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Author Topic: Protest: promised 640 acres in Collier Co. (head count) MARCH 11th!!!  (Read 108217 times)
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2006, 12:02:23 PM »

I spoke today with Lt. Stamas of CCSO. I am waiting to hear from a couple of his deputies. I am also waiting to get the OK from facilities Management at Collier government. Here are the rules so far:

WE CANNOT BLOCK TRAFFIC IN ANYWAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
COLLIER SHERRIFFS WILL NOT STOP TRAFFIC FOR US.
NOISE LAWS ARE IN EFFECT( NO TRAIN HORNS, ETC WHILE WE ARE MOVING)
WE CANNOT PUT UP ANY BANNERS ON ANY BUILDINGS,RIGHT OF WAY ETC. BANNERS ARE OK ON YOUR TRUCK, TRAILER ATV, ETC

I was thinking we should meet at the entrance to picayune forest, drive down immokkalee, down us 41 and end at the government center?

I would also like to see a "petition signature drive" asking the Governor to fire the director of the SFWMD...

I will pass along more info as i get it....Rick
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2006, 12:18:59 PM »

I know personally that SFWMD is not the only people (company) involved in this process. So, please don't go pointing fingers to just them, because alot of them are on our side.
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2006, 01:14:05 PM »

The SWFMD might not be the only one's responsible, Nevertheless, the agreement for the 640 Acres was between them(Big Cypress Basin) and Collier County in exchange for the county giving up the rights to the road in the state forest. I have been going into Big Cypress since 1980 and I have been there on a Friday before opening day of General Gun Season and it was bone dry. I show up Saturday and I have water up to my waist.Interesting... Also When I used to live in Miami,we had a real bad storm go by and they did not open up the flood gates, consequently flooding out sweetwater. Ask around....If you want a copy of the agreement, Please E-MAIL me at LSWJTH2@yahoo.com....I dont know if you went to the meeting that our commissioner Jim Colletta put together when all this happened. They were their and  they cowered and hid behind the "Water Resource Advisory Commission" They calimed that ATV/ORV use was not a "Compatible use"

Want to take a guess under what umbrella that "Advisory commission" comes under??? I"m not saying that EVERYONE that works for that entity is BAD/ANTI OUTDOORSMAN, But that entity sure seems to put a bunch of road blocks for people like us.....Rick
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2006, 02:57:04 PM »

Anybody know where Lisa went to?  She seemed to have alot of information on this stuff and was always well spoken.  I haven't seen a post by her in a couple of months though anyone know her perrsonally? 
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« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2006, 03:04:11 PM »

A ton of excellent work is going on here.  If someone has GoogleEarth, they can pull up a small map of downtown Naples so we can see how it's all layed out, and what are good areas for parking.  I wouldn't know where to look on the map...  Embarrassed
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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2006, 03:30:32 PM »

I spoke today with Lt. Stamas of CCSO. I am waiting to hear from a couple of his deputies. I am also waiting to get the OK from facilities Management at Collier government. Here are the rules so far:

WE CANNOT BLOCK TRAFFIC IN ANYWAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
COLLIER SHERRIFFS WILL NOT STOP TRAFFIC FOR US.
NOISE LAWS ARE IN EFFECT( NO TRAIN HORNS, ETC WHILE WE ARE MOVING)
WE CANNOT PUT UP ANY BANNERS ON ANY BUILDINGS,RIGHT OF WAY ETC. BANNERS ARE OK ON YOUR TRUCK, TRAILER ATV, ETC

I was thinking we should meet at the entrance to picayune forest, drive down immokkalee, down us 41 and end at the government center?

I would also like to see a "petition signature drive" asking the Governor to fire the director of the SFWMD...

I will pass along more info as i get it....Rick

IMO if we follow these rules to the T it will take several protests to get anything done. However, if that is what we have to work with then be it. But on the other hand, I think we may be able to bend the rules bit in order to get our point across.

For Example:
Not stop traffic but go just below the speed limit and block both lanes going the speed limit. I dont see a problem with that.

For Example:
Contacting business owners who shared our same interest and asking them to put up banners. This should be ok as well.


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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2006, 03:35:11 PM »

I know personally that SFWMD is not the only people (company) involved in this process. So, please don't go pointing fingers to just them, because alot of them are on our side.

This is not a pointing finger match, or Giv. Bush or whatever. We want what we deserve, whoever is responsible, doesn't matter. We pay lots of money to have what we deserve. Give it to us now, we are giving everyone one more chance to gain our trust and do what is right and we demand.
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2006, 03:38:30 PM »

LS: you have pm

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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2006, 04:14:21 PM »

Ok: here it is, this our chance. Seems like many people are excited and want to FINALLY do something!!!
We are trying to get an idea of the number of people that would attend an organized, LEGAL protest/ralley in Naples. Our plan is to start at the entrance of Picayune Forest and work our way to the government center. We can hang banners from our vehicles and travel at slow rate of speeds (5-10 MPH under the speed limit, blocking all lanes). Our goal is to demand a date for opening our entitled 640 acres. Ideally, it would be good to have this land in Picayune Forest (Squares) and they might just say take it! So please respond to this thread and let us know how many you can commit:

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We will probably meet at about 10AM, do the drive, ralley by the GOV center and then drive back to the entrance of PF and have a bar b que or something. We can load our bikes and make our banners but this would be a day solely for demonstrating. Of course you can go your own way afterwards and ride whereever you are riding today but please try and stay away from Collier if you plan on doing that.

Here are most of everyone that has had something to say. Here is your chance! Respond if you want action! Don't just sit there and pregnant dog and cry!!! RESPOND!!

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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2006, 04:19:25 PM »

Let me know the date and if I'm off work count me in
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2006, 04:20:23 PM »

I'll be able to come, me and my dad probably.  If not, I can hitch a ride with someone.
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2006, 05:05:06 PM »

it will be a Saturday sometime in March
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2006, 05:05:36 PM »

new to the site, but live in naples. i live 2 block from the bridge on everglades, i see how many people i can get together!!! we definetly need to take a stand. just name the time
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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2006, 05:07:07 PM »

new to the site, but live in naples. i live 2 block from the bridge on everglades, i see how many people i can get together!!! we definetly need to take a stand. just name the time

possibly 10AM on a sat sometime in March. Let me know how many???
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« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2006, 05:12:00 PM »

new to the site, but live in naples. i live 2 block from the bridge on everglades, i see how many people i can get together!!! we definetly need to take a stand. just name the time

possibly 10AM on a sat sometime in March. Let me know how many???

Just make sure to not do it on the 17th 18th, thats l-cross. The majority of Naples attends these events lol Grin
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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2006, 05:15:58 PM »

new to the site, but live in naples. i live 2 block from the bridge on everglades, i see how many people i can get together!!! we definetly need to take a stand. just name the time

possibly 10AM on a sat sometime in March. Let me know how many???

Just make sure to not do it on the 17th 18th, thats l-cross. The majority of Naples attends these events lol Grin

So does this mean you are participitating and if so, how many? We will not do it on that weekend!
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2006, 05:19:10 PM »

Keep in mind people, this is just the begining. When this works, we will start on Ocala and other areas!!!  Even if you are not near the area your presense will make a difference for the entire state.
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2006, 05:49:05 PM »

new to the site, but live in naples. i live 2 block from the bridge on everglades, i see how many people i can get together!!! we definetly need to take a stand. just name the time

possibly 10AM on a sat sometime in March. Let me know how many???

Just make sure to not do it on the 17th 18th, thats l-cross. The majority of Naples attends these events lol Grin

So does this mean you are participitating and if so, how many? We will not do it on that weekend!

Well, of course. The bridge is probaly 10 min from my house. How many? Well lets just once I get the word out all the locals will go. Just about everybody I know has been to the previous rallys, and regulary visited badluck. Also, CNR will be sometime in march Not sure when though, so thats another thing you need to watch out for. Cool
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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2006, 05:54:08 PM »

new to the site, but live in naples. i live 2 block from the bridge on everglades, i see how many people i can get together!!! we definetly need to take a stand. just name the time

possibly 10AM on a sat sometime in March. Let me know how many???

Just make sure to not do it on the 17th 18th, thats l-cross. The majority of Naples attends these events lol Grin

So does this mean you are participitating and if so, how many? We will not do it on that weekend!

Well, of course. The bridge is probaly 10 min from my house. How many? Well lets just once I get the word out all the locals will go. Just about everybody I know has been to the previous rallys, and regulary visited badluck. Also, CNR will be sometime in march Not sure when though, so thats another thing you need to watch out for. Cool

Please provide us with dates so we can plan accordingly. Also, please make sure your local buddies are down with the plan. We will be handing out flyers at the meeting spot with the agenda and goals so everyone is on the same page. As well, we will have new stations out there. What we want is for everyone to respond in the same fashion if they are asked.
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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2006, 06:27:34 PM »

I will go, but not on the 25th or 26th.

I live in naples.
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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2006, 06:48:46 PM »

steve jahn and family of 5 + 50-60 people from the keys.
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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2006, 07:25:21 PM »

Let me know the date, I will be there for sure!!!! and some of my buddys still in the armed forces are getting leave time in febuary and making there way down here, hope it is around that time as in that is when they get there much needed time off and yes I am A PROUD INFEDEL!!!!!!! Evil
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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2006, 07:31:16 PM »

Count me in!!! this has to planned wisely..we dont want to be seen as troublemakers....I was reading the info on protesting and we have every right to protest but we have to be aware of the laws!!!!!If there is anything I can do just let me know and we'll start the research!!!!  Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2006, 07:36:48 PM »

we'll be there!!!!! =o)
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« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2006, 07:58:11 PM »

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