Ocala Thunderbowl Flattrack Sat April 15 and 22nd. How many more?

[Hoosier Daddy]

The guy who built my banshee said it puts out around 70+hp and tops out at 114mph. I highly doubt it. hp and top speed dont mean anything in mx and tt racing. Anyway, who all is going this weekend? I was thinking about it but its no fun if there is nobody there.

70hp is possiable but the 114 is doubtful. what kind of motor work do you have?

[1fastltr450]

Yeah I know as was I....
You know there is a shooting range @ durhamtown... wanna go shooting..

Gina said they have skeet shooting, pool tables, fishing and all this other stuff. to bad were not going for a week so we can do other things too.

yeah I seen all that we might have to plan another trip next year and maybe try to stay longer if we like it, we could always take some fishing poles and if we get tired of riding we could fish, I just hope it dont rain while we are there it gets nasty

[1fastltr450]

Ahh we all know its all in fun brotha,ill back off and let you and slow4sissyr play 

no need for the dyno my makes 40.2 hp
and hell a moped can beat me if they know how to ride it haha
80% rider
20% quad
a 200hp motor doesnt make you any faster if you cant use it!
I jsut gotta rag on you guys thats just me 
Ask quad32

heres a link for them shocks
http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_atv/atv_index.htm
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this slow sissy finished in front of you lol glad you had a good time and hope you come back

[Hoosier Daddy]

Yeah I know as was I....
You know there is a shooting range @ durhamtown... wanna go shooting..

Gina said they have skeet shooting, pool tables, fishing and all this other stuff. to bad were not going for a week so we can do other things too.

yeah I seen all that we might have to plan another trip next year and maybe try to stay longer if we like it, we could always take some fishing poles and if we get tired of riding we could fish, I just hope it dont rain while we are there it gets nasty

Well Gina said she wants to go fishing and skeet shooting...

[HillKiller]

I havent heard from fastleftturn but slow in the straight away in a  while. could you please take your brother a cold glass of water and a blood presure pill.

     Like I said before get out of the beginner class and back with experienced riders where you belong, cradle robber!   Also, I wasn't going to say anything about my poor performance last week but since you brought it up it turns out sometime during last Saturday night I lost the filter off the left carb. So not only was that carb full of clay the next day but the plug on the left cylinder is toast, yes it got really lean. Anyway , I have a new filter on the way  and a new plug so I can run with those of you who will be there on the 15th. Maybe I will drop a class so I can be a winner like you.....pffffttttt!!!!  Where's the smiley with his tongue stuck out???

[LT-R450ApK]

funny how Ama runs 250cc 2-stroke with the 450 four stroke but yall build 300 plus cc's to compete why is that? 

Love ya chris 

I can answer that one. Because we race the Open class and big bores are faster. Don't kid your self either, the Honda 250R was banned from the Nationals or it would still be a force, they had too so people would switch to 4 strokes. The 250R is old now and Honda won't re-release it for what ever reason. But I think Derek and I are proof that they can still be competitive.

banned? then why the 265 class? the R is far from banned but it has takin a back seat because of  Pro Production class

[Quad32x]

Knobs.

[Hoosier Daddy]

funny how Ama runs 250cc 2-stroke with the 450 four stroke but yall build 300 plus cc's to compete why is that? 

Love ya chris 

I can answer that one. Because we race the Open class and big bores are faster. Don't kid your self either, the Honda 250R was banned from the Nationals or it would still be a force, they had too so people would switch to 4 strokes. The 250R is old now and Honda won't re-release it for what ever reason. But I think Derek and I are proof that they can still be competitive.

banned? then why the 265 class? the R is far from banned but it has takin a back seat because of  Pro Production class

hes talking the pro classes, if i remember right it was a big issue in the cross country classes. i remember them banning them a few years back.
something to the effect of it having to be a current production quad...
Dave may remember something about it.

[derek330]

funny how Ama runs 250cc 2-stroke with the 450 four stroke but yall build 300 plus cc's to compete why is that? 

Love ya chris 
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I can answer that one. Because we race the Open class and big bores are faster. Don't kid your self either, the Honda 250R was banned from the Nationals or it would still be a force, they had too so people would switch to 4 strokes. The 250R is old now and Honda won't re-release it for what ever reason. But I think Derek and I are proof that they can still be competitive.

banned? then why the 265 class? the R is far from banned but it has takin a back seat because of  Pro Production class

well fist of all yall have a advantage because you are 200cc bigger. why dont you try to build a 250cc 4 banger and race my 250. HA!!!!!! you will get smoked!!!  besides i got a 250 that will outrun 450's all day long!!!!!! anywhere!!!!! not to mention my 330!!  the 4 strokes are taking over because they are new and anyone can buy one at the dealer. if they still made 250R's no one would buy a 4 stroke. why would they, there not as fast!!!!!!

[LT-R450ApK]

oh boy im not even gonna touch that post a pissin match waiting to happen


See you at the track

[Scott270r]

oh boy im not even gonna touch that post a pissin match waiting to happen


See you at the track

I've got a 265 cc stock cylinder ported by CT. Just for fun and to test what your theory is about 450's verses 265's I would be willing to race you guys on my old 265 (No 500cc big bores No Banshee's and no 330 Hondas) I could drop down into the beginner class one race weekend and see how it would do in a shootout.

P.S. No one likes to be told there bike is a piece of crap, we all have alot invested in what we got, I am stuck with a 250R to race because that's what I got and I can't afford to switch and start over. I personally like my old 2-stroke and plan on proving without a doubt that on any given weekend this bike can run up front. That's all I am saying.

P.S.S. If any of you guys want to Give me sweet 450R or YFZ450 or LTR450R I would be very grateful LOL I have never ridden either of those bikes but from racing against them I know they are fast.

[Pyrice4]

My Banshe is bored out to 402cc with all aftermarket engine parts, bigger carbs, boost bottle, k&n filters w/o airbox, ported, coolhead, Toomey T5 pipes, the whole bottom end is redone, and alot of other thing I dont even know are there. I havent got it dynoed yet.  How much hp should i have?

[Hoosier Daddy]

45-50ish.....
70hp on stock cylinders on gas is tough to do. unless its STRICKLY  drag motor..

How do you have it bored out to a 402? what size pistons are you running?

[LT-R450ApK]

hmmmm a 265 with port work and the port timing changed woohoo nothing stock about that motor or cylinder so dont say its stock... thats good for another 20+ hp and lets add a set of cams a timing chain,and 4 vavles and lets see it move all them parts and make that power because it wont your talking about to different times lets give the engine builders 20 years to perfect the 4-stroke motor like they have had on the R then talk

[Hoosier Daddy]

i have a buddy who is selling a bone stock 2005 450r for 4500
Im guessing it has maybe 15 hrs on it...

[Hoosier Daddy]

Thats IT! ALL the 2 strokers ban together and lets show these 4 bangers what its all about!   

Sorry scooter had to get it in there...

[Scott270r]

hmmmm a 265 with port work and the port timing changed woohoo nothing stock about that motor or cylinder so dont say its stock... thats good for another 20+ hp and lets add a set of cams a timing chain,and 4 vavles and lets see it move all them parts and make that power because it wont your talking about to different times lets give the engine builders 20 years to perfect the 4-stroke motor like they have had on the R then talk

No I meant get your 450's with some engine work but keep it a 450. I know there is a Honda that claims to be stock but is rumored to actually be a big bore 530 kit. Yeah, this cylinder is ported but it is a Stock (Non Pro-X aftermarket style) MX style cylinder not a Drag one so I don't know about 20HP more maybe 5-7HP.

All big bores now have a totally different much more modern better port layout that surpasses anything that can be done to a stock casting cylinder.Unless your talking about the 300cc resleeve but that is for Cross country only.

[1fastltr450]

Blah blah blah

[Hoosier Daddy]

to much tech info for garys little brain...   

[Quad32x]

That  old  Phillips  550  is  stock.  I  think  if  he  could  keep  it  in  the  corner  he  might  cause  a  few  problems.

[HillKiller]

   Just trying to get an approximate head count....Who is going this weekend the 15? Who on the 22nd? Who for both?

[Hoosier Daddy]

I might be there.... but I will be leaving early if they dont finish us up early....

[Quad32x]

I might be there.... but I will be leaving early if they dont finish us up early....

Dont  blame  ya  Chris.  Why  cant  they  start  the  race  early  so  people  can  get  home  at  a  sane  hour ?

[HillKiller]

  The track just isn't used to the quad turnout they've had the last few times.

[Quad32x]

If  they  want  to  keep  that  turn  out  they  need  to  get  there  act  together !  I  got  home  at  12:30  and  I  LIVE  in  Ocala  so  I  can  REALLY  feel  for  you  guys !