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Author Topic: SEX OFFENDERS IN YOUR AREA???  (Read 8852 times)
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2007, 11:38:21 AM »

Crap....one lives near us!!! I got the rope ready... anyone have a nice tall tree?

   Shocked after looking further the towtruck driver that came to River Ranch to tow my wifes H2 is on the list Shocked
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2007, 11:42:26 AM »

"sittin in a knoxville courthouse, aint got a thing to do , dont want to go to the movies, couldnt if I wanted to , cause Im on trial ....for lovin you""  ....hank jr huh , NAW, never heard that song. Grin
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2007, 02:36:10 PM »

Actually no I don't believe I've heard that song.  Very strange. 
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2007, 06:26:23 PM »

Mom and Pop are white and heterosexual-enough to have delivered that abortion to our society! Can you image that? But, can't tell from the photos if they still have their teeth.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2007, 06:58:26 PM »

For those of you who have argued that the young are not really guilty because their victim was under 18 and they are just over, this scumbag's conviction occurred when he was 22.  Just a victim of circumstance?  It's proof once again that there is no cure other than death.  Who knows how many others were defiled at his hands before this happened.

SAVANNAH, Ga. - A convicted child molester and his parents were indicted Wednesday on charges they molested and then murdered a 6-year-old neighbor boy, whose body was found last week in a trash bag dumped by a roadside.

Glynn County District Attorney Stephen D. Kelley said he will seek the death penalty against George David Edenfield, 32, who has a prior child molestation conviction from 1997
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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2007, 08:30:41 PM »

Damn, I should have become a lawyer. I can't believe I am going to get back in this thread, but I must inject this. I swear I would die to get any bastard that violated my little daughter, or anyones for that matter.

The term "sex offender" applies to many classes of crimes. One can become a sex offender for raping a five-year-old, and the same label will be applied to many who urinate in public, are 18 years old and have sex with a 16-year-old girlfriend. or even download child pornography from the Internet for the thrill of getting away with something. Is this the correct way to handle crime--by popping a modern-day scarlet letter on a wide class of convicts, then treating them all as if they are all equal to the worst in the group?


Registries are often used to engage in vigilante justice against convicted sex offenders. A few high-profile cases exist where a "righteous citizen" used information on sex offender registries to locate and murder sex offenders.


New sex offenses against children are usually committed by persons close to those children and not currently listed on any form of criminal registry. The truthful figures, direct from a US Dept. of Justice study, place the number of convicted sex offenders that commit new sex crimes between five and six percent--which means that if 100 people are on the registry for your county, only five or six will commit another sex crime, which means that 94 or 95 will not.


Sex offender registries are what is known as a "de facto" punishment. After serving whatever sentence is expected, offenders are then branded, often for life, by having huge amounts of personal information posted in a publicly accessible registry. This violates the basic idea that once a person "does their time" they can return to society and rebuild their lives.


Many people feel that sex offenders should be punished as much as possible, or even killed immediately upon conviction, and this is often how one finds registration and post-punishment punishment justified, but consider this: sex offenders that are released from prison or are placed on probation with a suspended sentence need to rebuild stable lives in order to minimize the risk of committing new crimes, including new sex crimes. Stability generally consists of meeting core needs such as decent housing, a job with a living wage, and healthy social relationships. Having a demonizing label like "sex offender" prevents these people from getting housing and a job, and in general any new friendships will dissolve immediately upon discovering the "sex offender" status. This becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: the offender can't register without a home, and goes back to jail on a felony failure to register. The offender steals to eat, and goes back to jail for petty theft. The offender can't develop relationships, and may revert to deviant behavior to compensate, which may consist of resuming the behaviors that opened up opportunity to sexually offend in the first place. In other words, punishment of offenders beyond prison and/or probation actually increases the overall chances that your children will jump in harm's way.
THE BOTTOM LINE: Sex offender registration coupled with fully open public disclosure of the contents of the registry endangers everyone. The ex-offender and his or her innocent family members, your children, and even you yourself--all are at higher risk of becoming a crime victim because of sex offender registration. If the purpose of registration is to help you protect your family, it is failing in a worse way with every passing year. The next time you hear a politician talking about "being tough on crime," remember what you've read here, and ask yourself: is the "tough on crime" approach making my child safer, or just making me feel better at night for a few months before my child gets molested at the pool?

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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2007, 10:01:45 PM »

That is a very well presented case for abolishing sex offender lists.  However, any person who is convicted of a crime has their personal information become a matter of public record.  Are you suggesting that those who commit sex crimes should receive a sheltered status since their crime is more heinous than, say, a burglar?  That they should receive special status so they have a fighting chance to 'get on with their lives?'  I applaud the efforts of these clearing houses that search the public records and identifies these deviants of society. I think it is important that sexual offenders be required to register.  The fact of the matter is the most appalling abuse is committed by repeat offenders.  It is nearly universally agreed that there is no cure for this type of behavior.  We're not talking about the 19 year-old dating a 16 year-old; I have trouble accepting that as being a crime.  But when you're talking 19 with 12 or 13, or younger as we've have seen, then that person needs to be dealt with.  The system is not perfect and perhaps there should be a mechanism to expunge the record of a person who is a victim of a momentary lapse of judgement.  Most states have a minimum age of consent that usually includes an acceptable age spread of the consenting parties.  They are there for a reason.  A 15 year-old is not equipped to deal with the savviness of a 21 year-old she meets at the beach (or in a bar, for that matter, if she managed to sneak her way in).  Being labeled a sexual offender is something these people brought upon themselves.  Not the other way around.  The law was there when they entered into their pattern of behavior.  They made the choice to act.  Their choices are no different than the burglar or murderer.  I use these two examples because all three of these crimes require a conscious effort to commit.  I have no pity for any of them.
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2007, 10:41:30 PM »

I just really feel the current classification system needs a major revamp.
Perhaps the ones administering it keep it vague for some unknown reason.
It scares me some wingnut might blow up some guys house because he is on the flawed list, and by god he either moved or was innocent in the first place. My mom could be next door.
Do not think for a second I don't have a replacement and improvements in mind.
Personally, I am <b>100%</b> in support of either physical or chemical castration for a good portion of the heinous offenders, and death for a select few, once proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That would practically end the need for the flawed list system in the first place.



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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2007, 07:38:39 AM »

Going back to what I said before, whether you consider the list to be flawed or not, any person convicted of a crime (any crime) has their personal information become a matter of public record.  That information will always be there for anybody willing to look for it.  These people don't deserve any special treatment.  An unacceptably high number of them usually commit multiple crimes while in the act; burglary, kidnapping, sexual assault and, finally, murder so that they don't end up on some list somewhere.  Many of those that don't go to such extremes usually try to intimidate (you tell anybody and I'll kill your mother) or influence their victims with promises of money or 'sincere' apologies.  The sexual predator is a particularly despicable character and doesn't deserve any special treatment.  They all start with one offense and go from there.  To blame their transgressions on the system is another example of one of the main problems with society today; no accountability.  I'm sick of hearing about tough childhoods.  We all know right from wrong.  If you have urges that you know is wrong, then go get help before you act out.  Don't sit back and claim you're a victim of the system after the fact.
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