I may have us a new place to ride .

[J.D.]

It is going to take a while so just stick together . I'll give Joey a call next week , he said he had a bigger piece of land for us to look at ,and that is very important! We have to have enough land to make all the numbers click , we can't expect to meet the insurance , landowners fees with 50 acres of land ......That is where the whole thing gets tricky .It has to be entertaining with enough room so people will show up in numbers sufficient to make enough profit to be worth the investment . IT's tough being the middleman ! lets try to keep this topic on topic because last time we met I printed up ya'll's replies for him to keep and read . We are a team even if we don't realize it , words are a powerful thing  if used properly and honestly ! Keep in mind he is a straight talkin country boy .

[Eworm]

It is going to take a while so just stick together . I'll give Joey a call next week , he said he had a bigger piece of land for us to look at ,and that is very important! We have to have enough land to make all the numbers click , we can't expect to meet the insurance , landowners fees with 50 acres of land ......That is where the whole thing gets tricky .It has to be entertaining with enough room so people will show up in numbers sufficient to make enough profit to be worth the investment . IT's tough being the middleman ! lets try to keep this topic on topic because last time we met I printed up ya'll's replies for him to keep and read . We are a team even if we don't realize it , words are a powerful thing  if used properly and honestly ! Keep in mind he is a straight talkin country boy .

J: keep in mind, that with minor changes to the track and/or trails it can make it a comepletely different expirience everytime the clients (us) go out there. A new twist here and a different turn there along with a new jump or something like that every so often... U know what I mean??? IMO it does not have to be that big of a place as long as it is maintained and it does not seam the same everytime. But dont get me wrong: THE BIGGER THE BETTER.

[J.D.]

Did you hear all the comments about MSG last month being over crowded  ?The land size is one of our biggest hurdles so far ! I will definately keep it interesting , alot of stuff that no park in fl has to offer . The 4x4's will be introduced to a whole new type of riding ......Technical . And for the sports , a toned down moto x track . But it's going to be a bit .

[J.D.]

I hate to say it , but we have to put our efforts on pause for a bit . I know some of you will be Pi$$ed but I cant help it ...I'm sorry . We just cant get enough land to support enough riders to make all the numbers click. If someone can get a group together with 40 riders or so willing to pay about $ 750 each let me know and I will help as much as I can . That will cover insurance and profit for the owner .. without me "middle man "
Again I'm  very sorry but my time and resources are spent . :-/

[Eworm]

I hate to say it , but we have to put our efforts on pause for a bit . I know some of you will be Pi$$ed but I cant help it ...I'm sorry . We just cant get enough land to support enough riders to make all the numbers click. If someone can get a group together with 40 riders or so willing to pay about $ 750 each let me know and I will help as much as I can . That will cover insurance and profit for the owner .. without me "middle man "
Again I'm  very sorry but my time and resources are spent . :-/

So can we safely say that if we get 300 members at $100.00 per member we can do this?

[J.D.]

Probably but ....everything will have to be constructed by vols. Potty...Track ....Again I'm sorry but I just cant get it done as a middle man .

[Eworm]

Probably but ....everything will have to be constructed by vols. Potty...Track ....Again I'm sorry but I just cant get it done as a middle man .

So taking the pottys and bath rooms out of the picture, we would just basically have to groom it with tractors and bobcats? Is this what you are saying J?

[J.D.]

And get it worked out with the owner ...Probably not enough room for 300 members .

[yfz450psycho]

JD how many acres is i could tell you if that is enough room

[kodiak69]

hey man im up her in vero id be more n happy to get a crew n come help just give me sum directions thanx

[rednek]

Count me and little rednec in if it is within a 100 miles of Orlando

[themensh]

>Probably not enough room for 300 members .<< 

I hardly think 300 people would show up at one time.

>>40 members willing to pay $750<<<

 And what do those 40 'members' get?

If a person or corporation had the land.......they could easily, for a yearly fee......get more than three hundred people and charge a couple hundred bucks  ($20 a month is not too outrageous.....considering the mileage I would expend going to Ocala Ntl. Forest or to croom.)  Porta potties would suffice for restrooms..........sure.........water fountains would be nice...........but lets get the riding area down first.
   My next thought is this sounds like a scam.........allot of hype, then backing out.....
     But for $750...what do we get?  (you not being a middleman and all..............)

             Chuck

[ridinjammer4ever89]

hey yuall is it in pbc if not where is it i would love too go and what terain is it mud trails tracks?

[peppiegrizz]

JD  ,   count on me and I'll get more people.

[Bigscrb15]

JD  ,   count on me and I'll get more people.

i think this idea has been tossed in the garbage, too expensive to happen right now.

[phoneguy982]

We live in St. Lucie and I'd be interested in joining. We just got 3 4-wheelers and need places to ride. LMK if I can help.

[muddmxr]

any one heard about cops giving tickets out at seaword was planning a ride onthe 21st

[jocolo]

dont go (seaworld ) you'll be finger printed and maybe fined

[Renagade]

I'm in PSL and can help out if needed. There are still a few places we ride here but soon they will be gone. The need for a club is growing here. The club can get vouches for acquisitions like this one.

[sweetrider215]

so is thing out the doors id be willing to help not all the time but i can help if the land is still avible and everything u know

[jgdorado]

Hey folks, we (http://www.fl-atv.com) have enough people to start our first park. All we need to do is identify some land for a purchase. Our group will put it all together and it won't be temporary. Remember we're about fractional ownership FOREVER.

So, anyone who is aware of some real riding land "for sale" please let me know via email purchase@fl-atv.com

We'll take care of ourselves and create our own riding land.

[Raptor660R]

How much land are you looking for, what areas and what price range?

[1FasterBlaster]

I have a friend with some heavy equipment. Maybe there could be some kind of contract for frequent land grading to keep the grounds ridable. Maybe even help build a track!

[Raptor660R]

Any updates?

[jgdorado]

hey Raptor660R, I didn't receive an email telling me there was a response here(sorry).

What I believe us as a group will buy into is around 400 or so acres. Fortunately, the price has been dropping in recent months. I believe we'll be able to find prices in the $10-14,000 dollar per acre range (roughly 4-6 million per riding facility). The real plus with what we're doing is everyone owns. They can sell, trade - whatever with their share of the land.

I believe we can support several riding areas we just need to join forces and open our first one. Then we can add more and those who purchased a little far from home initially can trade or sell out to buy into one closer to their home (or own into multiple locations).

I've found acreage that has been cleared...I'm sure we don't want that. I've also found (but haven't been able to research) 400+ wooded acres off Hwy27 near hwy 64 (near Sebring and Lake Placid).

For the heck of it...how does something like that sound to you (in the $3-4,000 per owner range)??