Cops hate quads-big and small!!

[1FasterBlaster]

I'm buying a D.R.R. 50 quad from Greenmachine and he drove from Brandon to Gandy Bch. to let my little girl try it.
  A cop in a Ford F-150 ext. cab with Sheriff on the side,pulled up and told us we couldn't ride our quads there. As he pulls away, a guy on a dirtbike- with no helmet on- comes by and he stops him.
   After five minutes , the guy rides on.When he comes back, he asked if we were gonna ride our quads. After I told him what the Sheriff said, he told us the cop said he was kewl, as long as he didn't do any donuts, or haul azz.
  Well,I'm talking to the major tommorrow and tell him about it.We wear all gear , and we ride registered quads.There's no way that slides!!

[AmericanRobster]

Thats crazy!

[1FasterBlaster]

   Im not saying all cops are bad, but this sure doesn't make me feel fairly treated.

[viper]

Life isn't fair

[Loven It]

Since when is it "LEGAL" to ride at Gandy Beach? 

I wouldn't imagine a beach was considered a legal riding area anyway.

[Mars]

I'm buying a D.R.R. 50 quad from Greenmachine and he drove from Brandon to Gandy Bch. to let my little girl try it.
  A cop in a Ford F-150 ext. cab with Sheriff on the side,pulled up and told us we couldn't ride our quads there. As he pulls away, a guy on a dirtbike- with no helmet on- comes by and he stops him.
   After five minutes , the guy rides on.When he comes back, he asked if we were gonna ride our quads. After I told him what the Sheriff said, he told us the cop said he was kewl, as long as he didn't do any donuts, or haul azz.
  Well,I'm talking to the major tommorrow and tell him about it.We wear all gear , and we ride registered quads.There's no way that slides!!

Ya see ATV complaints are mess up a cops routine. Those calls rob him of time he could be using to do more important task. You know, poking his buddies wife, picking up illegal meds, sleeping behind the substation.....

[MuddyGirlatTheHump]

I'm buying a D.R.R. 50 quad from Greenmachine and he drove from Brandon to Gandy Bch. to let my little girl try it.
  A cop in a Ford F-150 ext. cab with Sheriff on the side,pulled up and told us we couldn't ride our quads there. As he pulls away, a guy on a dirtbike- with no helmet on- comes by and he stops him.
   After five minutes , the guy rides on.When he comes back, he asked if we were gonna ride our quads. After I told him what the Sheriff said, he told us the cop said he was kewl, as long as he didn't do any donuts, or haul azz.
  Well,I'm talking to the major tommorrow and tell him about it.We wear all gear , and we ride registered quads.There's no way that slides!!

Ya see ATV complaints are mess up a cops routine. Those calls rob him of time he could be using to do more important task. You know, poking his buddies wife, picking up illegal meds, sleeping behind the substation.....

Eating at the local donut shop!!!!!!!

Police everywhere have the ability to be 2faced.

It is just a shame that so many of them are!

[Loven It]

Chino - I have meet you and your family and think you were all very nice folks. I was gonna keep my mouth shut on this but the comments folks are making about the cops is not right pertaining to this situation!

From your previous posts you obvisoulsy know that riding is not allowed out there.

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,20580.0.html

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,18903.0.html

[Young Gun]

Chino - I have meet you and your family and think you were all very nice folks. I was gonna keep my mouth shut on this but the comments folks are making about the cops is not right pertaining to this situation!

From your previous posts you obvisoulsy know that riding is not allowed out there.

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,20580.0.html

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,18903.0.html

No offense but who cares about that.  Hes trying to say how the cop told him to leave but the dirtbiker he said could stay.  Not if its legal or illegal.  If you were just going to test something out you have told him and you wouldnt be there long, couldve avoided this whole thing?

[Loven It]

Chino - I have meet you and your family and think you were all very nice folks. I was gonna keep my mouth shut on this but the comments folks are making about the cops is not right pertaining to this situation!

From your previous posts you obvisoulsy know that riding is not allowed out there.

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,20580.0.html

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,18903.0.html

No offense but who cares about that.  Hes trying to say how the cop told him to leave but the dirtbiker he said could stay.  Not if its legal or illegal.  If you were just going to test something out you have told him and you wouldnt be there long, couldve avoided this whole thing?

The point is he is aware of the guy in the F150 as he has posted that before he knows to watch out for him. Why did he know to watch out for him - maybe a previous warning was given to him not to ride there? Who knows.   

As far as the dirt bike that was there - maybe he was given a warning, maybe he was told to leave. None of us will know that - "he said she said". The point I was making is that its not a legal riding area - folks are bashing the cops when the cop is not in the wrong. Wether one was told they could stay or not, the one posting on here was aware there was an F150 that he needed to wach out for. Why do you have to watch out for the truck if its ok to be there?

I see the point you are making that he was only going to be there for a few minutes to let his daughter "test" ride a quad.

See it how you want to see it as no offence was taken to me.

[eldiablo64]

the last time i was there a deputy(not in an f-150)stopped us and told us he researched the situation because there are quite a few people who ride there on quads and dirt bikes.and he said he was told that the dirt frontage road is state owned highway right of way and informed us it was against the law to ride there.and politely asked us not to ride there anymore.he was pretty cool about it.he told us he could ticket us but he warned us and told us if he sees us back there riding he will have no choice but to ticket us.

[greenmachine]

Ok, I cant let Chino get rr'ed here. i met Chino on the beach p[arking area on west side of Gandy @10:30AM Saturday. It was empty, there was probably 5 total cars on the beach & one van full of collegiate rowers. We were not near anyone, heck the hot dog vendors werent even there yet!!! He was parked before I arrived, i pulled up in my truck/trailer. My 8yr old son unloaded the little 50cc quad, it looks mean as hell, but nothing compared to a CR250. Before Chino's daughter could even throw her leg over it, a cop comes pulling up to us almost immediately & says, "no riding out here". I explained that I drove 20 miles to meet him to attempt to sell my sons quad & his little girl just wanted to do a turn around the truck & see if it is something she wouls like. He firmly told me again, "if i see ANYONE riding out here I am instructed to stroke them a ticket & this is your warning" I very politely again explained that we were NOT here to ride or cut up, just a conveneint location to meet for a possible sale of a quad for a KID. I asked if we could have 5 minutes & his response was "dont be here when I get back" & he started to drive off.
As soonas he started to drive off a 40something guy comes hauling ass on a CR250 & the cop calls him over to the truck. They chatted fro about 10 minutes & then the cop leaves. The guy on the CR250 pulls up to us immediately & asks if we are "gonna unload those things & ride or what?"
We said heck no, the cop just told us to load up & leave or we would get ticketed!!!!
The CR250 rider said he was asked to "take it easy & no wheelies or donuts" and the cop told him it was ok for him to ride.
Now I dont know where anyone else is from, but from my neck of the woods that is just wrong.
Last time I checked a CR250 & a 50cc mini quad were both considered OHV's.
My last question is the dirt road law, the parking area is a dirt road so why cant an OHV just ride slowly back & forth, wouldnt be fun.

[garym]

Leave the cops alone...they have a hard enough job...

[gtnwood]

For 1 you are ass suming that what the guy on the dirt said was true and completely accurate, and 2 evreyone else is ass suming you are being truthful and completely accurate, and 3 when he responded dont be here when I get back probably meant do the test ride just dont let him come back and see ya'll. Come on ya'll were in the wrong not the cop, cheese and rice.

[Young Gun]

For 1 you are ass suming that what the guy on the dirt said was true and completely accurate, and 2 evreyone else is ass suming you are being truthful and completely accurate, and 3 when he responded dont be here when I get back probably meant do the test ride just dont let him come back and see ya'll. Come on ya'll were in the wrong not the cop, cheese and rice.

Yeah when you think of it he has a point.  The guy on the dirtbike could have been lying through his teeth, you never know about them dirtbikers

[greenmachine]

For the sake of doubters, the guy on the CR stayed longer than we did & never stopped buzzing back & forth, then 2 more yz cycles showed up as well. We left. I never said one bad thing about the cop except he was 2faced & blount about it. Maybe when some people post on here they have reason to lie, but I am 36yo with 2 kids, I DONT LIE! Gtnwood, dont ASS sume you know anything about me & I wont ASS sume you are illiterate & cant spell assume correctly. It is what it was. No harm done to me, I dont ever need or want to ride there. It was obvious that we werent there to ride. Chino is still gonna buy the quad & I am still gonna ride with him sometime, so all in all it was a good day. The cop never came back & I do beleive he gave us the time like he said he would, he just likes to instill a little fear to get respect just like all cops, it is their job.

[gtnwood]

Not a doubter, just dont believe everything I read and only half of what I see. By the way this thread is Cops hate quads big and small is that not also an assumption? It probably is, because I ride quads with several cops who are just as perplexed and disappointed with the lack of riding areas as the rest of us. Maybe, just maybe they are in actuallity trying to keep all the areas for themselves, because you know how those cops are

[1FasterBlaster]

   I stated earlier that I don't think all cops are bad.But after the officer pulled away, the dirtbike rider kept on riding.Two other bikes pulled in and the officer made a U-turn and drove back by and said nothing to the other two bikers.
  If you weren't there, then don't try to tell me what I saw.I didn't need the words of one biker.There's a difference of enforcing the law, and just being a thingy to certain people.
  Everytime I've been out there, I see dirtbikes and no quads.As soon as someone arrives with a quad, the same officer shows up.And I said,"To look out for this officer-Loven It-is because I've been out there on my quad, and a few other Sheriff's and State Troopers have pulled in and did nothing.This guy is the only one who runs me out of there...you do the Math!!
   I know it's not a legal riding area, but it also doesn't say it isn't.If you run me off, kewl.But don't tell me I can't ride there and someone else can.
  Hell, I'll post for every dirtbiker to go out there, at least you'll have a place to ride!!

[eldiablo64]

yeah if he told you to leave he should have told the dirtbikes to leave to.the first time we were there an older deputy pulled up and jokingly asked my son if he could ride his banshee my son said sure but the deputy said he couldn't while he was on duty.he also said his son rides his dirt bike out there.maybe the dirtbike you saw was this deputies son!.but he was the only cool cop we ran into out there.I will never go there to putt around again.

[gtnwood]

Something does'nt smell right, are you positive this guy is a real cop. It just does'nt sound like something a cop would say or do. It would be stupid for him to discriminate as to who is and is'nt allowed to break the law, because it would be too easy for someone such as yourself to make a complaint to his agency/supervisor and therefore cause himself grief. Even if he is a Richard Head cop now, he wont be any kind of cop for long if he treats the public that way.

[94Hardbody4x4]

Legal or Illegal, I ride everywhere. I find no problem in riding on vacant, unused land and having fun if I'm not annoying or hurting anyone. I know better now not to ride on wetland or anythign like that where actual animals live. you may say that mudholes are prestine wildlife sancutaryies, but what the hell lives in a gas and oil covered hole that 100 trucks run through everyday?

If I want to have fun, I will have fun. If a Sherrif or Police Officer comes, I will always stop and explain the situation. Most of the time they are pretty damn cool about it and simply ask us to leave. They respect us if we respect them most of the time.

[1FasterBlaster]

   His vehicle was marked with Pinellas Cnty. Sheriff on the sides and he had on a uniform.Maybe someone on a quad out rode him or something like that.Either way, A complaint will be filed on his behalf.

[Gato]

Chino did you get the # on the car too?

[1FasterBlaster]

No, but the dispatch said the major will be able to determine who it was by patrol command.Besides, he's the only one I've seen with the extended cab F-150

[Loven It]

Seriously to tell me to do the math is crazy. Legal riding vs non legal riding.
Kid or adult the rule is the same.

When someone states they know it is not a legal riding area, then does a post to say cops hate quads big and small just irritates me. Cops don't like any rider who has been told before espically by the same cop not to ride somewhere!

The point I am making is Scratchup has obvisouly been told not to be there before - correct me if I am wrong. I am not talking about the dirt bike guys espically since no one will ever know what the cop told him. He could have very well told them to be gone before he got back too. Maybe someone called before and complained about the quad being there and not the dirt bike. Who knows. Either way you have been told before not to be there. The cop seemed pretty fair to not ticket you or take the bike. But you are right the cop was in the wrong    ....seriuosly.

[Loven It]

Seriously to tell me to do the math is crazy. Legal riding vs non legal riding.
Kid or adult the rule is the same.

When someone states they know it is not a legal riding area, then does a post to say cops hate quads big and small just irritates me. Cops don't like any rider who has been told before espically by the same cop not to ride somewhere!

The point I am making is Scratchup has obvisouly been told not to be there before - correct me if I am wrong. I am not talking about the dirt bike guys espically since no one will ever know what the cop told him. He could have very well told them to be gone before he got back too. Maybe someone called before and complained about the quad being there and not the dirt bike. Who knows. Either way you have been told before not to be there. The cop seemed pretty fair to not ticket you or take the bike. But you are right the cop was in the wrong    ....seriuosly.

No offence, but you really seem to have it out for Chino, does he have some freaky pics of you or what? Maybe you should have taken the time to read between the lines, the only quad touching dirt was a 50cc mini, & it was mine. Chinos quad was never unstrapped from his trailer & the gate never down! Your argument is coming down to unfounded accusations & is losing ground. Last time I checked it wasnt illegal to park your truck on any empty stretch of sand with a quad ON THE TRAILER! As for the dirtbiker, he was there as well a 2 yz125's after we left, so if the cop told them to leave or get a ticket like he told us, They are either ignorant & deaf & enjoy paying tickets, or just told the truth to us about what he(the cop) said. In a pessimistic life you assume the worst & everyone is a liar & your glass is always half empty. I like to think mine is half full. Lighten up a bit, we did nothing wrong & we didnt get ticketed & neither did the MX guys, but they actually kept riding after we left. When we stated to the officer we werent riding, just testing for a sale, my 8yr old son & Chinos young daughter were standing right there next to his truck as well, he should have lightened up on us & said finish up & no hot dogging, then leave, that would have been the reasonable thing to do & we wouldnt have this thread, but he chose to pull rank & make a demand to us & not the 2wheelers which was obvious by them riding on the pipe(not putting) as he pulled away & after we left. Now I really think you should at least try to "do the math" on this fact & quit insinuating we are liars.

Yeah - he has naked pics of me - grow up - read what I have written and stop trying to see something that is not there!

Let me clarify this again for those who still think my way of thinking is out of line. I have nothing out for Chino - I thought him and his family were nice people.

My issue was never with Chino or what happened out there. My issues was with the post   (I am entitled to an opinion) and how people instantly start to insult the cops for doing their job.

The point I was making was the cop is not wrong for telling someone to leave, espically since he has told the same person before to leave! Thats the key here - told in past to leave, comes back, gets upset he is told to leave again. I am not loosing ground on my argument. You can keep reiterating (sp) your story as again I don't care about what happened out there. To make a post bad mouthing a cop or state/make rude comments about someone in law enforcement doing their job - when someone knows damn well not to go out there is uncalled for - THAT IS THE POINT I WAS MAKING! You are right I must really need to do the math. 

I am so sick of people bitching about the police and how wrong they are. Yet when someone HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY TOLD NOT TO BE OUT THERE - and goes again (regardless of what else is going on out there) and comes on here and whines because a dirt bike rider was not told to leave (which no one knows since no one was there to hear the conversation) is just not right.

Also I never have insuinated (sp) you or Chino was a liar. What unfounded accusations have I made?

Chino - if you feel i have insuinated you are a liar - I'll buy ya freakin beer man.

[greenmachine]

Doing your job is one thing, doing it unfairly is another. If it is illegal for me then it is illegal for them. As for you not insinuating we are lying, you keep saying the dirt bikers story could be a farce. I guess you feel the guy is a complete moron & likes to pay tickets & resist officers blatantly!!!!(which is definitely ILLEGAL) We were told to leave & did so, he(the dirtbiker) kept riding as the cop was still leaving the parking area in plain view, so why would the older guy lie to us & look completely surprised that we were told to leave? Please answer that one. When I pulled out I saw the deputy inthe F150 coming back westbound right in front of the beach & the dirtbikes were still there but no attempt to stop them. Chino apparently knew not to ride his quad there as it was NEVER unstrapped from the trailer. We are talking about a kids quad & 2 little kids standing there watching & listenening to a representative of Law Enforcement pulling rank & assuming we were there to ride. I wasnt happy, but the kids were much more upset by this. You can keep hashing this, but the story is the same & wont change. Maybe we should just agree that you are right & thats that

[Loven It]

Doing your job is one thing, doing it unfairly is another. If it is illegal for me then it is illegal for them. As for you not insinuating we are lying, you keep saying the dirt bikers story could be a farce. I guess you feel the guy is a complete moron & likes to pay tickets & resist officers blatantly!!!!(which is definitely ILLEGAL) We were told to leave & did so, he(the dirtbiker) kept riding as the cop was still leaving the parking area in plain view, so why would the older guy lie to us & look completely surprised that we were told to leave? Please answer that one. When I pulled out I saw the deputy inthe F150 coming back westbound right in front of the beach & the dirtbikes were still there but no attempt to stop them. Chino apparently knew not to ride his quad there as it was NEVER unstrapped from the trailer. We are talking about a kids quad & 2 little kids standing there watching & listenening to a representative of Law Enforcement pulling rank & assuming we were there to ride. I wasnt happy, but the kids were much more upset by this. You can keep hashing this, but the story is the same & wont change. Maybe we should just agree that you are right & thats that

What the hell are you talking about? Seriously have you actually read any of my posts. I never said nor implied that the dirt bike riders story was a farce - stop making sh*t up! Read all of my posts I think most of them state - WE WILL NEVER KNOW WhAT WAS SAID TO THE DIRT BIKE GUYS AS NONE OF US WERE THERE WHILE COP WAS TALKING TO HIM! Stop seeing stuff that isn't there man.

To answer your question - I have no idea. Chino has had previous encounters wether it be one or more with the cop in question. Gee ya think that could be why the cop again told him to leave again as he had in the past? 

You are absoutely correct - the story won't change. Illegal area to ride a quad, was told to leave by the same cop that has told the same person to leave in the past, but the real issue you 2 have is: IT WASN'T FAIR. So lets act like kids and say the cops hate quads, post a thread to get others to jump on the bad wagon about how cops suck! That is the bottom line! Doesn't get any clearer than that.
Post away I have nothing further to say - your were correct in saying I am right -you have no point other than it wasn't fair!

I'm done with this - ya want me to buy you a beer too? No scarsam I'd love too! 
 

[Loven It]

greenmachine - I sent ya a pm 

[bluesman]

just be lucky he didnt tazer you to death!!!!!
 
           and claim your death wasnt related to the tazer!!!!

[Thrumud]

I have to admit, I made some comments on this post that were not appropriate and very short minded. My comments were based on pure sarcasm, therefore I removed them.  Speaking more appropriately, there will always be bad apples in every bunch just like in our bunch.

[94Hardbody4x4]

Whats the big deal here? Nothing legal can be done about it and I can gurentee the Sherrif's office wont give a rats ass about someone complaining about one person being asked to leave and someone else not to. Theres no evidence besides word of mouth and they have more important things to do. Go find another open field to test ride an 80cc 4-wheeler in. And no, not all cops are honest. But that is a good thing sometimes. Everytime the cops have caught us fourwheeling(trucks or atv) they simply ask us to leave. If we're doing something illegal but still give them respect, it's a simple tresspassing warning and they let you on your way.

[1FasterBlaster]

   I had no problem with him enforcing the rules.Whether or not he reckognized me or not,you don't tell me not to ride and let somone else ride there in my face.Along with the other two riders.I saw what I saw. The first rider kept on riding in front of the cop, and then the other two pulled up and he said nothing.
   Maybe my initial post was a little broad...but would would you expect if you were done the same?

[greenmachine]

  All good here, just a debate to me. I am definitely not a cop hater & I understand its they're job. Although it did appear he was more lenient on the bikes, thats all this started as. No hard feelings to anyone not even the cop. Like I said it was still a good day for all involved.

Loven It, I'll take a heineken & the next ones on me.

[backwoods boy]

well personally i think cops are frikin stupid atleast the majority i know and can be outran on any ohv so give em a nice friendly wave of the finger n haul outta there 

[xr100racer]

Everytime the cops have caught us fourwheeling(trucks or atv) they simply ask us to leave. If we're doing something illegal but still give them respect, it's a simple tresspassing warning and they let you on your way.

yeah right, last time we got caught by the cops i pulled up next to the officer and before i even had a chance to explain why we were riding there austin threw a beer bottle at the cruiser and screamed "screw the future of ohv parks!" and tore off on his bike.  respect, i think not. watch out for that guy

i know and can be outran on any ohv so give em a nice friendly wave of the finger n haul outta there 

good look on that trx250 bud

[1FasterBlaster]

   Geez, I don't know why anyone had to get worked up-Loven It!! You have your opinion;true.I just posted what mine was because of what happenned.Your luck may be better when it comes to police...good for you.You insulted me by saying I'm a kid for saying what I said, and I'm whining?   My opinion is mine.I didn't post this for you to insult me.
  What happenned had it's affect, and it won't change.The whole thing was about doing the right thing ,and he didn't do that.
   They want a good repoir with me, then they need to respect me.I didn't go out there to break the law or disrespect any police, and that's what your making this out to be.
   Yes I've been run out of there before, but I WASN'T riding.Everyone get's upset when anyone says anything bad about Law Enforcement...there people just like us.Just cause they wear a badge doesn't make them saints;they do wrong also!!If it's your team, cheer them on!