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I am looking to buy some tires and wheels for the Outlander before next weekend's extreme Everglades ride. I currently have Vampires on my Prairie and have been very happy with their performance. But, they are 5 years old and seems like everybody is either riding on MudLites or Executioners. Any advice before I go plunking down $800.00 on a set of wheels and tires? 12" or 14"? How big can I go on an Outlander without doing a lift? It came with 26" so with the space available, I'm sure I can go 27". What about 28"?
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2007, 07:53:03 PM » |
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I am looking to buy some tires and wheels for the Outlander before next weekend's extreme Everglades ride. I currently have Vampires on my Prairie and have been very happy with their performance. But, they are 5 years old and seems like everybody is either riding on MudLites or Executioners. Any advice before I go plunking down $800.00 on a set of wheels and tires? 12" or 14"? How big can I go on an Outlander without doing a lift? It came with 26" so with the space available, I'm sure I can go 27". What about 28"?
Good, because I'll be running my bald Gators.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2007, 08:20:45 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2007, 08:37:16 PM » |
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Outlaws are the best mud tire. If you are planning on $800+ make it some Outlaws, or mudzilla's. go on www.highlifter.com/forum and ask what is the biggest you can put on w/o a lift.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2007, 09:25:53 PM » |
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outlaws suck balls
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2007, 10:10:41 PM » |
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outlaws suck balls
don't hate on the outlaws just b/c they have 2.5 inches of tread
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 10:52:19 PM » |
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outlaws suck balls
don't hate on the outlaws just b/c they have 2.5 inches of tread I was fixin to get some new gators, but if you are saying outlaws, I have got to look at them.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 11:29:46 PM » |
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Mickey Thompson Race Slicks......
If doing extreme mudding get outlaws or mudzillas. Ive seen mudmachines(?) that look like mudzillas that might be cheaper. If doing more trails then mudding mudlites or 589`s otta do you good. Vampires are still good tires too.
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2007, 09:02:18 AM » |
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you can put 29.5's on the 800 Stock no lift.....watch your stock axles and Yoke on the Trans
I have Gators on My Vinson and 589's on my King Quad...They all do the same work...
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2007, 10:01:51 AM » |
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Does anybody know anything about the Mudlite XTR? I was thinking of putting the ITP S-108 rims in 14" but don't know much about the tire and it seems nobody else is making 14" tires.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 10:09:00 AM » |
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I have not heard any problems with the XTR's....they do the job
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 10:57:00 AM » |
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I have Gators on My Vinson and 589's on my King Quad...They all do the same work...
...but some must do it a little better..?
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2007, 10:14:17 AM » |
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Mud Bitches!
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2007, 11:34:30 AM » |
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I have Gators on My Vinson and 589's on my King Quad...They all do the same work...
...but some must do it a little better..? All about the rider...in My opinion
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2007, 11:43:38 AM » |
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My buddy ran the the 27" TSL Swamp Lite's this weekend and they pulled great. Plus they ride good on hard surfaces as well. Outlaws ride like a tractor tire on hard pack. My $.02
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2007, 11:51:31 AM » |
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My buddy ran the the 27" TSL Swamp Lite's this weekend and they pulled great. Plus they ride good on hard surfaces as well. Outlaws ride like a tractor tire on hard pack. My $.02
Very true but, when you pull into a mudhole with Outlaws you know you will be coming out the other side.... They will beat the hell out of you on the trails and you will have to ride in the back of the pack or else your buddies will hate you but they are the best mud tire out there.
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2007, 11:53:41 AM » |
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i had maxxis mudbug's on my honda rubicon and they were great!
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2007, 11:54:53 AM » |
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outlaws are the best pure mud tire. This topic has been beaten to death on highlifter.
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2007, 02:37:50 PM » |
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Well I'm gonna go with outlaws I believe. Can't hurt. ![Cool](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2007, 03:37:53 PM » |
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Well I'm gonna go with outlaws I believe. Can't hurt. ![Cool](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Go ahead and buy some axles. They do great in the mud, sometimes too good and tear your stuff up.
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2007, 03:55:18 PM » |
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when you pull into a mudhole with Outlaws you know you will be coming out the other side....
That's what you told Antioch just before SNAP his axle broke in half! ![Grin](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2007, 04:00:03 PM » |
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Well I'm gonna go with outlaws I believe. Can't hurt. ![Cool](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Go ahead and buy some axles. They do great in the mud, sometimes too good and tear your stuff up. I've already had that problem with gators, and have plenty of spares. ![Wink](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2007, 06:32:07 PM » |
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wooly booger's, nothin better, they float on mud. LOL
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2007, 09:54:25 PM » |
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The boy says he wants to go so I think I'm going to take the wheels off the Prairie and put them on the Outlander. I heard they are the same pattern. If not, I'll just take the Prairie. Dennis! Hey, bud, what time?!?!?!
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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2007, 11:37:29 PM » |
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Outlaws hands down! Or mudzillas, Mud machines, and vamps. Mud machines ride extremely smooth on trails and still mud well, mine ride even smoother than the stockers. On an Outlander you can both fit and turn 29.5 laws stock so no worries in that department.
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2007, 06:38:13 AM » |
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I am looking to buy some tires and wheels for the Outlander before next weekend's extreme Everglades ride. I currently have Vampires on my Prairie and have been very happy with their performance. But, they are 5 years old and seems like everybody is either riding on MudLites or Executioners. Any advice before I go plunking down $800.00 on a set of wheels and tires? 12" or 14"? How big can I go on an Outlander without doing a lift? It came with 26" so with the space available, I'm sure I can go 27". What about 28"?
I think you should try...hmmmm let me see, Tires Kenda Bearclaw Kenda Executioner GBC Gator GBC Dirt Devil GBC Dirt Tamer Maxxis Mudzilla Maxxis Mud Bug Maxxis Bighorn Highlifter Outlaw Highlifter Outlaw MST Vampire EDL Interco Swamp Lite ITP Blackwater ITP Holeshot ATR ITP 589 MS ITP Mud Lite ITP Mud Lite XTR Radials ITP Terracross R/T Radials SuperGrip Mud pregnant dog Ducks Unlimited Wetlands Radials
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2007, 01:04:47 PM » |
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Just get ya a set of 30s like mine and be done with it
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Just get ya a set of 30s like mine and be done with it
Nice Wheels! What size rims?
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2007, 06:38:30 AM » |
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Mud Bitches!
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Just get ya a set of 30s like mine and be done with it
Nice Wheels! What size rims? 14S ![Shocked](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2007, 11:05:27 AM » |
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It all depends on what your going to be using these tires for.As stated earlyer this topic has been beaten to death on highlifter..... pure mud-outlaw mostly mud with trail-bi/tri claws trails/mud-mudbugs/gators (same thing)
I no from experience the claws ride like stockers on trails....and they mud great.And mucho cheaper then outlaws or mudzillas. Another option would be the mud bitches!!!
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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2007, 03:00:39 PM » |
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Outlaws or zillas on anything. Man up and ride em on da trail!
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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2007, 05:32:05 PM » |
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yea but in a mudhole like let's say..... Holylands those outlaws like to find bottom and their aint none! ![Lecture](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/lecture.gif)
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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2007, 05:54:17 PM » |
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yea but in a mudhole like let's say..... Holylands those outlaws like to find bottom and their aint none! ![Lecture](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/lecture.gif) Outlaws usually pull fowards and not down which is why most hardcore mudders run them. The vamp EDLs pull straight down which is why you usually see people run them in man made mud bog pits.
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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2007, 09:07:46 PM » |
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I meant vampires i was just thinking outlaws cause I was looking at my bike with my new outlaws while I was typin this!! ![3 Stooges](http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/Smileys/default/stooges.gif)
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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2007, 10:04:03 PM » |
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I have to say with all the rain and from what I saw crossing the alley yesterday if you dont have an airboat you aint going anywhere and I dont care what tires you have without a full snorkel you wont make it across the canal and I cant see it getting much better once your across as I rode it 2-3 weeks ago and it was nasty. This is if were still refering to the mm39.5 ride south of alley
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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2007, 10:12:33 PM » |
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The mud Bitches looked nice I saw a guy with them but dont know where he got them from.
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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2007, 11:27:48 PM » |
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The mud Bitches looked nice I saw a guy with them but dont know where he got them from.
They are the off brand on the mudzilla's. Same tread design and a little heavier. But a lot of people with the 27s get 28+"s out of them
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« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2007, 11:37:22 PM » |
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mud machine tri-claw xt's. they offr great bite in thick mudd and loose dirt. as well as awsome reverse without slipp. and trail riding is great on them
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