Badluck - CLOSED AGAIN!!!!!! 11/21/04

[NaplesRaptor]

I just got back from Badluck/Squares in Naples. We stopped at the State Forestry Ranger office and the ranger said NO MORE PERMITS! in fact he said NO MORE RIDING!!! Not by his order- he was VERY disappointed and seemed upset. He said the Feds stepped in and told the State Forestry division that they could not give out permits and that riding is not permited. This happened at a meeting on the 18th.

A few days ago I received and e-mail from a federal level  activist/lobbyist group that they could not help us as it was state land... Looks like I'll have to contact them again about this as the Feds are the ones stopping us now.

We must have passed at least 50 quads heading out that way on trucks as we drove back home.

Keep an eye on this topic as I am going to do my best to post any important contct info I can come up with. The Ranger suggested to complain to as many government officials as possible.

For what it's worth- it did not seem like there were any federal officers enforcing the "no ride" rule....

[Redgrizzly660]

Thanks for the info Gregg

[bbf]

this is not good . just when we thought we could ride out there

[sk8r_dude]

I guess we all need to go on another phone call/letter/e-mail campaign.

[jjamesbar]

if its state land why are the feds mandating policy?

jeff

[GreggT]

That's what causes the confusion here. It's state land, but it was designated as a federal wildlife management sanctuary.

[yfzmasterr]

Your right, they are not giving out any more permits. At least for now. But we did ride there Saturday all day(we were probably the 50 bikes you saw). I also had friends that rode there on Sunday.

[big-daddy]

I also had friends that rode there on Sunday. saw them that night. they didnt say anything just how much fun they haded

[NaplesRaptor]

I also had friends that rode there on Sunday. saw them that night. they didnt say anything just how much fun they haded

They probably neglected to stop at the Ranger's office to try to get a permit.

[NaplesRaptor]

Here is the e-mail i recieved the other day:

Hi Greg,

Thanks for the email.  Since it is state land, there is not much we can do here in Washington, where we are working hard to keep access to federal lands.  There are some good organizations that are working hard in Florida to help keep lands open for riding.  If you haven't already, you might contact the National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council representatives in Florida as well as the state OHV association.  Here is their contact info:

NOHVCC contacts:  
Jack Terrell
180 Sunrise Hill Lane
Auburndale, FL  33823
Phone, Home:  (863) 984-9294
Work: (863) 984-5311
Fax:  (863) 984-9235
E-mail: fltrlrdr@aol.com




Jenni Lamb
3165 Brentwood Lane
Melbourne, FL 32934
Phone: 407-752-7461
E-mail: ovine2@aol.com
Wayne Briske
8931 Scenic Hills Drive
Pensacola, FL 32514
850-476-7308
E-mail: wbblue272@cox.net  

Florida Trail Riders
P. O. Box 531071
DeBary, FL 32713-1071
Contact: Dan George
Business Manager

Phone: 407-668-9700
Fax: 386-668-8421
E-mail: debarydg@bellsouth.net
Web: www.floridatrailriders.org  



Please let me know if I can help you get any more information.  I know the fight is frustrating and difficult, but keep up the good work!



Sincerely,

Evan Haglund
Americans for Responsible Recreational Access
www.ARRA-access.com
ehaglund@legstrat.com

[Thrumud]

Well guys, the group ride for Dec 4th is canceled for now. Keep checking in with this post to see if there are any changes.  

[Thrumud]

NaplesRaptor, please keep us informed.  

[500runner]

DAM TREE HUGGERS!!!!!!!  at it again!!!  Like i have posted before, the FWC will never let ATV use go on there again. i know from a inside source that the FWC is getting pressure from eviro wackos to STOP OHV USE on all state lands and mgt areas, look what happen in the BIG CYPRESS, and OCALA. the FWC use to be on our side but when the FL.ATV.TITLE SCAM came out and the FWC lost the $10.00 user fee sticker to ride on mgt land, FWC could care  less about ATVERS!!!!  STOP  THE TITLE SCAM!!!!  

[500runner]

lets be a force in the state, let JEB know !!!!  ATVERS VOTE!!!!!!!!