xc/gncc/cross country/hars scramble setup.

[Fox17]

what would be a good setup for basically ridin and racin trails and an occasional mx race? i was thinkin 22 inch front gncc holeshots and 20 in the rear. what bout suspension? is wider or stock good? i would think you would want more ground clearance. a 96 db pipe. nerfs, bumper. what bout skids? any help would be appreciated.

[svtbolt04]

I would get skids

22's or 21's on the front is rider preference.

Shocks, If you have the stockers, Send them to laz at GT thunder to get revalved and resrpung. A great deal.

I run stock pipe, some people are getting by with aftermarket ones, but I dont know forsure what ones.

I wouldnt go with wider if you plan on riding XC courses. The widest would be a +1, but most people run +.5.

Nerfs is another thing.. If you want them, go for it. Some people done run them at all.

Skids, I would definatly get the swingarm skid and the body skid. If you are going to run the stock arms with the GT thunder setup, get arm skids too.

A bumper should be big enough to protect our shocks and arms. Most run the PRM baja bumpers. IMS makes a good bumper.

[#13_LT-R450]

Skids, bumper, 21 or 22's in the front, and probably  revalved shocks.

[svtbolt04]

Skids, bumper, 21 or 22's in the front, and probably  revalved shocks.

Hey good job on posting exactly what I had already said!

[Chillinthemost]

Just go race. I won my first race at Holowpaw last Jan. on a STOCK YFZ. Then decide if you like it and buy what you need.
  

[Tripyn]

I have rode the Orange Crush GNCC track several times and wide is not what you want. I ended up going with GT Thunders' after getting my a$$ kicked every weekend, best money I have spent yet. I also went with the GNCC's, they track great and dig in-that is what I was looking for. I do not like nerfs-I  bought the IMS Pegs & Heel Guards, no more slipp'n of the pegs but after getting your foot run over a few times, some would opt for nerfs.  With the IMS package you can always add nerfs later.

I agree with Chill'n-try a few tracks/hard X Trails or local hare scrambles on your stock bike.  Then add if you need to-I thought I was on the mac daddy at first-then I got tired of being sore all the time, feet slipping of the pegs and tires not digg'n in. 

[Fox17]

well i ride really hard and fast through the trails i ride in. do you know of any hare scramble/gncc type tracks in florida? i want to race quad scrambles next year. but for now im gonna stick to getting in shape and practicing on trails whenever i can. come next year i will be ready. in the mean time i would like to try a few tracks like that. let me know if you know of any. thanks.

[Yamaha72]

Don't forget about the tires... Of course the bigger the tire the smoother the ride is going to be persay, yet you will have more "bump steer" which means you will feel all the little sh*t that much more basically. It is up to you but in more roots/rocky conditions I would shoot for the 21's. Oh and BUY A STEERING STABILIZER. 

[svtbolt04]

well i ride really hard and fast through the trails i ride in. do you know of any hare scramble/gncc type tracks in florida? i want to race quad scrambles next year. but for now im gonna stick to getting in shape and practicing on trails whenever i can. come next year i will be ready. in the mean time i would like to try a few tracks like that. let me know if you know of any. thanks.

Best way to practice for a national is to ride a race. The trails you are riding on wont be nearly as bad as a real race. The track changes every lap. Whoops, mud comes up, short cuts.. It all changes. You need to get out there and ride a harescramble event to actually know what they are like.

Yamaha72 was right, steering stabilizer is a great investment. If you dont have one and dont have suspension.. I would get the stabilizer before suspension.

[debatethis]

I don't pesonally race them but know a few people that do. There are some great suggestions above and I agree with the steering stabilizer.

About the tires- the people that I know that race have all gone to either te Holeshot HD or the Razr2's  they say that the thicker tires with the knobs way out on the side really help in the muck and mud you race in. They say they are much better than the regular holeshot or razr type tires. Just passing on what I'm told. Hope this helps.

Cain

[Fox17]

thanks for all the replies. im thinkin 21s in the front, 20s in the back, swinger and body skid, stabilizer, bumper, hand gaurds, and nerfs. im prolly gonna try it on a stock (well a bike with all necessary parts) bike to try it and if i like it ill make it a bad machine.

[PLEDGER#76]

My set-up is steering dampner, bellyskid, 20" regular razrs rear, 21" razr2 fronts, twist throttle, and a whole lot of riding to get in shape, like SVTBOLT says, the trails you are riding are nothing like the whooped out trails you will be racing on....
I say come out to the Seminole quad scrambles race on november 4th and give it a try....

[Fox17]

but you gotta join every fricken association there is relating to atvs/bikes. i cost too much to do that right now. that is why im waitin til next year.

[Chillinthemost]

Come ride with me sometime, it will give you an idea if you are ready.

[Fox17]

ok. leme know in advance so i can get off.

[digginfool]

Best advice I saw on this thread is not to go too wide.  That's an expensive mistake.  If I had it to do all over again....    Gives a great ride when I'm on open trails but when it gets tight in the woods, those extra couple inches seem like a foot compared to stock.  Can't say enough about aftermarket shocks, though.  No matter how good you think your stock shocks are, they don't even begin to compare to top quality equipment available from the aftermarket.  Skids and nerfs are important for protection of machine and feet/legs.  You'll regret not having them the first time your leg gets sucked under the back tire or you smash your knee into a tree you just slid into.  The skids will literally save you thousands of dollars.  Don't believe?  Price out a set of engine cases and labor to rebuild your motor.  For that matter, carrier housings aren't cheap either.  Have fun and get in shape now.

[Fox17]

shocks are very expensive though. im thinkin gt thunder. definately gettin skids and nerfs. i seen a guy run over his foot and i wont ride without them. so basically the only real expensive thing it shocks. thats god. i can get everything else for under a grand. thanks for the advice. o and i will have lots of fun getting in shape. trust me.

[Eric5555]

nerf are a must... i learned the hard way,my 400 has nerfs but i was ridin my dads and his didnt and i got hit in the shin by a root and my shin looked likea pear.lol