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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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I joined the Marines and I'm in 12th grade, I leave for boot camp on June 4th. Currently I'm very enthusiastic and I'm ready to get out of here and see some things and do some growing up.
As for the draft, if it's needed, then it's needed, there's nothing to argue about. If you're that scared of helping defend the country a bit, then run off to Canada and stay there.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Did I ever say that I didnot support the war? Once in my post did I ever say I didnot support the war? NO. I clearly stated that I donot support the draft for several reasons. Everybody that signs up for the military and everyone that is curretly deployed in Iraq is there by their own will. They signed up to fight for our country so that people like me have a good opportunity to be sucessful in life. They also give us the right to be talking about this right here. As far as the spinless liberal thing, I didnot say that you were a spinless liberal. I said the congress was. Even quite a few republicans. Thats the main reason we lost the house and senate. So you might want to check what your reading. I respect your oppinion and thats why i didnot revert to name calling to anyone here. TRX, I didnot mean to get you into a tantrum. I was just saying you make these baseless, non backed up comments with no factual reason. I am sorry you want to spank me and send me into war. I hope your 2 like your profile says. I would hate to see a adult talk to a 15yr old like that....
I just read Toomey's post. He is the kind of people we have in our military. People who want to be there and fight for our country. Plus another thing you guys said that wasnt true is that I dont want to fight for our country. I said I wouldnt want to fight if there were people that willingly volunteered to do that.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Quote from: MadMudder on January 09, 2007, 08:50:43 PM
I just read Toomey's post. He is the kind of people we have in our military. People who want to be there and fight for our country. Plus another thing you guys said that wasnt true is that I dont want to fight for our country. I said I wouldnt want to fight if there were people that willingly volunteered to do that.
I agree with you there. There are people that just don't like the idea of joining the military, and there's nothing wrong with that, it's a personality thing or whatever. I'm not to crazy about going to college, but I'll end up with my degree eventually, it's just one of those things.
When enough people that want to be there join, and it saves the non-joiners the trouble with the draft, then that's the win-win situation. But if there comes a time for the draft, what can I tell you, I'm not in control of how many people join the military or which wars we fight. Hopefully there won't be a draft so that everyone can continue with the lives they want to live.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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January 09, 2007, 09:13:22 PM »
"The only reason we don't have more troops in Iraq is because of congress and people like you! Congress is made up of a bunch of spineless liberals that just vote against anything bush proposes." When you group me with congress and then say congress is a bunch of spin less liberals you are calling me a spineless liberal, not that I care mind you I have been called alot worse than that
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Toomey, thank you for supporting our country by enlisting in the military and I wish you and others like you all the luck in the world and hope you achieve all your goals in life. You sir are indeed a MAN
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January 09, 2007, 09:25:17 PM »
Ok, although I didnt directly say it towards you, I said it. I shoudnt have said it. I dont like calling names and I really dont like it when other people revert to it in these political sections. Its just that I have strong feelings when it comes to this subject. The whole war and bush thing.
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January 09, 2007, 09:28:47 PM »
Not a problem, I think it's good that someone your age shows some interest in things that are happening in this world.
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well, im not all excited about being forced to go to fight but i will if they need me to. i kinda agree with mad mudder about not wanting to go and possibly die at the age of 18. thats not my idea of fun. however, killing towelheads sounds like fun.
as for the liberals killing everything bush does, its true. if bush tried to kill himself, they would not let him. if he tried to get rid of guns, they would try to keep them. they are just stubborn losers that want to fight like girls all the time. they dont give a crap about the wellfare of the country. all they care about is themselves and their kids. they are girly men. scared of a fight. they hear about killing or bloodshed and run and hide.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Quote from: MadMudder on January 09, 2007, 08:50:43 PM
Did I ever say that I didnot support the war? Once in my post did I ever say I didnot support the war? NO. I clearly stated that I donot support the draft for several reasons. Everybody that signs up for the military and everyone that is curretly deployed in Iraq is there by their own will. They signed up to fight for our country so that people like me have a good opportunity to be sucessful in life. They also give us the right to be talking about this right here. As far as the spinless liberal thing, I didnot say that you were a spinless liberal. I said the congress was. Even quite a few republicans.
Thats the main reason we lost the house and senate
. So you might want to check what your reading. I respect your oppinion and thats why i didnot revert to name calling to anyone here. TRX, I didnot mean to get you into a tantrum. I was just saying you make these baseless, non backed up comments with no factual reason. I am sorry you want to spank me and send me into war. I hope your 2 like your profile says. I would hate to see a
adult talk to a 15yr old
like that....
I just read Toomey's post. He is the kind of people we have in our military. People who want to be there and fight for our country. Plus another thing you guys said that wasnt true is that I dont want to fight for our country.
I said I wouldnt want to fight if there were people that willingly volunteered to do that.
So I see how you voted, when you say "we" lost the house & senate. How long have you & other 15 yr. olds been voting
? With the attitude you have , you better HOPE & PRAY that there a lot of Toomey's out there because when your'e my age (46) this country is gonna be in very bad shape !!!
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Chillinthemost
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Quote from: Toomey on January 09, 2007, 08:38:57 PM
I joined the Marines and I'm in 12th grade, I leave for boot camp on June 4th. Currently I'm very enthusiastic and I'm ready to get out of here and see some things and do some growing up.
As for the draft, if it's needed, then it's needed, there's nothing to argue about. If you're that scared of helping defend the country a bit, then run off to Canada and stay there.
Thank you, Toomey. Be safe, and best of luck. Your parents must be proud. My son is only 5yrs. old but if he makes the decision that you did when he is old enough I would be very proud.
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Quote from: 2ndtime04gt on January 09, 2007, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Chillinthemost on January 09, 2007, 05:50:52 PM
It would be a good idea. Todays youth need to learn some discipline and respect.
Thats the problem, too many people think someone else should teach their kids respect and discipline. We should worry about teaching our own.
No, the problem is NOBODY teaches kids respect or discipline. There are WAY too many deadbeat sorry ass men out there that breed them and leave them. So there is no man in the kids life to teach them. When I was growing up you still got your ass beat at school so if you didnt learn how to obey the rules at home at least they could discipline kids at school.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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January 09, 2007, 11:58:39 PM »
ILL BE HAPPY TO GO!!!!! IF YOU FIX THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT FIRST!
IEDS DONT WORK AT 35K FEET! NO IRAQIS ARE WORTH 1 DEAD GI!
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Quote from: bluesman on January 09, 2007, 11:58:39 PM
ILL BE HAPPY TO GO!!!!! IF YOU FIX THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT FIRST!
IEDS DONT WORK AT 35K FEET! NO IRAQIS ARE WORTH 1 DEAD GI!
i say if you see ANY towelhead (combatant or not) they should blow their guts out of the back of their bodies. they all hate Americans. weather armed or not. kill em all, let alah sort em out!
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Quote from: Chillinthemost on January 09, 2007, 11:43:18 PM
Quote from: 2ndtime04gt on January 09, 2007, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Chillinthemost on January 09, 2007, 05:50:52 PM
It would be a good idea. Todays youth need to learn some discipline and respect.
Thats the problem, too many people think someone else should teach their kids respect and discipline. We should worry about teaching our own.
No, the problem is NOBODY teaches kids respect or discipline. There are WAY too many deadbeat sorry ass men out there that breed them and leave them. So there is no man in the kids life to teach them. When I was growing up you still got your ass beat at school so if you didnt learn how to obey the rules at home at least they could discipline kids at school.
By saying NOBODY you include yourself. I have taught my kids much respect and discipline and also was brought up to do the same and when we didnt we got our asses whipped. Again it starts at the home.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Quote from: 2ndtime04gt on January 10, 2007, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: Chillinthemost on January 09, 2007, 11:43:18 PM
Quote from: 2ndtime04gt on January 09, 2007, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Chillinthemost on January 09, 2007, 05:50:52 PM
It would be a good idea. Todays youth need to learn some discipline and respect.
Thats the problem, too many people think someone else should teach their kids respect and discipline. We should worry about teaching our own.
No, the problem is NOBODY teaches kids respect or discipline. There are WAY too many deadbeat sorry ass men out there that breed them and leave them. So there is no man in the kids life to teach them. When I was growing up you still got your ass beat at school so if you didnt learn how to obey the rules at home at least they could discipline kids at school.
By saying NOBODY you include yourself. I have taught my kids much respect and discipline and also was brought up to do the same and when we didnt we got our asses whipped. Again it starts at the home.
I spend quite a bit of time with Chillin and his family. Trust me, he knows how to properly discipline and raise his kids and his kids are awesome because of it.
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Chillinthemost
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Thank you
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Quote from: DRWalum on January 09, 2007, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: MadMudder on January 09, 2007, 08:50:43 PM
Did I ever say that I didnot support the war? Once in my post did I ever say I didnot support the war? NO. I clearly stated that I donot support the draft for several reasons. Everybody that signs up for the military and everyone that is curretly deployed in Iraq is there by their own will. They signed up to fight for our country so that people like me have a good opportunity to be sucessful in life. They also give us the right to be talking about this right here. As far as the spinless liberal thing, I didnot say that you were a spinless liberal. I said the congress was. Even quite a few republicans.
Thats the main reason we lost the house and senate
. So you might want to check what your reading. I respect your oppinion and thats why i didnot revert to name calling to anyone here. TRX, I didnot mean to get you into a tantrum. I was just saying you make these baseless, non backed up comments with no factual reason. I am sorry you want to spank me and send me into war. I hope your 2 like your profile says. I would hate to see a
adult talk to a 15yr old
like that....
I just read Toomey's post. He is the kind of people we have in our military. People who want to be there and fight for our country. Plus another thing you guys said that wasnt true is that I dont want to fight for our country.
I said I wouldnt want to fight if there were people that willingly volunteered to do that.
So I see how you voted, when you say "we" lost the house & senate. How long have you & other 15 yr. olds been voting
? With the attitude you have , you better HOPE & PRAY that there a lot of Toomey's out there because when your'e my age (46) this country is gonna be in very bad shape !!!
Once again, I didnot say I voted. I said that in meaning that I support the republican party and if I could vote I would. Why do you guys misconshrew my words? Do you think im a kid and wont notice. Or is it that you just dont know? I did not say I voted. Also, I didnot say that i wouldnot go fight. I dont want to when there are people like Toomey that make the choice to go protect our country. I dont want to go and fight WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTARILY SIGN UP TO FIGHT! Did everyone read that clear? No misconceptions? Good.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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My 18 year old son who works 40hs a week and still goes to collage full time has a point.
We think you should lead by example why dont YOU join up!! first! let me know how it goes!
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Did it ever occur to you that the military isnt for everybody? If its so great then eveybody that isnt disabled should join right? Well then why didnt all of you join. Everyone here seems to agree that I should go join up... So why didnt you? Its because the military isnt for everyone. There are people like toomey that volunarly go and fight so that people like me dont have to. Thats the whole idea behind times that we dont have the draft. Also, blues, you or your son or anybody for that matter has no right to tell me what to do. I dont like when these threds get personal. I enjoy reading about other peoples oppinions but they all start getting personal.
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Quote from: MadMudder on January 11, 2007, 06:23:13 PM
Did it ever occur to you that the military isnt for everybody? If its so great then eveybody that isnt disabled should join right? Well then why didnt all of you join. Everyone here seems to agree that I should go join up... So why didnt you? Its because the military isnt for everyone. There are people like toomey that volunarly go and fight so that people like me dont have to. Thats the whole idea behind times that we dont have the draft. Also, blues, you or your son or anybody for that matter has no right to tell me what to do. I dont like when these threds get personal. I enjoy reading about other peoples oppinions but they all start getting personal.
Go fight for your country you little puss!
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Re: It's time to bring back the military draft!
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Yeah, go fight for the very folks who want to intimate or shame YOU into risking your life for their freedom to insult you.
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Quote from: MadMudder on January 11, 2007, 06:23:13 PM
Did it ever occur to you that the military isnt for everybody? If its so great then eveybody that isnt disabled should join right? Well then why didnt all of you join. Everyone here seems to agree that I should go join up... So why didnt you?
I did , I've been serving over 18 years, I've missed countless birthdays , wedding ann, xmas and other holiday's, and currently serving oversea's at this time. Stop crying and grow up
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