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Topic: ATV"s will now officially be "off-limits" on any SFWMD Levees. (Read 11686 times)
JackL
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Reply #25 on:
August 03, 2007, 06:50:22 AM »
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't we always been prohibited from SFWMD lands?
Doesn't this statement pretty much effectively make riding the new Collier park prohibited?
Why would these Holeylands/FWC rules change because of this?
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No motor vehicle shall be operated on any part of any wildlife and environmental area designated and posted as "CLOSED" because of inclement weather, poor road conditions, construction, management activities, or wildlife surveys.
No person shall park any vehicle in a manner that obstructs a road, gate, or firelane.
During archery, muzzleloading, and general gun-walk seasons, only ATVs are permitted for hunting. While an ATV is in motion, no person shall occupy any platform or structure attached to it. No ATV may be equipped with a steering mechanism that would enable the ATV to be operated from a platform or structure attached to it.
No person shall operate any ATV, motorized two-wheeled vehicle, or motorized three-wheeled vehicle unless it is equipped with an orange flag at least 10 inches wide and 12 inches long and displayed at a minimum height of 6 feet above the top of the seat.
The use or presence of vehicles on wildlife islands, tree islands or tree strands is prohibited.
All vehicles are prohibited from the end of the established duck and coot season through April 30. Airboats are allowed during this period.
Vehicles are prohibited on all levees except L-5 and Miami Canal levees.
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August 03, 2007, 07:18:25 AM »
Jack, the Collier park is on "leased" land from a company called ALICO. Once the New park opens up, which in my opinion is NEVER, Collier county would take the deed to this land.
Now for the second part, Holyland is land OWNED by SFWMD that is managed by FWC. That place is really a STA that allows hunting on it. SFWMD owns over 300,000 acres. They have land throughout 16 counties in the state. There's an OHV study being done right now in Miami-Dade county. About 2 to 3 weeks ago, 1 hour before the lands study was to come out, SFWMD called Parks and Rec and told them to remove all SFWMD lands as potential sites for an OHV park.
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August 03, 2007, 11:49:27 AM »
Quote from: lswjth2 on August 03, 2007, 07:18:25 AM
Jack, the Collier park is on "leased" land from a company called ALICO. Once the New park opens up, which in my opinion is NEVER, Collier county would take the deed to this land.
Now for the second part, Holyland is land OWNED by SFWMD that is managed by FWC. That place is really a STA that allows hunting on it. SFWMD owns over 300,000 acres. They have land throughout 16 counties in the state. There's an OHV study being done right now in Miami-Dade county. About 2 to 3 weeks ago, 1 hour before the lands study was to come out, SFWMD called Parks and Rec and told them to remove all SFWMD lands as potential sites for an OHV park.
I understand that and I am still absorbing that giant draft, but I already see some places folks REALLY care about a lot more in jeopardy than the Holeylands IMO, which would never be considered as an ATV park in the first place. I would be against that myself!
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August 03, 2007, 03:31:01 PM »
So no one really answered my question.
What is FWC doing about this? are they sitting at the levey and stopping everyone with atv's? are they even enforcing it?
I am riding tonight, I just don't know where I want to go just yet...chrome seems SWAMPED out!!!
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August 03, 2007, 03:42:33 PM »
The information i posted is based on the "Final Draft". It will be effective sometime this year until 2011. Once this becomes the "LAW" FWC will be/is the agency that SFMWD pays for enforcement.
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August 03, 2007, 06:27:58 PM »
For whatever it's worth, this rule is nothing new. If you go to the SFWMD website and work your way through the recreation section, you will eventually find a link to a 14 page document called "Recreation Rules." If you read through it, you will see that this rule has always been in place and was most recently updated in July of 2006. The key words are 'unless authorized elsewhere.' Look to the FWC Website and find the rules for the Holeylands/Rotenberger/Everglades WMAs and you will see exactly what JackL posted above, which means the L5 and Miami Levees are still legal to ride. There's your 'authorization elsewhere.'
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August 04, 2007, 12:46:10 AM »
So basically there is no difference from before?
From what I understand this is not a 'new' law. I highly doubt they will enforce this 100% either. Tahts a lot of man hours and a LOT of officers!!!! They would have to put at least 2 officers 24hrs a day...
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August 04, 2007, 04:17:39 PM »
not really if you are not suppose to be there and you are they dont have to look for you just tow your rig which will suck when you get back and that only takes 1 man then just wait for you by the road not sure if they can tow but just for thought what we need to do is start making calls I know you think a few letters but if everyone sent 5 just do the math and 5 -10 calls a day would fill thier lines all-day we need to come together not asking anyone to go out of thier way but make some calls to your commisioners and maybe send some letters to the governor and basically make noise at least I am
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August 04, 2007, 05:04:53 PM »
All of this just plain out SUCKS!!!!!!
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Quote from: Gato on August 04, 2007, 04:17:39 PM
not really if you are not suppose to be there and you are they dont have to look for you just tow your rig which will suck when you get back and that only takes 1 man then just wait for you by the road not sure if they can tow but just for thought what we need to do is start making calls I know you think a few letters but if everyone sent 5 just do the math and 5 -10 calls a day would fill thier lines all-day we need to come together not asking anyone to go out of thier way but make some calls to your commisioners and maybe send some letters to the governor and basically make noise at least I am
I could be wrong, but they can't tow your truck unless you are obstructing a roadway, iligally parked, or some of the other reasons.
I don't think 'bugging' the FWC will get them to open up the land.
I dunno, 4x4matt and his buddy are heading out there right now..we'll see what happens.
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August 04, 2007, 10:30:30 PM »
hello out there to all of you. I no alot of you don't care to much about me, and personally i don't care if you do or don't. i just got back from holylands, FWC was out there and did not say anything to my friend and I, or the 30 other people that where there. So i don't no who got the facts wrong on this thread, but they might wanna look into it a lil more before they scare all the people that sit on here and just post and don't ride and get all of there skirts ina bunch. Just to let you no i was out their rode (with no beer
) Not one thing was said to any of us so as of now i would say go out and enjoy it while you can, I no i will be so when you see me come say hi and maybe we can do a ride.
Are you all happy i think I did that post to all of you're liking
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August 04, 2007, 10:50:47 PM »
Matt, you are the man.
I'll be there bright and early!!!
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Re: ATV"s will now officially be "off-limits" on any SFWMD Levees.
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August 04, 2007, 10:51:30 PM »
New to this forum...I have never been to Holylands...Are there any facilities? Is overnight camping allowed? I have a toyhauler not sure if its worth the trip if you cant stay overnight.
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August 04, 2007, 11:38:25 PM »
Quote from: DOITHARD on August 04, 2007, 10:51:30 PM
New to this forum...I have never been to Holylands...Are there any facilities? Is overnight camping allowed? I have a toyhauler not sure if its worth the trip if you cant stay overnight.
It is pretty deep right now, so if you have sport quads..no. You can camp Fri, Sat and Sun. No facilities yet.
http://myfwc.com/recreation/holey_land/visitorinfo.asp
http://myfwc.com/recreation/holey_land/recreation.asp#Hunting
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August 04, 2007, 11:50:06 PM »
Thanks for the info...I'll check the place out in a couple of wks.
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August 04, 2007, 11:52:54 PM »
Quote from: DOITHARD on August 04, 2007, 11:50:06 PM
Thanks for the info...I'll check the place out in a couple of wks.
Post in 'where to ride' when you are going.
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August 05, 2007, 12:25:27 AM »
Not sure exactly what dates...the RV has a slider that is not operating properly and we are waiting for the dealer to tell us when its going to be repaired...this is the fourth time for the same item...we are also contemplating legal action under the lemon law...not sure whats going to happen.
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