quad only mx series we need more support

[tony pitts]

this is a great series for florida. we have allready lost one track for the series for lack of money to pay the high price of insurance. if we want to continue this sport we need to really support this. I have been thinking of ways to help out this situation. it cost these tracks around 1300.00 to put on a race if we have a decent turnout and raise the race fee to 30.00 that would pay half of the insurance right there.and for those racing more than one race don't get all panicy we could keep each additional race the same price of 25.00. unfortuanetly these races are not cheap to run with all the other cost labor ambulance etc... if any body has any better ideas we will be glad to listen. just trying to help brett and this series do well for the future. P.S. brett if you have anything to add  go ahead.

[hondaquad19]

what track have we lost

[tony pitts]

pax track

[blindkaeta]

I think this is kinda bull, he told Brett that his bulldozer was broken.  Can't people just be honest?

[Exmx54]

I think we all should work together to raise money. Raising the prices may drive away some of the people who are already struggling to get to the races. We should think of some kind of a fund raiser. Maybe some of the series sponsors could step up, like we can hold raffles to get coupons or free services. Just think how much money we could raise to get a 50% off Walsh coupon, I think just about all of us could use or, or maybe something like a discount on a built ATP motor. Anything along those lines would draw in a ton of money, and have all of the procedes go towards paying the track fees and such.

[tony pitts]

I am not sure that raising the price 5 bucks is going to break us but it will help the tracks recover the cost of the insurance that they don't normally have to have for local races. the main problem seems to be the insurance we have to have for this series.

[Exmx54]

It's true $5 isnt much, but a lot ofpeople are already complaining it costs too much to race, $25 practice, $25 entry fee, $25 per class, it all adds up. I'm not saying anything about the pricing, just saying most people are already complaining its too expensive to race, wouldn't want a raise in price to drive away anybody. We would most likely benefit from drawing in money elseware (i.e. donations, raffles, etc...). I'm no expert being just 16, but I figure if anything, raising the prices wil drive away some, and could possibly drive away some who were thinking about joining the series.

[tony pitts]

I also am no expert. but this series has just started if we want it to grow were going to have to support it until it gets big enough to grow on its own sponsor ships do not come that easy and shops like atp are small business. its hard enough to keep your own business going let alone somebody elses it was very good of them to do what they did.

[TRX450R_Racer]

How about contacting AMA for help.

[tony pitts]

I dont know. this race is nqra sanctioned not ama that would be a good question for brett.

[IFC Racing52]

Are we sure we lost PAX .....  or is he just holding out for more money!!

[hondaquad19]

how much does a track need to pocket of are money in a weekend

[tony pitts]

they are claiming to have lost 800.00 on that race

[310R_Dude]

Is all this becuase of the 'NQRA" tie in?

Losing 800.00 means they didn't even break
even, right? That sucks.

[Mrs.Nightbreed]

800.00  That makes no sense. With the number of people for the gate fee and the number of people that practiced on Saturday there is no way they would have made that much money just opening for a weekend practice. Much less adding the money they get out of the entry fees. I am sorry but , trophies and flaggers couldn't have possibly cost THAT much....

[tony pitts]

I don't no the politics of i wish i did so i could figure it out. I just know we need to get together and do something if we want to keep this thing going.

[trx#9]

Well screw Pax then, There's a lot of other tracks we can run at, what about bartow, sunshine, hardrock, seminole or lakeland. I know sunshine would put on a race and lakeland wouldn't have a problem with another date. These tracks aren't use to large numbers of riders anyways and there costs are not as large as some of these other larger tracks. Seminole is owned by the indian casino so they gets large tax breaks from the government, So the smaller series wouldn't probably bother them. They probably get a cheaper rate on insurance too. What about bartow too! I think if we can pull in at least  125 riders plus things would work out. I know theres a lot of riders on these web site that are not participating in this series. I think we can all do a little better in drumming up some more riders too! So for all you jack a$$es that are not showing up you better get your a$$es in gear because I don't want you here you all complaining about the sereis not being here next year.    Just my 2 cents!!!!!

[tony pitts]

800.00  That makes no sense. With the number of people for the gate fee and the number of people that practiced on Saturday there is no way they would have made that much money just opening for a weekend practice. Much less adding the money they get out of the entry fees. I am sorry but , trophies and flaggers couldn't have possibly cost THAT much....

 I agree but it came straight from the owner of pax track he told me they lost 800.00 and he told me there not going to have another one there. that race i guess he is comparing to other races where he does'nt have to pay insurance for.I am just trying to solve a problem before it gets worse because if they did'nt make money there is no way waldo made money cause that turnout was'nt as good as pax.

[tony pitts]

this can be a great thing for fla. we just need to work a little harder at it if we want to keep it.

[Exmx54]

Seminole would be an awsome place to host a race. They have a huge track, and HUGE stands! They have also had their own "quad only" race there, so I am more than willing to bet that they would host a SSQSA race!

[tony pitts]

yea thats a nice place I will be racing there in nov for an ftr quadscramble woods and track race

[dreth]

sounds fishy to me! if it cost 1300$ to put on a race like that and i have 103 people come at an average of 60$ per person and he lost money then he needs to start shaking down his employees before they leave work or buy a new calclator

[trx#9]

I think the owner of Waldo said his insurance for the weekend was 1900. Plus the medics and 14 flaggers added on top of that.

[Exmx54]

I think the owner of Waldo said his insurance for the weekend was 1900. Plus the medics and 14 flaggers added on top of that.

They gate entry fees most likely will cover the insurance AND staff AND ambulence costs. Figure I paid my $25 for the weekend, dad paid his $25, and I also brought a friend (another $25). Figure there was like a 100 quad turnout, and most people brought a friend or family member, $25 x 150 = MORE THAN ENOUGH! Then you also have practice fees, and the cost of each class. I think the owner from Pax was pissed at the problems they had during practice

[310R_Dude]

I think the races being a two day event hurts also. That's a
different level of commitment than your typical Saturday nite
Dade City(insert local track here) race. Some will talk the talk
but not walk the walk when it comes down to showing up.

Track owners know what they need(racer entries) in order for
it to be worth while to them. It's not some type of mystery.

Probably just not enough depth of "quad racing motocross fools",
in Florida!

Still...  hope and try for the best )
Dano - #39