Truck Performance Upgrades ?

[Chuck_Norris]

Good luck giving the truck back...usuallu when you title it you own. Swamp could shed more light on that.

[SWAMP_DONKEY]

Good luck giving the truck back...usuallu when you title it you own. Swamp could shed more light on that.

 Yes, there is allot people that think they have 3 days to deside if they want to keep something they bought...its called a 3 day right of recision and it only applies if you are solicited in your home or place of buisiness, so if you go someplace to buy something...you own it. Sorry but that is the law.

[Ynot0323]

well Carmax isnt that way.. Took it back and got my $$ back, told em i am not satisfied with it, and they took me out on the lot to look at some diesel F-250's, but they are WAY overpriced there..

Tony

[bluestroker]

I plan to buy used, but not abused..

I heard the 6.0's have a lot of problems, since they are gas engines converted to diesel..

I am thinking about the 7.3 PS, but i need to get enough evidence to show my dad that diesels in general DO GET BETTER GAS MILEAGE.. He will not believe me..

The 5.4 SUX and should not of ever been put in that size truck.. The supercharged 5.4 maybe, but not the regular one..

Tony

 ? GAS converted to diesel??? LMAO..NOT the case bro...whoever you get your info from..STOP!! lol  6.0 has been a diesel from the day it hit the drawing board and they have been almost flawless in 05 and 06. The 7.3 is an awesome engine, you are correct there but the fuel economy sell will never work. You will spent typically 5 to 7 thousand more for a powerstroke over a Gas engine ... with  fuel and gas being close to the same price you would have to drive that truck over 500,000 miles for it to pay for itself in fuel savings alone. If you need a diesel for pulling that its worth all the $$$$ you pay for it but for a daily drive it make no sence. As far as you statement about a 5.4 in the truck being worthless, you couldnt be more wrong the 5.4 it the perfect truck engine for a full size truck that doesnt pull a heavy load all the time. Do some more research or find a more credible source before you post.

SWAMP

I bought a diesel for a daily driver and you were happy to sell it to me Swamp 

just  kidding I pull either my boat or a trailer every weekend the 5.4 is a good engine in a 150 but I would never buy a 250 that has a 5.4 if you want to stick with gas go with the V10 F250 I know a couple people that are very happy with there gas V10 F250

Ynot0323 call Scott he has some nice F-250 up there right now I know its a nice lil drive from Miami but he is a great guy and gives good prices

[yfr450]

The best thing that you should have done is gotten a diesel truck. You do have a point, when you put a chip on a truck , it does mess up easy. Theres only one model, for example,the ford V10's can have a chip added on and nothing will happen but the fords V8 do mess up. 2 of my uncles have fords, one has a ford f-350 king ranch and he has a bully dog chip, air filter and 4in. exhaust, his truck is starting to give problems, my other uncle has a ford f-250 king ranch with a bigger turbo, exhaust and filter. the f-250 had about 3 chips and his fuel sensor blew. he had to change them all, and now he has no chips. but wen he had the chip,he was gettin 14 miles a gallon, now without the chip hes gettin 10 miles. it really depends which chip you put on your truck.

[Mars]

I'll 2nd the 150 w/5.4L. Works well for most and can get near 18 mpg in stock trim. The F250 is a heavy truck. The 5.4 will only get about 15 mpg in F250 trim.

I own a 04 F250 W/6.8L V10. It works great for me: I tow heavy once or twice a month.
I was certified diesel mechanic when I left HS. The trade has done me well but I don't own a diesel.
I prefer to deal with the 13 mpg V10 than the current issues on late model diesels.

[JuniorMudder]

Good luck giving the truck back...usuallu when you title it you own. Swamp could shed more light on that.

 Yes, there is allot people that think they have 3 days to deside if they want to keep something they bought...its called a 3 day right of recision and it only applies if you are solicited in your home or place of buisiness, so if you go someplace to buy something...you own it. Sorry but that is the law.

That sounds like used car dealer talk. Most honest places will give you three days.

[Smoknbanshee]

Hate to break the news, but you won't get over 20 mpg out of a 7.3 diesel.  i get about 17.5, but with my tuner my overhead console says 20.5 all day long.  that confuses alot of people.  when you put a programmer on a 7.3 diesel you can throw the overhead console mpg calculation out the window.  i thought the same thing when i was looking at them, but now know.  and adding an exhaust, bigger intake turbo housing, afe air intake, boost regulator, and a custom tuner to a 7.3 is not going to hurt it.  Trust me i have one.  Now i do actually have a set of gauges, and I have to drive by the gauges and not by the pedal anymore.  For instance, i am about to change my waste gate actuator because it is opening up prematurely because the spring is weak in it, and when i was pulling a 5th wheel this past weekend on some steep slopes in SC, i would have to back out of the throttle some and hold my EGT's at around 1150 degrees.  You can say what you want, but if your going to get a ford you need to call jody tipton from dp -tuner and talk to him.  Getting a bully dog, or superchips, or standard tuner that is not custome tuned for your truck is a waste of money.  your not getting your money's worth, get a custom tune.  there are other people out there besides jody tipton that do it, but he is one of the best.

[SWAMP_DONKEY]

Good luck giving the truck back...usuallu when you title it you own. Swamp could shed more light on that.

 Yes, there is allot people that think they have 3 days to decide if they want to keep something they bought...its called a 3 day right of rescission and it only applies if you are solicited in your home or place of business, so if you go someplace to buy something...you own it. Sorry but that is the law.

That sounds like used car dealer talk. Most honest places will give you three days.

 Well I really don't think I should have to defend myself but when someone stereo types people it is offensive not to mention insulting someones integrity that you have never met, it demands responce. I have grown up in a small town and have been in the Auto industry for over 20 years in this same town having worked and schooled my way through the business and progressed myself through education and knowledge NOT lies and deceit. I have NEVER stretched the truth, Lied about a vehicle or sold something that I didn't feel comfortable selling. I have turned down deals , Lost $$$$ to help someone in need and even cosigned for someone I didn't know to get them a car when none else would. I run an honest Dealership and would never compromise myself or my integrity to sell a vehicle. The three day right of rescission is a Florida Law on the Books that you should research before making such a statement , but @ 26years old You know it all so research it a wast of time. My information was and is correct about the rescission law and was meant to be informative not "used car dealer talk". I challenge you to find anyone more honest and willing to help others that myself. May the next dealership you buy a car from live up to your expectations.

[Ynot0323]

Swamp Donkey,

sent you an e-mail on the F-250 Lariat you have on the heartland motors website..

Tony

[badcompanyron]

smoke, did u get my pm?

[xr100racer]

The best thing that you should have done is gotten a diesel truck. You do have a point, when you put a chip on a truck , it does mess up easy. Theres only one model, for example,the ford V10's can have a chip added on and nothing will happen but the fords V8 do mess up. 2 of my uncles have fords, one has a ford f-350 king ranch and he has a bully dog chip, air filter and 4in. exhaust, his truck is starting to give problems, my other uncle has a ford f-250 king ranch with a bigger turbo, exhaust and filter. the f-250 had about 3 chips and his fuel sensor blew. he had to change them all, and now he has no chips. but wen he had the chip,he was gettin 14 miles a gallon, now without the chip hes gettin 10 miles. it really depends which chip you put on your truck.

well my buddy jethro gots a 6.9L powerstroke and he put one of them 7.3L super bully dog chips and he be gettins bout 24mpg with the 6.0L injectors in the damn thing

[SWAMP_DONKEY]

Swamp Donkey,

sent you an e-mail on the F-250 Lariat you have on the heartland motors website..

Tony

 10-4 I will get it in the AM...still drugged up

[qt314nfla]

That sounds like used car dealer talk. Most honest places will give you three days.

Junior, you may have had some bad luck w/ a used car dealer in the past.  You may be discussing a stereo type.  Many on here can assure you that Swamp Donkey is an upstanding man all around.  He has integrity above most ppl I've ever met both in personal life as well as w/ his business dealings.  I certainly hope you were not taking a stab at someone you have no knowledge of and have never met.  I know this man personally and he goes above and beyond ALWAYS!  And often gets screwed for helping others out.

[MuddFreak77]

well my buddy jethro gots a 6.9L powerstroke and he put one of them 7.3L super bully dog chips and he be gettins bout 24mpg with the 6.0L injectors in the damn thing

ROTFFLMFAO  THat is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time!!!!!

Donkey is a standup guy and will bend over backwards to help ANYONE.  Alot of the time he gets burned helping someone but doesn't care.    SWAMP DONKEY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

I will buy my next truck from Donkey, I have publicly seen him tell someone not to bother coming to the dealership to look at a truck cause it didn't meet his expections, how many dealerships would do this?  And this is after Donkey BOUGHT the truck with his own $$$$.  What happened he ATE the cost.

[Ynot0323]

well my buddy jethro gots a 6.9L powerstroke and he put one of them 7.3L super bully dog chips and he be gettins bout 24mpg with the 6.0L injectors in the damn thing

Thats what i have heard and read.. In the new copy of Diesel Trucking, there is a article on Window Sticker MPG..

Gassers get 1.75-2.5 % less then they claim, and Diesels get something likie 4.3 % better then they claim..

That there, will be PROOF enough for my dad to see that the diesels get better fuel economy..

A co-worker of mine has a 2002 Excursion, with the 7.3 and added a K&N Air Filter ( not intake ), exhaust, additional gauges and a DP Tuner and says city he gets about 18-19 mpg and on the highway gets 22mpg..

That is on the 80 HP Economy setting..

Seems good enough for me.. to get 18 city and 22 hwy on a truck is a BEAST..

Tony

[MuddFreak77]

well my buddy jethro gots a 6.9L powerstroke and he put one of them 7.3L super bully dog chips and he be gettins bout 24mpg with the 6.0L injectors in the damn thing

Tony....   You cannot put a 7.3 bullydog chip on a 6.9, no computer in the 6.9.  The 6.0 injectors will not work on a 6.9 again no computer to control the injectors.   The 6.9 is a pure mechanical engine.  It was first introduced into the ford trucks in 1983 and the last production year was around 1990.  This person is pulling you leg.

If you can find and old 6.9 you will get 25mpg all day long.  I had one and LOVED it.

[JuniorMudder]

Good luck giving the truck back...usuallu when you title it you own. Swamp could shed more light on that.

 Yes, there is allot people that think they have 3 days to decide if they want to keep something they bought...its called a 3 day right of rescission and it only applies if you are solicited in your home or place of business, so if you go someplace to buy something...you own it. Sorry but that is the law.

That sounds like used car dealer talk. Most honest places will give you three days.

 Well I really don't think I should have to defend myself but when someone stereo types people it is offensive not to mention insulting someones integrity that you have never met, it demands responce. I have grown up in a small town and have been in the Auto industry for over 20 years in this same town having worked and schooled my way through the business and progressed myself through education and knowledge NOT lies and deceit. I have NEVER stretched the truth, Lied about a vehicle or sold something that I didn't feel comfortable selling. I have turned down deals , Lost $$$$ to help someone in need and even cosigned for someone I didn't know to get them a car when none else would. I run an honest Dealership and would never compromise myself or my integrity to sell a vehicle. The three day right of rescission is a Florida Law on the Books that you should research before making such a statement , but @ 26years old You know it all so research it a wast of time. My information was and is correct about the rescission law and was meant to be informative not "used car dealer talk". I challenge you to find anyone more honest and willing to help others that myself. May the next dealership you buy a car from live up to your expectations.

I'm sorry. I had no idea you are in the business. I didnt mean to insult you in anyway. I am here to talk about atvs and talk online with the great people I met at L-Cross. My brother has a dealership in north caolonia and they don't like jokes about car salesmen either.

[JuniorMudder]

That sounds like used car dealer talk. Most honest places will give you three days.

Junior, you may have had some bad luck w/ a used car dealer in the past.  You may be discussing a stereo type.  Many on here can assure you that Swamp Donkey is an upstanding man all around.  He has integrity above most ppl I've ever met both in personal life as well as w/ his business dealings.  I certainly hope you were not taking a stab at someone you have no knowledge of and have never met.  I know this man personally and he goes above and beyond ALWAYS!  And often gets screwed for helping others out.

I would never take a stab at someone I dont know personally - that would be childish. I just call things like I see em. It is cause I am the only girl in a LARGE family of boys.I think everyone who deals with vehicles should just agree it as is taillight warrenty. We bought many trucks and big equipment over here through the years my dad buys a new Freightliner every year and my brothers have every 4wd vehicle you ever seen and then some from countries I cant pronunce. and it is always cash and always as is buying and selling with us. We have good and bad things happen. They all laugh at my little rancher and 28" tires. that is why they call me junior. I cant believe how much fun these little things are. almost as good as an airboat. I wish I could take it to corbitt but thems the breaks in the big city.

[blupits04]

Hate to break the news, but you won't get over 20 mpg out of a 7.3 diesel.  i get about 17.5, but with my tuner my overhead console says 20.5 all day long.  that confuses alot of people.  when you put a programmer on a 7.3 diesel you can throw the overhead console mpg calculation out the window.  i thought the same thing when i was looking at them, but now know.  and adding an exhaust, bigger intake turbo housing, afe air intake, boost regulator, and a custom tuner to a 7.3 is not going to hurt it.  Trust me i have one.  Now i do actually have a set of gauges, and I have to drive by the gauges and not by the pedal anymore.  For instance, i am about to change my waste gate actuator because it is opening up prematurely because the spring is weak in it, and when i was pulling a 5th wheel this past weekend on some steep slopes in SC, i would have to back out of the throttle some and hold my EGT's at around 1150 degrees.  You can say what you want, but if your going to get a ford you need to call jody tipton from dp -tuner and talk to him.  Getting a bully dog, or superchips, or standard tuner that is not custome tuned for your truck is a waste of money.  your not getting your money's worth, get a custom tune.  there are other people out there besides jody tipton that do it, but he is one of the best.

Hey jason I agree with you,but I do get 22mpg with my 7.3 but I have also got a bunch of work done to it but I also have different gears in the front and rear.but thats is just driving it easy,if I pull a load behind it my mpg drops a little.

[Ynot0323]

BluPits04, i am aware that if you are towing, your MPG will drop a little.. At most i tow either a 1500 lb boat or 3000 lbs of scrap metal..NOTHIN HEAVY HEAVY !!

Tony

[xr100racer]

Tony....   You cannot put a 7.3 bullydog chip on a 6.9, no computer in the 6.9.  The 6.0 injectors will not work on a 6.9 again no computer to control the injectors.   The 6.9 is a pure mechanical engine.  It was first introduced into the ford trucks in 1983 and the last production year was around 1990.  This person is pulling you leg.

damn straight you cant put no 7.3L bullydog chip on a 6.9, gots to use the SUPER bullydog chip like i said

and the SUPER bullydog chip controls the 6.0L injectors once you put them in the 6.9L

powerstrokes have lots of interchangeble parts, im begining to doubt your resourcefulness on this subject muddfreak

[MuddFreak77]

Tony....   You cannot put a 7.3 bullydog chip on a 6.9, no computer in the 6.9.  The 6.0 injectors will not work on a 6.9 again no computer to control the injectors.   The 6.9 is a pure mechanical engine.  It was first introduced into the ford trucks in 1983 and the last production year was around 1990.  This person is pulling you leg.

damn straight you cant put no 7.3L bullydog chip on a 6.9, gots to use the SUPER bullydog chip like i said

and the SUPER bullydog chip controls the 6.0L injectors once you put them in the 6.9L

powerstrokes have lots of interchangeble parts, im begining to doubt your resourcefulness on this subject muddfreak

JohnF you show me where Bully Dog has the SUPER BullyDog controller  http://www.bullydog.com/index.php?customernumber=1013646811867&pr=ef7da766d7&thiscat=110&=SID

Also the 6.9 is a common rail fuel system, the 6.0 and the 7.3 have different fuel delivery systems (yes they are both have fuel and oil passages in the heads but they are different)  Also the injectors are different sizes between the 3 engines, and you cannot swap the 6.0 heads on to a 7.3 or a 6.9.  Now you can swap the 6.9 nd 7.3 heads.  And yes i know the 7.3 is nothing bot a bored and stroked 6.9.

[xr100racer]

why would the Super bullydog chip be on bullydog's website?  it would be on the superchips website if anywhere, it was a chip made by Superchips and they called it the bullydog but had to stop making it because the company "bullydog"  had a copyright over the "bullydog" name. you can find used ones for sale on ebay every once in awhile

[MuddFreak77]

why would the Super bullydog chip be on bullydog's website?  it would be on the superchips website if anywhere, it was a chip made by Superchips and they called it the bullydog but had to stop making it because the company "bullydog"  had a copyright over the "bullydog" name. you can find used ones for sale on ebay every once in awhile

ok John you keep thinking that, btw let me know when you have a 6.9 running with the 6.0 injectors with the 7.3 chip.