN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yKqWnWbKeU

  <-- Check out the Polaris in this vid.

[trx#9]

I don't think I've ever been in 5 gear on any of the mx tracks locally or nationally. Its like arguing who is better looking Scarlet Johanson or Pamala Anderson, I doesn't really matter because you'll never get a chance to get with them anyways.
Exception for UncleRico!

If you never use 5th gear, how do you go so fast? I mean, how do you win so many races? What's the secret?

Just for the record, the only way I would get with Pam Anderson and Scarlett Johansen is in some freaky three way, (because that's how Uncle Rico rolls)...and as I picture it in my head, there would be a little monkey in the room dressed in a bellhop's outfit playing the cymbals. Yeah..now that's the kind of party I want it to be.

Not for me, mind you, but I suspect those two chicks are FREAKY like that!

I just remembered I track I'll get up and grab 5 gear. Waldo's straight away. I'm sorry I forgot, thats one long straight away!

[4fittyr]

450's fastest on the planet    enough said

[450rcrazy]

450's fastest on the planet    enough said

"102mm JE 11:1 piston  - stock is higher on a 450" stock size piston is also smaller on a 450, you cant compare stuff like that, with your way of thinking it would make sense to say - stock displacment is 450 on trx, stock for raptor is 660, so raptor automatically wins, it doesnt work like that. trx is a smaller motor but strung out to be a little faster than a 660 stock for stock, when you raise the compression, stg.3 cam, etc its like having a strung out big motor. im sure you know this since you build engines but when you say somthing like "102mm JE 11:1 piston  - stock is higher on a 450" it makes me wonder, its not like since the trx compression is still higher than the 660, the raptor will never have an advantage.

according to what chris660 says, the 450 only had a cam and piston, and his bike is ported, stg.3 cam borred .080 over, high comp piston, pipe, and bigger valves. if i was a betting man i would say knowing only those facts that the 660 would win in that race. you sound like your being very biased just because you own a honda, if i thought the 450 would win i would say so. and back to top speed, his raptor easily has the power to pull the 15-39 gearing and with that i know for sure his bike is capable of 90+ mph, why wouldnt it walk away from the 450 in top speed?

your flat out calling him a liar, be reasonable here and look at the facts

Its no use the guy is 18 and knows everything can't tell him $h!t. LOOK OUT PROSTOCK , AND FUNNY CAR LOOK OUT JOHN FORCE WE HAVE THE HUMAN DYNO HERE AND HE IS GONNA BLOW YOUR DOORS OFF.

[predatorracer8]

yamahas suck i beat a 660 on my predator by a mile honda 450's no prob its all about polaris.

Polaris, don't they make weed eaters? Or am I thinking of chainsaws?

Who would buy a Polaris ATV?

im pretty sure honda makes those right, my predator never breaks down unlike yamahas and is faster than them.